PCOS and Gluten Sensitivity

[Guest guest]

" said that 85% of her PCOS clients test positive

for a sensitivity to gluten. When these women remove

gluten from their diets they often see a marked

improvement in their PCOS symptoms. She has also seen

dramatic improvement in cholesterol levels, thyroid

function and weight loss in women who have changed

their diets to avoid gluten. "

The rest of the article is here if interested.

http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art1507.asp

Arline

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Arline,

Thank you for sending this article. Makes sense to me, and may

explain why I gained weight in spite of not eating much.

I hope I can find a primary care physician soon and see if we

can at least start with the bloodwork until I can get to a GI dr

to check out something else for me that might be able to send

off for the other test thru Enterolab.

Question for you though. Can gluten issues show up on a stool

culture if a GI dr ordered one?

Kristy

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[Guest guest]

Arline,

Thank you for sending this article. Makes sense to me, and may

explain why I gained weight in spite of not eating much.

I hope I can find a primary care physician soon and see if we

can at least start with the bloodwork until I can get to a GI dr

to check out something else for me that might be able to send

off for the other test thru Enterolab.

Question for you though. Can gluten issues show up on a stool

culture if a GI dr ordered one?

Kristy

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Gluten is more than wheat...just because a product says it's wheat free does not mean its gluten free. Other grains have gluten in them.

[Guest guest]

Gluten is more than wheat...just because a product says it's wheat free does not mean its gluten free. Other grains have gluten in them.

[Guest guest]

Gluten is more than wheat...just because a product says it's wheat free does not mean its gluten free. Other grains have gluten in them.

[Guest guest]

Hi Kristy,

I don't know any other lab in the US that tests for

celiac with stool tests or rectal challenges. Dr.

Fine's tests are state of the art, divised by him (and

I suspect nobody else knows how he does it as it

involves patents, etc.) and nobody else would be

allowed probably without a cost to use his tests if

they knew. One can't just steal somebody else's tests.

The truth is nobody wants to muck around with

somebody's excrement and Dr. Fine and his employees

deserve the Nobel prize for medicine for finding out

how to really diagnose people for this. And if one

could find a lab that does it, it would likely cost a

lot more. In Europe and other parts of the world there

are rectal challenge tests and other stool tests.

If your doctor orders the gluten sensitive test from

Enterolab, likely insurance will pay for it but

doctors are so ignorant about this that I doubt you

would find anybody to do it. It depends on the

contracts with labs that the doctors have. If they

belong to certain medical groups they can't go against

their contracts. The blood celiac tests cannot

diagnose gluten sensitivity with it's whole different

set of genes, etc. I don't know why you would want to

bother with the blood tests at all but no matter what

I seem to say about this there are always some who

have to go back to the people who can't help them.

That is their choice and I guess I will just have to

keep saying it.

Sometimes we have to take our health into our own

hands and we don't need to depend upon the daddy

doctors to give us approval because they don't know

how anyway. This is probably one of them. Many

people's insurance will just pay for Enterolab if they

send the claim in. Many won't. Like it or not our

class system stinks in every way but it mostly is

exemplified in the medical system. I could go on and

on and on. I won't. Dee will kill me.

I don't want to talk about blood tests anymore at all

with anyone. They aren't any good. They are worthless.

If you want to stay sick take the blood tests.--Or you

can always just stop eating the stuff--gluten and

dairy. That would be the smartest thing to do. I don't

think there is any way that you are not gluten and

dairy intolerant, Kristy.

I would like to see you improve your health. That is

why I have been here ranting for years. I am getting

older and weaker and weaker but my mouth is still

going strong.

Arline ;o)

>

> Thank you for sending this article. Makes sense to

> me, and may

> explain why I gained weight in spite of not eating

> much.

>

> I hope I can find a primary care physician soon and

> see if we

> can at least start with the bloodwork until I can

> get to a GI dr

> to check out something else for me that might be

> able to send

> off for the other test thru Enterolab.

>

> Question for you though. Can gluten issues show up

> on a stool

> culture if a GI dr ordered one?

