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Ann - Any problems keeping the condom catheter on? Doesn't Al move a lot during

the night, thus dislodging it? I'm about ready to try it again, but the first

two attempts were failures. Our neurologist did recommend cloth tape (he gave

us a sample, in fact).....I think it's just getting used to the procedure and

the necessity that's taking time..

Thanks for any suggestions.

Elaine Grimmesey

>>> Ann 03/12/01 05:58PM >>>

,

We got a super pole installed next to the bed for Al to use to turn

over, get in and out of bed.

We use the wedge 6 " for his head and have his feet elevated with foam leg

elevators. and we still sleep in a double bed. Since we are now using

the condom catheter we are both getting a really good nights sleep.

Ann from Soddy, TN

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 06:24:27 -0800 (PST) M Bruner

writes:

> Does anyone have any good info on purchasing a

> hospital bed? My father is having great difficulty

> turning over at night and also needs to be elevated.

> My mother isn't getting any sleep because she refuses

> to sleep in a different room, but my dad's struggle

> with moving in bed keeps her awake much of the night.

> They have decided to look into getting a hospital bed

> for him, possibly with a trapeze bar to help him turn

> over at night. (Marilyn, doesn't your husband have one

> of those?

>

> Does Medicare reimburse any of the cost? My mom wants

> to get " the best " . Any opinions on what that would be?

>

> in OK

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Ann - Any problems keeping the condom catheter on? Doesn't Al move a lot during

the night, thus dislodging it? I'm about ready to try it again, but the first

two attempts were failures. Our neurologist did recommend cloth tape (he gave

us a sample, in fact).....I think it's just getting used to the procedure and

the necessity that's taking time..

Thanks for any suggestions.

Elaine Grimmesey

>>> Ann 03/12/01 05:58PM >>>

,

We got a super pole installed next to the bed for Al to use to turn

over, get in and out of bed.

We use the wedge 6 " for his head and have his feet elevated with foam leg

elevators. and we still sleep in a double bed. Since we are now using

the condom catheter we are both getting a really good nights sleep.

Ann from Soddy, TN

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 06:24:27 -0800 (PST) M Bruner

writes:

> Does anyone have any good info on purchasing a

> hospital bed? My father is having great difficulty

> turning over at night and also needs to be elevated.

> My mother isn't getting any sleep because she refuses

> to sleep in a different room, but my dad's struggle

> with moving in bed keeps her awake much of the night.

> They have decided to look into getting a hospital bed

> for him, possibly with a trapeze bar to help him turn

> over at night. (Marilyn, doesn't your husband have one

> of those?

>

> Does Medicare reimburse any of the cost? My mom wants

> to get " the best " . Any opinions on what that would be?

>

> in OK

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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We're expecting delivery tomorrow or the next day on our first super pole - from

American Medical Supply - they order out of Canada, and were very courteous and

efficient. I found them via the internet.

Elaine Grimmesey

>>> " and Marilyn " 03/12/01 08:26PM >>>

Super pole is a company out of Canada. We first learned about it from

Sophia of CA at the Cleveland Conference. She had several in her house. We

have one at the table. If someone else does not give you a source, I will

hunt one for you. A home health care equipment facility actually order it

for us.

Marilyn in TN

----------

>

>To: shydrager

>Subject: Re: Hospital beds

>Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2001, 8:59 PM

>

>Ann,

>

>So do you think the foam wedge is sufficient to keep

>his BP down? Where did you get the super pole? I know

>all of this was discussed just a few weeks ago, but I

>was having a really busy week and didn't read all the

>emails.

>

>I'll pass this info along to my parents.

>

> in OK

>

>--- Ann wrote:

>> ,

>> We got a super pole installed next to the bed for

>> Al to use to turn

>> over, get in and out of bed.

>> We use the wedge 6 " for his head and have his feet

>> elevated with foam leg

>> elevators. and we still sleep in a double bed.

>> Since we are now using

>> the condom catheter we are both getting a really

>> good nights sleep.

>>

>> Ann from Soddy, TN

>>

>> On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 06:24:27 -0800 (PST) M Bruner

>>

>> writes:

>> > Does anyone have any good info on purchasing a

>> > hospital bed? My father is having great difficulty

>> > turning over at night and also needs to be

>> elevated.

>> > My mother isn't getting any sleep because she

>> refuses

>> > to sleep in a different room, but my dad's

>> struggle

>> > with moving in bed keeps her awake much of the

>> night.

>> > They have decided to look into getting a hospital

>> bed

>> > for him, possibly with a trapeze bar to help him

>> turn

>> > over at night. (Marilyn, doesn't your husband have

>> one

>> > of those?

