Fibromyalgia

[Guest guest]

, one of the things I've learned about any diagnosis is that the interpreter

(Dr) at that time go by their own criteria. I know for a fact now, that I've

been down the road I've been, that hypoT was most likely the problem long before

it was found. My next thing is to get my labs and all testing that this one dr

(pcp) did who only put me on bp meds, and told me I had COPD, and Congratulated

me? I've been hypoT, hyperT/Graves, and now back to hypoT and needing meds.

I was overmedicated on atd's (anti thyroid drugs) for about a year or better, so

now, I know how it feels to be hypoT. I also found that those labs just don't

apply to me anymore that the dr's want to follow. My dr's tend to forget that I

was so mismanaged on atd's and made to live in hypohell for that year, and they

love to try to bulldoze me. What was so interesting was that once my atd's were

reduced, and the hypoT labs changed, the symptoms also disappeared. I recently

stopped my Armour, thinking I would go back to the endo who'd recently tested me

and had such a fit over my taking the Armour and self medicating. I was off meds

for maybe a week, week and a half. I was the next best thing to brain dead, but

my dr's still say I don't need meds? Go figure? My arms hurt me so badly, I

could hardly move, along with all the other symptoms I get within a week of

being off the T4/T3 supplement. Same thing happened not long ago when I changed

from the Armour to Lexoxyl for a week, after my first visit with her. One week,

I was worthless and in pain again.. not to mention I was getting really ugly in

personality.

They'd all love to convince me that it's all in my head, but I've told them

straight to their face......trust me, it's not in my head. I think once the

thyroid is addressed, then other underlying things come to light and have to be

addressed next. Something about getting the armour in our systems starts us on

the road to recovery from all these symptoms we have. When I recently stopped

the Armour, I was almost brain dead at work. I couldn't accomplish anything,

and if I listened to my dr, he'd be willing to tell me it's not the case. He's

just not the one suffering from constipation, carpal tunnel, headaches,

lethargy, and all the aches and pains I get when the meds are stopped. If I

listen to some people, I'd not even be on Armour as I've gone from being hyperT

to hypoT without RAI ablation. Funny thing though is that T3/T4 makes me feel

alive again, and I'm able to do things that I've not done in years.

I also seen on our news & read it from the Channel 11 News group here about a

treatment for Fibromyalgia that was found to restore the health of one woman who

had been on disability due to how debilitating the disease left her. There was

one dr who treated her with HGH (human growth hormone), and she is now back

feeling like her normal self, and able to do things she hasn't done in years

like raising dogs that she'd had to give up. There was only one dr at that

time, and this has been a year or two ago that tried this, and had good results

for her. They had her on the news talking about how miraculous it was that her

health had actually been restored. I've never seen anything else on the

subject, but I think once the underlying thyroid needs are met, then the next

step is to work forward and find another solution for the existing problems. I

just read in Solved: The Riddle of Illness, that while Broda never meant

to suggest that Armour was a cure all, they were all amazed, who used his

methods that so many people responded favorably.

SandyE~Houston

FIBROMYALGIA

I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia first by a chiropractor back in the early

1980's. I had pain at all the pressure points that they palpate to help with

diagnosis. When the chiropractic therapy didn't help after about 2 years, I

went to a Rheumatologist who confirmed the diagnosis and put me on NSAIDS.

Nothing really helps the pain go away, but there are some things that aggrivate

it, stress being the big factor.

For over 15 years I thought I had a slow thyroid, because everything about me

was slow, energy very low, headaches, overweight, lethargic....but all this

could also be related to the fibro. And I was also diagnosed with CFS. I had

thyroid tests done at varios times over the 15 year period (and anti-thyroid

antibody) but I was told all was OK.

It was until I tripped into this board a few months ago that I started Armour

on my own. I'm taking 4 1/2 Armour daily (divided) and 20 hc (divided). I

don't see a differrence in the pain level yet.

