Guest guest Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Hi Tory. Get that free T3 right up there with that 420 and you will get rid of all those symptoms. And you will have to convince your doc to IGNORE the TSH because it will become quite suppressed. Give her a copy of the article on TSH in the FILES. And if she's a butt, find a better doc, or self-treat. Janie ) > > My question is this: > My free t3 is at 245 and the lab levels are suppose to be between > 230-420. The last time my tsh was taken it was at 1.1, she upped my > dose a smidge to get me below 1. Where is my free t3 suppose to be? > I am still having brain fog and hair falling out. My doc will > prescribe natural thyroid but I hear she can be a butt about it. From > my symptoms I feel that a natural thyroid would be best. Does anyone > have any advise or info that I can link to? By the way wonderful > group, I have learned a lot. > Much appreciate all the help in advanced, > Tory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Thanks for the quick reply. I had a feeling that my free t3 should have been higher but so far she has never said anything about my level. I am actually quite interested in self-treating. I saw in message archives that someone said they got their armour from mexico. I would love to find out what companies are reputable because in my history of hypo (8 years) no doc has listened to me and my symptoms. And most docs I have gone to think that t3 is not important enough to warrant a prescription. Again thanks for the very quick reply. Tory > > Hi Tory. Get that free T3 right up there with that 420 and you will > get rid of all those symptoms. And you will have to convince your > doc to IGNORE the TSH because it will become quite suppressed. Give > her a copy of the article on TSH in the FILES. And if she's a butt, > find a better doc, or self-treat. > > Janie ) > > > > > My question is this: > > My free t3 is at 245 and the lab levels are suppose to be between > > 230-420. The last time my tsh was taken it was at 1.1, she upped > my > > dose a smidge to get me below 1. Where is my free t3 suppose to > be? > > I am still having brain fog and hair falling out. My doc will > > prescribe natural thyroid but I hear she can be a butt about it. > From > > my symptoms I feel that a natural thyroid would be best. Does > anyone > > have any advise or info that I can link to? By the way wonderful > > group, I have learned a lot. > > Much appreciate all the help in advanced, > > Tory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 As long as you use some common sense and listen to your body you should be fine. I've ordered several times from myrxforless.com and haven't had any problems, other than it taking awhile (3-4 weeks). If you have questions, just post them! You always get good advice in return. Laurie B. Re: Just quick question Thanks for the quick reply. I had a feeling that my free t3 should have been higher but so far she has never said anything about my level. I am actually quite interested in self-treating. I saw in message archives that someone said they got their armour from mexico. I would love to find out what companies are reputable because in my history of hypo (8 years) no doc has listened to me and my symptoms. And most docs I have gone to think that t3 is not important enough to warrant a prescription. Again thanks for the very quick reply. Tory > > Hi Tory. Get that free T3 right up there with that 420 and you will > get rid of all those symptoms. And you will have to convince your > doc to IGNORE the TSH because it will become quite suppressed. Give > her a copy of the article on TSH in the FILES. And if she's a butt, > find a better doc, or self-treat. > > Janie ) > > > > > My question is this: > > My free t3 is at 245 and the lab levels are suppose to be between > > 230-420. The last time my tsh was taken it was at 1.1, she upped > my > > dose a smidge to get me below 1. Where is my free t3 suppose to > be? > > I am still having brain fog and hair falling out. My doc will > > prescribe natural thyroid but I hear she can be a butt about it. > From > > my symptoms I feel that a natural thyroid would be best. Does > anyone > > have any advise or info that I can link to? By the way wonderful > > group, I have learned a lot. > > Much appreciate all the help in advanced, > > Tory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 As long as you use some common sense and listen to your body you should be fine. I've ordered several times from myrxforless.com and haven't had any problems, other than it taking awhile (3-4 weeks). If you have questions, just post them! You always get good advice in return. Laurie B. Re: Just quick question Thanks for the quick reply. I had a feeling that my free t3 should have been higher but so far she has never said anything about my level. I am actually quite interested in self-treating. I saw in message archives that someone said they got their armour from mexico. I would love to find out what companies are reputable because in my history of hypo (8 years) no doc has listened to me and my symptoms. And most docs I have gone to think that t3 is not important enough to warrant a prescription. Again thanks for the very quick reply. Tory > > Hi Tory. Get that free T3 right up there with that 420 and you will > get rid of all those symptoms. And you will have to convince your > doc to IGNORE the TSH because it will become quite suppressed. Give > her a copy of the article on TSH in the FILES. And if she's a butt, > find a better doc, or self-treat. > > Janie ) > > > > > My question is this: > > My free t3 is at 245 and the lab levels are suppose to be between > > 230-420. The last time my tsh was taken it was at 1.1, she upped > my > > dose a smidge to get me below 1. Where is my free t3 suppose to > be? > > I am still having brain fog and hair falling out. My doc will > > prescribe natural thyroid but I hear she can be a butt about it. > From > > my symptoms I feel that a natural thyroid would be best. Does > anyone > > have any advise or info that I can link to? By the way wonderful > > group, I have learned a lot. > > Much appreciate all the help in advanced, > > Tory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 > I had a feeling that my free t3 should have been higher but so far >she has never said anything about my level. That's because she, like so many docs, is completely ignorant about good thyroid care. ( Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 > I had a feeling that my free t3 should have been higher but so far >she has never said anything about my level. That's because she, like so many docs, is completely ignorant about good thyroid care. ( Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 > My question is this: > My free t3 is at 245 and the lab levels are suppose to be between > 230-420. _____________ This is low T3 in my book. The reason is that the