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> My 4 basic food groups are:

>

> Butter/oil

> bread

> pasta

> cheese

>

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Well, hey, cheese counts if it's with the aforementioned bread. It's about #14

on the bioavilability list for people with stomachs, but at least it's on there!

I think we can add these to the basic food groups. Shall we add the oil to the

food group or the beverage group?

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> My 4 basic food groups are:

>

> Butter/oil

> bread

> pasta

> cheese

>

**********

Well, hey, cheese counts if it's with the aforementioned bread. It's about #14

on the bioavilability list for people with stomachs, but at least it's on there!

I think we can add these to the basic food groups. Shall we add the oil to the

food group or the beverage group?

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<< Alcohol (especially my dirty martini's, margaritas and Sapphire tonics)

count as water intake! >>

I drink about 1/2-1 oz. of wine every Saturday morning. And it GOES STRAIGHT

TO MY HEAD!!! Swallow then IMMEDIATE lightheadedness. No, thank you, I think

I'll pass on the alcohol!

Hey, Bob, Rita, do you have the same reactions?? And what about the 4 cups at

Pesach??? talk about " OY! "

In Charlottesville, VA

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I agree Bob, that's like buying a blueberry bagel with blueberry

creamcheese (flavor of the month for the gentiles) ICKKKKKKY POOOOO

rita

-- In Graduate-OSSGegroups, raltman813@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 11/4/00 9:18:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> Taggie@c... writes:

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> > bagels

> >

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> PEANUT BUTTER? ON A BAGEL? OY, That's a tad sacrilegious!

>

> BobA

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I agree Bob, that's like buying a blueberry bagel with blueberry

creamcheese (flavor of the month for the gentiles) ICKKKKKKY POOOOO

rita

-- In Graduate-OSSGegroups, raltman813@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 11/4/00 9:18:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> Taggie@c... writes:

>

>

> > bagels

> >

>

> PEANUT BUTTER? ON A BAGEL? OY, That's a tad sacrilegious!

>

> BobA

>

>

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I agree Bob, that's like buying a blueberry bagel with blueberry

creamcheese (flavor of the month for the gentiles) ICKKKKKKY POOOOO

rita

-- In Graduate-OSSGegroups, raltman813@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 11/4/00 9:18:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> Taggie@c... writes:

>

>

> > bagels

> >

>

> PEANUT BUTTER? ON A BAGEL? OY, That's a tad sacrilegious!

>

> BobA

>

>

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My basic 4 food groups are:

1) Smartee's (ok, any kind of non chocolate candy!)

2) Chocolate bars of any kind!

3) Frosted mini-wheats

4) Pasta

Alcohol (especially my dirty martini's, margaritas and Sapphire tonics)

count as water intake!

O

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OK ,

Here goes #1 carbs - to include bread, pasta, bagels, and chips

2. butter - the real thing

3. chewy candy - caramels, starburst and

occasional tootsie roll

4. chocolate (sorry , but #4 is better

than off my list)

And of course, ANY liquid should count toward water - caffeinated or

not - especially coffee. With this list, a Starbuck's caffe mocha would

really rank!

Carolyn

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>Where is De when we need her to tabulate all this?

>

>Looks like chocolate is still #1, with butter being #2. Pasta is in the top

4....

>

>Water is now: diet pop, alcohol & coffee. I don't see that anyone voted

for water, so that's out.

>

>You'll note that Dr Carolyn hasn't put her .02 in yet! Hahah! Well, I

guess that makes bread #3. And iced tea in the water category?

>

>Thanks,

>

>

>www.vitalady.com

>

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OK ,

Here goes #1 carbs - to include bread, pasta, bagels, and chips

2. butter - the real thing

3. chewy candy - caramels, starburst and

occasional tootsie roll

4. chocolate (sorry , but #4 is better

than off my list)

And of course, ANY liquid should count toward water - caffeinated or

not - especially coffee. With this list, a Starbuck's caffe mocha would

really rank!

Carolyn

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>Where is De when we need her to tabulate all this?

>

>Looks like chocolate is still #1, with butter being #2. Pasta is in the top

4....

>

>Water is now: diet pop, alcohol & coffee. I don't see that anyone voted

for water, so that's out.

>

>You'll note that Dr Carolyn hasn't put her .02 in yet! Hahah! Well, I

guess that makes bread #3. And iced tea in the water category?