[Guest guest]

, one of the things I've learned about any diagnosis is that the interpreter

(Dr) at that time go by their own criteria. I know for a fact now, that I've

been down the road I've been, that hypoT was most likely the problem long before

it was found. My next thing is to get my labs and all testing that this one dr

(pcp) did who only put me on bp meds, and told me I had COPD, and Congratulated

me? I've been hypoT, hyperT/Graves, and now back to hypoT and needing meds.

I was overmedicated on atd's (anti thyroid drugs) for about a year or better, so

now, I know how it feels to be hypoT. I also found that those labs just don't

apply to me anymore that the dr's want to follow. My dr's tend to forget that I

was so mismanaged on atd's and made to live in hypohell for that year, and they

love to try to bulldoze me. What was so interesting was that once my atd's were

reduced, and the hypoT labs changed, the symptoms also disappeared. I recently

stopped my Armour, thinking I would go back to the endo who'd recently tested me

and had such a fit over my taking the Armour and self medicating. I was off meds

for maybe a week, week and a half. I was the next best thing to brain dead, but

my dr's still say I don't need meds? Go figure? My arms hurt me so badly, I

could hardly move, along with all the other symptoms I get within a week of

being off the T4/T3 supplement. Same thing happened not long ago when I changed

from the Armour to Lexoxyl for a week, after my first visit with her. One week,

I was worthless and in pain again.. not to mention I was getting really ugly in

personality.

They'd all love to convince me that it's all in my head, but I've told them

straight to their face......trust me, it's not in my head. I think once the

thyroid is addressed, then other underlying things come to light and have to be

addressed next. Something about getting the armour in our systems starts us on

the road to recovery from all these symptoms we have. When I recently stopped

the Armour, I was almost brain dead at work. I couldn't accomplish anything,

and if I listened to my dr, he'd be willing to tell me it's not the case. He's

just not the one suffering from constipation, carpal tunnel, headaches,

lethargy, and all the aches and pains I get when the meds are stopped. If I

listen to some people, I'd not even be on Armour as I've gone from being hyperT

to hypoT without RAI ablation. Funny thing though is that T3/T4 makes me feel

alive again, and I'm able to do things that I've not done in years.

I also seen on our news & read it from the Channel 11 News group here about a

treatment for Fibromyalgia that was found to restore the health of one woman who

had been on disability due to how debilitating the disease left her. There was

one dr who treated her with HGH (human growth hormone), and she is now back

feeling like her normal self, and able to do things she hasn't done in years

like raising dogs that she'd had to give up. There was only one dr at that

time, and this has been a year or two ago that tried this, and had good results

for her. They had her on the news talking about how miraculous it was that her

health had actually been restored. I've never seen anything else on the

subject, but I think once the underlying thyroid needs are met, then the next

step is to work forward and find another solution for the existing problems. I

just read in Solved: The Riddle of Illness, that while Broda never meant

to suggest that Armour was a cure all, they were all amazed, who used his

methods that so many people responded favorably.

SandyE~Houston

FIBROMYALGIA

I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia first by a chiropractor back in the early

1980's. I had pain at all the pressure points that they palpate to help with

diagnosis. When the chiropractic therapy didn't help after about 2 years, I

went to a Rheumatologist who confirmed the diagnosis and put me on NSAIDS.

Nothing really helps the pain go away, but there are some things that aggrivate

it, stress being the big factor.

For over 15 years I thought I had a slow thyroid, because everything about me

was slow, energy very low, headaches, overweight, lethargic....but all this

could also be related to the fibro. And I was also diagnosed with CFS. I had

thyroid tests done at varios times over the 15 year period (and anti-thyroid

antibody) but I was told all was OK.

It was until I tripped into this board a few months ago that I started Armour

on my own. I'm taking 4 1/2 Armour daily (divided) and 20 hc (divided). I

don't see a differrence in the pain level yet.

