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> ... My cardio had looked at the amount of time that I'd been in NSR

and listened to my continuing concern about fatigue and decided to

drop me off my beta blocker (Bisoprolol -- 5 mg) It was working, but

too well. My heart rate was in the low 40's. I went off and within

two days was feeling normal -- not just in rhythm, but normal. I'd

forgotten how nice that was.

>

> And at 3 a.m. this morning...well, everyone knows the punchline to

this story as soon as I say the time.

Hi, Bill,

For a minute there I had " no beta blocker envy " ;-)

Aren't beta blockers supposed to be tapered off or there is a

temporary increase in heart stuff? Maybe you could try taking it

again until you have it built up in your bloodstream, and then try

decreasing it just a smidgen, like 1 mg.

My two attempts to decrease my dosage during the last couple of years

also failed.

By the way, when I went back to the higher dose, my cardio had me

temporarily take an even higher dose to load myelf up again, before

reverting to the old high dose.

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> ... My cardio had looked at the amount of time that I'd been in NSR

and listened to my continuing concern about fatigue and decided to

drop me off my beta blocker (Bisoprolol -- 5 mg) It was working, but

too well. My heart rate was in the low 40's. I went off and within

two days was feeling normal -- not just in rhythm, but normal. I'd

forgotten how nice that was.

>

> And at 3 a.m. this morning...well, everyone knows the punchline to

this story as soon as I say the time.

Hi, Bill,

For a minute there I had " no beta blocker envy " ;-)

Aren't beta blockers supposed to be tapered off or there is a

temporary increase in heart stuff? Maybe you could try taking it

again until you have it built up in your bloodstream, and then try

decreasing it just a smidgen, like 1 mg.

My two attempts to decrease my dosage during the last couple of years

also failed.

By the way, when I went back to the higher dose, my cardio had me

temporarily take an even higher dose to load myelf up again, before

reverting to the old high dose.

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> ... My cardio had looked at the amount of time that I'd been in NSR

and listened to my continuing concern about fatigue and decided to

drop me off my beta blocker (Bisoprolol -- 5 mg) It was working, but

too well. My heart rate was in the low 40's. I went off and within

two days was feeling normal -- not just in rhythm, but normal. I'd

forgotten how nice that was.

>

> And at 3 a.m. this morning...well, everyone knows the punchline to

this story as soon as I say the time.

Hi, Bill,

For a minute there I had " no beta blocker envy " ;-)

Aren't beta blockers supposed to be tapered off or there is a

temporary increase in heart stuff? Maybe you could try taking it

again until you have it built up in your bloodstream, and then try

decreasing it just a smidgen, like 1 mg.

My two attempts to decrease my dosage during the last couple of years

also failed.

By the way, when I went back to the higher dose, my cardio had me

temporarily take an even higher dose to load myelf up again, before

reverting to the old high dose.

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> Good news and bad news.

Hi Bill,

I'm really sorry to hear that you are going through the " off period "

with the AFIB. It seems like we are pursuing this target(long term

NSR) that manages to move a bit further away just when we think we

may have got there!

I know the excitement of either of the things you are embarking on

would trigger AFIB in me, that is either a trip, or one of my

daughters getting married. I can only imagine the excitement of

visiting with grandchildren. I also experience low heart rate from

time to time on the atenolol but have decided to stick it out as I am

on a low dose of it as well. If it was happening more frequently I

would try for a lower dose of the beta blocker, but it is hard to

play around with dosage when you are about to hit the road.

I think it is a testament to the inner strength of our members that

we all push on with the normal stuff of life despite how the old

ticker is making us feel. I hope you have a great time with your

family and that your heart decides to behave itself and get back to

sinus rythm soon.

Germaine

Canada

propafenone, atenolol, warfarin

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> Good news and bad news.

Hi Bill,

I'm really sorry to hear that you are going through the " off period "

with the AFIB. It seems like we are pursuing this target(long term

NSR) that manages to move a bit further away just when we think we

may have got there!

I know the excitement of either of the things you are embarking on

would trigger AFIB in me, that is either a trip, or one of my

daughters getting married. I can only imagine the excitement of

visiting with grandchildren. I also experience low heart rate from

time to time on the atenolol but have decided to stick it out as I am

on a low dose of it as well. If it was happening more frequently I

would try for a lower dose of the beta blocker, but it is hard to

play around with dosage when you are about to hit the road.

I think it is a testament to the inner strength of our members that

we all push on with the normal stuff of life despite how the old

ticker is making us feel. I hope you have a great time with your

family and that your heart decides to behave itself and get back to

sinus rythm soon.

Germaine

Canada

propafenone, atenolol, warfarin

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> Good news and bad news.

Hi Bill,

I'm really sorry to hear that you are going through the " off period "

with the AFIB. It seems like we are pursuing this target(long term

NSR) that manages to move a bit further away just when we think we

may have got there!