>

>Thanks,

>

>

>www.vitalady.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> OK ,

> Here goes #1 carbs - to include bread, pasta, bagels, and chips

> 2. butter - the real thing

> 3. chewy candy - caramels, starburst and

> occasional tootsie roll

> 4. chocolate (sorry , but #4 is better

> than off my list)

> And of course, ANY liquid should count toward water - caffeinated or

> not - especially coffee. With this list, a Starbuck's caffe mocha would

> really rank

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I KNEW bread would be #1, but I thought you were a purist and nekkid bread's as

good as buttered bread. However, butter as the entree, well this I understand!

Chewy candy and Smartees, huh? How did I get to be such a roly poly girl

without some of this stuff? As I said, I never was much of a sweet eater before

surgery. And I even liked salads and raw & steamed veggies---nekkid.

What the heck are Smartees--are these like Sweet Tarts? EWWWW!

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> OK ,

> Here goes #1 carbs - to include bread, pasta, bagels, and chips

> 2. butter - the real thing

> 3. chewy candy - caramels, starburst and

> occasional tootsie roll

> 4. chocolate (sorry , but #4 is better

> than off my list)

> And of course, ANY liquid should count toward water - caffeinated or

> not - especially coffee. With this list, a Starbuck's caffe mocha would

> really rank

*************

I KNEW bread would be #1, but I thought you were a purist and nekkid bread's as

good as buttered bread. However, butter as the entree, well this I understand!

Chewy candy and Smartees, huh? How did I get to be such a roly poly girl

without some of this stuff? As I said, I never was much of a sweet eater before

surgery. And I even liked salads and raw & steamed veggies---nekkid.

What the heck are Smartees--are these like Sweet Tarts? EWWWW!

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Swallow then IMMEDIATE lightheadedness. No, thank you, I think

> I'll pass on the alcohol!

,

I have similar reactions to alcohol - I can order a drink - after 1 or 2

sips I feel slightly drunk - wait about 15 minutes I feel sober - take

another sip and I'm back to slightly drunk! This is like being on a roller

coaster - which I have never enjoyed, so I choose not to drink. I have also

discovered that the drinks I most enjoyed pre-op are still great as

" virgins " (No booze) a strawberry margarita, Caesar, and long island ice tea

still can be enjoyed without the alcohol (they charge the same price,

however, and that kind of ticks me off as most of the price of a drink

covers the cost of the booze - not the mix- oh well I guess I can't have it

all!)

Take care

Tracey

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Swallow then IMMEDIATE lightheadedness. No, thank you, I think

> I'll pass on the alcohol!

,

I have similar reactions to alcohol - I can order a drink - after 1 or 2

sips I feel slightly drunk - wait about 15 minutes I feel sober - take

another sip and I'm back to slightly drunk! This is like being on a roller

coaster - which I have never enjoyed, so I choose not to drink. I have also

discovered that the drinks I most enjoyed pre-op are still great as

" virgins " (No booze) a strawberry margarita, Caesar, and long island ice tea

still can be enjoyed without the alcohol (they charge the same price,

however, and that kind of ticks me off as most of the price of a drink

covers the cost of the booze - not the mix- oh well I guess I can't have it

all!)

Take care

Tracey

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Pre op I used to call my diet the 5 C's Cookies, Cakes, Candy,

Cocktails and Carrots . . . The carrots were for nutrition!

Now????

Shredded Beef tacos (just 1 a week)

Garlic Bread

Cheese

Boneless BBQ Pork Ribs

Diet Snapple Raspberry Ice Tea

Mmmm heaven.

:o) Vicki

> >>It just ain't fair. Why couldn't we just malabsorb sugar and fat

and keep

> the rest?????<<<<<<<

>

> HEY! I'm with you. As far as I'm concerned, the 4 basic food

groups are:

> 1. chocolate

> 2. butter

> 3. mayo

> 4, butterscotch

>

> But when we vote this into effect, I want to change the water rule,

too. I want carbonated caffeinated beverages to count as water. Or

at least not count as ANTI-water. Sigh.

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> www.vitalady.com

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Pre op I used to call my diet the 5 C's Cookies, Cakes, Candy,

Cocktails and Carrots . . . The carrots were for nutrition!

Now????