[Guest guest]

, one of the things I've learned about any diagnosis is that the interpreter

(Dr) at that time go by their own criteria. I know for a fact now, that I've

been down the road I've been, that hypoT was most likely the problem long before

it was found. My next thing is to get my labs and all testing that this one dr

(pcp) did who only put me on bp meds, and told me I had COPD, and Congratulated

me? I've been hypoT, hyperT/Graves, and now back to hypoT and needing meds.

I was overmedicated on atd's (anti thyroid drugs) for about a year or better, so

now, I know how it feels to be hypoT. I also found that those labs just don't

apply to me anymore that the dr's want to follow. My dr's tend to forget that I

was so mismanaged on atd's and made to live in hypohell for that year, and they

love to try to bulldoze me. What was so interesting was that once my atd's were

reduced, and the hypoT labs changed, the symptoms also disappeared. I recently

stopped my Armour, thinking I would go back to the endo who'd recently tested me

and had such a fit over my taking the Armour and self medicating. I was off meds

for maybe a week, week and a half. I was the next best thing to brain dead, but

my dr's still say I don't need meds? Go figure? My arms hurt me so badly, I

could hardly move, along with all the other symptoms I get within a week of

being off the T4/T3 supplement. Same thing happened not long ago when I changed

from the Armour to Lexoxyl for a week, after my first visit with her. One week,

I was worthless and in pain again.. not to mention I was getting really ugly in

personality.

They'd all love to convince me that it's all in my head, but I've told them

straight to their face......trust me, it's not in my head. I think once the

thyroid is addressed, then other underlying things come to light and have to be

addressed next. Something about getting the armour in our systems starts us on

the road to recovery from all these symptoms we have. When I recently stopped

the Armour, I was almost brain dead at work. I couldn't accomplish anything,

and if I listened to my dr, he'd be willing to tell me it's not the case. He's

just not the one suffering from constipation, carpal tunnel, headaches,

lethargy, and all the aches and pains I get when the meds are stopped. If I

listen to some people, I'd not even be on Armour as I've gone from being hyperT

to hypoT without RAI ablation. Funny thing though is that T3/T4 makes me feel

alive again, and I'm able to do things that I've not done in years.

I also seen on our news & read it from the Channel 11 News group here about a

treatment for Fibromyalgia that was found to restore the health of one woman who

had been on disability due to how debilitating the disease left her. There was

one dr who treated her with HGH (human growth hormone), and she is now back

feeling like her normal self, and able to do things she hasn't done in years

like raising dogs that she'd had to give up. There was only one dr at that

time, and this has been a year or two ago that tried this, and had good results

for her. They had her on the news talking about how miraculous it was that her

health had actually been restored. I've never seen anything else on the

subject, but I think once the underlying thyroid needs are met, then the next

step is to work forward and find another solution for the existing problems. I

just read in Solved: The Riddle of Illness, that while Broda never meant

to suggest that Armour was a cure all, they were all amazed, who used his

methods that so many people responded favorably.

SandyE~Houston

FIBROMYALGIA

I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia first by a chiropractor back in the early

1980's. I had pain at all the pressure points that they palpate to help with

diagnosis. When the chiropractic therapy didn't help after about 2 years, I

went to a Rheumatologist who confirmed the diagnosis and put me on NSAIDS.

Nothing really helps the pain go away, but there are some things that aggrivate

it, stress being the big factor.

For over 15 years I thought I had a slow thyroid, because everything about me

was slow, energy very low, headaches, overweight, lethargic....but all this

could also be related to the fibro. And I was also diagnosed with CFS. I had

thyroid tests done at varios times over the 15 year period (and anti-thyroid

antibody) but I was told all was OK.