>> >

>> > Does Medicare reimburse any of the cost? My mom

>> wants

>> > to get " the best " . Any opinions on what that would

>> be?

>> >

>> > in OK

>> >

>> > __________________________________________________

>> >

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We're expecting delivery tomorrow or the next day on our first super pole - from

American Medical Supply - they order out of Canada, and were very courteous and

efficient. I found them via the internet.

Elaine Grimmesey

>>> " and Marilyn " 03/12/01 08:26PM >>>

Super pole is a company out of Canada. We first learned about it from

Sophia of CA at the Cleveland Conference. She had several in her house. We

have one at the table. If someone else does not give you a source, I will

hunt one for you. A home health care equipment facility actually order it

for us.

Marilyn in TN

----------

>

>To: shydrager

>Subject: Re: Hospital beds

>Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2001, 8:59 PM

>

>Ann,

>

>So do you think the foam wedge is sufficient to keep

>his BP down? Where did you get the super pole? I know

>all of this was discussed just a few weeks ago, but I

>was having a really busy week and didn't read all the

>emails.

>

>I'll pass this info along to my parents.

>

> in OK

>

>--- Ann wrote:

>> ,

>> We got a super pole installed next to the bed for

>> Al to use to turn

>> over, get in and out of bed.

>> We use the wedge 6 " for his head and have his feet

>> elevated with foam leg

>> elevators. and we still sleep in a double bed.

>> Since we are now using

>> the condom catheter we are both getting a really

>> good nights sleep.

>>

>> Ann from Soddy, TN

>>

>> On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 06:24:27 -0800 (PST) M Bruner

>>

>> writes:

>> > Does anyone have any good info on purchasing a

>> > hospital bed? My father is having great difficulty

>> > turning over at night and also needs to be

>> elevated.

>> > My mother isn't getting any sleep because she

>> refuses

>> > to sleep in a different room, but my dad's

>> struggle

>> > with moving in bed keeps her awake much of the

>> night.

>> > They have decided to look into getting a hospital

>> bed

>> > for him, possibly with a trapeze bar to help him

>> turn

>> > over at night. (Marilyn, doesn't your husband have

>> one

>> > of those?

>> >

>> > Does Medicare reimburse any of the cost? My mom

>> wants

>> > to get " the best " . Any opinions on what that would

>> be?

>> >

>> > in OK

>> >

>> > __________________________________________________

>> >

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Thanks, Barbara. Funny thing (there has to be humor here somewhere!) - Since we

first tried these about four months ago (only twice), we have been receiving a

box each month, also. It's just so incredulous when it is so difficult to deal

with insurance for the things that we REALLY need to (providing safety for Bob),

we end up with 120 condom catheters which we didn't need! Oh, well........

Thanks again,

Elaine

>>> 03/14/01 12:52PM >>>

Elaine:

Ken now has an indwelling Foley catheter which is very convenient

given the stage he is in, but for several years he used a condom catheter at

night and whenever he would be away from a toilet for a long time. We found

that after a while he became allergic to the latex one, so we always ordered

non-latex. Ken wore a large which was not the most common size. We tried

several brands and sizes before settling on the one that worked best. We

liked the ones that are self-adhering, but we always put paper tape around

too. Once in a while one would come off at night, but they usually stayed put

very well. Ken does not turn over by himself, so once he was in bed, this was

not a problem. We always put a pan under the bag so if something pilled out,

the urine would be caught. Our Home Health Company delivered them once a

month along with the bags, and they billed Medicare and our Medicare

Supplement.

I hope this answers most of your questions. Good Luck.

Barbara

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Thanks, Barbara. Funny thing (there has to be humor here somewhere!) - Since we

first tried these about four months ago (only twice), we have been receiving a

box each month, also. It's just so incredulous when it is so difficult to deal

with insurance for the things that we REALLY need to (providing safety for Bob),

we end up with 120 condom catheters which we didn't need! Oh, well........

Thanks again,

Elaine

>>> 03/14/01 12:52PM >>>

Elaine:

Ken now has an indwelling Foley catheter which is very convenient

given the stage he is in, but for several years he used a condom catheter at

night and whenever he would be away from a toilet for a long time. We found

that after a while he became allergic to the latex one, so we always ordered

non-latex. Ken wore a large which was not the most common size. We tried

several brands and sizes before settling on the one that worked best. We

liked the ones that are self-adhering, but we always put paper tape around

too. Once in a while one would come off at night, but they usually stayed put

very well. Ken does not turn over by himself, so once he was in bed, this was

not a problem. We always put a pan under the bag so if something pilled out,

the urine would be caught. Our Home Health Company delivered them once a

month along with the bags, and they billed Medicare and our Medicare

Supplement.

I hope this answers most of your questions. Good Luck.

Barbara

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