Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Yes, in our case both mercury and arsenic seem to be problems for the thyroid. Michele > Has anyone looked into the connection of hypothyroid and heavy metals? > > I am wondering since in beginning in November when I started with my own > amalgam removal (proper protocol), my thyroid has seemed to crash. > Do Mercury and/or other metals attach to the thyroid? > > My son also seems to be hypothyroid. I am going to have it checked. He is > someone who was never vaccinated, and has no amalgams, but is full of metals > anyway. I know that fluoride messes up the thyroid, but he hasn't even had > that. > > Just brainstorming, and looking for information. > > Thanks, > nne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 nne, In Andy's book, page 32 figure 4, it shows the different areas that mercury can impact. Clearly, it shows that the thyroid can be impacted both by lowering the TSH output from the pituitary as well as TSH input into the thyroid. So, a double whammy... At 10:57 PM 17/05/2004, you wrote: >Has anyone looked into the connection of hypothyroid and heavy metals? > >I am wondering since in beginning in November when I started with my own >amalgam removal (proper protocol), my thyroid has seemed to crash. >Do Mercury and/or other metals attach to the thyroid? > >My son also seems to be hypothyroid. I am going to have it checked. He is >someone who was never vaccinated, and has no amalgams, but is full of metals >anyway. I know that fluoride messes up the thyroid, but he hasn't even had >that. > >Just brainstorming, and looking for information. > >Thanks, >nne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 In a message dated 5/17/2004 9:02:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, marianne@... writes: > I am wondering since in beginning in November when I started with my own > amalgam removal (proper protocol), my thyroid has seemed to crash. > This happened to me too. I just started Levoxyl today. n's numbers were fine though. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 In a message dated 12/15/2007 8:15:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, sunbriar@... writes: Im wondering if theres a connection to RA and also any connection or concerns with the minocin? Both are so called auto immune diseases, as is diabetes, lupus, and on an on. Go to an endocrinologist and get the blood test. They often have in house labs or ise a lab in Virginia, which is expensive but very thorough and accurate. Hair loss, weight gain, deteriorating finger nails, dry skin, and extreme fatigue all the time, not just sometimes like RA. It's a nightmare. I suffered 15 years before a doctor realized what the problem was. I had no idea, never heard of the problem and of course it was before the internet. ALso check out Shomon's website (google her I don't remember the URL), she's become an expert and patient advocate for thyroid patients. BTW, the numbers for a TSH have been dramatically lowered. At one time the upper limit ws 12, now it's only 3. Not all labs adhere to this though. **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Is there any connection between thyroid and RA? Im just wondering. Ive thought I had thyroid problems for YEARS but the Drs dont agree. Ive had 2 tests where it was high and others where it was Ok so they wont do anything about it. I just got another " high " test so now Im getting more tests (been there done that) then those tests will be Ok and they wont do anything about it (my hairs " shedding " and I have no fingernails... anyway. Im wondering if theres a connection to RA and also any connection or concerns with the minocin? Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 At 04:52 AM 12/15/2007, Kathy wrote: Is there any connection between thyroid and RA? I'm just wondering. I've thought I had thyroid problems for YEARS but the Drs don't agree. I've had 2 tests where it was high and others where it was Ok so they wont do anything about it. I just got another " high " test so now I'm getting more tests (been there done that) then those tests will be Ok and they wont do anything about it (my hairs " shedding " and I have no fingernails... anyway. I'm wondering if theres a connection to RA and also any connection or concerns with the minocin? Kathy Kathy and Group, If you think that Minocin is totally benign, please read on. The fact sheet that accompanies bottles of Minocin shipped by Lederle Pharmaceutical Division includes a fact sheet with these warnings: " CARCINOGENESIS, MUTAGENESIS Dietary administration of minocycline in long term tumorigenicity studies in rats resulted in evidence of thyroid tumor production. Minocycline has also been found to produce thyroid