Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone know?

[Guest guest]

This is interesting. A doctor in my past found too much calcium in my blood too.

She said it was related to osteoarthritis & my spinal degeneration tho. Never

mentioned a thing about the parathyroid dysfunction. Now I'm wondering about

this too. I really have to get a good doctor who would have known this or does

know about it.

Caroline

Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone know?

My doctor called last night and said that I have a high amount of calcium in

my blood which indicates hyperparathyroidism. I know that the parathyroid

glands are different from the thyroid, but was wondering if anyone knew anything

about this.

Thanks,

Tigger

[Guest guest]

Val, the one good thing is... I've got the best surgeon in the state lined up

for the sugery. All he does is thyroid and parathyroid surgery. I just hope to

God I start feeling better when all is said in done.

Thank you for your infor.

Hugs,

Tigger

Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone know?

Tigger, I've had it and had the offending adenoma surgically removed. They

also need to test your PTH (parathyroid hormone). When a parathyroid goes

wonky, it keeps telling your body that there is not enough calcium in the blood.

So your body sucks it out of the bones and damages them. It needs to be tended

to and surgery is the only known cure. www.endocrineweb.com helped me. I made

contact with the Florida doctor who does the minimally invasive surgery but in

the end, opted for a surgeon close by. I have a very good looking scar but I

have seen some with UGLY scars.

Val

My doctor called last night and said that I have a high amount of calcium in

my blood which indicates hyperparathyroidism. I know that the parathyroid

glands are different from the thyroid, but was wondering if anyone knew anything

about this.

[Guest guest]

I wonder if smoking has anything to do with the parathyroid dysfunction or even

thyroid dysfunction? They say smoking leeches calcium from the bones too.

But hey, I've known countless numbers of people who've smoked packs a day

(something I've never done) & never had a bone or spinal problem at all, let

alone a calcium deficiency or parathyroid dysfunction.

For some people who've smoked way longer years than I have & smoked 5-10x as

much per day, they're healthy as horses compared to me. Why is that I wonder?

Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone know?

Wonderful people! Thank you so much. I have felt so sick for so long I didn't

even believe there was a way out.

I'm willing to do whatever it takes just to be able to live a normal day.

Thank you.

Tigger

----- Original Message -----

From: Valarie

In its later stages, hyperparathyroidism causes exhaustion, despression,

bone pain (your bones actually bleed), mental confusion, etc.

[Guest guest]

they've found smoking to be a contributing factor to thyroid disease,

and that it also exacerbates its symptoms.

as for the people who smoke more than you and appear healthy, a)

sometimes people are just lucky in a game of russian roulette,

sometimes we're more prone to certain things than others, c) sometimes

they're a lot sicker than we (or even they) imagine.

b

>

> I wonder if smoking has anything to do with the parathyroid

> dysfunction or even thyroid dysfunction? They say smoking leeches

> calcium from the bones too.

>

> But hey, I've known countless numbers of people who've smoked packs a

> day (something I've never done) & never had a bone or spinal problem

> at all, let alone a calcium deficiency or parathyroid dysfunction.

>

> For some people who've smoked way longer years than I have & smoked

> 5-10x as much per day, they're healthy as horses compared to me. Why

> is that I wonder?

> Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone

> know?

> Wonderful people! Thank you so much. I have felt so sick for so long

> I didn't even believe there was a way out.

> I'm willing to do whatever it takes just to be able to live a normal

> day.

> Thank you.

> Tigger

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Valarie

> In its later stages, hyperparathyroidism causes exhaustion,

> despression, bone pain (your bones actually bleed), mental confusion,

> etc.

>

>

[Guest guest]

they've found smoking to be a contributing factor to thyroid disease,

and that it also exacerbates its symptoms.

as for the people who smoke more than you and appear healthy, a)

sometimes people are just lucky in a game of russian roulette,

sometimes we're more prone to certain things than others, c) sometimes

they're a lot sicker than we (or even they) imagine.

b

>

> I wonder if smoking has anything to do with the parathyroid

> dysfunction or even thyroid dysfunction? They say smoking leeches

> calcium from the bones too.

>

> But hey, I've known countless numbers of people who've smoked packs a

> day (something I've never done) & never had a bone or spinal problem

> at all, let alone a calcium deficiency or parathyroid dysfunction.

>

> For some people who've smoked way longer years than I have & smoked

> 5-10x as much per day, they're healthy as horses compared to me. Why

> is that I wonder?

> Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone

> know?

> Wonderful people! Thank you so much. I have felt so sick for so long

> I didn't even believe there was a way out.

> I'm willing to do whatever it takes just to be able to live a normal

> day.

> Thank you.

> Tigger

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Valarie

> In its later stages, hyperparathyroidism causes exhaustion,

> despression, bone pain (your bones actually bleed), mental confusion,

> etc.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've never smoked, but was always exposed to second hand smoke at home.

Tigger

Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone know?

Wonderful people! Thank you so much. I have felt so sick for so long I

didn't even believe there was a way out.

I'm willing to do whatever it takes just to be able to live a normal day.

Thank you.

Tigger

----- Original Message -----

From: Valarie

In its later stages, hyperparathyroidism causes exhaustion, despression,

bone pain (your bones actually bleed), mental confusion, etc.

[Guest guest]

Tigger

I believe at least one parathyroid has to be removed. Did the doctor

discuss this with you, as for surgery? What did he/she say? I believe that

they do produce calcitonin also.

Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone know?

>

> My doctor called last night and said that I have a high amount of calcium

in my blood which indicates hyperparathyroidism. I know that the

parathyroid glands are different from the thyroid, but was wondering if

anyone knew anything about this.

>

> Thanks,

> Tigger

[Guest guest]

Tigger

I believe at least one parathyroid has to be removed. Did the doctor

discuss this with you, as for surgery? What did he/she say? I believe that

they do produce calcitonin also.

Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone know?

>

> My doctor called last night and said that I have a high amount of calcium

in my blood which indicates hyperparathyroidism. I know that the

parathyroid glands are different from the thyroid, but was wondering if

anyone knew anything about this.

>

> Thanks,

> Tigger

[Guest guest]

Caroline

Have this test run again. I don't know for sure, but I'm thinking that the

doctor whol told you this about the osteo may not have known what the heck

he/'she was doing. Have it run again. This may be one of your problems.

High amts of calcium in the blood can also cause massive depression,

especially out of balance with magnesium. Hyperparathyroidism means

removing one or more parathyroids. It's usually the only way to solve the

problem.

Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone know?

>

> This is interesting. A doctor in my past found too much calcium in my

blood too. She said it was related to osteoarthritis & my spinal

degeneration tho. Never mentioned a thing about the parathyroid dysfunction.

Now I'm wondering about this too. I really have to get a good doctor who

would have known this or does know about it.

> Caroline

[Guest guest]

Generally, only one parathyroid is involved. Prior to my surgery, I had a

sestimibi scan which showed the adenoma. When they do the surgery, they

examine all the parathyroids (if they can find them). My doc found one

adenoma, 2 good parathyroids and could not find the fourth one. I keep a

good watch on my calcium level because no one knows where the fourth

parathyroid may be located. I haven't heard of the parathyroids producing

calcitonin. I developed pretty serious osteoporosis while I went

undiagnosed and mistreated for at least 14 years.

Val

I believe at least one parathyroid has to be removed. Did the doctor

discuss this with you, as for surgery? What did he/she say? I believe that

they do produce calcitonin also.

[Guest guest]

,

I did read that on the internet. My doc is waiting to get a bunch of other tests

back too. She was actually testing for lupus since my so-called fibromyalgia

and chronic fatigue has gotten so much worse.

Hugs,

Tigger

Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone know?

>

> My doctor called last night and said that I have a high amount of calcium

in my blood which indicates hyperparathyroidism. I know that the

parathyroid glands are different from the thyroid, but was wondering if

anyone knew anything about this.

>

> Thanks,

> Tigger

[Guest guest]

Yep...I know I should quit smoking, every doctor has said so. Spent $thousands$

during my life to help me with that but nothing worked except for a little

while, then I always returned to it. Death wish I guess. Or else I'm a

masochist, haven't figured out which yet. I smoke about a pack a week is all

tho. Could be worse. would like to quit for good tho....someday maybe. It helps

with the lonliness for now tho as it's got kind of a " presence' to it..the smoke

I mean, not the nicotine which I'm addicted to, no doubt. Agreed about the other

smokers. We never know. Just about everyone has one vice or another tho unless

they're saints, which I'm definitely not.

Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone know?

they've found smoking to be a contributing factor to thyroid disease,

and that it also exacerbates its symptoms.

as for the people who smoke more than you and appear healthy, a)

sometimes people are just lucky in a game of russian roulette,

sometimes we're more prone to certain things than others, c) sometimes

they're a lot sicker than we (or even they) imagine.

b

[Guest guest]

Yep...I know I should quit smoking, every doctor has said so. Spent $thousands$

during my life to help me with that but nothing worked except for a little

while, then I always returned to it. Death wish I guess. Or else I'm a

masochist, haven't figured out which yet. I smoke about a pack a week is all

tho. Could be worse. would like to quit for good tho....someday maybe. It helps

with the lonliness for now tho as it's got kind of a " presence' to it..the smoke

I mean, not the nicotine which I'm addicted to, no doubt. Agreed about the other

smokers. We never know. Just about everyone has one vice or another tho unless

they're saints, which I'm definitely not.

Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone know?

they've found smoking to be a contributing factor to thyroid disease,

and that it also exacerbates its symptoms.

as for the people who smoke more than you and appear healthy, a)

sometimes people are just lucky in a game of russian roulette,

sometimes we're more prone to certain things than others, c) sometimes

they're a lot sicker than we (or even they) imagine.

b

[Guest guest]

Yep...I know I should quit smoking, every doctor has said so. Spent $thousands$

during my life to help me with that but nothing worked except for a little

while, then I always returned to it. Death wish I guess. Or else I'm a

masochist, haven't figured out which yet. I smoke about a pack a week is all

tho. Could be worse. would like to quit for good tho....someday maybe. It helps

with the lonliness for now tho as it's got kind of a " presence' to it..the smoke

I mean, not the nicotine which I'm addicted to, no doubt. Agreed about the other

smokers. We never know. Just about everyone has one vice or another tho unless

they're saints, which I'm definitely not.

Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone know?

they've found smoking to be a contributing factor to thyroid disease,

and that it also exacerbates its symptoms.

as for the people who smoke more than you and appear healthy, a)

sometimes people are just lucky in a game of russian roulette,

sometimes we're more prone to certain things than others, c) sometimes

they're a lot sicker than we (or even they) imagine.

b

[Guest guest]

Ok, I'll save this message to remind myself to have yet another new doctor test

for blood calcium. Actually tho, I was recently dxd w/severe osteopenia & severe

osteoarthritis via a bone density scan & x-ray.

Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone know?

Caroline

Have this test run again. I don't know for sure, but I'm thinking that the

doctor whol told you this about the osteo may not have known what the heck

he/'she was doing. Have it run again. This may be one of your problems.

High amts of calcium in the blood can also cause massive depression,

especially out of balance with magnesium. Hyperparathyroidism means

removing one or more parathyroids. It's usually the only way to solve the

problem.

[Guest guest]

Ok, I'll save this message to remind myself to have yet another new doctor test

for blood calcium. Actually tho, I was recently dxd w/severe osteopenia & severe

osteoarthritis via a bone density scan & x-ray.

Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone know?

Caroline

Have this test run again. I don't know for sure, but I'm thinking that the

doctor whol told you this about the osteo may not have known what the heck

he/'she was doing. Have it run again. This may be one of your problems.

High amts of calcium in the blood can also cause massive depression,

especially out of balance with magnesium. Hyperparathyroidism means

removing one or more parathyroids. It's usually the only way to solve the

problem.

[Guest guest]

Ok, I'll save this message to remind myself to have yet another new doctor test

for blood calcium. Actually tho, I was recently dxd w/severe osteopenia & severe

osteoarthritis via a bone density scan & x-ray.

Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone know?

Caroline

Have this test run again. I don't know for sure, but I'm thinking that the

doctor whol told you this about the osteo may not have known what the heck

he/'she was doing. Have it run again. This may be one of your problems.

High amts of calcium in the blood can also cause massive depression,

especially out of balance with magnesium. Hyperparathyroidism means

removing one or more parathyroids. It's usually the only way to solve the

problem.

