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From: Jan <mercurybabies2@...>

Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 6:57:48 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: question

From what I experienced. .yes but only at bedtime.

I found that when we first began chelating I and the kids had a harder time

falling asleep if we were on dmsa. So we used melatonin at bed time on rounds

and for a day or two after. As we got up in numbers of rounds...we didn't need

it anymore.

>

> Jan, Dana or TJ is there an added benefit to adding Melatonin to DMSA during

the AC Protocol rounds in the beginning?? Thanks so much~

>

> stace

>

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Thanks for noting that. I’ve read

what everyone is writing, and I appreciate it, but there doesn’t seem to

be a psych in the phoenix area who specializes in autism. I saw the Dev Ped

who did, and that was a joke. I called to get the neuropsych appt, which is

when I finally got the appt with the child psych. I have to make the most out

of this appt since it is one I have. I think I will hit a neurologist next!!!

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of garnejil

Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:04

PM

Subject: ( ) Re:

Question

I asked the same question when my son needed a

diagnosis. I was referred to a pediatric neurologist.

I have found that while psychs know some about ADD/ADHD, they seem to know very

little about Asperger's.

Just my experience...

[Guest guest]

>

> Jan, Dana or TJ is there an added benefit to adding Melatonin to DMSA during

the AC Protocol rounds in the beginning??

I have never used either melatonin or DMSA, so I can't really comment on this

question.

Dana

[Guest guest]

thank you,

do you have any thought about ALA vs. ®-Lipoic Acid the active form I saw on

the VRP website, when I asked the person at VRP she said the only difference is

®-Lipoic Acid is more bioavailable. Do you know if the more active version is

better for ALA chelation or not recommend for any reason.

Your input is sincerely appreciated,

Stacee

________________________________

From: Jan <mercurybabies2@...>

Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 6:57:48 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: question

From what I experienced. .yes but only at bedtime.

I found that when we first began chelating I and the kids had a harder time

falling asleep if we were on dmsa. So we used melatonin at bed time on rounds

and for a day or two after. As we got up in numbers of rounds...we didn't need

it anymore.

>

> Jan, Dana or TJ is there an added benefit to adding Melatonin to DMSA during

the AC Protocol rounds in the beginning?? Thanks so much~

>

> stace

>

[Guest guest]

Onibasu is your friend.

Andy on R-ALA:

" I have nothing printable to say about the charlatans who try to prey

on people by making up stories about R ALA being better for everything.... "

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/165114.html

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/224731.html

http://onibasu.com/archives/fdc/1525.html

http://onibasu.com/archives/amc/32792.html

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/71182.html

>thank you,

>do you have any thought about ALA vs. ®-Lipoic Acid the active

>form I saw on the VRP website, when I asked the person at VRP she

>said the only difference is ®-Lipoic Acid is more bioavailable. Do

>you know if the more active version is better for ALA chelation or

>not recommend for any reason.

>Your input is sincerely appreciated,

>Stacee

>

>________________________________

>From: Jan <<mailto:mercurybabies2%40>mercurybabies2@...>

><mailto: %40>

>Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 6:57:48 PM

>Subject: [ ] Re: question

>

>>From what I experienced. .yes but only at bedtime.

>I found that when we first began chelating I and the kids had a

>harder time falling asleep if we were on dmsa. So we used melatonin

>at bed time on rounds and for a day or two after. As we got up in

>numbers of rounds...we didn't need it anymore.

>

>

>>

>> Jan, Dana or TJ is there an added benefit to adding Melatonin to

>>DMSA during the AC Protocol rounds in the beginning?? Thanks so

>>much~

>>

>> stace

>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Even though theoretically the R form is meant to be better there are a

number of reasons to stick to the RS form.

All of the data from studies we are relying on was based on the RS

form. So we don't actually have a study to refer to to show us if we

get the same results using the R form.

Also R ala is meant to be a lot more expensive than RS ala.

Unfortunately some of the shoddy suppliers along the chain will take an

RS product and relabel it as R ala, because the RS product is 50% R

ala. So they might take a 50mg RS ala and sell it as a 25mg R ala. So

you think you are giving 25mg a dose, when in fact you are giving 50.

I know of one family that tried using the R-ALA form, again despite my

warning. Some well meaning health professional assured them the R form

was much better. The rounds did not go very well for them so they stopped.

So I think its just another variable that could cause trouble that you

don't need.