hyperplasia [enlargement] in rats and dogs. In addition, there has been evidence of oncogenic activity in rats in studies with a related antibiotic, oxytetracycline (ie., adrenal and pituitary tumors). Likewise, although mutagenicity studies of minocycline have not been conducted, positive results in in vitro mammalian cell assays (ie, mouse lymphoma and Chinese hamster lung cells) have been reported for related antibiotics (tetracycline hydrochloride and oxytetracycline). ANIMAL PHARMACOLOGY AND TOXICOLOGY MINOCIN minocycline HCl has been observed to cause a dark discoloration of the thyroid in experimental animals (rats, minipigs, dogs, and monkeys). In the rat, chronic treatment with minocycline hydrochloride has resulted in goiter accompanied by elevated radioactive iodine uptake and evidence of thyroid tumor production. Minocycline hydrochloride has also been found to produce thyroid hyperplasia in rats and dogs. " It turns out that 20% of single thyroid nodules and 10% of multiple thyroid modules are malignant. 70% of thyroid cancers are capillary carcinomas, one of the more treatable forms of cancer. MY STORY I was diagnosed with RA in 1999 at age 58. In 2000, I became aware of the AP, joined this group, and started treatment with 100 mg of Minocin per day. I gradually got better until June 2004, when I was down to 100 mg of Minocin every other day and my formerly acute RA pain was mostly a memory. In June 2004, I started to get worse again. But that's another email. In 2001, as part of my routine annual physical, my GP felt a node on my thyroid (lower front of the neck). He recommended an ultrasound, which showed a single 1 cm diameter nodule. I was sent to an endocrinologist, who stated that we should simply watch the nodule with annual ultrasounds, since the 1 cm size is too small for a biopsy (wrong!). The later annual ultrasounds kept showing the same 1 cm nodule. I changed HMO's. In early May 2005, my new endocrinologist recommended an ultrasonically-guided needle biopsy of the nodule. In May 2005, I was shocked to that the nodule was a capillary carcinoma. The nodule and thyroid were surgically removed that same month. The removed thyroid was also found to have a carcinoma spot. In June 2005, I underwent radioactive iodine treatment to hopefully kill off any stray cancerous thyroid cells elsewhere in my body. The Minocin may or may not have been the cause of the cancer, but it may have been a contributing factor. LESSONS LEARNED If you are on the AP, have your thyroid checked annually with an ultrasound if you can, just as women above a certain age are to get an annual mammogram. If a nodule is detected, have it biopsied immediately. Better yet, have it surgically removed. Do not have them watch it for 4 years as in my case. A lady in our church was just detected with a thyroid nodule. Her doctors had the nodule removed with no biopsy, but the nodule was then found by the pathology lab to be cancerous. She too will now have her thyroid removed and undergo radioactive iodine treatment. NEXT STEPS I am having seconds thoughts about the AP. What organs other than the thyroid are at risk? Sincerely, Harald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Hi Kathy, I've never had 10 fingernails at one time. They peeled and break easily. I started taking 2500 mgms of biotin a day and in about 6 weeks I have nails you would love. My hair has become longer and thicker also. I never took that much biotin usually only what was in a vitamin. My daughter has done it finally and now reports longer hair and nails getting thicker. You can take up to 5000 mgms a day. Cooky _____ From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of Harald Weiss, Technical Marketing Group Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:20 PM rheumatic Subject: Re: rheumatic thyroid? At 04:52 AM 12/15/2007, Kathy wrote: Is there any connection between thyroid and RA? I'm just wondering. I've thought I had thyroid problems for YEARS but the Drs don't agree. I've had 2 tests where it was high and others where it was Ok so they wont do anything about it. I just got another " high " test so now I'm getting more tests (been there done that) then those tests will be Ok and they wont do anything about it (my hairs " shedding " and I have no fingernails... anyway. I'm wondering if theres a connection to RA and also any connection or concerns with the minocin? Kathy Kathy and Group, <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=93429/grpspId=1705061610/msgId=4 6366/stime=1197739244/nc1=4617369/nc2=5008809/nc3=4718984> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 When I was first diagnosed with Lyme I was very hypothyroid and was on high doses of Armour. After 11 months of Lyme treatment my thyroid was and still is functioning normally and I no longer have to take any thyroid meds. Most of the symptoms you mentioned can be related to thyroid issues. Make sure your dr is testing your T3 Free and T4 Free not just TSH. ________________________________ From: Aline Huey <alinehuey@...