[Guest guest]

i smoked since age 15 and by the time i was in my early 20s, it was 1 -

2 packs a day. cigarette when i woke up. cigarette before breakfast,

cigarette after breakfast, cigarette waiting for my room-mate to get

ready so we could drive to class, cigarette in the car, cigarette

during the walk from the parking lot to class. cigarette between

classes...

eventually i quit because i got on a plane to fly home for summer and i

was a basketcase. then i realized, i wasn't in control, cigarettes

were, and when i landed i had one cigarette to kill the cravings and

dropped the pack in the trash. didn't want any of it. was the easiest

quit i ever did. prior to that, some years before i had quit because a

girlfriend had pressured me to do so. couldn't do it.

i think you have to really want to quit.

now i sometimes smoke socially, but i'm not addicted. i tend not to

like it, even, and after not smoking for so long, that first cigarette

is very harsh.

i smoke marijuana for my pain and suffering. it's a good herb. i

don't know how you feel about it, so i'm not going to try and advocate

it to you, but when i smoke pot i'm not interested in cigarettes. i

usually use a vaporizer so i don't inhale tar and stuff that you get

from lighting a joint.

best,

baron

>

> Yep...I know I should quit smoking, every doctor has said so. Spent

> $thousands$ during my life to help me with that but nothing worked

> except for a little while, then I always returned to it. Death wish I

> guess. Or else I'm a masochist, haven't figured out which yet. I smoke

> about a pack a week is all tho. Could be worse. would like to quit for

> good tho....someday maybe. It helps with the lonliness for now tho as

> it's got kind of a " presence' to it..the smoke I mean, not the

> nicotine which I'm addicted to, no doubt. Agreed about the other

> smokers. We never know. Just about everyone has one vice or another

> tho unless they're saints, which I'm definitely not.

> Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone

> know?

>

>

> they've found smoking to be a contributing factor to thyroid disease,

> and that it also exacerbates its symptoms.

> as for the people who smoke more than you and appear healthy, a)

> sometimes people are just lucky in a game of russian roulette,

> sometimes we're more prone to certain things than others, c)

> sometimes

> they're a lot sicker than we (or even they) imagine.

> b

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

i smoked since age 15 and by the time i was in my early 20s, it was 1 -

2 packs a day. cigarette when i woke up. cigarette before breakfast,

cigarette after breakfast, cigarette waiting for my room-mate to get

ready so we could drive to class, cigarette in the car, cigarette

during the walk from the parking lot to class. cigarette between

classes...

eventually i quit because i got on a plane to fly home for summer and i

was a basketcase. then i realized, i wasn't in control, cigarettes

were, and when i landed i had one cigarette to kill the cravings and

dropped the pack in the trash. didn't want any of it. was the easiest

quit i ever did. prior to that, some years before i had quit because a

girlfriend had pressured me to do so. couldn't do it.

i think you have to really want to quit.

now i sometimes smoke socially, but i'm not addicted. i tend not to

like it, even, and after not smoking for so long, that first cigarette

is very harsh.

i smoke marijuana for my pain and suffering. it's a good herb. i

don't know how you feel about it, so i'm not going to try and advocate

it to you, but when i smoke pot i'm not interested in cigarettes. i

usually use a vaporizer so i don't inhale tar and stuff that you get

from lighting a joint.

best,

baron

>

> Yep...I know I should quit smoking, every doctor has said so. Spent

> $thousands$ during my life to help me with that but nothing worked

> except for a little while, then I always returned to it. Death wish I

> guess. Or else I'm a masochist, haven't figured out which yet. I smoke

> about a pack a week is all tho. Could be worse. would like to quit for

> good tho....someday maybe. It helps with the lonliness for now tho as

> it's got kind of a " presence' to it..the smoke I mean, not the

> nicotine which I'm addicted to, no doubt. Agreed about the other

> smokers. We never know. Just about everyone has one vice or another

> tho unless they're saints, which I'm definitely not.

> Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone

> know?

>

>

> they've found smoking to be a contributing factor to thyroid disease,

> and that it also exacerbates its symptoms.

> as for the people who smoke more than you and appear healthy, a)

> sometimes people are just lucky in a game of russian roulette,

> sometimes we're more prone to certain things than others, c)

> sometimes

> they're a lot sicker than we (or even they) imagine.

> b

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

i smoked since age 15 and by the time i was in my early 20s, it was 1 -

2 packs a day. cigarette when i woke up. cigarette before breakfast,

cigarette after breakfast, cigarette waiting for my room-mate to get

ready so we could drive to class, cigarette in the car, cigarette

during the walk from the parking lot to class. cigarette between

classes...

eventually i quit because i got on a plane to fly home for summer and i

was a basketcase. then i realized, i wasn't in control, cigarettes

were, and when i landed i had one cigarette to kill the cravings and

dropped the pack in the trash. didn't want any of it. was the easiest

quit i ever did. prior to that, some years before i had quit because a

girlfriend had pressured me to do so. couldn't do it.