Stacee wrote:

>

> thank you,

> do you have any thought about ALA vs. ®-Lipoic Acid the active form

> I saw on the VRP website, when I asked the person at VRP she said the

> only difference is ®-Lipoic Acid is more bioavailable. Do you know

> if the more active version is better for ALA chelation or not

> recommend for any reason.

> Your input is sincerely appreciated,

> Stacee

>

> ________________________________

> From: Jan <mercurybabies2@... <mailto:mercurybabies2%40>>

>

> <mailto: %40>

> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 6:57:48 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: question

>

> >From what I experienced. .yes but only at bedtime.

> I found that when we first began chelating I and the kids had a harder

> time falling asleep if we were on dmsa. So we used melatonin at bed

> time on rounds and for a day or two after. As we got up in numbers of

> rounds...we didn't need it anymore.

>

>

> >

> > Jan, Dana or TJ is there an added benefit to adding Melatonin to

> DMSA during the AC Protocol rounds in the beginning?? Thanks so much~

> >

> > stace

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

What form is the Kirkman's 25mg ALA?

>

> thank you,

> do you have any thought about ALA vs. ®-Lipoic Acid the active form

> I saw on the VRP website, when I asked the person at VRP she said the

> only difference is ®-Lipoic Acid is more bioavailable. Do you know

> if the more active version is better for ALA chelation or not

> recommend for any reason.

> Your input is sincerely appreciated,

> Stacee

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Jan <mercurybabies2 <mailto:mercurybabi es2%40. com>>

>

> <mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com>

> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 6:57:48 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: question

>

> >From what I experienced. .yes but only at bedtime.

> I found that when we first began chelating I and the kids had a harder

> time falling asleep if we were on dmsa. So we used melatonin at bed

> time on rounds and for a day or two after. As we got up in numbers of

> rounds...we didn't need it anymore.

>

>

> >

> > Jan, Dana or TJ is there an added benefit to adding Melatonin to

> DMSA during the AC Protocol rounds in the beginning?? Thanks so much~

> >

> > stace

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kirkmans is RS-ALA.

Lots of people are getting good results using Kirkmans ALA.

K S wrote:

>

> What form is the Kirkman's 25mg ALA?

>

>

> >

> > thank you,

> > do you have any thought about ALA vs. ®-Lipoic Acid the active form

> > I saw on the VRP website, when I asked the person at VRP she said the

> > only difference is ®-Lipoic Acid is more bioavailable. Do you know

> > if the more active version is better for ALA chelation or not

> > recommend for any reason.

> > Your input is sincerely appreciated,

> > Stacee

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Jan <mercurybabies2 <mailto:mercurybabi

> es2%40. com>>

> >

> > <mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com>

> > Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 6:57:48 PM

> > Subject: [ ] Re: question

> >

> > >From what I experienced. .yes but only at bedtime.

> > I found that when we first began chelating I and the kids had a harder

> > time falling asleep if we were on dmsa. So we used melatonin at bed

> > time on rounds and for a day or two after. As we got up in numbers of

> > rounds...we didn't need it anymore.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Jan, Dana or TJ is there an added benefit to adding Melatonin to

> > DMSA during the AC Protocol rounds in the beginning?? Thanks so much~

> > >

> > > stace

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

thanks

> >

> > thank you,

> > do you have any thought about ALA vs. ®-Lipoic Acid the active form

> > I saw on the VRP website, when I asked the person at VRP she said the

> > only difference is ®-Lipoic Acid is more bioavailable. Do you know

> > if the more active version is better for ALA chelation or not

> > recommend for any reason.

> > Your input is sincerely appreciated,

> > Stacee

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Jan <mercurybabies2 <mailto:mercurybabi

> es2%40. com>>

> >

> > <mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com>

> > Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 6:57:48 PM

> > Subject: [ ] Re: question

> >

> > >From what I experienced. .yes but only at bedtime.

> > I found that when we first began chelating I and the kids had a harder

> > time falling asleep if we were on dmsa. So we used melatonin at bed

> > time on rounds and for a day or two after. As we got up in numbers of

> > rounds...we didn't need it anymore.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Jan, Dana or TJ is there an added benefit to adding Melatonin to

> > DMSA during the AC Protocol rounds in the beginning?? Thanks so much~

> > >

> > > stace

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

--

I personally would stick with the R-S form, it does it's job, it's cheaper, it's

more established and therefore more dependable and probably less riskier.