>

> Kristy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Kristy,

I don't know any other lab in the US that tests for

celiac with stool tests or rectal challenges. Dr.

Fine's tests are state of the art, divised by him (and

I suspect nobody else knows how he does it as it

involves patents, etc.) and nobody else would be

allowed probably without a cost to use his tests if

they knew. One can't just steal somebody else's tests.

The truth is nobody wants to muck around with

somebody's excrement and Dr. Fine and his employees

deserve the Nobel prize for medicine for finding out

how to really diagnose people for this. And if one

could find a lab that does it, it would likely cost a

lot more. In Europe and other parts of the world there

are rectal challenge tests and other stool tests.

If your doctor orders the gluten sensitive test from

Enterolab, likely insurance will pay for it but

doctors are so ignorant about this that I doubt you

would find anybody to do it. It depends on the

contracts with labs that the doctors have. If they

belong to certain medical groups they can't go against

their contracts. The blood celiac tests cannot

diagnose gluten sensitivity with it's whole different

set of genes, etc. I don't know why you would want to

bother with the blood tests at all but no matter what

I seem to say about this there are always some who

have to go back to the people who can't help them.

That is their choice and I guess I will just have to

keep saying it.

Sometimes we have to take our health into our own

hands and we don't need to depend upon the daddy

doctors to give us approval because they don't know

how anyway. This is probably one of them. Many

people's insurance will just pay for Enterolab if they

send the claim in. Many won't. Like it or not our

class system stinks in every way but it mostly is

exemplified in the medical system. I could go on and

on and on. I won't. Dee will kill me.

I don't want to talk about blood tests anymore at all

with anyone. They aren't any good. They are worthless.

If you want to stay sick take the blood tests.--Or you

can always just stop eating the stuff--gluten and

dairy. That would be the smartest thing to do. I don't

think there is any way that you are not gluten and

dairy intolerant, Kristy.

I would like to see you improve your health. That is

why I have been here ranting for years. I am getting

older and weaker and weaker but my mouth is still

going strong.

Arline ;o)

>

> Thank you for sending this article. Makes sense to

> me, and may

> explain why I gained weight in spite of not eating

> much.

>

> I hope I can find a primary care physician soon and

> see if we

> can at least start with the bloodwork until I can

> get to a GI dr

> to check out something else for me that might be

> able to send

> off for the other test thru Enterolab.

>

> Question for you though. Can gluten issues show up

> on a stool

> culture if a GI dr ordered one?

>

> Kristy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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So if somebody is gluten sensitive do they have to just cut out

wheat, or wheat AND dairy? Or is it just that dairy and wheat

allergies seem to go hand-in-hand?

Lindsey

>

> Hi Kristy,

>

> I don't know any other lab in the US that tests for

> celiac with stool tests or rectal challenges. Dr.

> Fine's tests are state of the art, divised by him (and

> I suspect nobody else knows how he does it as it

> involves patents, etc.) and nobody else would be

> allowed probably without a cost to use his tests if

> they knew. One can't just steal somebody else's tests.

> The truth is nobody wants to muck around with

> somebody's excrement and Dr. Fine and his employees

> deserve the Nobel prize for medicine for finding out

> how to really diagnose people for this. And if one

> could find a lab that does it, it would likely cost a

> lot more. In Europe and other parts of the world there

> are rectal challenge tests and other stool tests.

>

> If your doctor orders the gluten sensitive test from

> Enterolab, likely insurance will pay for it but

> doctors are so ignorant about this that I doubt you

> would find anybody to do it. It depends on the

> contracts with labs that the doctors have. If they

> belong to certain medical groups they can't go against

> their contracts. The blood celiac tests cannot

> diagnose gluten sensitivity with it's whole different

> set of genes, etc. I don't know why you would want to

> bother with the blood tests at all but no matter what

> I seem to say about this there are always some who

> have to go back to the people who can't help them.

> That is their choice and I guess I will just have to

> keep saying it.