It was until I tripped into this board a few months ago that I started Armour

on my own. I'm taking 4 1/2 Armour daily (divided) and 20 hc (divided). I

don't see a differrence in the pain level yet.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/7/2004 10:42:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,

ryno@... writes:

> Dr. Lowe feels fibromyalgia is a result of hypo, which you

> probably already know. Another Doctor I have come across that

> feels hypo is a significant contributor to fibro and chronic fatigue

> is Teitelbaum

And to take this a bit further..seems like I read from dr. lowe that it could

be more " resistance to thyroid hormone " as opposed to hypo as defined by

labs.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/7/2004 10:42:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,

ryno@... writes:

> Dr. Lowe feels fibromyalgia is a result of hypo, which you

> probably already know. Another Doctor I have come across that

> feels hypo is a significant contributor to fibro and chronic fatigue

> is Teitelbaum

And to take this a bit further..seems like I read from dr. lowe that it could

be more " resistance to thyroid hormone " as opposed to hypo as defined by

labs.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

Roxanna,

An explanation of the sites along with a diagram can be found at:

http://www.co-cure.org/fibrodef.htm

FIBROMYALGIA

I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia first by a chiropractor back in the early

1980's. I had pain at all the pressure points that they palpate to help with

diagnosis. When the chiropractic therapy didn't help after about 2 years, I

went to a Rheumatologist who confirmed the diagnosis and put me on NSAIDS.

Nothing really helps the pain go away, but there are some things that aggrivate

it, stress being the big factor.

For over 15 years I thought I had a slow thyroid, because everything about

me was slow, energy very low, headaches, overweight, lethargic....but all this

could also be related to the fibro. And I was also diagnosed with CFS. I had

thyroid tests done at varios times over the 15 year period (and anti-thyroid

antibody) but I was told all was OK.

It was until I tripped into this board a few months ago that I started

Armour on my own. I'm taking 4 1/2 Armour daily (divided) and 20 hc (divided).

I don't see a differrence in the pain level yet.

[Guest guest]

Roxanna,

An explanation of the sites along with a diagram can be found at:

http://www.co-cure.org/fibrodef.htm

FIBROMYALGIA

I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia first by a chiropractor back in the early

1980's. I had pain at all the pressure points that they palpate to help with

diagnosis. When the chiropractic therapy didn't help after about 2 years, I

went to a Rheumatologist who confirmed the diagnosis and put me on NSAIDS.

Nothing really helps the pain go away, but there are some things that aggrivate

it, stress being the big factor.

For over 15 years I thought I had a slow thyroid, because everything about

me was slow, energy very low, headaches, overweight, lethargic....but all this

could also be related to the fibro. And I was also diagnosed with CFS. I had

thyroid tests done at varios times over the 15 year period (and anti-thyroid

antibody) but I was told all was OK.

It was until I tripped into this board a few months ago that I started

Armour on my own. I'm taking 4 1/2 Armour daily (divided) and 20 hc (divided).

I don't see a differrence in the pain level yet.

[Guest guest]

Roxanna,

An explanation of the sites along with a diagram can be found at:

http://www.co-cure.org/fibrodef.htm

FIBROMYALGIA

I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia first by a chiropractor back in the early

1980's. I had pain at all the pressure points that they palpate to help with

diagnosis. When the chiropractic therapy didn't help after about 2 years, I

went to a Rheumatologist who confirmed the diagnosis and put me on NSAIDS.

Nothing really helps the pain go away, but there are some things that aggrivate

it, stress being the big factor.

For over 15 years I thought I had a slow thyroid, because everything about

me was slow, energy very low, headaches, overweight, lethargic....but all this

could also be related to the fibro. And I was also diagnosed with CFS. I had

thyroid tests done at varios times over the 15 year period (and anti-thyroid

antibody) but I was told all was OK.

It was until I tripped into this board a few months ago that I started

Armour on my own. I'm taking 4 1/2 Armour daily (divided) and 20 hc (divided).

I don't see a differrence in the pain level yet.

[Guest guest]

RE: FIBROMYALGIA

I really believe that fibro is nothing more than undaignosed hypoT.