Kenny

- In , Stacee <staceed@...> wrote:

>

> thank you,

> do you have any thought about ALA vs. ®-Lipoic Acid the active form I saw on

the VRP website, when I asked the person at VRP she said the only difference is

®-Lipoic Acid is more bioavailable. Do you know if the more active version is

better for ALA chelation or not recommend for any reason.

> Your input is sincerely appreciated,

> Stacee

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Jan <mercurybabies2@...>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 6:57:48 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: question

>

>

> From what I experienced. .yes but only at bedtime.

> I found that when we first began chelating I and the kids had a harder time

falling asleep if we were on dmsa. So we used melatonin at bed time on rounds

and for a day or two after. As we got up in numbers of rounds...we didn't need

it anymore.

>

>

> >

> > Jan, Dana or TJ is there an added benefit to adding Melatonin to DMSA during

the AC Protocol rounds in the beginning?? Thanks so much~

> >

> > stace

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

thanks

stace

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From: Ross <mrossgrp@...>

Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 2:28:11 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: question

Onibasu is your friend.

Andy on R-ALA:

" I have nothing printable to say about the charlatans who try to prey

on people by making up stories about R ALA being better for everything.. .. "

http://onibasu. com/archives/ am/165114. html

http://onibasu. com/archives/ am/224731. html

http://onibasu. com/archives/ fdc/1525. html

http://onibasu. com/archives/ amc/32792. html

http://onibasu. com/archives/ am/71182. html

>thank you,

>do you have any thought about ALA vs. ®-Lipoic Acid the active

>form I saw on the VRP website, when I asked the person at VRP she

>said the only difference is ®-Lipoic Acid is more bioavailable. Do

>you know if the more active version is better for ALA chelation or

>not recommend for any reason.

>Your input is sincerely appreciated,

>Stacee

>

>___________ _________ _________ ___

>From: Jan <<mailto:mercurybab ies2%40. com>mercurybabies2>

><mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com>

>Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 6:57:48 PM

>Subject: [ ] Re: question

>

>>From what I experienced. .yes but only at bedtime.

>I found that when we first began chelating I and the kids had a

>harder time falling asleep if we were on dmsa. So we used melatonin

>at bed time on rounds and for a day or two after. As we got up in

>numbers of rounds...we didn't need it anymore.

>

>

>>

>> Jan, Dana or TJ is there an added benefit to adding Melatonin to

>>DMSA during the AC Protocol rounds in the beginning?? Thanks so

>>much~

>>

>> stace

>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Dad took his LDN at 1.00am this morning. Can he take it at 6.00pm tonight or

does he have to wait a night. I know it is not protocol. I hope we get back to

protocol but dad hasn't has a full night sleep since he started. I also think

that starting at 1.5mls has not helped the situation. People are better off

starting at 4.5 mls and then dealing with the effects.

>

> Sky

>=========

Sky,

6pm is way too early. If you are observing Daylight Saving Time in USA he

should take LDN no earlier than 10pm to take advantage of the largest endorphin

production of the day between 2am and 4am. If he takes it at 6pm the LDN will

already be out of his system missing that big peak endorphin boost. If you are

in the USA look into Alteril, a natural supplement sleep aid.

Alteril

http://www.anxiety-and-depression-solutions.com/marketplace/alteril.php

[Guest guest]

,After 's last treatment, she bottomed out and I thought her counts would never come back. It took weeks, but eventually they all came back to normal range and stayed there.I would call just to give you peace of mind. Since this has been this way for 3 years, I can't imagine this is related to the leukemia. If it were, they would be calling you back in. How far from normal are his values? From: Bluyz1966@... <Bluyz1966@...>Subject: [ ] Question Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 1:06 PM

I just got 's CBC results from his recent visit to CMH for a check up.

Do any of you remember how long it took for the CBC counts to return to "normal". They say his CBC is stable, but, all his numbers are "abnormal". They have been since he finished chemo. His platelets are the only thing that is normal. It has been 3 years since he completed chemo. I thought I would pose this question here before I call his Doctor and sound like a worried Mom.

Thanks!