>

> Sometimes we have to take our health into our own

> hands and we don't need to depend upon the daddy

> doctors to give us approval because they don't know

> how anyway. This is probably one of them. Many

> people's insurance will just pay for Enterolab if they

> send the claim in. Many won't. Like it or not our

> class system stinks in every way but it mostly is

> exemplified in the medical system. I could go on and

> on and on. I won't. Dee will kill me.

>

> I don't want to talk about blood tests anymore at all

> with anyone. They aren't any good. They are worthless.

> If you want to stay sick take the blood tests.--Or you

> can always just stop eating the stuff--gluten and

> dairy. That would be the smartest thing to do. I don't

> think there is any way that you are not gluten and

> dairy intolerant, Kristy.

>

> I would like to see you improve your health. That is

> why I have been here ranting for years. I am getting

> older and weaker and weaker but my mouth is still

> going strong.

>

> Arline ;o)

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Thank you for sending this article. Makes sense to

> > me, and may

> > explain why I gained weight in spite of not eating

> > much.

> >

> > I hope I can find a primary care physician soon and

> > see if we

> > can at least start with the bloodwork until I can

> > get to a GI dr

> > to check out something else for me that might be

> > able to send

> > off for the other test thru Enterolab.

> >

> > Question for you though. Can gluten issues show up

> > on a stool

> > culture if a GI dr ordered one?

> >

> > Kristy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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So if somebody is gluten sensitive do they have to just cut out

wheat, or wheat AND dairy? Or is it just that dairy and wheat

allergies seem to go hand-in-hand?

Lindsey

>

> Hi Kristy,

>

> I don't know any other lab in the US that tests for

> celiac with stool tests or rectal challenges. Dr.

> Fine's tests are state of the art, divised by him (and

> I suspect nobody else knows how he does it as it

> involves patents, etc.) and nobody else would be

> allowed probably without a cost to use his tests if

> they knew. One can't just steal somebody else's tests.

> The truth is nobody wants to muck around with

> somebody's excrement and Dr. Fine and his employees

> deserve the Nobel prize for medicine for finding out

> how to really diagnose people for this. And if one

> could find a lab that does it, it would likely cost a

> lot more. In Europe and other parts of the world there

> are rectal challenge tests and other stool tests.

>

> If your doctor orders the gluten sensitive test from

> Enterolab, likely insurance will pay for it but

> doctors are so ignorant about this that I doubt you

> would find anybody to do it. It depends on the

> contracts with labs that the doctors have. If they

> belong to certain medical groups they can't go against

> their contracts. The blood celiac tests cannot

> diagnose gluten sensitivity with it's whole different

> set of genes, etc. I don't know why you would want to

> bother with the blood tests at all but no matter what

> I seem to say about this there are always some who

> have to go back to the people who can't help them.

> That is their choice and I guess I will just have to

> keep saying it.

>

> Sometimes we have to take our health into our own

> hands and we don't need to depend upon the daddy

> doctors to give us approval because they don't know

> how anyway. This is probably one of them. Many

> people's insurance will just pay for Enterolab if they

> send the claim in. Many won't. Like it or not our

> class system stinks in every way but it mostly is

> exemplified in the medical system. I could go on and

> on and on. I won't. Dee will kill me.

>

> I don't want to talk about blood tests anymore at all

> with anyone. They aren't any good. They are worthless.

> If you want to stay sick take the blood tests.--Or you

> can always just stop eating the stuff--gluten and

> dairy. That would be the smartest thing to do. I don't

> think there is any way that you are not gluten and

> dairy intolerant, Kristy.

>

> I would like to see you improve your health. That is

> why I have been here ranting for years. I am getting

> older and weaker and weaker but my mouth is still

> going strong.

>

> Arline ;o)

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Thank you for sending this article. Makes sense to

> > me, and may

> > explain why I gained weight in spite of not eating

> > much.

> >

> > I hope I can find a primary care physician soon and

> > see if we

> > can at least start with the bloodwork until I can

> > get to a GI dr

> > to check out something else for me that might be

> > able to send

> > off for the other test thru Enterolab.

> >

> > Question for you though. Can gluten issues show up

> > on a stool

> > culture if a GI dr ordered one?