i think you have to really want to quit.

now i sometimes smoke socially, but i'm not addicted. i tend not to

like it, even, and after not smoking for so long, that first cigarette

is very harsh.

i smoke marijuana for my pain and suffering. it's a good herb. i

don't know how you feel about it, so i'm not going to try and advocate

it to you, but when i smoke pot i'm not interested in cigarettes. i

usually use a vaporizer so i don't inhale tar and stuff that you get

from lighting a joint.

best,

baron

>

> Yep...I know I should quit smoking, every doctor has said so. Spent

> $thousands$ during my life to help me with that but nothing worked

> except for a little while, then I always returned to it. Death wish I

> guess. Or else I'm a masochist, haven't figured out which yet. I smoke

> about a pack a week is all tho. Could be worse. would like to quit for

> good tho....someday maybe. It helps with the lonliness for now tho as

> it's got kind of a " presence' to it..the smoke I mean, not the

> nicotine which I'm addicted to, no doubt. Agreed about the other

> smokers. We never know. Just about everyone has one vice or another

> tho unless they're saints, which I'm definitely not.

> Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone

> know?

>

>

> they've found smoking to be a contributing factor to thyroid disease,

> and that it also exacerbates its symptoms.

> as for the people who smoke more than you and appear healthy, a)

> sometimes people are just lucky in a game of russian roulette,

> sometimes we're more prone to certain things than others, c)

> sometimes

> they're a lot sicker than we (or even they) imagine.

> b

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

So what did you do about the cravings after you threw away that pack & quit?

If I smoked pot, I wouldn't need cigs either. A vaporizer's better than a joint,

yes.

My late husband smoked joints & cigarettes too. Died of cancer & pneumonia. I

don't smoke much by general standards but prolly too much for me at this age

with my dis-eases & infirmities.

Whether or not I'll be able to quit eventually is up for grabs right now. I

don't know what it would take for me to really want to quit....prolly too much

pain or other incapacitation from it I guess.

MM

Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone

> know?

>

>

> they've found smoking to be a contributing factor to thyroid disease,

> and that it also exacerbates its symptoms.

> as for the people who smoke more than you and appear healthy, a)

> sometimes people are just lucky in a game of russian roulette,

> sometimes we're more prone to certain things than others, c)

> sometimes

> they're a lot sicker than we (or even they) imagine.

> b

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

at what point is pain " too much " ? if you ask me, you're in too much

pain as it is--it has depressed and debilitated you. i don't believe

there is such a thing as an " acceptable amount of pain " to live with,

if one can help it.

strangely i had no cravings after i quit. maybe the first week, but

afterwards, it was plain sailing. i just made sure i had other things

to do--i read, i went out, i avoided alcohol, since it was a big

companion to cigarettes (and in fact today, is almost the only time i

have a cigarette on a social basis), and i drank coffee, tea, or other

things whenever i needed a buzz or to relax.

myself i'm looking forward to feeling no pain. i remarked to my wife

the other day that i've been in pain for so long i don't know what it's

like to feel okay. i know many here feel the same, and that's sad.

best,

baron

>

> So what did you do about the cravings after you threw away that pack &

> quit?

>

> If I smoked pot, I wouldn't need cigs either. A vaporizer's better

> than a joint, yes.

>

> My late husband smoked joints & cigarettes too. Died of cancer &

> pneumonia. I don't smoke much by general standards but prolly too much

> for me at this age with my dis-eases & infirmities.

>

> Whether or not I'll be able to quit eventually is up for grabs right

> now. I don't know what it would take for me to really want to

> quit....prolly too much pain or other incapacitation from it I guess.

> MM

> Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone

>> know?

>>

>>

>> they've found smoking to be a contributing factor to thyroid

>> disease,

>> and that it also exacerbates its symptoms.

>> as for the people who smoke more than you and appear healthy, a)

>> sometimes people are just lucky in a game of russian roulette,

>> sometimes we're more prone to certain things than others, c)

>> sometimes

>> they're a lot sicker than we (or even they) imagine.

