Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 hi , could they put him in typical class with a aide? chris jaekinjonahsmom <karenandjoon@...> wrote: Hi all. I can barely keep up with reading the posts let alone responding. Thank you to all who have previously responded to my posts. My son turned 3 July 1st, he has profound apraxia. He endured extensive evaluations thru our school district both verbal and non- verbal. At 26 mths my son was given a diagnosis of ASD poss PDD based on 'speech loss' (inability to repeat words) and fair to fleeting eye contact. I didn't agree with the diagnosis then and still don't today. These diagnosis have been refuted by our developmental ped. Other suggested dx have been CP, possible chiari's malformation, possible unknown/labled syndrome, etc. What we do know is that my son has apraxia, hypotonia, hypermobility. He is very social, sweet, affectionate and cognitively gifted. We are still in the midst of an unsettled IEP --mostly because we are not happy with any of the placements our school district has offered- -contained classroom, full time special ed inclusion, to mainstream with no support in a classroom with mostly 4-5 yr inner city kids. (one end of the spectrum to the next) This school district does not offer a language based classroom until 5 yrs of age. The district does not offer a gifted classroom until 4 yrs of age. This district has also never had a child that was gifted but in need of services or special ed. (apparently my son is the first) Please know that this is my first child going to school. I have not had much time to become savvy on the laws and policies, etc regarding this. SO, I am hoping for some insight and feedback... 1) If a child is 'gifted/talented' at the age of 3 do they truly qualify for special education? 2) Does the school have the right to avoid cognitive issues and place him in a classroom where he is certain to be bored as the other children are learning age appropriate material? 3) Aside from doing FBA after behaviors appear because of boredom or wanting attention, how can I encourage a school to provide a challenging enviroment. 4) for those of you whos children use sign language (we used the signing time dvds-my son clarifies with sign) how do you write into the iep that the teachers and class need to learn sign in order to communicate well with my son? 5) Should I avoid the special education model and demand more services (speech, OT, PT)? A frustrated mom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Okay so here is my question.? Is there any law that says that you have the right to go into a school classroom to see a program if you are considering thast program for a placement.? I have never had this issue but my sister is considering a 15:1:1 class for her grandchild (she is his guardian) and they won't let her see the program due to " confidentiality " ? I know there is a law somewhere that says you have to right to see a program just don't know what that is does anyone here. ? Loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 I have run into the confidentiality issue. I could not monitor my child's group speech therapy session. She can request permission from the parent of the other students in the class. A beureacrats (sp) dream. Barb On Mar 22, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Loree5@... wrote: > Okay so here is my question.? Is there any law that says that you have the right to go into a school classroom to see a program if you are considering thast program for a placement.? I have never had this issue but my sister is considering a 15:1:1 class for her grandchild (she is his guardian) and they won't let her see the program due to " confidentiality " ? I know there is a law somewhere that says you have to right to see a program just don't know what that is does anyone here. > ? > Loree > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 This is why we didn't place Logan in the self-contained program in Kindergarten. The only time they would let us see the program was after school when there were no children. WE wanted to see what the class was like. The next year we talked to the Dir. of Sped and were allowed to go to the classroom. I would recommend that you go up the ladder. Here is a funny side note.. Logan is now fully included in our homeschool but in order to participate with Sp. O. he has to go to the other school for the practices. and I pick him up from school every Friday AM and take him for an hour to the other school and then back to his school. While we are at Sp. O we are working with ALL the children and not one person has mentioned ANYTHING about confidentiality but this is the same school that would not allow us to observe the class. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Whether there is a law or not, if they refuse to allow you to visit the classroom, I would be very, very suspicious. granny On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:09 AM, <Loree5@...> wrote: > > > Okay so here is my question.? Is there any law that says that you have the > right to go into a school classroom to see a program if you are considering > thast program for a placement.? I have never had this issue but my sister is > considering a 15:1:1 class for her grandchild (she is his guardian) and they > won't let her see the program due to " confidentiality " ? I know there is a > law somewhere that says you have to right to see a program just don't know > what that is does anyone here. > ? > Loree > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 There is no explicit legal citation for looking at a classroom; however, you can go at it sideways in terms of your need to be a fully informed parent able to participate at the IEP meeting on an equal footing with school personnel by having seen for yourself what the classroom looks like and how it functions in a typical day. Offering to sign a confidentiality statement similar to what many pta volunteers sign can help. You might also-as suggested-offer to do you observation as a volunteer in the class over a day or two. Less obtrusive and you really get to see what goes on. Judi From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Loree5@... Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 12:10 PM GwenDBNO@...; rdill@...; Subject: Re: placement question Okay so here is my question.? Is there any law that says that you have the right to go into a school classroom to see a program if you are considering thast program for a placement.? I have never had this issue but my sister is considering a 15:1:1 class for her grandchild (she is his guardian) and they won't let her see the program due to " confidentiality " ? I know there is a law somewhere that says you have to right to see a program just don't know what that is does anyone here. ? Loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 You got that right!!!? LOL!! ? Loree Re: placement question Whether there is a law or not, if they refuse to allow you to visit the classroom, I would be very, very suspicious. granny On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:09 AM, & lt;Loree5@... & gt; wrote: & gt; & gt; & gt; Okay so here is my question.? Is there any law that says that you have the & gt; right to go into a school classroom to see a program if you are considering & gt; thast program for a placement.? I have never had this issue but my sister is & gt; considering a 15:1:1 class for her grandchild (she is his guardian) and they & gt; won't let her see the program due to " confidentiality " ? I know there is a & gt; law somewhere that says you have to right to see a program just don't know & gt; what that is does anyone here. & gt; ? & gt; Loree & gt; & gt; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 I did find something under no child left behind act (20 usc 6318) if a school is title I funded then under that section it states that you have aright to inspect instytructional materials and observe the classroom. I am assuming they might mean the title one program but it doesn't explicitley state that. it just says if they are funded you have a right to observe the classroom. Gonna try using it anyway as most of the personnel doesn't know the law themselves lol. Re: placement question   Okay so here is my question.? Is there any law that says that you have the right to go into a school classroom to see a program if you are considering thast program for a placement.? I have never had this issue but my sister is considering a 15:1:1 class for her grandchild (she is his guardian) and they won't let her see the program due to " confidentiality " ? I know there is a law somewhere that says you have to right to see a program just don't know what that is does anyone here. ? Loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 DITTO! Re: placement question > > Whether there is a law or not, if they refuse to allow you to visit the > classroom, I would be very, very suspicious. > > granny > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:09 AM, <Loree5@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Okay so here is my question.? Is there any law that says that you have the > > right to go into a school classroom to see a program if you are considering > > thast program for a placement.? I have never had this issue but my sister is > > considering a 15:1:1 class for her grandchild (she is his guardian) and they > > won't let her see the program due to " confidentiality " ? I know there is a > > law somewhere that says you have to right to see a program just don't know > > what that is does anyone here. > > ? > > Loree > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > -- > *Not for ourselves, but for the world were we born.* > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for >messages to go to the sender of the message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Good to know, but nclb has very little enforcement when it comes to individual children and tends to be superseded by idea and accompanying regulations. Often that means as long as the district shows the appearance of procedural compliance and can argue that it provided a fape, other laws pretty much go by the wayside. Judi From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Loree5@... Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 2:51 PM FireRose@...; GwenDBNO@...; rdill@...; Subject: RE: placement question I did find something under no child left behind act (20 usc 6318) if a school is title I funded then under that section it states that you have aright to inspect instytructional materials and observe the classroom. I am assuming they might mean the title one program but it doesn't explicitley state that. it just says if they are funded you have a right to observe the classroom. Gonna try using it anyway as most of the personnel doesn't know the law themselves lol. Re: placement question Okay so here is my question.? Is there any law that says that you have the right to go into a school classroom to see a program if you are considering thast program for a placement.? I have never had this issue but my sister is considering a 15:1:1 class for her grandchild (she is his guardian) and they won't let her see the program due to " confidentiality " ? I know there is a law somewhere that says you have to right to see a program just don't know what that is does anyone here. ? Loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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