> >

> > Kristy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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So if somebody is gluten sensitive do they have to just cut out

wheat, or wheat AND dairy? Or is it just that dairy and wheat

allergies seem to go hand-in-hand?

Lindsey

>

> Hi Kristy,

>

> I don't know any other lab in the US that tests for

> celiac with stool tests or rectal challenges. Dr.

> Fine's tests are state of the art, divised by him (and

> I suspect nobody else knows how he does it as it

> involves patents, etc.) and nobody else would be

> allowed probably without a cost to use his tests if

> they knew. One can't just steal somebody else's tests.

> The truth is nobody wants to muck around with

> somebody's excrement and Dr. Fine and his employees

> deserve the Nobel prize for medicine for finding out

> how to really diagnose people for this. And if one

> could find a lab that does it, it would likely cost a

> lot more. In Europe and other parts of the world there

> are rectal challenge tests and other stool tests.

>

> If your doctor orders the gluten sensitive test from

> Enterolab, likely insurance will pay for it but

> doctors are so ignorant about this that I doubt you

> would find anybody to do it. It depends on the

> contracts with labs that the doctors have. If they

> belong to certain medical groups they can't go against

> their contracts. The blood celiac tests cannot

> diagnose gluten sensitivity with it's whole different

> set of genes, etc. I don't know why you would want to

> bother with the blood tests at all but no matter what

> I seem to say about this there are always some who

> have to go back to the people who can't help them.

> That is their choice and I guess I will just have to

> keep saying it.

>

> Sometimes we have to take our health into our own

> hands and we don't need to depend upon the daddy

> doctors to give us approval because they don't know

> how anyway. This is probably one of them. Many

> people's insurance will just pay for Enterolab if they

> send the claim in. Many won't. Like it or not our

> class system stinks in every way but it mostly is

> exemplified in the medical system. I could go on and

> on and on. I won't. Dee will kill me.

>

> I don't want to talk about blood tests anymore at all

> with anyone. They aren't any good. They are worthless.

> If you want to stay sick take the blood tests.--Or you

> can always just stop eating the stuff--gluten and

> dairy. That would be the smartest thing to do. I don't

> think there is any way that you are not gluten and

> dairy intolerant, Kristy.

>

> I would like to see you improve your health. That is

> why I have been here ranting for years. I am getting

> older and weaker and weaker but my mouth is still

> going strong.

>

> Arline ;o)

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Thank you for sending this article. Makes sense to

> > me, and may

> > explain why I gained weight in spite of not eating

> > much.

> >

> > I hope I can find a primary care physician soon and

> > see if we

> > can at least start with the bloodwork until I can

> > get to a GI dr

> > to check out something else for me that might be

> > able to send

> > off for the other test thru Enterolab.

> >

> > Question for you though. Can gluten issues show up

> > on a stool

> > culture if a GI dr ordered one?

> >

> > Kristy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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> >

>

>

>

>

>

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The answer is wheat, barley, rye, oats, anything that

contains these things and if they are smart--dairy,

too. Dairy is not gluten but so many are sensitive to

it also. If sensitive to it, it does probably as much

damage but there is less research on this.

If you want to know, get tested. I know a great lab

with accurate tests. ;o)

We aren't talking about allergies. We are talking

about autoimmune attacks on any part of the body that

will tear it up. Dairy and gluten sensitivity go hand

in hand.

Arline

--- Lindsey wrote:

> So if somebody is gluten sensitive do they have to

> just cut out

> wheat, or wheat AND dairy? Or is it just that dairy

> and wheat

> allergies seem to go hand-in-hand?

> Lindsey

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi Kristy,

> >

> > I don't know any other lab in the US that tests

> for

> > celiac with stool tests or rectal challenges. Dr.

> > Fine's tests are state of the art, divised by him

> (and

> > I suspect nobody else knows how he does it as it

> > involves patents, etc.) and nobody else would be

> > allowed probably without a cost to use his tests

> if

> > they knew. One can't just steal somebody else's

> tests.

