Re: EFA'S & Dosage

[Guest guest]

If the ProEFA is the same as the Complete Omega, which I think I remember

someone saying that it was (someone chime in if I am offbase), then here

is what my pamphlet says from Nordic Naturals:

*Liquid: Each 1/2 teaspoon supplies 370 mg EPA, 245 DHA, 110 GLA, and

183 mg of other Omega-3s.

*Each soft gel capsule supplies 148 mg EPA, 98 mg DHA and 44 mg GLA.

So, 1/4 teaspoon is almost the equivalent of 1 capsule. This

information is all for the Complete Omega. Hope this helps!

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[Guest guest]

I did 1/2 tsp for my 36 month old, 34 pound son. I don't really

measure anymore. I probably give him between 1/2-1 tsp per day.

We've never had anything but positive reactions.

pam

> I got my box yesterday from Nordic Naturals, both the liquid &

ProEFA

> tablets. I thought I'd try first with the liquid for my daughter.

The

> dosage on the bottle is 1/2 teaspoon, any thoughts?????

>

> How long until I can expect ( hope ) to see any results?

>

>

> Thank you

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi !

You are correct in dosage of the oil. As stated in the

archives " Around just 1/4 a teaspoon of ProEFA oil will be around

the same as 'one' capsule of ProEFA since " 1/2 teaspoon of ProEFA

oil is close to the equivalent of about 2 capsules of ProEFA "

And yes the commercial/more expensive line from Nordic Naturals is

the " Complete Omega " line (or is it the " Ultimate Omega " line) Well

regardless the " Complete Omega Ultimate Omega with Borage Oil " (60

capsules a bottle) compares to the professional line " pro " called

ProEFA. (90 capsules a bottle)

Also wanted to add the following archive for the new people to

answer other questions:

" Age and weight dosage? "

One capsule of ProEFA is about the same as the dosage of EFAs in the

EFA

enriched infant formula approved by the FDA. (the real answer

however is to

start them on it prenatal

http://efaeducation.nih.gov/sig/mother.html )

And the liquid vs. capsule question -may want to read this archive

and then decide if you still want the liquid.

" Liquid vs. capsule? Hands down my vote is capsule because it lasts

way longer, easy to control dosage, easy to travel with, not a big

deal if you spill the bottle over. Passed Tanner taste test (liquid

didn't)

And..yes...you can just use a pin and " poof " like magic the capsule

is 'oil' but the oil without a capsule -can't turn it into a capsule.

resources for EFAs

http://www.cherab.org/information/dietaryeffects/efabasics.html or

http://www.speech-express.com/alternative-therapy/efa-sources.html

Here is an archive on this

From: " kiddietalk " <kiddietalk@...>

Date: Tue Jun 10, 2003 8:28 pm

Subject: Re: ProEFA liquid

Hi !

That is great news about the surges you are seeing so far in your

child within the typical one to three week period. Because you are

new to the group, and there are many other new people here too -I

wanted to once again share a view on the 'new' ProEFA liquid you may

not have thought of from a cut from an archived post which cleared

up a confusing thread of posts about accurate supplementation of

EFAs using liquid vs capsules:

" Due to the confusion of what dosage of the oils since the

introduction of the ProEFA oil in the bottle about a month or so ago

(vs. the capsules which are what most of us have used for years up

to the bottle oil) below is a reply about dosage of straight oil

from developmental pediatrician Dr. Marilyn Agin

http://www.cherab.org/information/speechlanguage/advisoryagin.html

....Around just 1/4 a teaspoon of ProEFA oil will be around the same

as 'one' capsule of ProEFA since " 1/2 teaspoon of ProEFA oil is

close to the equivalent of about 2 capsules of ProEFA "

Sadly -it still does appear that unless NN offers a dropper that

clearly has lines that state " one capsule " " two capsules " or

something like that as a guide as I suggested -that with use of the

oils -those of you using the straight oil will no longer be able to

share with all of us accurately -or even know yourself - what dosage

you are giving your child you are finding to be " too high " " too

low " or " perfect! " You will only be able to estimate. The best we

can advise now with the oil is that " 1/2 teaspoon of ProEFA oil is

close to the equivalent of about 2 capsules of ProEFA "

As I always say -brand name does NOT matter -only

Formula

Dosage

Quality

However we can use brand names as an easy to understand guide.