One thing you said struck me: " there are some things that aggrivate it,

stress being the big factor " . I wonder if the adrenals may be involved

here. We all know that stress, stresses the adrenals. Maybe when

you're stressed, the adrenals are really taxed therefore more aches.

Perhaps you need to try increasing your dose, just for a little while

to see if it helps the pain. Now I know you don't want to be on a high

dose too long as the adrenals will shut down. But doubling your dose

for a little trial (mabye a week or two) wouldn't hurt. It would give

you an idea as to if this is adrenal related. Are you still on the

NSAIDS?

Blessings,

Debbie K.

I only take the NSAIDS when it gets really bad, not as a daily thing.

I had an operation on my stomach 4 years ago and I'm really not supposed

to take them if I can avoid it.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

RE: FIBROMYALGIA

I really believe that fibro is nothing more than undaignosed hypoT.

One thing you said struck me: " there are some things that aggrivate it,

stress being the big factor " . I wonder if the adrenals may be involved

here. We all know that stress, stresses the adrenals. Maybe when

you're stressed, the adrenals are really taxed therefore more aches.

Perhaps you need to try increasing your dose, just for a little while

to see if it helps the pain. Now I know you don't want to be on a high

dose too long as the adrenals will shut down. But doubling your dose

for a little trial (mabye a week or two) wouldn't hurt. It would give

you an idea as to if this is adrenal related. Are you still on the

NSAIDS?

Blessings,

Debbie K.

I only take the NSAIDS when it gets really bad, not as a daily thing.

I had an operation on my stomach 4 years ago and I'm really not supposed

to take them if I can avoid it.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

RE: FIBROMYALGIA

I really believe that fibro is nothing more than undaignosed hypoT.

One thing you said struck me: " there are some things that aggrivate it,

stress being the big factor " . I wonder if the adrenals may be involved

here. We all know that stress, stresses the adrenals. Maybe when

you're stressed, the adrenals are really taxed therefore more aches.

Perhaps you need to try increasing your dose, just for a little while

to see if it helps the pain. Now I know you don't want to be on a high

dose too long as the adrenals will shut down. But doubling your dose

for a little trial (mabye a week or two) wouldn't hurt. It would give

you an idea as to if this is adrenal related. Are you still on the

NSAIDS?

Blessings,

Debbie K.

I only take the NSAIDS when it gets really bad, not as a daily thing.

I had an operation on my stomach 4 years ago and I'm really not supposed

to take them if I can avoid it.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

The adrenals are, of course, key here, intertwined with hypothyroid,

intertwined again with a very long and chronic course of both, in my

opinion. The longer all these things have been going on, the more severe

the damage, so the longer it takes to " undo " them. And, as in the case of

my tinnitus (no relation, I don't guess, to fibromyalgia, but still as a

comparison of permanency), the damage to the inner ear can be there for so

long that the inner ear parts may have hardened and are permanently damaged.

Of course, I don't want to believe this, but damage CAN be so severe that it

can't be undone. If anything can undo it though, it would be excellent,

long thyroid treatment, coupled with good adrenal support, if needed, and,

of course, a host of the sort of protocol that Tietalbaum and others

suggest. If I've had damage occurring to different parts of my body for 15

yrs, I wouldn't think that it could be completely undone within a yr or two,

though I'm hopeful.

Re: FIBROMYALGIA

>

>

> >

> > You know, I was getting ready to post an article that said Fibro

> was

> > outright a result of hypo. LOL. So with your post and other's

> here,

> > I still flip flop. Perhaps a middle ground could be that Fibro is

> > another one of the " inbalances " caused by hypo...and takes time

> > to " fix " ......... Still on the fence about this.

> >

> > Janie

>

> Janie, Dr. Lowe feels fibromyalgia is a result of hypo, which you

> probably already know. Another Doctor I have come across that

> feels hypo is a significant contributor to fibro and chronic fatigue

> is Teitelbaum. I love his book, because it is the only

> resource I have come across that explains all the odd health

> problems I have had over the past 3 years, and over my lifetime

> also, and he has an amazing array of things to try to get oneself

> healthy. He is very pro-Armour and uses adrenal support also.