> > The truth is nobody wants to muck around with

> > somebody's excrement and Dr. Fine and his

> employees

> > deserve the Nobel prize for medicine for finding

> out

> > how to really diagnose people for this. And if one

> > could find a lab that does it, it would likely

> cost a

> > lot more. In Europe and other parts of the world

> there

> > are rectal challenge tests and other stool tests.

> >

> > If your doctor orders the gluten sensitive test

> from

> > Enterolab, likely insurance will pay for it but

> > doctors are so ignorant about this that I doubt

> you

> > would find anybody to do it. It depends on the

> > contracts with labs that the doctors have. If they

> > belong to certain medical groups they can't go

> against

> > their contracts. The blood celiac tests cannot

> > diagnose gluten sensitivity with it's whole

> different

> > set of genes, etc. I don't know why you would want

> to

> > bother with the blood tests at all but no matter

> what

> > I seem to say about this there are always some who

> > have to go back to the people who can't help them.

> > That is their choice and I guess I will just have

> to

> > keep saying it.

> >

> > Sometimes we have to take our health into our own

> > hands and we don't need to depend upon the daddy

> > doctors to give us approval because they don't

> know

> > how anyway. This is probably one of them. Many

> > people's insurance will just pay for Enterolab if

> they

> > send the claim in. Many won't. Like it or not our

> > class system stinks in every way but it mostly is

> > exemplified in the medical system. I could go on

> and

> > on and on. I won't. Dee will kill me.

> >

> > I don't want to talk about blood tests anymore at

> all

> > with anyone. They aren't any good. They are

> worthless.

> > If you want to stay sick take the blood tests.--Or

> you

> > can always just stop eating the stuff--gluten and

> > dairy. That would be the smartest thing to do. I

> don't

> > think there is any way that you are not gluten and

> > dairy intolerant, Kristy.

> >

> > I would like to see you improve your health. That

> is

> > why I have been here ranting for years. I am

> getting

> > older and weaker and weaker but my mouth is still

> > going strong.

> >

> > Arline ;o)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Thank you for sending this article. Makes sense

> to

> > > me, and may

> > > explain why I gained weight in spite of not

> eating

> > > much.

> > >

> > > I hope I can find a primary care physician soon

> and

> > > see if we

> > > can at least start with the bloodwork until I

> can

> > > get to a GI dr

> > > to check out something else for me that might be

> > > able to send

> > > off for the other test thru Enterolab.

> > >

> > > Question for you though. Can gluten issues show

> up

> > > on a stool

> > > culture if a GI dr ordered one?

> > >

> > > Kristy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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> >

> >

> >

> >

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The answer is wheat, barley, rye, oats, anything that

contains these things and if they are smart--dairy,

too. Dairy is not gluten but so many are sensitive to

it also. If sensitive to it, it does probably as much

damage but there is less research on this.

If you want to know, get tested. I know a great lab

with accurate tests. ;o)

We aren't talking about allergies. We are talking

about autoimmune attacks on any part of the body that

will tear it up. Dairy and gluten sensitivity go hand

in hand.

Arline

--- Lindsey wrote:

> So if somebody is gluten sensitive do they have to

> just cut out

> wheat, or wheat AND dairy? Or is it just that dairy

> and wheat

> allergies seem to go hand-in-hand?

> Lindsey

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi Kristy,

> >

> > I don't know any other lab in the US that tests

> for

> > celiac with stool tests or rectal challenges. Dr.

> > Fine's tests are state of the art, divised by him

> (and

> > I suspect nobody else knows how he does it as it

> > involves patents, etc.) and nobody else would be

> > allowed probably without a cost to use his tests

> if

> > they knew. One can't just steal somebody else's

> tests.

> > The truth is nobody wants to muck around with

> > somebody's excrement and Dr. Fine and his

> employees

> > deserve the Nobel prize for medicine for finding

> out

> > how to really diagnose people for this. And if one

> > could find a lab that does it, it would likely

> cost a

> > lot more. In Europe and other parts of the world

> there

> > are rectal challenge tests and other stool tests.