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[Guest guest]

Welcome-

If they do the scan for the band on June 3rd, you should receive the band in

about 7-10 days. Four months old is a great time to band. The first four months,

the skull is super super soft (then gradually starts to harden from there), and

I've been told the shape will probably be at it's worst by 4 months (meaning it

most likely won't get any worse from there), which seemed to be the case for my

son. Your son's skull is not too hard to correct, it's the rate of growth that

is on your side at his age. Cranial Tech is not the only band company, but they

are one of the most reputable, as they only do banding (whereas other orthotists

sometimes handle other orthotic devices and might not see as many plagio

patients), and all their therapists are equally well trained. Which office would

you be going to? We went to CT-Charlotte and had a great experience. Also, I

think it's fantastic that your ped is recommending the band because MOST do not,

and a lot of us have a really hard time even getting the script for it. So it

sounds like you're on the right path! Good luck!

Jake-2.5 (DOCBand Grad 9/08)

Jordan-5

>

> Hi there,

>

> My 4 month old son developed a flat spot on his left side when he was about 2

months. Yesterday, during his check up, his pediatrician suggested that his head

gets evaluated and said that he'll probably need a helmet (even though not too

long ago he said that it would go away by itself). I made an appointment with

Cranial Technologies for June 3rd. I just wanted to ask how long it usually

takes since you have your first visit until the treatment starts. I'm really

anxious to get all this process started ASAP, since from other postings I get

that it's important to get help sooner than later.

>

> I have noticed that apparently my son's flat spot has not gotten worse for the

last month or so... I was wondering if this could mean that his cranium is

getting harder and it will be more difficult to take it back to normal...

>

> Finally, is Cranial Technologies the only company that specializes in treating

this condition?

>

> Thanks in advance for your help!!

>

> Paloma

>

[Guest guest]

My daughters helmet took two weeks to get from the date of scan. She was eight months old when she stared wearing it so your son has plenty of time. There was a big improvement in just one week so I think you will be happy with the results. Hanger also makes helmets. I chose to to go with cranial technologies as well since that is the only thing they specialize in. It has been a positive experience so far. Also, I don't know if you are going to try to go through insurance by we got a $300 discount for paying for the helmet up front. We will be reinbursed from our insurance company for the amount they allow.

Good Luck!!

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Plagiocephaly From: nwilkens2275@...Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 14:56:09 +0000Subject: Re: Question

Welcome-If they do the scan for the band on June 3rd, you should receive the band in about 7-10 days. Four months old is a great time to band. The first four months, the skull is super super soft (then gradually starts to harden from there), and I've been told the shape will probably be at it's worst by 4 months (meaning it most likely won't get any worse from there), which seemed to be the case for my son. Your son's skull is not too hard to correct, it's the rate of growth that is on your side at his age. Cranial Tech is not the only band company, but they are one of the most reputable, as they only do banding (whereas other orthotists sometimes handle other orthotic devices and might not see as many plagio patients), and all their therapists are equally well trained. Which office would you be going to? We went to CT-Charlotte and had a great experience. Also, I think it's fantastic that your ped is recommending the band because MOST do not, and a lot of us have a really hard time even getting the script for it. So it sounds like you're on the right path! Good luck!Jake-2.5 (DOCBand Grad 9/08)Jordan-5>> Hi there,> > My 4 month old son developed a flat spot on his left side when he was about 2 months. Yesterday, during his check up, his pediatrician suggested that his head gets evaluated and said that he'll probably need a helmet (even though not too long ago he said that it would go away by itself). I made an appointment with Cranial Technologies for June 3rd. I just wanted to ask how long it usually takes since you have your first visit until the treatment starts. I'm really anxious to get all this process started ASAP, since from other postings I get that it's important to get help sooner than later.> > I have noticed that apparently my son's flat spot has not gotten worse for the last month or so... I was wondering if this could mean that his cranium is getting harder and it will be more difficult to take it back to normal... > > Finally, is Cranial Technologies the only company that specializes in treating this condition? > > Thanks in advance for your help!!> > Paloma>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

if your first appointment is a consultation, you'll have to follow up with a

scan appointment to get the band. You'll need a prescription for that (do you

have one now)? Also you may want to see what your insurance will cover.

Insurance varies widely, ranging from 100% to 0%, and the band is over $3000.

