Re: Health fair at work today

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I did one of those body fat tests a couple of weeks ago with that same

type of machine. They don't work as well if you are dehydrated - or

should I say not well hydrated. I was 35%. However, I had a caliper

test done months before and one just last week. I was told that the

caliper is more accurate. Anyway, with that, I was 22 percent. So,

that's a huge variation.

I'm pretty decently proportioned, but have more fat on my upper body.

Considering where it is, my husband is not displeased. :-)

--Kathie

>

>

> We had a health fair at work today, where a medical team did a random

> glucose, random cholesterol, measured body fat and checked blood

> pressure. I was surprised by only one number - the body fat. They

> used a machine that you hold kind of like a steering wheel, and it

> said I had 30.6 percent body fat. They recommend under 25 percent.

> I'm 5'7 " tall and wear a size four, for heaven's sake. I also work

> out regularly. But the nurse said it wasn't 100 percent accurate and

> tended to measure more from the upper body than the lower body. That

> makes sense, because my assistant, who is much shorter than me but

> weighs the same, measured lower than I did. Most of her weight is

> toward the bottom and most of mine is on top.

>

[Guest guest]

> I'm 5'7 " tall and wear a size four, for heaven's sake. . .

> my assistant, who is much shorter than me

If you're 57 inches, you're 4 feet 9 inches tall. Is your assistant really a

lot shorter than that?

Or did you mean 5 feet 7 inches?

Gretchen

[Guest guest]

> > I'm 5'7 " tall and wear a size four, for heaven's sake. . .

>

> > my assistant, who is much shorter than me

>

> If you're 57 inches, you're 4 feet 9 inches tall. Is your assistant

really a

> lot shorter than that?

>

> Or did you mean 5 feet 7 inches?

>

> Gretchen

I typed 5' 7 " , which is the abbreviation for 5 feet 7 inches. Did it

not show up that way on your screen? No, I'm not 57 inches tall, LOL.

Then I'd be even shorter than my favorite diabetes author!! ;-P

Christy

[Guest guest]

> Dang. I thought I'd finally found someone shorter than me.

>

> Gretchen

I knew that's why you were getting so excited, LOL!

Christy

[Guest guest]

> Dang. I thought I'd finally found someone shorter than me.

>

> Gretchen

I knew that's why you were getting so excited, LOL!

Christy

[Guest guest]

Geez, what do they HAVE against frequent testing, anyway??? Do they

think it's going to make us anemic? <g>

Vicki

Health fair at work today

>

>

> We had a health fair at work today, where a medical team did a random

> glucose, random cholesterol, measured body fat and checked blood

> pressure. I was surprised by only one number - the body fat. They

> used a machine that you hold kind of like a steering wheel, and it

> said I had 30.6 percent body fat. They recommend under 25 percent.

> I'm 5'7 " tall and wear a size four, for heaven's sake. I also work

> out regularly. But the nurse said it wasn't 100 percent accurate and

> tended to measure more from the upper body than the lower body. That

> makes sense, because my assistant, who is much shorter than me but

> weighs the same, measured lower than I did. Most of her weight is

> toward the bottom and most of mine is on top.

>

> Anyway, the doctor who did the glucose and cholesterol finger stick

> was surprised when I said I was diabetic. When I told him I was

> controlling by diet and exercise, and that I tested frequently, he

> wanted to know why I tested. So I told him I was going for tight

> control, and explained that I had brought my A1cs down from 10.8 to

> 4.9 by doing what I'm doing. He still wasn't buying it, and wanted

> to know if my doctor was aware I was testing often. I told him, yes,

> and my doctor wished all his patients were doing what I'm doing.

> Sheesh!

>

> When all the tests were finished, we sat with a nurse to go over the

> results. She told me I was doing a great job in keeping up my health

> and that my chances of getting diabetes were very slim if I kept it

> up. I laughed and told her she was 5 years too late, and then told

> her what the doctor had just said to me. She laughed and

> said, " Don't pay any attention to him, he's a doctor. They're often

> the last to change. "

>

> Christy

>

[Guest guest]

Geez, what do they HAVE against frequent testing, anyway??? Do they

think it's going to make us anemic? <g>

Vicki

Health fair at work today

>

>

> We had a health fair at work today, where a medical team did a random

> glucose, random cholesterol, measured body fat and checked blood

> pressure. I was surprised by only one number - the body fat. They

> used a machine that you hold kind of like a steering wheel, and it

> said I had 30.6 percent body fat. They recommend under 25 percent.

> I'm 5'7 " tall and wear a size four, for heaven's sake. I also work

> out regularly. But the nurse said it wasn't 100 percent accurate and

> tended to measure more from the upper body than the lower body. That

> makes sense, because my assistant, who is much shorter than me but

> weighs the same, measured lower than I did. Most of her weight is

> toward the bottom and most of mine is on top.