> >

> > If your doctor orders the gluten sensitive test

> from

> > Enterolab, likely insurance will pay for it but

> > doctors are so ignorant about this that I doubt

> you

> > would find anybody to do it. It depends on the

> > contracts with labs that the doctors have. If they

> > belong to certain medical groups they can't go

> against

> > their contracts. The blood celiac tests cannot

> > diagnose gluten sensitivity with it's whole

> different

> > set of genes, etc. I don't know why you would want

> to

> > bother with the blood tests at all but no matter

> what

> > I seem to say about this there are always some who

> > have to go back to the people who can't help them.

> > That is their choice and I guess I will just have

> to

> > keep saying it.

> >

> > Sometimes we have to take our health into our own

> > hands and we don't need to depend upon the daddy

> > doctors to give us approval because they don't

> know

> > how anyway. This is probably one of them. Many

> > people's insurance will just pay for Enterolab if

> they

> > send the claim in. Many won't. Like it or not our

> > class system stinks in every way but it mostly is

> > exemplified in the medical system. I could go on

> and

> > on and on. I won't. Dee will kill me.

> >

> > I don't want to talk about blood tests anymore at

> all

> > with anyone. They aren't any good. They are

> worthless.

> > If you want to stay sick take the blood tests.--Or

> you

> > can always just stop eating the stuff--gluten and

> > dairy. That would be the smartest thing to do. I

> don't

> > think there is any way that you are not gluten and

> > dairy intolerant, Kristy.

> >

> > I would like to see you improve your health. That

> is

> > why I have been here ranting for years. I am

> getting

> > older and weaker and weaker but my mouth is still

> > going strong.

> >

> > Arline ;o)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Thank you for sending this article. Makes sense

> to

> > > me, and may

> > > explain why I gained weight in spite of not

> eating

> > > much.

> > >

> > > I hope I can find a primary care physician soon

> and

> > > see if we

> > > can at least start with the bloodwork until I

> can

> > > get to a GI dr

> > > to check out something else for me that might be

> > > able to send

> > > off for the other test thru Enterolab.

> > >

> > > Question for you though. Can gluten issues show

> up

> > > on a stool

> > > culture if a GI dr ordered one?

> > >

> > > Kristy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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The answer is wheat, barley, rye, oats, anything that

contains these things and if they are smart--dairy,

too. Dairy is not gluten but so many are sensitive to

it also. If sensitive to it, it does probably as much

damage but there is less research on this.

If you want to know, get tested. I know a great lab

with accurate tests. ;o)

We aren't talking about allergies. We are talking

about autoimmune attacks on any part of the body that

will tear it up. Dairy and gluten sensitivity go hand

in hand.

Arline

--- Lindsey wrote:

> So if somebody is gluten sensitive do they have to

> just cut out

> wheat, or wheat AND dairy? Or is it just that dairy

> and wheat

> allergies seem to go hand-in-hand?

> Lindsey

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi Kristy,

> >

> > I don't know any other lab in the US that tests

> for

> > celiac with stool tests or rectal challenges. Dr.

> > Fine's tests are state of the art, divised by him

> (and

> > I suspect nobody else knows how he does it as it

> > involves patents, etc.) and nobody else would be

> > allowed probably without a cost to use his tests

> if

> > they knew. One can't just steal somebody else's

> tests.

> > The truth is nobody wants to muck around with

> > somebody's excrement and Dr. Fine and his

> employees

> > deserve the Nobel prize for medicine for finding

> out

> > how to really diagnose people for this. And if one

> > could find a lab that does it, it would likely

> cost a

> > lot more. In Europe and other parts of the world

> there

> > are rectal challenge tests and other stool tests.

> >

> > If your doctor orders the gluten sensitive test

> from

> > Enterolab, likely insurance will pay for it but

> > doctors are so ignorant about this that I doubt

> you

> > would find anybody to do it. It depends on the

> > contracts with labs that the doctors have. If they

> > belong to certain medical groups they can't go

> against

> > their contracts. The blood celiac tests cannot

> > diagnose gluten sensitivity with it's whole

> different

> > set of genes, etc. I don't know why you would want

> to

> > bother with the blood tests at all but no matter

> what

> > I seem to say about this there are always some who

> > have to go back to the people who can't help them.

