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In a message dated 9/23/2004 10:54:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jamyrogers@... writes:

> rapidly declining eyesight, they feel it is from the much needed use of

> Florinef a mild type of steroid

isn't that usually from prolonged use? how long had you been using it? and

did you take it in conjunction with hydrocortisone?

cindi

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In a message dated 9/23/2004 10:54:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jamyrogers@... writes:

> rapidly declining eyesight, they feel it is from the much needed use of

> Florinef a mild type of steroid

isn't that usually from prolonged use? how long had you been using it? and

did you take it in conjunction with hydrocortisone?

cindi

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In a message dated 9/24/2004 9:40:08 AM Eastern Standard Time,

jamyrogers@... writes:

> you would not take two steriods at the same time

I had read that it is often used in conjunction with hydrocortisone...so

that's why I was asking.

cindi

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In a message dated 9/24/2004 9:40:08 AM Eastern Standard Time,

jamyrogers@... writes:

> you would not take two steriods at the same time

I had read that it is often used in conjunction with hydrocortisone...so

that's why I was asking.

cindi

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In a message dated 9/24/2004 9:40:08 AM Eastern Standard Time,

jamyrogers@... writes:

> you would not take two steriods at the same time

I had read that it is often used in conjunction with hydrocortisone...so

that's why I was asking.

cindi

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you would not take two steriods at the same time. No, it is not from

prolonged, just the reaction of the body which I was warned this was a

possibility. The only three possibilities at my age to have rapid onset are

blunt trauma, steriods or not enough estrogen (this one male and female)

>From: nc2406@...

>Reply-To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>Subject: Re: eye issue

>Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:59:32 EDT

>'t that usually from prolonged use? how long had you been using it? and

did you take it in conjunction with hydrocortisone?

cindi

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you would not take two steriods at the same time. No, it is not from

prolonged, just the reaction of the body which I was warned this was a

possibility. The only three possibilities at my age to have rapid onset are

blunt trauma, steriods or not enough estrogen (this one male and female)

>From: nc2406@...

>Reply-To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>Subject: Re: eye issue

>Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:59:32 EDT

>'t that usually from prolonged use? how long had you been using it? and

did you take it in conjunction with hydrocortisone?

cindi

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Duh. I was also going to tell you about my doggie. He's on feldene -

a non steroidal anti inflammatory with anti cancer properties. The

feldene is drying out his eyes so now he's on eye drops. The Dr

thinks the feldene is the only thing keeping him going at this point.

(Don't think I posted this - a few weeks ago I took him in for a

urine test. His urine is still normal which the Dr doesn't want. But

sadly there were cancerous cells in his urine so the cancer is back.

The Dr said the tumour could be very small. So I'm going to spoil and

love him as much as I can while I have him. )

That reeks though - one med causes a severe side effect. The eye

drops seem to help though.

Louise

PS Happy birthday !!!!!!!! :)

> for those of you that knew I was seeing a DR today about rapidly

declining eyesight, they feel it is from the much needed use of

Florinef a mild type of steroid, Severe rapid cataract. My vision is

92% reduced from 8 months ago.

>

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Duh. I was also going to tell you about my doggie. He's on feldene -

a non steroidal anti inflammatory with anti cancer properties. The

feldene is drying out his eyes so now he's on eye drops. The Dr

thinks the feldene is the only thing keeping him going at this point.

(Don't think I posted this - a few weeks ago I took him in for a

urine test. His urine is still normal which the Dr doesn't want. But

sadly there were cancerous cells in his urine so the cancer is back.

The Dr said the tumour could be very small. So I'm going to spoil and

love him as much as I can while I have him. )

That reeks though - one med causes a severe side effect. The eye

drops seem to help though.

Louise

PS Happy birthday !!!!!!!! :)

> for those of you that knew I was seeing a DR today about rapidly

declining eyesight, they feel it is from the much needed use of

Florinef a mild type of steroid, Severe rapid cataract. My vision is

92% reduced from 8 months ago.