At 4 mo you're in good shape, so no need to go crazy rushing things. If possible

try repositioning to keep him off the flat spot, and have him rest on the

prominent side - this will keep it from getting worse, and may even help correct

it. If your baby has torticollis (tight neck muscles) repositioning can be

difficult, and stretches may be needed to loosen up the neck. Head tilting ot

one side or always looking to one side are indications of tort - this is a big

contributor to plagio.

welcome to the group and keep us posted on your progress.

-christine

sydney, 3 yrs, starband grad

>

> Hi there,

>

> My 4 month old son developed a flat spot on his left side when he was about 2

months. Yesterday, during his check up, his pediatrician suggested that his head

gets evaluated and said that he'll probably need a helmet (even though not too

long ago he said that it would go away by itself). I made an appointment with

Cranial Technologies for June 3rd. I just wanted to ask how long it usually

takes since you have your first visit until the treatment starts. I'm really

anxious to get all this process started ASAP, since from other postings I get

that it's important to get help sooner than later.

>

> I have noticed that apparently my son's flat spot has not gotten worse for the

last month or so... I was wondering if this could mean that his cranium is

getting harder and it will be more difficult to take it back to normal...

>

> Finally, is Cranial Technologies the only company that specializes in treating

this condition?

>

> Thanks in advance for your help!!

>

> Paloma

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much to all of you for your answers, this really helps... My son's

appointment is at the Paramus NJ office of Cranial Technologies, and we do have

a prescription from our pediatrician, so hopefully everything will go

smoothly... I'll defenitely keep you guys posted on how things go... Thank you

SO much!

Paloma

> >

> > Hi there,

> >

> > My 4 month old son developed a flat spot on his left side when he was about

2 months. Yesterday, during his check up, his pediatrician suggested that his

head gets evaluated and said that he'll probably need a helmet (even though not

too long ago he said that it would go away by itself). I made an appointment

with Cranial Technologies for June 3rd. I just wanted to ask how long it usually

takes since you have your first visit until the treatment starts. I'm really

anxious to get all this process started ASAP, since from other postings I get

that it's important to get help sooner than later.

> >

> > I have noticed that apparently my son's flat spot has not gotten worse for

the last month or so... I was wondering if this could mean that his cranium is

getting harder and it will be more difficult to take it back to normal...

> >

> > Finally, is Cranial Technologies the only company that specializes in

treating this condition?

> >

> > Thanks in advance for your help!!

> >

> > Paloma

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Paloma,

You can also go to Cranial Remolding in town. They use the Starband.

That is who I'm using for my daughter. I called on Friday and had an appt. on

Monday morning and now we are waiting for the helmet. They were very nice there

and they use a scanner. I chose them because it is only a 20 minute drive from

my home and Paramus would be 45 minutes plus. Let me know if you want the phone

number.

Good Luck,

Kara

> > >

> > > Hi there,

> > >

> > > My 4 month old son developed a flat spot on his left side when he was

about 2 months. Yesterday, during his check up, his pediatrician suggested that

his head gets evaluated and said that he'll probably need a helmet (even though

not too long ago he said that it would go away by itself). I made an appointment

with Cranial Technologies for June 3rd. I just wanted to ask how long it usually

takes since you have your first visit until the treatment starts. I'm really

anxious to get all this process started ASAP, since from other postings I get

that it's important to get help sooner than later.

> > >

> > > I have noticed that apparently my son's flat spot has not gotten worse for

the last month or so... I was wondering if this could mean that his cranium is

getting harder and it will be more difficult to take it back to normal...

> > >

> > > Finally, is Cranial Technologies the only company that specializes in

treating this condition?

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance for your help!!

> > >

> > > Paloma

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

are you ready to suffer because you are afraid what might happen.you can use

braclet ,where you write that you use ldn.by the morning the the ldn is out by

the most of the people

>

> I've been reading messages on the list for a while

> now. LDN sounds so wonderful. I mean I realize

> it may not work for everyone but it does seem to

> do wonders for some people and I wonder if I could

> be one of those people.

>

> One thing has me holding back and I thought to tell

> you about it and see what kind of feedback I got.

> That is, for example, what if a person is in an

> accident or some other event and they cannot tell

> anyone they are on LDN. Or, even if they say they

> are taking LDN; I am not aware of any pain killer

> that is not opiate based which is sufficient to

> address serious pain in injury and illness.

>

> Some years ago before I ever head of use of LDN in

> this way I knew of someone who was given it in error

> and who was using opiates, he had to be hospitalized

> and it was awful.