> > That is their choice and I guess I will just have

> to

> > keep saying it.

> >

> > Sometimes we have to take our health into our own

> > hands and we don't need to depend upon the daddy

> > doctors to give us approval because they don't

> know

> > how anyway. This is probably one of them. Many

> > people's insurance will just pay for Enterolab if

> they

> > send the claim in. Many won't. Like it or not our

> > class system stinks in every way but it mostly is

> > exemplified in the medical system. I could go on

> and

> > on and on. I won't. Dee will kill me.

> >

> > I don't want to talk about blood tests anymore at

> all

> > with anyone. They aren't any good. They are

> worthless.

> > If you want to stay sick take the blood tests.--Or

> you

> > can always just stop eating the stuff--gluten and

> > dairy. That would be the smartest thing to do. I

> don't

> > think there is any way that you are not gluten and

> > dairy intolerant, Kristy.

> >

> > I would like to see you improve your health. That

> is

> > why I have been here ranting for years. I am

> getting

> > older and weaker and weaker but my mouth is still

> > going strong.

> >

> > Arline ;o)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Thank you for sending this article. Makes sense

> to

> > > me, and may

> > > explain why I gained weight in spite of not

> eating

> > > much.

> > >

> > > I hope I can find a primary care physician soon

> and

> > > see if we

> > > can at least start with the bloodwork until I

> can

> > > get to a GI dr

> > > to check out something else for me that might be

> > > able to send

> > > off for the other test thru Enterolab.

> > >

> > > Question for you though. Can gluten issues show

> up

> > > on a stool

> > > culture if a GI dr ordered one?

> > >

> > > Kristy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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> >

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> >

> >

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Arline,

I have my ways to research and find a dr who will listen to me

to make sure that the insurance will cover the cost of the stool

test if I do it.

I would be checking in to Celiac to see if I have it to see if

it explains why I can't lose weight not b/c I'm looking for my

health to improve. My health is not going to improve. I just

need to know if I have it or not b/c I'm trying to fill in the

puzzle of my ever continuing complex health situation.

As for dairy intolerant I can tell you that I'm not having

problems with dairy.

But as for the blood tests, it's the best I can do under the

circumstances since I don't have a job.

I understand why you may not want to talk about the blood tests

but for some of us who are trying to find out what is going on

it is the best we can do due to finances like myself.

Thank you for the article and I will see what I can do after the

first of the year in spite of my limited finances.

Kristy

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Arline,

I have my ways to research and find a dr who will listen to me

to make sure that the insurance will cover the cost of the stool

test if I do it.

I would be checking in to Celiac to see if I have it to see if

it explains why I can't lose weight not b/c I'm looking for my

health to improve. My health is not going to improve. I just

need to know if I have it or not b/c I'm trying to fill in the

puzzle of my ever continuing complex health situation.

As for dairy intolerant I can tell you that I'm not having

problems with dairy.

But as for the blood tests, it's the best I can do under the

circumstances since I don't have a job.

I understand why you may not want to talk about the blood tests

but for some of us who are trying to find out what is going on

it is the best we can do due to finances like myself.

Thank you for the article and I will see what I can do after the

first of the year in spite of my limited finances.

Kristy

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With a gluten-free diet for somebody who is sensitive, how long does

it take to see an improvement in symptoms?

Lindsey

>

> Arline,

>

> I have my ways to research and find a dr who will listen to me

> to make sure that the insurance will cover the cost of the stool

> test if I do it.

>

> I would be checking in to Celiac to see if I have it to see if

> it explains why I can't lose weight not b/c I'm looking for my

> health to improve. My health is not going to improve. I just

> need to know if I have it or not b/c I'm trying to fill in the

> puzzle of my ever continuing complex health situation.

>

> As for dairy intolerant I can tell you that I'm not having

> problems with dairy.

>

> But as for the blood tests, it's the best I can do under the

> circumstances since I don't have a job.