>

>

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Jamy you are a genius! I just recently started using some Oestrogel as I had

several symptoms of low estrogen. My eye sight has been getting rapidly

worse the past three months. I have already in ONE week seen some

improvement!

And yes, I counted flying pigges last night till I finally fell asleep

around 11:45 PM. But at least with this added Estrogen, I am sleeping

through the night once i get to sleep! This is a gretaimprovment over the

3-4 times waking during the night I was doing. No more night sweats!

Artistic Grooming

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Jamy

Is there anything that can be done, like remove the cataract(s)? Are you

going to stay on the Florinef? What did they say?

eye issue

> for those of you that knew I was seeing a DR today about rapidly declining

eyesight, they feel it is from the much needed use of Florinef a mild type

of steroid, Severe rapid cataract. My vision is 92% reduced from 8 months

ago.

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Jamy

Is there anything that can be done, like remove the cataract(s)? Are you

going to stay on the Florinef? What did they say?

eye issue

> for those of you that knew I was seeing a DR today about rapidly declining

eyesight, they feel it is from the much needed use of Florinef a mild type

of steroid, Severe rapid cataract. My vision is 92% reduced from 8 months

ago.

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Jamy

Is there anything that can be done, like remove the cataract(s)? Are you

going to stay on the Florinef? What did they say?

eye issue

> for those of you that knew I was seeing a DR today about rapidly declining

eyesight, they feel it is from the much needed use of Florinef a mild type

of steroid, Severe rapid cataract. My vision is 92% reduced from 8 months

ago.

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Jamy, The mineral corticoid used just for replacement purposes

without OD shouldn't have caused this. Did they do a rose bengal

stain, a slit lampp test??

> for those of you that knew I was seeing a DR today about rapidly

declining eyesight, they feel it is from the much needed use of

Florinef a mild type of steroid, Severe rapid cataract. My vision is

92% reduced from 8 months ago.

>

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this says slit lamp, then posterior exam no pvd, periphery exam, and glaucoma

pressure x 4 dilated and non

Re: eye issue

Jamy, The mineral corticoid used just for replacement purposes

without OD shouldn't have caused this. Did they do a rose bengal

stain, a slit lampp test??

> for those of you that knew I was seeing a DR today about rapidly

declining eyesight, they feel it is from the much needed use of

Florinef a mild type of steroid, Severe rapid cataract. My vision is

92% reduced from 8 months ago.

>

>

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this says slit lamp, then posterior exam no pvd, periphery exam, and glaucoma

pressure x 4 dilated and non

Re: eye issue

Jamy, The mineral corticoid used just for replacement purposes

without OD shouldn't have caused this. Did they do a rose bengal

stain, a slit lampp test??

> for those of you that knew I was seeing a DR today about rapidly

declining eyesight, they feel it is from the much needed use of

Florinef a mild type of steroid, Severe rapid cataract. My vision is

92% reduced from 8 months ago.

>

>

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I was given a long paper that shows any steroid can cause cataracts, liver, etc.

The package even says cataract.

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Jamy, The mineral corticoid used just for replacement purposes

without OD shouldn't have caused this. Did they do a rose bengal

stain, a slit lampp test??

> for those of you that knew I was seeing a DR today about rapidly

declining eyesight, they feel it is from the much needed use of

Florinef a mild type of steroid, Severe rapid cataract. My vision is

92% reduced from 8 months ago.

>

>

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they say that the type is very hard and the border around it is compromised and

may not form the right tissue scar that will hold the synthetic lens in place or

something like that. They did a conference call with my endo and I today. If I

stop the Florinef, I could die, if I don't that is an issue too. Thyroid disease

can cause connective tissue issues which is the same issue with the eye.

eye issue

> for those of you that knew I was seeing a DR today about rapidly declining

eyesight, they feel it is from the much needed use of Florinef a mild type

of steroid, Severe rapid cataract. My vision is 92% reduced from 8 months

ago.

