flu shots

[Guest guest]

I usually get a shot. Last year, I did and was fine; DH didn't and I

thought he was going to die from the flu. I dunno'.

If you watch Fahrenheit 9/11, please also see FahrenHYPE 9/11.

Val

" they " want to instill " fear " to make " $ " it's the american way...I've

never had a Flu shot & I never will.

I haven't had the flu in 10-15 years.

Please don't forget to register to VOTE...Please VOTE ...if you don't

want to VOTE, please watch Fahrenheit 9/11...

[Guest guest]

glad to hear it!! i've never taken a flu shot because i'm not

susceptible to it. i get bronchitis.

I got a flu shot when I was 27 at the insistence of my boss. A few days

later I got a terrible flu. I get bronchitis when I don't have enough

thyroid. The last time I let a lab obsessed medico lower my dose I got

bronchitis which turned into some kind of raging fever/flu thing.

I agree with www.mercola.com <http://www.mercola.com/> that diet can

mess up our resistance to viruses. I'll add that sleep is another big

factor for maintaining a healthy immune system. Get lots of sleep in

the winter. We need 3.5 hours of melatonin to then trigger 6 hours of

prolactin which revs up the immune system. Make sure you don't have

ANY ***NADA*** light in your room at night. It will lower your

melatonin and decrease your immune system. Mercola says that after 10

minutes in the dark you shouldn't be able to see your hand when held out

in front.

Simple, simple, simple.

Laurel

[Guest guest]

Understanding the immune system in all this is a little complicated and

sometimes confusing, because, yes, we do " catch " more colds, have more

allergies, etc...when we have Hashimoto's Disease, but it isn't that we

don't have the tools, as in T cells, to fight with. On the contrary, we

usually have MORE of the tools to work with, which is probably why so many

of us felt extra good in our youth or earlier yrs, barring we didn't get

Hashi's at a very early age. The problem is that our T cells are MORE

responsive to everything, because there is an enzyme that we're missing that

communicates back to the T cells what is an " enemy " and what is not, with a

normal immune system, a self recognition system that works in close concert

with all these things. In Hashi's and other autoimmune diseases, the enzyme

is either messed up (probably for many reasons) or is nonexistent, causing

the T cells not to recognize " self " substances as harmless and useful.

Therefore, they begin a blind attack, more than " normal " people's, to

" destroy the enemy " , not recognizing that it ISN'T the enemy at all. It's

kind of like having an army with no radios or a commander. At the same

time, all these attacks on a person's body weakens the other existing forces

of immunity and our " army " , probably namely the substances of the adrenal

glands and such, become so pooped out from fighting all these " battles " ,

that they go caput. It's more complicated than that, but that is why the

whole person needs to be treated probably for more than one thing,

especially the adrenal glands, sense they are in close collusion and the

leader of the pack in the endocrine system and all the chemical reactions

that occur in a series. It IS a chain reaction, and that's why it can get

quite confusing. This is why I think that it's both hilarious and sad that

the people that we all have in our thyroid and autoimmune groups are so

educated, after awhile, that they all have this vast understanding, at least

10 times more than most doctors! We have all had to work so hard at

survival, by understanding our diseases, that if they were just handing out

medical licenses, most of us would probably be scholars and would be opening

up our own practices tomorrow. Scleroderma is one of the 80 something

autoimmune diseases, and I've said in the past that, one day, they will all

be found to be in common. Believe it or not, research in hidden places, has

actually been working on this theory. I strongly believe that it's between

the adrenals and the thyroid, and one of those cannot possibly go without

the other one. You could call them co-dependents, lol.

Re: Re: flu shots

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> really? didn't know that. I don't know if I have any auto-immune diseases

anyway. Never been diagnosed for any. I know I've got scleroderma tho on my

butt & now starting to affect my hands. Just read that's an auto-immune

disease. Wasn't planing to get any flu vaccine anyway. Hope my new doctor

doesn't insist on it either.

[Guest guest]

From what you're saying here then, I've definitely got more than one or two

auto-immune diseases I'ts all too overwhelming, confusing & complicated. My

chinese acupunturist dr. (who I can't afford to pay to see anymore)said my

immune system is attacking me. So I guess she's right.

No doubt my adrenals are kaput too & I should have those tested. Well I will if

I ever get a car to drive far enough to a good doctor who'll test me out &

prescribe correctly for me. That ain't gonna happen for another month or more as

it now stands tho.

So what else is going to crop up in my unlucky life to stand in the way of my

ever getting better? Heaven only knows. I give up...no other choice...not for

now anyway.

I'm going back to bed, cover up my head & hope I can get back to sleep so I

won't feel any pain. I'm happiest when I'm asleep or unconscious anymore &

having pleasant dreams, not this ongoing " nightmare " I call " life " .

Re: Re: flu shots

Understanding the immune system in all this is a little complicated and

sometimes confusing,