>

> I understand why you may not want to talk about the blood tests

> but for some of us who are trying to find out what is going on

> it is the best we can do due to finances like myself.

>

> Thank you for the article and I will see what I can do after the

> first of the year in spite of my limited finances.

>

> Kristy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

With a gluten-free diet for somebody who is sensitive, how long does

it take to see an improvement in symptoms?

Lindsey

>

> Arline,

>

> I have my ways to research and find a dr who will listen to me

> to make sure that the insurance will cover the cost of the stool

> test if I do it.

>

> I would be checking in to Celiac to see if I have it to see if

> it explains why I can't lose weight not b/c I'm looking for my

> health to improve. My health is not going to improve. I just

> need to know if I have it or not b/c I'm trying to fill in the

> puzzle of my ever continuing complex health situation.

>

> As for dairy intolerant I can tell you that I'm not having

> problems with dairy.

>

> But as for the blood tests, it's the best I can do under the

> circumstances since I don't have a job.

>

> I understand why you may not want to talk about the blood tests

> but for some of us who are trying to find out what is going on

> it is the best we can do due to finances like myself.

>

> Thank you for the article and I will see what I can do after the

> first of the year in spite of my limited finances.

>

> Kristy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I just wanted to put in my 2 cents about losing weight. I have been trying to

lose 10 pounds since 1995 and no matter how hard I tried or dieted I could not

do it.

Then I actually gained 10 pounds and was getting scared because I surely was not

overeating or anything like that.

About 2 months ago I stopped eating after 7 PM and have lost 20 pounds. I

think it was water mostly because it came off in bunches. Like two or three

pounds overnight sometimes. Anyhow I am very happy and have stabilized at my

ideal weight of 140 pounds.

Ora

On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 15:31:57 -0800 (PST), Kristy Sokoloski

wrote:

>

>I would be checking in to Celiac to see if I have it to see if

>it explains why I can't lose weight.

>Kristy

>

>

[Guest guest]

, if a $99.00 test is " snake oil " , these

Doctors are getting poor at a fair rate of knots.

But, you never know, do you??

Arline

One

> thing that is true

> and will always be is that for every medical

> break-through there is

> a " snake-oil " salesman/woman out there waiting for

> somebody just like

>

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, if a $99.00 test is " snake oil " , these

Doctors are getting poor at a fair rate of knots.

But, you never know, do you??

Arline

One

> thing that is true

> and will always be is that for every medical

> break-through there is

> a " snake-oil " salesman/woman out there waiting for

> somebody just like

>

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I know I am paranoid by nature. I would pay (or go in debt, because I

don't have it) a million dollars if I could get rid of this for good,

and it sounds like enterolab is on the up and up and on the cutting

edge. I just want to make sure I don't get " taken. " That's why I'm so

glad for this list. It's saved me from chasing my tail on things that

don't work and pointed me in the right direction on things that

would've taken me a long time to find on my own.

Lindsey

>

> , if a $99.00 test is " snake oil " , these

> Doctors are getting poor at a fair rate of knots.

>

> But, you never know, do you??

>

> Arline

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know I am paranoid by nature. I would pay (or go in debt, because I

don't have it) a million dollars if I could get rid of this for good,

and it sounds like enterolab is on the up and up and on the cutting

edge. I just want to make sure I don't get " taken. " That's why I'm so

glad for this list. It's saved me from chasing my tail on things that

don't work and pointed me in the right direction on things that

would've taken me a long time to find on my own.

Lindsey

>

> , if a $99.00 test is " snake oil " , these

> Doctors are getting poor at a fair rate of knots.

>

> But, you never know, do you??

>

> Arline

>

>

[Guest guest]

There are no silly questions. Everyone is just trying to figure things out for their own and not just trust blindly, as we seem to have done with so many doctors. Arline or others, what does a gluten-free diet look like? What would your standard day or week look like? Thanks! Becky

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There are no silly questions. Everyone is just trying to figure things out for their own and not just trust blindly, as we seem to have done with so many doctors. Arline or others, what does a gluten-free diet look like? What would your standard day or week look like? Thanks! Becky

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