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Tish,

have you or are you taking any enzymes supps? there are sooooooooo

many on the market. yee gods! that chiropractor site i mentioned

before didn't truely promote any brand but did say infinity2 was

good. i am curious.

thanks very much for writing.

kathryn

From: " lkwetter " <saltillo@g...>

Date: Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:59 am

Subject: Re: enzymes question

I have certainly linked enzymes to thyroid. Hypos generally have low

Tish

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> have you or are you taking any enzymes supps?

I know this was directed to Tish, but I found the topic interesting, because

I have been working with a new doc. One of the things she has been doing is

correcting all my health issues, and not just thyroid. One of the things

she has prescribed for me is digestive enzymes. She has me taking Marcozyme

by Marco Pharma International. I take three with each meal, but she would

like to me move up to 4 with each meal. Also, for low stomach acid, she has

me taking Betaine HCL by Thorne Research. I didn't tolerate it well, so I'm

not currently taking it. She believes that low stomach acid and digestive

enzymes indeed play a role in hypothyroidism. (I have Hashi's).

C.

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hello C.,

thanks for your input! i am just now scimming the surface of so

many health issues. i'm embarassed to say i never really gave a

hoot before. i think i believed too much that i " was just fat and

lazy and thats the way i would always be " . okay, put those hankies

away. skipping ahead a few decades i now am able to hear and learn

and believe i can make new choices and get healthy-er.

(that felt good) aaaannnnnd enough of that...

in my reading i keep seeing that a happy healthy liver is the

biggest and first key to get the rest right. and plant enzyme supps

are one piece of THAT puzzle.

i am gathering the ingredients needed to do a liver/gall bladder

cleanse. for some reason, japan does not sell Epsom salts or the

chem name either. strange. i do have a couple people on the hunt

for it.

has anyone here done a l/gb cleanse? is that getting waaaaay too

personal?

sorry about the rambling. my co-workers are a little tired of my

new favorite topics. heha

thank you again C.

kathryn

>

> > have you or are you taking any enzymes supps?

>

> I know this was directed to Tish, but I found the topic

interesting, because

> I have been working with a new doc. One of the things she has

been doing is

> correcting all my health issues, and not just thyroid. One of the

things

> she has prescribed for me is digestive enzymes. She has me taking

Marcozyme

> by Marco Pharma International. I take three with each meal, but

she would

> like to me move up to 4 with each meal. Also, for low stomach

acid, she has

> me taking Betaine HCL by Thorne Research. I didn't tolerate it

well, so I'm

> not currently taking it. She believes that low stomach acid and

digestive

> enzymes indeed play a role in hypothyroidism. (I have Hashi's).

>

> C.

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I use to have alot of stomach problems after eating. Now I take papaya

tablets after each meal and rarely have any problems.

Blessings,

Fionna

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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:36:22 -0700 Converse

writes:

> have you or are you taking any enzymes supps?

I know this was directed to Tish, but I found the topic interesting,

because

I have been working with a new doc. One of the things she has been doing

is

correcting all my health issues, and not just thyroid. One of the things

she has prescribed for me is digestive enzymes. She has me taking

Marcozyme

by Marco Pharma International. I take three with each meal, but she

would

like to me move up to 4 with each meal. Also, for low stomach acid, she

has

me taking Betaine HCL by Thorne Research. I didn't tolerate it well, so

I'm

not currently taking it. She believes that low stomach acid and

digestive

enzymes indeed play a role in hypothyroidism. (I have Hashi's).

C.

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She believes that low stomach acid and digestive

> enzymes indeed play a role in hypothyroidism.

__________________

Now I am really curious who this doctor is. Not many doctors realize

the connection between thyroid problems and leaky gut. It is rare

indeed.

___________________

Betaine HCL by Thorne Research.

___________________

I think this would be a good supplement for those with low stomach

acid. I didn't have much trouble with this. So, I suppose that means

I need it.

____________________

As far as digestive enzymes go, this is a really complex issue and I

have had trouble deciding about products. I have low pancreatic

enzymes and so was taking pancreatin. But, it bothers me after a

while and seems to irritate my digestive tract. Different brands can

have better or worse effects, I've found. Also, some supplements

made from cows, etc worry me a little since I am already taking

animal based adrenal and thyroid extracts. However, I have read that

pancreatic enzymes do more than digest food and actually help with

inflammation and other cellular functions.

There are quite a few plant based digesttive enzymes and I have

tried several, but an not very dilligent about keeping it up or

using a specific brand. Some enzymes are better for protein

digestion and others for carbos and fats. So, it is good to get one

with a wide array of enzymes and in as high a dose as possible.

I do take probiotics and have had good luck with Primal Defense and

with Solger probiotics. Primal Defense is really good in my book

because they are bacteria that can survive high acid and digestive

enzymes long enough to get to the lower intestine and bowel, where

many problems develope first.

Many people ferment vegetables making Keefer. These bacteria are

tougher than regular probiotics. You can read about it at Wilderness

Family Naturals.

Tish

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I take/use HYPO-D by: Nutri-West

2 tablets 3x daily before meals.

Great products!

They work very well for me and he's always given them to me.

http://www.nutriwest.com/home/index.htm

Supportive Function:

Hypo-D might be chosen by the individual with insufficient acid secretion who is

looking for additional HCL and digestive enzyme support.

Ingredients:

Each Two-Phase Tablet supplies: Phase one (Stomach): Betain HCL 155mg,

L-Glutamic Acid HCL 100mg, Pepsin 105mg, Papain 50mg, Phase two (Duodenum):

Pancreatin 100mg, Pancrelipase 50mg, Amylase 30mg, Bromelain 30mg, Ox Bile 65mg,

Parotid 2mg

Product ID: 1470

Vegetarian: No

Quantity: 90 Tablets

Suggested Dosage: 1-2 tablets 3 times daily; take with meals.

Contraindications:

Do not take in the presence of an ulcer.

Re: enzymes again

She believes that low stomach acid and digestive

> enzymes indeed play a role in hypothyroidism.

__________________

Now I am really curious who this doctor is. Not many doctors realize

the connection between thyroid problems and leaky gut. It is rare

indeed.

___________________

Betaine HCL by Thorne Research.

___________________

I think this would be a good supplement for those with low stomach

acid. I didn't have much trouble with this. So, I suppose that means

I need it.

____________________

As far as digestive enzymes go, this is a really complex issue and I

have had trouble deciding about products. I have low pancreatic

enzymes and so was taking pancreatin. But, it bothers me after a

while and seems to irritate my digestive tract. Different brands can

have better or worse effects, I've found. Also, some supplements

made from cows, etc worry me a little since I am already taking

animal based adrenal and thyroid extracts. However, I have read that

pancreatic enzymes do more than digest food and actually help with

inflammation and other cellular functions.

There are quite a few plant based digesttive enzymes and I have

tried several, but an not very dilligent about keeping it up or

using a specific brand. Some enzymes are better for protein

digestion and others for carbos and fats. So, it is good to get one

with a wide array of enzymes and in as high a dose as possible.

I do take probiotics and have had good luck with Primal Defense and

with Solger probiotics. Primal Defense is really good in my book

because they are bacteria that can survive high acid and digestive

enzymes long enough to get to the lower intestine and bowel, where

many problems develope first.

Many people ferment vegetables making Keefer. These bacteria are

tougher than regular probiotics. You can read about it at Wilderness

Family Naturals.

Tish

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