I know the excitement of either of the things you are embarking on

would trigger AFIB in me, that is either a trip, or one of my

daughters getting married. I can only imagine the excitement of

visiting with grandchildren. I also experience low heart rate from

time to time on the atenolol but have decided to stick it out as I am

on a low dose of it as well. If it was happening more frequently I

would try for a lower dose of the beta blocker, but it is hard to

play around with dosage when you are about to hit the road.

I think it is a testament to the inner strength of our members that

we all push on with the normal stuff of life despite how the old

ticker is making us feel. I hope you have a great time with your

family and that your heart decides to behave itself and get back to

sinus rythm soon.

Germaine

Canada

propafenone, atenolol, warfarin

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Hi, Bill. Sorry about the bad news. Glad you¹re calling the cardio. I

would suggest a nice calcium-channel blocker, but mine makes me tired, too!

Good luck and hope the trip goes well.

--

Kathleen Stept (Dofetilide 250mcg bid, Diltiazem 120 mg, Coumadin 5mg, baby

aspirin), , Mississippi

> Good news and bad news.

>

> I was going to post the good news a couple of days ago but decided to wait.

> My cardio had looked at the amount of time that I'd been in NSR and listened

> to my continuing concern about fatigue and decided to drop me off my beta

> blocker (Bisoprolol -- 5 mg) It was working, but too well. My heart rate was

> in the low 40's. I went off and within two days was feeling normal -- not

> just in rhythm, but normal. I'd forgotten how nice that was.

>

> And at 3 a.m. this morning...well, everyone knows the punchline to this story

> as soon as I say the time. Yup. I decided that putting on my sports watch

> with the heart monitor was a Good Thing. 180 bpm.

>

> So I guess I phone the cardio today and see if I need to go back into rate

> control. The list lately has had the Sidam Touch for vacations, anniversaries

> and the like. (Sidam? It's Midas spelled backwards. Everything you touch

> turns to...ah, never mind.) I've got a cross country trip for a daughter's

> wedding and visiting (other daughter) grandkids. My forbearance is short, and

> my wife's will be even shorter if I upstage the kid on this one. Maybe a

> reduced dose will do it. I have my doubts though. The dose is pretty minimal

> as it is. The high rate mabe OK for a couple of weeks while I'm on the road.

> If so, I can do that too. This is one where I have to trust in his abilities.

> That ablation can't come too soon.

>

> Just thought that I'd share.

>

> Bill Manson

>

> " Wouldn't you hate it if the future weren't the best thing you ever did? " --

> Rauschenberg

>

>

>

>

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> Good news and bad news.

>

> I was going to post the good news a couple of days ago but decided

to wait.

................................

Bill, I know what you're feeling about all the uncertainty with this

thing. And I don't post my time in NSR any more because it seems

like when I do the inevitable happens.

I also don't know how you can take a 180bpm irregular heart beat. I

can't.

One question: Why don't you try an anti arrhythmic drug at least to

get you through your upcoming schedule?

P <MI>

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> Good news and bad news.

>

> I was going to post the good news a couple of days ago but decided

to wait.

................................

Bill, I know what you're feeling about all the uncertainty with this

thing. And I don't post my time in NSR any more because it seems

like when I do the inevitable happens.

I also don't know how you can take a 180bpm irregular heart beat. I

can't.

One question: Why don't you try an anti arrhythmic drug at least to

get you through your upcoming schedule?

P <MI>

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> Good news and bad news.

>

> I was going to post the good news a couple of days ago but decided

to wait.

................................

Bill, I know what you're feeling about all the uncertainty with this

thing. And I don't post my time in NSR any more because it seems

like when I do the inevitable happens.

I also don't know how you can take a 180bpm irregular heart beat. I

can't.

One question: Why don't you try an anti arrhythmic drug at least to

get you through your upcoming schedule?

P <MI>

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> Good news and bad news.

>

> I was going to post the good news a couple of days ago but decided

to wait.

................................

Bill, I know what you're feeling about all the uncertainty with this

thing. And I don't post my time in NSR any more because it seems

like when I do the inevitable happens.

I also don't know how you can take a 180bpm irregular heart beat. I

can't.

One question: Why don't you try an anti arrhythmic drug at least to

get you through your upcoming schedule?

P <MI>

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> Good news and bad news.

>

> I was going to post the good news a couple of days ago but decided

to wait.

................................

Bill, I know what you're feeling about all the uncertainty with this

thing. And I don't post my time in NSR any more because it seems

like when I do the inevitable happens.

I also don't know how you can take a 180bpm irregular heart beat. I

can't.

One question: Why don't you try an anti arrhythmic drug at least to

get you through your upcoming schedule?

P <MI>

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Driscoll wrote:

Hi Bill - you might like to talk about on demand rate control with your

Doc.

You were right on, Jim. It happened that the fib quit after about 10 hours --

which is, 's Law applying, almost exactly when the doc and I touched base.

He proposed the on demand and I jumped at it. Sounds like a great compromise

and good quality of life solution.

Bill Manson

" When [] put on a uniform, something happened to him. He turned

into Manson's cousin, Manson. " -- Ken Kaiser

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