>

> I have not been formally diagnosed with fibro or chronic fatigue,

> but by my own diagnosis, that is where I fit. I started having

> muscle pain and stiffness 3+ years ago, and since having

> chiropractic treatment for 1 1/2 years became aware of just how many

> sore pressure points I had all over my body. When I first started on

> Armour, I had a couple of amazing days where all the odd pains in my

> body, including pressure points, disappeared as well as my fatigue.

> These days convinced me that hypo was a major component of my

> problems. Unfortunately I have not maintained these amazing days

> consistently, but the closer I get to my optimal dose, the fewer bad

> days I have. The Armour has allowed me to see the other problems I

> have more clearly (probably because I am thinking more clearly and I

> have energy to deal with things). For me, I have had a chronic

> sinus infection I have ignored for 4 years which can be a major

> conributor to fatigue per Teitelbaum and others, and sleep

> deprivation issues that were originally due to my sleepless

> children, and now seem more related to being perimenopausal.

>

> R.

[Guest guest]

The adrenals are, of course, key here, intertwined with hypothyroid,

intertwined again with a very long and chronic course of both, in my

opinion. The longer all these things have been going on, the more severe

the damage, so the longer it takes to " undo " them. And, as in the case of

my tinnitus (no relation, I don't guess, to fibromyalgia, but still as a

comparison of permanency), the damage to the inner ear can be there for so

long that the inner ear parts may have hardened and are permanently damaged.

Of course, I don't want to believe this, but damage CAN be so severe that it

can't be undone. If anything can undo it though, it would be excellent,

long thyroid treatment, coupled with good adrenal support, if needed, and,

of course, a host of the sort of protocol that Tietalbaum and others

suggest. If I've had damage occurring to different parts of my body for 15

yrs, I wouldn't think that it could be completely undone within a yr or two,

though I'm hopeful.

Re: FIBROMYALGIA

>

>

> >

> > You know, I was getting ready to post an article that said Fibro

> was

> > outright a result of hypo. LOL. So with your post and other's

> here,

> > I still flip flop. Perhaps a middle ground could be that Fibro is

> > another one of the " inbalances " caused by hypo...and takes time

> > to " fix " ......... Still on the fence about this.

> >

> > Janie

>

> Janie, Dr. Lowe feels fibromyalgia is a result of hypo, which you

> probably already know. Another Doctor I have come across that

> feels hypo is a significant contributor to fibro and chronic fatigue

> is Teitelbaum. I love his book, because it is the only

> resource I have come across that explains all the odd health

> problems I have had over the past 3 years, and over my lifetime

> also, and he has an amazing array of things to try to get oneself

> healthy. He is very pro-Armour and uses adrenal support also.

>

> I have not been formally diagnosed with fibro or chronic fatigue,

> but by my own diagnosis, that is where I fit. I started having

> muscle pain and stiffness 3+ years ago, and since having

> chiropractic treatment for 1 1/2 years became aware of just how many

> sore pressure points I had all over my body. When I first started on

> Armour, I had a couple of amazing days where all the odd pains in my

> body, including pressure points, disappeared as well as my fatigue.

> These days convinced me that hypo was a major component of my

> problems. Unfortunately I have not maintained these amazing days

> consistently, but the closer I get to my optimal dose, the fewer bad

> days I have. The Armour has allowed me to see the other problems I

> have more clearly (probably because I am thinking more clearly and I

> have energy to deal with things). For me, I have had a chronic

> sinus infection I have ignored for 4 years which can be a major

> conributor to fatigue per Teitelbaum and others, and sleep

> deprivation issues that were originally due to my sleepless

> children, and now seem more related to being perimenopausal.