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they say that the type is very hard and the border around it is compromised and

may not form the right tissue scar that will hold the synthetic lens in place or

something like that. They did a conference call with my endo and I today. If I

stop the Florinef, I could die, if I don't that is an issue too. Thyroid disease

can cause connective tissue issues which is the same issue with the eye.

eye issue

> for those of you that knew I was seeing a DR today about rapidly declining

eyesight, they feel it is from the much needed use of Florinef a mild type

of steroid, Severe rapid cataract. My vision is 92% reduced from 8 months

ago.

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glad you are doing better!!!!!! Some people use a bit at morning and at night. I

use a low amount just in the morning.( less than 1/2 stick, more like 1/4) I

just want to end the fatigue. . That is when I know that is my dose.

Re: eye issue

Jamy you are a genius! I just recently started using some Oestrogel as I had

several symptoms of low estrogen. My eye sight has been getting rapidly

worse the past three months. I have already in ONE week seen some

improvement!

And yes, I counted flying pigges last night till I finally fell asleep

around 11:45 PM. But at least with this added Estrogen, I am sleeping

through the night once i get to sleep! This is a gretaimprovment over the

3-4 times waking during the night I was doing. No more night sweats!

Artistic Grooming

Hurricane, West Virginia

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glad you are doing better!!!!!! Some people use a bit at morning and at night. I

use a low amount just in the morning.( less than 1/2 stick, more like 1/4) I

just want to end the fatigue. . That is when I know that is my dose.

Re: eye issue

Jamy you are a genius! I just recently started using some Oestrogel as I had

several symptoms of low estrogen. My eye sight has been getting rapidly

worse the past three months. I have already in ONE week seen some

improvement!

And yes, I counted flying pigges last night till I finally fell asleep

around 11:45 PM. But at least with this added Estrogen, I am sleeping

through the night once i get to sleep! This is a gretaimprovment over the

3-4 times waking during the night I was doing. No more night sweats!

Artistic Grooming

Hurricane, West Virginia

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glad you are doing better!!!!!! Some people use a bit at morning and at night. I

use a low amount just in the morning.( less than 1/2 stick, more like 1/4) I

just want to end the fatigue. . That is when I know that is my dose.

Re: eye issue

Jamy you are a genius! I just recently started using some Oestrogel as I had

several symptoms of low estrogen. My eye sight has been getting rapidly

worse the past three months. I have already in ONE week seen some

improvement!

And yes, I counted flying pigges last night till I finally fell asleep

around 11:45 PM. But at least with this added Estrogen, I am sleeping

through the night once i get to sleep! This is a gretaimprovment over the

3-4 times waking during the night I was doing. No more night sweats!

Artistic Grooming

Hurricane, West Virginia

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Absoultely any steriod can cause cataracts. However, I guess what I

am trying to say is that if you are replacing only what you are

missing it shouldn't....just like thyroid hormones can cause heart

problems but if you are only taking what you should, it shouldn't be

a problem. So, is it possible that you are taking more than the

proper dose for you? People with addisons who have to be on both

hydrocotisone AND florenef because they are missing both have their

doses monitored. In most cases they have zero production before the

florenef is replaced, because it causes changes in bp, blood volume,

etc.

I hear ya, because lots of people who take steriods for uvietis

control end up with cataracs instead...and its a major reson (with

diabeties) that I have avoided taking steriods for as long as

possible. I'm glad they looked for the uveitis in your case, good

docs!

> > for those of you that knew I was seeing a DR today about

rapidly

> declining eyesight, they feel it is from the much needed use of

> Florinef a mild type of steroid, Severe rapid cataract. My vision

is

> 92% reduced from 8 months ago.

> >

> >

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I am on a very low dose of Florinef to keep my blood pressure and renal

issues I guess at bay. I also eat a lot of salt to help. They said low

estrogen, or steriods were the main cause aside from some major chemical

issue which has never happened to be the issue. Now that I have seen a

specialist, he is sending me to a cataract specia;ist.

>

>Reply-To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>Subject: Re: eye issue

>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 17:57:35 -0000

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