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In a message dated 9/16/2004 11:01:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> I had to up fast too. If I did not then I got debilitating sleepies and

> depression worse than before starting the meds. I had no choice but to

increase

> every time it started up again otherwise I would have been a

> tired/groggy/depressed mess not able to even feed myself.....or even caring to

I think I have mentioned before that you are my twin. Now I am convinced.

:) This is the way I was. It would have been crazy for me not to up the way I

did because I woulda just been in a coma until the four weeks was up. And

like you...my does doesn't last very long either. If I take Armour at

7:00...I'm sure better have some more in me by 1:00 for sure.

Cindi

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In a message dated 9/16/2004 11:01:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> I had to up fast too. If I did not then I got debilitating sleepies and

> depression worse than before starting the meds. I had no choice but to

increase

> every time it started up again otherwise I would have been a

> tired/groggy/depressed mess not able to even feed myself.....or even caring to

I think I have mentioned before that you are my twin. Now I am convinced.

:) This is the way I was. It would have been crazy for me not to up the way I

did because I woulda just been in a coma until the four weeks was up. And

like you...my does doesn't last very long either. If I take Armour at

7:00...I'm sure better have some more in me by 1:00 for sure.

Cindi

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In a message dated 9/16/2004 11:01:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> I had to up fast too. If I did not then I got debilitating sleepies and

> depression worse than before starting the meds. I had no choice but to

increase

> every time it started up again otherwise I would have been a

> tired/groggy/depressed mess not able to even feed myself.....or even caring to

I think I have mentioned before that you are my twin. Now I am convinced.

:) This is the way I was. It would have been crazy for me not to up the way I

did because I woulda just been in a coma until the four weeks was up. And

like you...my does doesn't last very long either. If I take Armour at

7:00...I'm sure better have some more in me by 1:00 for sure.

Cindi

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In a message dated 9/16/2004 1:40:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

>

> I suspected this....:-)

>

> Are you in NC? I thought you had said that.....

>

yes..I'm in NC. where are you? and who was your father? :)

Cindi

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Cindi, I had to up fast too. If I did not then I got debilitating sleepies and

depression worse than before starting the meds. I had no choice but to increase

every time it started up again otherwise I would have been a

tired/groggy/depressed mess not able to even feed myself.....or even caring to.

I still have to take a split dose every 4-5 hours or I drop right down with

sleepies. It hasn't mattered what the total dose, I still must redose in 4-5

hours. Last night I about crashed with tiredness at 3 hours, instead of 4-5.

After the dose I was good for only 2 hours and crashed sleepy again. My regular

2.5 mcg T3 did not help me through the night either. I woke at 5:30 AM all

restless and achy. I may be due for another increase. I will watch what happens

today. I have been on 3grs Armour and 2.5 mcg T3 for only 10 days. And to add,

if my Armour is not increased as I have been, I do not sleep well either. That

is not helpful for healing!

I think we just all need to realize we are different in our reactions to the

meds and need to do what is right for ourselves. There is no formula to follow

that fits everyone.

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

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www.northstargsdr.org

Re: Re: t3?--Alyce

In a message dated 9/15/2004 7:27:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

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> I believe that you and a few others may be acceptions, but I don't think

> this is taking into consideration most people

After reading so many accounts from folks, I think I am an exception too. I

was very surprised at how fast I could up...but my body soaked it up like a

sponge. And the hypo symptoms just started going away - but there is an

overall

weakness that I feel is from the years of defiency.

Cindi

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I suspected this....:-)

Are you in NC? I thought you had said that.....

Roxanna

I think I have mentioned before that you are my twin. Now I am convinced.

:) This is the way I was. It would have been crazy for me not to up the way

I

did because I woulda just been in a coma until the four weeks was up. And

like you...my does doesn't last very long either. If I take Armour at

7:00...I'm sure better have some more in me by 1:00 for sure.

Cindi

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I suspected this....:-)

Are you in NC? I thought you had said that.....

Roxanna

I think I have mentioned before that you are my twin. Now I am convinced.