Shredded Beef tacos (just 1 a week)

Garlic Bread

Cheese

Boneless BBQ Pork Ribs

Diet Snapple Raspberry Ice Tea

Mmmm heaven.

:o) Vicki

> >>It just ain't fair. Why couldn't we just malabsorb sugar and fat

and keep

> the rest?????<<<<<<<

>

> HEY! I'm with you. As far as I'm concerned, the 4 basic food

groups are:

> 1. chocolate

> 2. butter

> 3. mayo

> 4, butterscotch

>

> But when we vote this into effect, I want to change the water rule,

too. I want carbonated caffeinated beverages to count as water. Or

at least not count as ANTI-water. Sigh.

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> www.vitalady.com

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Pre op I used to call my diet the 5 C's Cookies, Cakes, Candy,

Cocktails and Carrots . . . The carrots were for nutrition!

Now????

Shredded Beef tacos (just 1 a week)

Garlic Bread

Cheese

Boneless BBQ Pork Ribs

Diet Snapple Raspberry Ice Tea

Mmmm heaven.

:o) Vicki

> >>It just ain't fair. Why couldn't we just malabsorb sugar and fat

and keep

> the rest?????<<<<<<<

>

> HEY! I'm with you. As far as I'm concerned, the 4 basic food

groups are:

> 1. chocolate

> 2. butter

> 3. mayo

> 4, butterscotch

>

> But when we vote this into effect, I want to change the water rule,

too. I want carbonated caffeinated beverages to count as water. Or

at least not count as ANTI-water. Sigh.

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> www.vitalady.com

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Ok, as I munch on my blueberry bagel, what is the " flavor of the month for

the gentiles " part?? Haven't you heard of all the good things that

blueberries do for you? Some sort of miracle substance if you believe any of

the hype. Me, I just like 'em. Never tried the blueberry cream cheese.

Try to only add one helping of fat with the butter. So, does this need to be

one food group or two?

Blessings!

Renonna :o)

> I agree Bob, that's like buying a blueberry bagel with blueberry

> creamcheese (flavor of the month for the gentiles) ICKKKKKKY POOOOO

>

> rita

>

> -- In Graduate-OSSGegroups, raltman813@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 11/4/00 9:18:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> > Taggie@c... writes:

> >

> >

> > > bagels

> > >

> >

> > PEANUT BUTTER? ON A BAGEL? OY, That's a tad sacrilegious!

> >

> > BobA

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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I am proximal, but still get a head rush if the vanilla extract has alcohol

in it. I have tried putting it in my protein drink. (See , I am

still trying!)

Renonna

> I drink about 1/2-1 oz. of wine every Saturday morning. And it GOES

STRAIGHT

> TO MY HEAD!!! Swallow then IMMEDIATE lightheadedness. No, thank you, I

think

> I'll pass on the alcohol!

>

> Hey, Bob, Rita, do you have the same reactions?? And what about the 4 cups

at

> Pesach??? talk about " OY! "

>

> In Charlottesville, VA

>

>

>

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I am proximal, but still get a head rush if the vanilla extract has alcohol

in it. I have tried putting it in my protein drink. (See , I am

still trying!)

Renonna

> I drink about 1/2-1 oz. of wine every Saturday morning. And it GOES

STRAIGHT

> TO MY HEAD!!! Swallow then IMMEDIATE lightheadedness. No, thank you, I

think

> I'll pass on the alcohol!

>

> Hey, Bob, Rita, do you have the same reactions?? And what about the 4 cups

at

> Pesach??? talk about " OY! "

>

> In Charlottesville, VA

>

>

>

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I am proximal, but still get a head rush if the vanilla extract has alcohol

in it. I have tried putting it in my protein drink. (See , I am

still trying!)

Renonna

> I drink about 1/2-1 oz. of wine every Saturday morning. And it GOES

STRAIGHT

> TO MY HEAD!!! Swallow then IMMEDIATE lightheadedness. No, thank you, I

think

> I'll pass on the alcohol!

>

> Hey, Bob, Rita, do you have the same reactions?? And what about the 4 cups

at

> Pesach??? talk about " OY! "

>

> In Charlottesville, VA

>

>

>

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Don't worry, you're safe. I am not the violent type.

Renonna :o)

> whatever it takes to get it in, you won't regret it. Just don't add sugar

(milk)! Hahah! Then you gain wt and wanna beat ME up! NO!

>

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