In our group we have found ProEFA -Efalex and EyeQ to be the three

best Omega 3 -6 oils, with ProEFA being the best so far overall due

to " it works best at low dosage " . With ProEFA -here is the dosage

which we as a group have found to be effective over the past number

of years with hundreds and thousands of children, and that has been

posted over and over at the CHERAB list. If any of you can figure

out a great way to translate this to the use of straight oil without

the capsules as a guide -please let us all know. In the meantime -

will one of the pharmaceutical R & D people in this group design an

EFA patch already so we can just slap that on our children instead

of all of this?!!

To start:

DHA -around 100 mg

EPA -around 150 -250 mg

GLA -around 30-50 mg

The only dosage we as a group know to be effective is to start with

one capsule of ProEFA a day -then go to two capsules of ProEFA a day

when you see a plateau in about 6 months to a year -then instead of

going to three capsules of ProEFA a day when you see a plateau again

in a year or more -you stay with the two ProEFA capsules a day and

add one capsule of ProEPA.

Just a reminder that the ProEFA oil needs to be refrigerated once

opened. Also once opened it has a shelf life of 2 months. ProEFA

capsules have a shelf life of almost 4 years -do not have to be

refrigerated once opened -and can be carried in your pocket if you

want. You can do this with the oil but you will smell funny.

I chose the ProEFA capsules over the liquid. As always -they work

the best at the lowest dosage.

" ,

Obviously common sense would prevail here to know that the dose

quoted by someone (who?) at Nordic Naturals was in error. They have

a new liquid ProEFA with EPA 296 mg, DHA 198 mg and GLA from borage

oil 80 mg per 1/2 teaspoon (equivalent to 2.5 ml) as the

recommended dose which is close to the equivalent of 2 ProEFA caps.

Obviously, no one could imagine giving much more to a child. On the

Nordic Naturals website they have recommendations for dosage of

being 5 mg (not ml) per lb. of combined EPA+DHA for a child 1.5 to

15 years. That would mean a 30 lb child should take 150 mg of

combined EPA+DHA which actually is a very conservative dose. That

comes to less than 1 cap of ProEFA or about 1 ml (1/5 of a tsp.) of

the new liquid. Let's not make a federal case out of this--someone

probably mixed up their mgs and mls. It is not funny, but at the

same time the parents who wrote to the group list realized

something was wrong. Since this is fish oil though, even if a child

had a megadose, he/she would probably get diarrhea and nothing much

worse. As a physician, I have seen more horrible mistakes in

medication dosing--tragic ones. Parents should always be on their

toes and question what appears to be off-base. I do hope the owners

of Nordic Naturals make sure that their staff offers accurate

information to the public.

Marilyn Agin, MD "

=====

[Guest guest]

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Have you been giving your daughter any of the supps up to this point? The

1/2 teaspoon dosage of the liquid is actually the equivalent of 2 capsules

(check on the bottles to be sure but that's what I remember). We had been

giving Josh 1 capsule daily until we switched to the liquid (which I find easier

to handle than the stabbing the capsules but that's just my thing) - when we

started with the liquid we kept it at 1/4 tsp for a bit and then we worked him

up to the full 1/2 tsp dosage over the course of a week - 1/2 tsp in the a.m.

with his milk. For awhile we were giving him another 1/4 tsp in the afternoon

but then I read (again and I think it sank it finally) that adding more EPA

might be better than increasing the dosage of the ProEFA - so we switched to

that recently in the afternoon rather than the additional ProEFA.

Anyhow, back to your question - if you have not been giving any supps to your

daughter yet, start slowly - start with either a part of one capsule (just stick

a clean pin in the capsule and squeeze out some, put the pin back in and save it

for later) - but that's why I like the liquid better - you can start with a 1/4

tsp or less and work your way up to the equivalent of one capsule, then when she

hits a plateau, add more to work your way up to the equivalent of 2 capsules

(1/2 tsp). Pay attention to the dosage amounts and the DHA/EPA/GLA levels and

base it on the amount in one capsule. Does that make any sense?

Sherry

susan3959 <susan3959@...> wrote:

I got my box yesterday from Nordic Naturals, both the liquid & ProEFA

tablets. I thought I'd try first with the liquid for my daughter. The

dosage on the bottle is 1/2 teaspoon, any thoughts?????

How long until I can expect ( hope ) to see any results?

Thank you