>

> R.

[Guest guest]

I 've read alot about some doctors connecting fibromyalgia, chronic

fatigue with adrenal fatigue,

(low adrenals).

in Va.

I really believe that fibro is nothing more than undaignosed hypoT.

One thing you said struck me: " there are some things that aggrivate it,

stress being the big factor " . I wonder if the adrenals may be involved

here. We all know that stress, stresses the adrenals. Maybe when

you're stressed, the adrenals are really taxed therefore more aches.

Perhaps you need to try increasing your dose, just for a little while

to see if it helps the pain. Now I know you don't want to be on a high

dose too long as the adrenals will shut down. But doubling your dose

for a little trial (mabye a week or two) wouldn't hurt. It would give

you an idea as to if this is adrenal related. Are you still on the

NSAIDS?

Blessings,

Debbie K.

[Guest guest]

I 've read alot about some doctors connecting fibromyalgia, chronic

fatigue with adrenal fatigue,

(low adrenals).

in Va.

I really believe that fibro is nothing more than undaignosed hypoT.

One thing you said struck me: " there are some things that aggrivate it,

stress being the big factor " . I wonder if the adrenals may be involved

here. We all know that stress, stresses the adrenals. Maybe when

you're stressed, the adrenals are really taxed therefore more aches.

Perhaps you need to try increasing your dose, just for a little while

to see if it helps the pain. Now I know you don't want to be on a high

dose too long as the adrenals will shut down. But doubling your dose

for a little trial (mabye a week or two) wouldn't hurt. It would give

you an idea as to if this is adrenal related. Are you still on the

NSAIDS?

Blessings,

Debbie K.

[Guest guest]

I 've read alot about some doctors connecting fibromyalgia, chronic

fatigue with adrenal fatigue,

(low adrenals).

in Va.

I really believe that fibro is nothing more than undaignosed hypoT.

One thing you said struck me: " there are some things that aggrivate it,

stress being the big factor " . I wonder if the adrenals may be involved

here. We all know that stress, stresses the adrenals. Maybe when

you're stressed, the adrenals are really taxed therefore more aches.

Perhaps you need to try increasing your dose, just for a little while

to see if it helps the pain. Now I know you don't want to be on a high

dose too long as the adrenals will shut down. But doubling your dose

for a little trial (mabye a week or two) wouldn't hurt. It would give

you an idea as to if this is adrenal related. Are you still on the

NSAIDS?

Blessings,

Debbie K.

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Arline,

The thing with fibromyalgia is not just a craze. It's a very

real problem. And for surgery such as a hysterectomy to cause

trauma to the body to start the fibromyalgia process for some

people is a very real thing. The reason I say some is b/c if

not all are being included in any studies on the subject as they

should be.

I'm glad you found the answer to your problem and that it isn't

fibro.

The members of different fibro groups both on a local level and

online as well as other sources are aware of the research going

on with fibro. You can also find out some of the info on Google

if you want to check in to it further. But as I said PubMed has

info on stuff like this as well and I will try to check the

Medical Library whenever I am able.

Never thought about thyroid problems being related to Celiac but

I think I can understand why. B/c just as thyroid problems

(even without the Celiac) can mess with the whole body so can

Celiac.

This is also one reason why I hope eventually we can get my mom

checked as well b/c it may explain some of the issues with why

she can't lose weight even though she's had drs in the past try

to insist that she's not trying hard enough.

I will let you know what happens to both of us on that subject

as soon as I get a job and I will keep warning others about

Celiac. B/c of what I learned I was also able to help a friend

(can't remember if I told you about her as well or not) who had

a rash going that the dr couldn't explain and said she might be

allergic to processed foods. So I gave her info on Celiac. She

went on the diet and things cleared up.

I need to write her and find out how things are going since

then. It's been over a yeare since I told her about Celiac and

the diet.

And I can believe that going gluten free would be hard to do on

a regular basis.

Kristy

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