ranges are skewed toward hypothyroidism and most people do not feel good untill they get their T3 up above the middle of the range. You are at the botton=m of the range. Some of the more enlightened doctors who realize that the teat ranges are skewed find that people feel best with T3 in the upper 1/3 of the range. You can have your TSH go as low as 0.5 and sitll be in the range so your doctor is being cruel and insensitive to not allow you to raise your dose in response to your complaints. The ranges are skewed because they are determined by who has the test. The people that most commonly have thyroid tests are either older or sick. Thyroid function declines with age and when you are sick, thyroid function temporarily declines. This distorts the normal range toward hypothyroidism. Thyroid doses and T3 and T4 should be whereever they need to be for you to feel good. TSH is of little importance because many people have over suppression of TSH by small doses of thyroid hormone. The healthy human thyroid produces about 4-1/2 to 5 grains of Armour equivelent a day or about 333 to 370 mcg equivelent a day of Synthroid. So, theoretically if you were to take 100 mcg of Synthroid, your pituitary should sense that and drop production of TSH to tell your thyroid to make 233 to 270 mcg more of thyroid hormone to make your body have sufficient levels. In reality this does not happen with many people. Small doses of thyroid hormone overly supppress TSH and then your thyroid dose not get the message to make enough extra hormone for you to be healthy. The idiot doctor who worships this test to the exclusion of the others will not prescribe sufficient thyroid to overcome this problem. You cannot overdose on any dose of thyroid hormone less than what your healthy thyroid would make or about 4-1/2 to 5 grains or about 333 to 370 mcg of Synthroid. This is because the pituitary will drop production of TSH in whatever amount is needed to keep thyroid levels at or below what is needed, except in pituitary dysfunction where TSH goes too low causeing you to become more hypo on low doses of thyroid replacement. So, what this means is that there is a huge range of room for doctors to adjust doses up untill you feel good. All they have to do is look at free T3 and free T4 and forget about the TSH test, which is of dubious use. TSH is an idirect measure of thyroid function and does not tell you at all how much thyroid is in the blood. Most people with pituitary dysfunction need a minimum of 3 grains of Armour or about 300 mcg of Synthroid. Some can get by somewhere in the 200s on synthroid. For 83 years prior to development and heavy use of the TSH test thyroid doses were adjusted up to wherever the patient felt well. Commonly, this was 3 - 5 grains of Armour and 300 to 400 mcg of Synthroid. If you were to use Armour, you would not have to worry about osteoporosis as with Synthroid. Armour contains calcitonin, which protects bone. Another problem that causes low T3 is poor conversion of Synthroid to T3 and T2 and the other energy producing thyroid hormones. The thyroid makes 7 hormones. Synthroid is only one of them, T4. T4 is relatively inactive and must be converted in the tissues to T3 and T2 and the other thyroid hormones to give the body energy. If you have problems converting these hormones, T3 will be low, while T4 will be high. In this case you will not be getting much use at all from your Synthroid. The thyroid makes all these hormones for a reason and many tissues in the body are not good at doing the job they were not intended to do. The brain, especially has high demands for T3 and is not good at converting T4 to T3. This is probably the main reaso the healthy thyroid makes about 12% T3. You can treat yourself and adjust dose the old fashioned way, by symptoms and body temperature and pulse, or you can find another doctor who isn't putting you at risk of lifelong health problems such as cardiovascular disease, cancer, arthritis and on and on from undertreated thyroid disease. Not to mention quality of life. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Remember, we're all individuals, which is what most of these thyroid groups is about. Your normal will not be someone else's normal, but, one thing I know, is that that T3 is way too low for ANYone at all, especially if you're still having brain fog and hair loss. Just quick question > > > My question is this: > My free t3 is at 245 and the lab levels are suppose to be between > 230-420. The last time my tsh was taken it was at 1.1, she upped my > dose a smidge to get me below 1. Where is my free t3 suppose to be? > I am still having brain fog and hair falling out. My doc will > prescribe natural thyroid but I hear she can be a butt about it. From > my symptoms I feel that a natural thyroid would be best. Does anyone > have any advise or info that I can link to? By the way wonderful > group, I have learned a lot. > Much appreciate all the help in advanced, > Tory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Remember, we're all individuals, which is what most of these thyroid groups is about. Your normal will not be someone else's normal, but, one thing I know, is that that T3 is way too low for ANYone at all, especially if you're still having brain fog and hair loss. Just quick question > > > My question is this: > My free t3 is at 245 and the lab levels are suppose to be between > 230-420. The last time my tsh was taken it was at 1.1, she upped my > dose a smidge to get me below 1. Where is my free t3 suppose to be? > I am still having brain fog and hair falling out. My doc will > prescribe natural thyroid but I hear she can be a butt about it. From > my symptoms I feel that a natural thyroid would be best. Does anyone > have any advise or info that I can link to? By the way wonderful > group, I have learned a lot. > Much appreciate all the help in advanced, > Tory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Remember, we're all individuals, which is what most of these thyroid groups is about. Your normal will not be someone else's normal, but, one thing I know, is that that T3 is way too low for ANYone at all, especially if you're still having brain fog and hair loss. Just quick question > > > My question is this: > My free t3 is at 245 and the lab levels are suppose to be between > 230-420. The last time my tsh was taken it was at 1.1, she upped my > dose a smidge to get me below 1. Where is my free t3 suppose to be? > I am still having brain fog and hair falling out. My doc will > prescribe natural thyroid but I hear she can be a butt about it. From > my symptoms I feel that a natural thyroid would be best. Does anyone > have any advise or info that I can link to? By the way wonderful > group, I have learned a lot. > Much appreciate all the help in advanced, > Tory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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