>

> Anyway, the doctor who did the glucose and cholesterol finger stick

> was surprised when I said I was diabetic. When I told him I was

> controlling by diet and exercise, and that I tested frequently, he

> wanted to know why I tested. So I told him I was going for tight

> control, and explained that I had brought my A1cs down from 10.8 to

> 4.9 by doing what I'm doing. He still wasn't buying it, and wanted

> to know if my doctor was aware I was testing often. I told him, yes,

> and my doctor wished all his patients were doing what I'm doing.

> Sheesh!

>

> When all the tests were finished, we sat with a nurse to go over the

> results. She told me I was doing a great job in keeping up my health

> and that my chances of getting diabetes were very slim if I kept it

> up. I laughed and told her she was 5 years too late, and then told

> her what the doctor had just said to me. She laughed and

> said, " Don't pay any attention to him, he's a doctor. They're often

> the last to change. "

>

> Christy

>

[Guest guest]

whimsy2 wrote:

> Geez, what do they HAVE against frequent testing, anyway??? Do they

> think it's going to make us anemic? <g>

> Vicki

----------------

It's such a puzzlement, isn't it? First, they're terrified of lows,

then, they don't want us to test. The only explanation I got from my

first doctor was that since I was only on oral meds the testing wouldn't

tell me anything, only the 3-month Alc counts. I asked how would I know

what foods I can eat and what they will do to my bg. The reply was that

I could eat anything I want - just take the pills. The doctor I have

now is way more enlightened and trusting of MY brain.

Carol

[Guest guest]

whimsy2 wrote:

> Geez, what do they HAVE against frequent testing, anyway??? Do they

> think it's going to make us anemic? <g>

> Vicki

----------------

It's such a puzzlement, isn't it? First, they're terrified of lows,

then, they don't want us to test. The only explanation I got from my

first doctor was that since I was only on oral meds the testing wouldn't

tell me anything, only the 3-month Alc counts. I asked how would I know

what foods I can eat and what they will do to my bg. The reply was that

I could eat anything I want - just take the pills. The doctor I have

now is way more enlightened and trusting of MY brain.

Carol

[Guest guest]

whimsy2 wrote:

> Geez, what do they HAVE against frequent testing, anyway??? Do they

> think it's going to make us anemic? <g>

> Vicki

----------------

It's such a puzzlement, isn't it? First, they're terrified of lows,

then, they don't want us to test. The only explanation I got from my

first doctor was that since I was only on oral meds the testing wouldn't

tell me anything, only the 3-month Alc counts. I asked how would I know

what foods I can eat and what they will do to my bg. The reply was that

I could eat anything I want - just take the pills. The doctor I have

now is way more enlightened and trusting of MY brain.

Carol

[Guest guest]

> > I typed 5' 7 " , which is the abbreviation for 5 feet 7 inches. Did it

> > not show up that way on your screen?

>

> No.

>

> Dang. I thought I'd finally found someone shorter than me.

>

> Gretchen

Hi Gretchen

We must get together. You'll like swmbo.

4' 10 1/2 " . Don't forget the 1/2 " .

You can see us here:

http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/images/gallery/alanS.htm

Cheers, Alan.

[Guest guest]

> Can't tell much about how you look between the cap and dark glasses,

> Alan...is this your incognito photo?

> Vicki

>

Yep. If you adjust your contrast and brightness a little and read the

cap - you'll see how incognito I was:-)

Cheers, Alan

[Guest guest]

> Can't tell much about how you look between the cap and dark glasses,

> Alan...is this your incognito photo?

> Vicki

>

Yep. If you adjust your contrast and brightness a little and read the

cap - you'll see how incognito I was:-)

Cheers, Alan

[Guest guest]

Any number of things can tweak the body fat monitors including: having recently

eaten

(esp. within an hour or so) and being excessively hydrated or dehydrated.

Good job with getting the last laugh on the doc!

[Guest guest]

Any number of things can tweak the body fat monitors including: having recently

eaten

(esp. within an hour or so) and being excessively hydrated or dehydrated.

Good job with getting the last laugh on the doc!

[Guest guest]

Any number of things can tweak the body fat monitors including: having recently

eaten

(esp. within an hour or so) and being excessively hydrated or dehydrated.

Good job with getting the last laugh on the doc!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/25/05 8:44:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whimsy2@...

writes:

>Geez, what do they HAVE against frequent testing, anyway??? Do they

>think it's going to make us anemic? <g>

>>>>>>>

If I recall, my doctor, the first time he looked at my logbook and saw all

the tests, said to me, " you're getting obsessed! "

I replied, " well, maybe so, but it keeps me doing what I need to be doing,

and really, each test takes about 10 seconds, so if I do ten a day, I haven't

even hit 2 minutes total time. "

" Okay " says the doctor, " but don't let it consume your life. "

I think it's common, especially if the doctor isn't diabetic or doesn't live

with one. To a non-diabetic (who assumes you change the lancet each time,

always wash your hands, wipe with alcohol, all of which would add time to

tests),

testing a lot seems like a real bother. To most of us, it gives us the

information we need to make the decisions we need to make.