>

> So, obviously, that is what I am thinking. I mean

> to be in a position of being given LDN because

> medical professionals don't know you are on it, or

> not having anything else that will kill pain if

> needed is scary.

>

> Comments?

>

[Guest guest]

Agree 100%!! Take it when you go to bed and it is out of your system by

morning. Of course if you plan on hurting yourself falling out of bed

you could be in trouble, though I assume then even if you somehow

managed to knock yourself unconscious somebody else would be able to

inform the medicos anyway! (Else you'd still be lying there!)

As zahavi suggested, I have a medical bracelet around my neck that has

never been off since I got it years ago and the accompanying card in my

wallet (always with me except in the shower and bed where it is right

nearby) details my use of LDN and the fact that it MAY (depending on

time) impact the effectiveness of opiate based painkillers.

I'm certainly not going to willingly let my condition progress on the

extremely remote possibility I may need serious painkillers in the hours

after I've gone to bed!

zahavi wrote:

> are you ready to suffer because you are afraid what might happen.you can use

braclet ,where you write that you use ldn.by the morning the the ldn is out by

the most of the people

>

[Guest guest]

Generally you are asleep in bed when LDN does its blocking, during the pre-dawn

hours. You could wear a silicone medical bracelet listing Low Dose Naltrexone

for_______(list illness in blank) and give address for the Low Dose Naltrexone

Wikipedia website page that is easiest to read in an emergency situation instead

of the big official LDN site.

============

>

> I've been reading messages on the list for a while

> now. LDN sounds so wonderful. I mean I realize

> it may not work for everyone but it does seem to

> do wonders for some people and I wonder if I could

> be one of those people.

>

> One thing has me holding back and I thought to tell

> you about it and see what kind of feedback I got.

> That is, for example, what if a person is in an

> accident or some other event and they cannot tell

> anyone they are on LDN. Or, even if they say they

> are taking LDN; I am not aware of any pain killer

> that is not opiate based which is sufficient to

> address serious pain in injury and illness.

>

> Some years ago before I ever head of use of LDN in

> this way I knew of someone who was given it in error

> and who was using opiates, he had to be hospitalized

> and it was awful.

>

> So, obviously, that is what I am thinking. I mean

> to be in a position of being given LDN because

> medical professionals don't know you are on it, or

> not having anything else that will kill pain if

> needed is scary.

>

> Comments?

>

[Guest guest]

I don't see how this could possibly happen. Given LDN by accident?? How?-- Warmest Regards,Robin LittleSome years ago before I ever head of use of LDN in

this way I knew of someone who was given it in error

and who was using opiates, he had to be hospitalized

and it was awful.

[Guest guest]

I was wondering the same thing! Sounds very suss to me!! Most people

couldn't even get LDN in hospital, let alone be given it accidentally!

If anything I suggest they were given full dose naltrexone, not LDN and

that is a totally different scenario.

Robin Little wrote:

> I don't see how this could possibly happen. Given LDN by accident?? How?

>

> --

> Warmest Regards,

> Robin Little

>

> Some years ago before I ever head of use of LDN in

> this way I knew of someone who was given it in error

> and who was using opiates, he had to be hospitalized

> and it was awful.

>

[Guest guest]

You will be able to find EFAs without the A and D (that would be in cod liver

oil naturally but not in fish oil) but I'll bet all EFAs contain added Vitamin E

since it protects the oil from oxidation/spoilage.

My Nordic Naturals contains no A or D but has 30 IU of E added. All of my

varieties (have several!) contain added E.

Not a silly question. You could look in to flax seed or another vegetable

source. Much more will be needed to get the same amount of EPA/DHA as the fish

source but maybe they don't add the E?

Pam

>

> probably a silly question but is there an essential fatty acid that has no

vitaminins in it? like the A, D and E...

>

> I am wanting to try everything seperately because cod liver oil, flaxseed oil

and shark oil all make her really focused, but she gets impulsive with it.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> probably a silly question but is there an essential fatty acid that has no

vitaminins in it? like the A, D and E...

>

> I am wanting to try everything seperately because cod liver oil, flaxseed oil

and shark oil all make her really focused, but she gets impulsive with it.

>

Flax oil, some fish oils, canola oil you can buy in the store. Walnut oil (NOT

spectrum brand) or walnuts. I'd suggest some relatively good, packaged under

nitrogen brand like Spectrum.

Andy

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