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> ... I am surprised you were not put on Coumadin, which is a

> blood thinner. .. Ephedrine is not something you should continue to

use, but did

> not necessarily cause your afib.

As has been noted before, there are a whole set of criteria for

coumadin use. He might not meet them.

As to Ephedrine, I found this on a medical site on the web:

Regarding the first question, yes, some over-the-counter drugs can

cause irregular heartbeat and some OTC drugs can be associated with

atrial fibrillation. The ones of concern are the ones that include

adrenalin analogs. Adrenalin is made in the body and it increases the

heart rate and blood pressure. Pseudoephedrine is one such compound.

This is present in many cold and decongestant preparations. It is

important to recognize that some weight loss products and some over-

the-counter herbal compounds contain an herb known as ma huang. This

herb has ephedrine in it. It is important to look at the ingredients

in some of these weight loss products or OTC herbal products because

this herb can cause irregular heart rhythm and has been associated,

in some instances, with sudden death due to cardiac arrest. If an

irregular rhythm, or atrial fibrillation, is triggered by an OTC

preparation, it may persist for some period of time. But generally,

it goes away on its own. However, once atrial fibrillation starts,

and if it is not corrected by intervention and does not go away on

its own, over time, the presence of atrial fibrillation in which the

rate of the heart is not kept under control means there can be

permanent damage to the heart.

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> ... I am surprised you were not put on Coumadin, which is a

> blood thinner. .. Ephedrine is not something you should continue to

use, but did

> not necessarily cause your afib.

As has been noted before, there are a whole set of criteria for

coumadin use. He might not meet them.

As to Ephedrine, I found this on a medical site on the web:

Regarding the first question, yes, some over-the-counter drugs can

cause irregular heartbeat and some OTC drugs can be associated with

atrial fibrillation. The ones of concern are the ones that include

adrenalin analogs. Adrenalin is made in the body and it increases the

heart rate and blood pressure. Pseudoephedrine is one such compound.

This is present in many cold and decongestant preparations. It is

important to recognize that some weight loss products and some over-

the-counter herbal compounds contain an herb known as ma huang. This

herb has ephedrine in it. It is important to look at the ingredients

in some of these weight loss products or OTC herbal products because

this herb can cause irregular heart rhythm and has been associated,

in some instances, with sudden death due to cardiac arrest. If an

irregular rhythm, or atrial fibrillation, is triggered by an OTC

preparation, it may persist for some period of time. But generally,

it goes away on its own. However, once atrial fibrillation starts,

and if it is not corrected by intervention and does not go away on

its own, over time, the presence of atrial fibrillation in which the

rate of the heart is not kept under control means there can be

permanent damage to the heart.

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Thanks, Trudy. I didn¹t know that. Kathleen

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>> > ... I am surprised you were not put on Coumadin, which is a

>> > blood thinner. .. Ephedrine is not something you should continue to

> use, but did

>> > not necessarily cause your afib.

>

>

> As has been noted before, there are a whole set of criteria for

> coumadin use. He might not meet them.

>

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Thanks, Trudy. I didn¹t know that. Kathleen

>

>> > ... I am surprised you were not put on Coumadin, which is a

>> > blood thinner. .. Ephedrine is not something you should continue to

> use, but did

>> > not necessarily cause your afib.

>

>

> As has been noted before, there are a whole set of criteria for

> coumadin use. He might not meet them.

>

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Knowledge is power. The more you learn about AF the better you will be able to

deal with it both emotionally & physically. The condition isn't a killer. People

live full & productive lives with AF. An national news item a couple of weeks

ago estimated 1 in 4 of all those over 40 would develop AF, so you are far from

being alone. You will learn from this support group & others there are lots of

treatment options out there.

Here are 3 websites that will help you in understanding AF:

www.a-fib.com

www.affacts.org

www.clevelandclinic.org

You will have to negotiate the Cleveland site to get to the AF portion, the

others take you right there.

Thor

> Hi, I am a 32 year old male. For a year and a half I was having

> unexpainable symptoms.

>

> I am an avid weight lifter, and frequently used ephedrine to spike

my

> energy levels during work outs. - snip -

>

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" n-2-tha-world " writes:

>Hi, I am a 32 year old male. For a year and a half I was having

>unexpainable symptoms.

>I am an avid weight lifter, and frequently used ephedrine to spike my

>energy levels during work outs.

the rest deleted...

You're not alone. I just turned 40 (old man, I know), but have been

lifting weights (OK, now I have a Bowflex) for about 26 years. More

of a hobby than an obsession, but I can totally empathize with your

feelings - this shouldn't be happening to me! I've always been the

one who took care of myself and tried to live a healthy lifestyle. So

much for that.

Anyway, afib symptoms seem to vary person to person, but I personally

still work out. I can't do it very effectively (or at all sometimes)

during an episode, but I still work out.

Try and relax and live your life as normally as possible.

Mike Dayton

Toprol and Aspirin - having an afib episode as I type this...

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Hi,

I'm new to the group and I think I have some kind of vulvar disorder.

I'm 25 years old and have been suffering from all different types of

pain when having sex. I've had this problem since I'll lost my

virginity at 18 years old. I have been to my gyno and she says that

everything looks normal. However, she has never mentioned to me any

special test or treatments . I was ready to give up until someone told

me about this group. I didn't realize how many women have the same

problems. Does anyone know of any doctors in Connecticut that can help

me out? All your responses will be greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

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