I also give the example of using BG numbers to decide what to eat, not just

how much insulin to use. I usually have a slice of rye toast in the morning.

I do this because it makes me feel less alien, and I enjoy it, and Rye isn't

as detrimental to my BG as other bread. With the pump, this is easier, but

still... If my BG is above a certain level, I skip the toast and just eat the

eggs and whatever else I " m having, as my goal when BG is higher than I want it

to

be is to get it down.

Even before I was on insulin, I used BG to make these decisions. I don't get

why doctors don't get that.

Stacey

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In a message dated 4/25/05 8:44:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whimsy2@...

writes:

>Geez, what do they HAVE against frequent testing, anyway??? Do they

>think it's going to make us anemic? <g>

>>>>>>>

If I recall, my doctor, the first time he looked at my logbook and saw all

the tests, said to me, " you're getting obsessed! "

I replied, " well, maybe so, but it keeps me doing what I need to be doing,

and really, each test takes about 10 seconds, so if I do ten a day, I haven't

even hit 2 minutes total time. "

" Okay " says the doctor, " but don't let it consume your life. "

I think it's common, especially if the doctor isn't diabetic or doesn't live

with one. To a non-diabetic (who assumes you change the lancet each time,

always wash your hands, wipe with alcohol, all of which would add time to

tests),

testing a lot seems like a real bother. To most of us, it gives us the

information we need to make the decisions we need to make.

I also give the example of using BG numbers to decide what to eat, not just

how much insulin to use. I usually have a slice of rye toast in the morning.

I do this because it makes me feel less alien, and I enjoy it, and Rye isn't

as detrimental to my BG as other bread. With the pump, this is easier, but

still... If my BG is above a certain level, I skip the toast and just eat the

eggs and whatever else I " m having, as my goal when BG is higher than I want it

to

be is to get it down.

Even before I was on insulin, I used BG to make these decisions. I don't get

why doctors don't get that.

Stacey

[Guest guest]

> Geez, what do they HAVE against frequent testing, anyway???

The cost. Ten tests a day is about $3650 a year.

For people who use those tests in an intelligent way to keep A1c down,

that's cheaper than dialysis. But a lot of people don't know what to do with

the results, so it's just throwing money away.

Gretchen

[Guest guest]

> Geez, what do they HAVE against frequent testing, anyway???

The cost. Ten tests a day is about $3650 a year.

For people who use those tests in an intelligent way to keep A1c down,

that's cheaper than dialysis. But a lot of people don't know what to do with

the results, so it's just throwing money away.

Gretchen

[Guest guest]

> Geez, what do they HAVE against frequent testing, anyway???

The cost. Ten tests a day is about $3650 a year.

For people who use those tests in an intelligent way to keep A1c down,

that's cheaper than dialysis. But a lot of people don't know what to do with

the results, so it's just throwing money away.

Gretchen

[Guest guest]

> PS, tell her if she measures in the morning she'll be taller.

>

> Gretchen

I don't think she's measured since we were married - just in case the

1/2 " disappears:-)

Cheers, Alan

[Guest guest]

> PS, tell her if she measures in the morning she'll be taller.

>

> Gretchen

I don't think she's measured since we were married - just in case the

1/2 " disappears:-)

Cheers, Alan

[Guest guest]

So what's wrong with educating them? I bet at least some diabetics would

rather spend the $$ for testing than deal with dialysis if they

understood how to use frequent testing as a tool and were given a

choice.

Vicki

Re: Health fair at work today

>

>> Geez, what do they HAVE against frequent testing, anyway???

>

> The cost. Ten tests a day is about $3650 a year.

>

> For people who use those tests in an intelligent way to keep A1c down,

> that's cheaper than dialysis. But a lot of people don't know what to

> do with

> the results, so it's just throwing money away.

>

> Gretchen

>

>

[Guest guest]

So what's wrong with educating them? I bet at least some diabetics would

rather spend the $$ for testing than deal with dialysis if they

understood how to use frequent testing as a tool and were given a

choice.

Vicki

Re: Health fair at work today

>

>> Geez, what do they HAVE against frequent testing, anyway???

>

> The cost. Ten tests a day is about $3650 a year.

>

> For people who use those tests in an intelligent way to keep A1c down,

> that's cheaper than dialysis. But a lot of people don't know what to

> do with

> the results, so it's just throwing money away.

>

> Gretchen

>

>