:) This is the way I was. It would have been crazy for me not to up the way

I

did because I woulda just been in a coma until the four weeks was up. And

like you...my does doesn't last very long either. If I take Armour at

7:00...I'm sure better have some more in me by 1:00 for sure.

Cindi

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I suspected this....:-)

Are you in NC? I thought you had said that.....

Roxanna

I think I have mentioned before that you are my twin. Now I am convinced.

:) This is the way I was. It would have been crazy for me not to up the way

I

did because I woulda just been in a coma until the four weeks was up. And

like you...my does doesn't last very long either. If I take Armour at

7:00...I'm sure better have some more in me by 1:00 for sure.

Cindi

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Cute! :-)

Well, he is very tall and became prematurely grey.....sound familiar? ;-)

I'm in MA.

I just finished reading the book Ghost Riders which takes place during the Civil

War in the mountains of western NC. I thought of you up there in the woods. :-)

Wondered if you were anywhere near where this took place....Blalocks? Zebulon

Baird Vance roots?

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: Re: t3?--Alyce

In a message dated 9/16/2004 1:40:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

>

> I suspected this....:-)

>

> Are you in NC? I thought you had said that.....

>

yes..I'm in NC. where are you? and who was your father? :)

Cindi

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I 'm baffled at the psychotic and depression symptoms. Usually the T3

effect is just the

opposite. Would increasing every week be too fast?

I don't know. Five 30 mg. tablets is what I'm taking right now. My

doctor is concerned

about my TSH being too low. (rolling my eyes). I " m interested in what

other have to say!

in Va.

Not near enough, Alyce, and you did not give it enough

time....straight T3--how much was that???....50 of cytomel or

less??.....and it sounds like you did not take any Armour while on

that, right??.....I just think you are terribly underdosed and it

takes time to build it up.....what do you other people

think???........sue

~~~~~~~~~~~

> > --- In NaturalThyroidHormones , " Alyce " > > body.

> > >

> > > at 1200 out of a range 0-34. I've tried armour, I've tried

t3.

> > > I've gone back on synthroid on my own because though it didn't

> help

> > > tremendously, it was better than nothing and both the armour

and

> > > straight t3 made me psychotic. :) The armour made me cry and

> > > paranoid... the t3 just made me depressed.

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > How much Armour were you taking, Alyce???.....sue

>

> started at 1/2 grain (30 mg)... every week went up until I was on 5

> (so I guess 2.5 grains)... after that we tried the straight t3.

>

> Alyce

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Alyce, can you be even more specific? First did you have any of

these symptoms BEFORE you started Armour? Did they occur with your

female hormone surges?? Etc??

Next, you state that you started at 1/2 grain (30 mg)... every week

went up until you were on 2 1/2 grains...then tried straight T3.

When did the crying and paranoia start after you started on

Armour....after the first week...after the next 1/2 grain

raise...etc?

When did the depressive symptoms start after starting the straight

T3---after the first week...after the second week....etc??

Yes, increasing so fast MAY have caused the problems.

Janie

> I 'm baffled at the psychotic and depression symptoms. Usually the

T3

> effect is just the

> opposite. Would increasing every week be too fast?

> I don't know. Five 30 mg. tablets is what I'm taking right now.

My

> doctor is concerned

> about my TSH being too low. (rolling my eyes). I " m interested in

what

> other have to say!

> in Va.

>

> Not near enough, Alyce, and you did not give it enough

> time....straight T3--how much was that???....50 of cytomel or

> less??.....and it sounds like you did not take any Armour while on

> that, right??.....I just think you are terribly underdosed and it

> takes time to build it up.....what do you other people

> think???........sue

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~

> --- In NaturalThyroidHormones , " Alyce "

The armour made me cry and

> > > > paranoid... the t3 just made me depressed.

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > > How much Armour were you taking, Alyce???.....sue

> >

> > started at 1/2 grain (30 mg)... every week went up until I was

on 5

> > (so I guess 2.5 grains)... after that we tried the straight t3.

> >

> > Alyce

>

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