>> b

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

at what point is pain " too much " ? if you ask me, you're in too much

pain as it is--it has depressed and debilitated you. i don't believe

there is such a thing as an " acceptable amount of pain " to live with,

if one can help it.

strangely i had no cravings after i quit. maybe the first week, but

afterwards, it was plain sailing. i just made sure i had other things

to do--i read, i went out, i avoided alcohol, since it was a big

companion to cigarettes (and in fact today, is almost the only time i

have a cigarette on a social basis), and i drank coffee, tea, or other

things whenever i needed a buzz or to relax.

myself i'm looking forward to feeling no pain. i remarked to my wife

the other day that i've been in pain for so long i don't know what it's

like to feel okay. i know many here feel the same, and that's sad.

best,

baron

>

> So what did you do about the cravings after you threw away that pack &

> quit?

>

> If I smoked pot, I wouldn't need cigs either. A vaporizer's better

> than a joint, yes.

>

> My late husband smoked joints & cigarettes too. Died of cancer &

> pneumonia. I don't smoke much by general standards but prolly too much

> for me at this age with my dis-eases & infirmities.

>

> Whether or not I'll be able to quit eventually is up for grabs right

> now. I don't know what it would take for me to really want to

> quit....prolly too much pain or other incapacitation from it I guess.

> MM

> Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone

>> know?

>>

>>

>> they've found smoking to be a contributing factor to thyroid

>> disease,

>> and that it also exacerbates its symptoms.

>> as for the people who smoke more than you and appear healthy, a)

>> sometimes people are just lucky in a game of russian roulette,

>> sometimes we're more prone to certain things than others, c)

>> sometimes

>> they're a lot sicker than we (or even they) imagine.

>> b

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

at what point is pain " too much " ? if you ask me, you're in too much

pain as it is--it has depressed and debilitated you. i don't believe

there is such a thing as an " acceptable amount of pain " to live with,

if one can help it.

strangely i had no cravings after i quit. maybe the first week, but

afterwards, it was plain sailing. i just made sure i had other things

to do--i read, i went out, i avoided alcohol, since it was a big

companion to cigarettes (and in fact today, is almost the only time i

have a cigarette on a social basis), and i drank coffee, tea, or other

things whenever i needed a buzz or to relax.

myself i'm looking forward to feeling no pain. i remarked to my wife

the other day that i've been in pain for so long i don't know what it's

like to feel okay. i know many here feel the same, and that's sad.

best,

baron

>

> So what did you do about the cravings after you threw away that pack &

> quit?

>

> If I smoked pot, I wouldn't need cigs either. A vaporizer's better

> than a joint, yes.

>

> My late husband smoked joints & cigarettes too. Died of cancer &

> pneumonia. I don't smoke much by general standards but prolly too much

> for me at this age with my dis-eases & infirmities.

>

> Whether or not I'll be able to quit eventually is up for grabs right

> now. I don't know what it would take for me to really want to

> quit....prolly too much pain or other incapacitation from it I guess.

> MM

> Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone

>> know?

>>

>>

>> they've found smoking to be a contributing factor to thyroid

>> disease,

>> and that it also exacerbates its symptoms.

>> as for the people who smoke more than you and appear healthy, a)

>> sometimes people are just lucky in a game of russian roulette,

>> sometimes we're more prone to certain things than others, c)

>> sometimes

>> they're a lot sicker than we (or even they) imagine.

>> b

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

I don't know yet what the " too much pain " level would be to force me to quit

smoking. I quit for a year at age 33 or so after getting pneumonia which I had

for 3 months. Of course I quit right away...couldn't breathe well & was coughing

too much...very painful & debilitating.

I s'pose something like that could cause me to quit again. I agree that no

amount of pain is acceptable tho. But the amount I've had hasn't caused me to

quit yet, at least not for long, tho I've tried to many, many times. You were

very fortunate you didn't have much cravings after the first week. Mine goes on

for months so I always go back to it. I'm with you on the being in pain for so

long I don't know what's it's like to fee " normal " . I envy people who do.

Re: Hyperparathyroidism? Anyone know?

at what point is pain " too much " ? if you ask me, you're in too much

pain as it is--it has depressed and debilitated you. i don't believe

there is such a thing as an " acceptable amount of pain " to live with,

if one can help it.

strangely i had no cravings after i quit. maybe the first week, but

afterwards, it was plain sailing. i just made sure i had other things

to do--i read, i went out, i avoided alcohol, since it was a big

companion to cigarettes (and in fact today, is almost the only time i

have a cigarette on a social basis), and i drank coffee, tea, or other

things whenever i needed a buzz or to relax.

myself i'm looking forward to feeling no pain. i remarked to my wife

the other day that i've been in pain for so long i don't know what it's

like to feel okay. i know many here feel the same, and that's sad.

best,

baron