> Sent: Fri, April 8, 2011 10:27:35 AM Subject: [ ] Thyroid? Throwing this out to you for feedback. I have been struggling with depression,antidepressant is not helping much, hair has been falling out to the point I had it cut short, eyes have trouble focusing at times, body temp is low all the time, frequently 95.5 rarely up to 97 degrees. Bloodwork for THS came out in the normal range at 2.9. I have been using a floride toothpaste prescription. I did some reading on thyroid and decided to quit the floride for now to see if that helps. Ordered some suppliments, thyroid help and kelp. Has anyone taken Ashwagandha? I am already taking quite a few suppliments with my two antibiotics and probiotics. What are thoughts on thyroid problems with Lymes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 That is what I was just put on and yes my tests came out normal Sara <srobinson@...> wrote: >Upwards of ninety percent of all Lyme patients have thyroid problems. Unfortunately, in most cases, it's " silent thyroid, " which doesn't show up on the usual panels. > >Your TSH number is actually much too high. A lot of thyroid-literate docs think it should be down around 1. > >Get the book " Thyroid Power " by Dr. Shames. Check out Shomon's thyroid pages at About.com. And also go to www.stopthethyroidmadness.com as well. > >A lot of LLMDs are also thyroid-literate, so that's the place to start. The above pages also have lists of doctors who can help you with this. > >The drug of choice for this is not Synthroid (which is what most docs will give you, and is pure synthetic T4). Silent thyroid is a T3-->T4 conversion problem, and is best treated with natural thyroid like Armour, which is a combination of both forms. > >On Apr 8, 2011, at 7:27 35AM, Aline Huey wrote: > >> Throwing this out to you for feedback. >> I have been struggling with depression,antidepressant is not helping much, hair has been falling out to the point I had it cut short, eyes have trouble focusing at times, body temp is low all the time, frequently 95.5 rarely up to 97 degrees. Bloodwork for THS came out in the normal range at 2.9. I have been using a floride toothpaste prescription. >> I did some reading on thyroid and decided to quit the floride for now to see if that helps. Ordered some suppliments, thyroid help and kelp. Has anyone taken Ashwagandha? >> I am already taking quite a few suppliments with my two antibiotics and probiotics. >> What are thoughts on thyroid problems with Lymes? >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Lyme Disease News continually updated from thousands of sources around the >> net: http://www.topix.net/health/lyme-disease >> >> MedWorm: The latest items on: Lyme Disease >> http://tinyurl.com/23dgy8 >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Free T3, Free T4 AND thyroid antibodies! I have Hashimoto's and my TSH is ALWAYS normal. My antibodies though...through the roof. Also, some people do better with their numbers outside of 'normal range' which is something to keep in mind as well. I would recommend the site http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ to find out ALL about thyroid disorders and what to ask your Dr. And stay away from endocrinologists. They do not understand Lyme + Thyroid issues. Like everything else, our bodies need things different than non-lyme people... ~ > > > >> Throwing this out to you for feedback. > >> I have been struggling with depression,antidepressant is not helping much, hair has been falling out to the point I had it cut short, eyes have trouble focusing at times, body temp is low all the time, frequently 95.5 rarely up to 97 degrees. Bloodwork for THS came out in the normal range at 2.9. I have been using a floride toothpaste prescription. > >> I did some reading on thyroid and decided to quit the floride for now to see if that helps. Ordered some suppliments, thyroid help and kelp. Has anyone taken Ashwagandha? > >> I am already taking quite a few suppliments with my two antibiotics and probiotics. > >> What are thoughts on thyroid problems with Lymes? > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------ > >> > >> Lyme Disease News continually updated from thousands of sources around the > >> net: http://www.topix.net/health/lyme-disease > >> > >> MedWorm: The latest items on: Lyme Disease > >> http://tinyurl.com/23dgy8 > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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