Re: High cortisol at night

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In a message dated 9/11/2004 2:43:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> I also started taking a bit of thyroid before bed for the restless

> uncomfortable body thing, you know?

oh wow - you described it...I tried to tell my husband what it felt like...it

really is a weird thing...restless uncomfortable body thing...yea....

cindi

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In a message dated 9/11/2004 2:43:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> I also started taking a bit of thyroid before bed for the restless

> uncomfortable body thing, you know?

oh wow - you described it...I tried to tell my husband what it felt like...it

really is a weird thing...restless uncomfortable body thing...yea....

cindi

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Here is my experience: ( sorry for the running at the mouth, but it's

complicated. But maybe someone can get something out of it.)

Before starting hc I had trouble falling asleep, often woke around 3-4 AM and

could not get back to sleep for hours, also woke after 8 hours of " sleep "

feeling in a total fatigued fog.

Initially I took 5 mg hc every four hours from the time of waking to a total of

20 mg per day. Initially this helped everything. BUT, all three returned at

different times. I started taking an extra 2.5 mg before bed. This helped to

fall asleep. For a while it helped the 3-4 AM stuff which then turned into a 5-6

AM thing, regardless, so I started taking another 2.5 mg then. This would cause

me to go right back to sleep and feel very refreshed upon waking. Better than

ever. So I was at a total of 25 mg a day.

But during that time I also started taking a bit of thyroid before bed for the

restless uncomfortable body thing, you know? That caused me to sleep like a log

better than anything.

I weaned off the nighttime hc and just take a bit of T3 before bed. I fall

asleep readily and sleep very soundly. Often I do not wake up even once during

the night. It's sort of an unbelievable feeling to wake up and see daylight

already there! I feel refreshed when I wake. ( good sleep )

Now I am taking 7.5 mg hc first thing in the morning instead of 5 mg to

simulate normal cycles better.

I want to come down from the 22.5 total for the day eventually, but I want to

cut the 2.5 mg off the PM dose to replicate natural levels better.

I have no idea when I will be able to decrease beyond that. There have been a

few days where I have needed to go back up to 25 mg with feeling weakness or the

" chest-thing " .

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

High cortisol at night

>So I am confused....

> Do you support the adrenals when the cortisol is high or low?

Both. If cortisol is too high at night, there are some folks who will

take cortisone in the morning to retrain the body to NOT to produce

so much at night. Don't know if it works---maybe someone here can

report if it worked for them.

Jaine

[Guest guest]

Here is my experience: ( sorry for the running at the mouth, but it's

complicated. But maybe someone can get something out of it.)

Before starting hc I had trouble falling asleep, often woke around 3-4 AM and

could not get back to sleep for hours, also woke after 8 hours of " sleep "

feeling in a total fatigued fog.

Initially I took 5 mg hc every four hours from the time of waking to a total of

20 mg per day. Initially this helped everything. BUT, all three returned at

different times. I started taking an extra 2.5 mg before bed. This helped to

fall asleep. For a while it helped the 3-4 AM stuff which then turned into a 5-6

AM thing, regardless, so I started taking another 2.5 mg then. This would cause

me to go right back to sleep and feel very refreshed upon waking. Better than

ever. So I was at a total of 25 mg a day.

But during that time I also started taking a bit of thyroid before bed for the

restless uncomfortable body thing, you know? That caused me to sleep like a log

better than anything.

I weaned off the nighttime hc and just take a bit of T3 before bed. I fall

asleep readily and sleep very soundly. Often I do not wake up even once during

the night. It's sort of an unbelievable feeling to wake up and see daylight

already there! I feel refreshed when I wake. ( good sleep )

Now I am taking 7.5 mg hc first thing in the morning instead of 5 mg to

simulate normal cycles better.

I want to come down from the 22.5 total for the day eventually, but I want to

cut the 2.5 mg off the PM dose to replicate natural levels better.

I have no idea when I will be able to decrease beyond that. There have been a

few days where I have needed to go back up to 25 mg with feeling weakness or the

" chest-thing " .

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

High cortisol at night

>So I am confused....

> Do you support the adrenals when the cortisol is high or low?

Both. If cortisol is too high at night, there are some folks who will

take cortisone in the morning to retrain the body to NOT to produce

so much at night. Don't know if it works---maybe someone here can

report if it worked for them.

Jaine

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/11/2004 4:54:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> First you are on your left side...no good...try on the belly,...no

> good....how about with one leg up....nope....turn the head....nope, no

help.....onto

> other side....still bad....return onto back.....wrong....fluff

> pillow......nope....punch pillow....better.....nope, wrong again....onto left

side

> again.....:-( Does this sound familiar? And all the while you might feel like

your

> legs need to go out and have a good run!

>

dang...you must be lurking in my bedroom at night. you described it totallly

accurately. and on the legs, I swing my leg down over the side and wiggle it

to get rid of " that feeling " .

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/11/2004 4:54:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> First you are on your left side...no good...try on the belly,...no

> good....how about with one leg up....nope....turn the head....nope, no

help.....onto

> other side....still bad....return onto back.....wrong....fluff

> pillow......nope....punch pillow....better.....nope, wrong again....onto left

side

> again.....:-( Does this sound familiar? And all the while you might feel like

your

> legs need to go out and have a good run!

>

dang...you must be lurking in my bedroom at night. you described it totallly

accurately. and on the legs, I swing my leg down over the side and wiggle it

to get rid of " that feeling " .

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/11/2004 4:54:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> First you are on your left side...no good...try on the belly,...no

> good....how about with one leg up....nope....turn the head....nope, no

help.....onto

> other side....still bad....return onto back.....wrong....fluff

> pillow......nope....punch pillow....better.....nope, wrong again....onto left

side

> again.....:-( Does this sound familiar? And all the while you might feel like

your

> legs need to go out and have a good run!

>

dang...you must be lurking in my bedroom at night. you described it totallly

accurately. and on the legs, I swing my leg down over the side and wiggle it

to get rid of " that feeling " .

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/11/2004 4:54:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> That pinch of T3 has eliminated that...for now.

>

how much is a pinch? I have Cytomel. if it helps the trying to go to sleep

ritual, I think I'll try it. i have been trying 1/4 grain of Armour...but I

think the straight T3 might be better.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/11/2004 4:54:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> That pinch of T3 has eliminated that...for now.

>

how much is a pinch? I have Cytomel. if it helps the trying to go to sleep

ritual, I think I'll try it. i have been trying 1/4 grain of Armour...but I

think the straight T3 might be better.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/11/2004 4:54:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> That pinch of T3 has eliminated that...for now.

>

how much is a pinch? I have Cytomel. if it helps the trying to go to sleep

ritual, I think I'll try it. i have been trying 1/4 grain of Armour...but I

think the straight T3 might be better.

cindi

[Guest guest]

First you are on your left side...no good...try on the belly,...no good....how

about with one leg up....nope....turn the head....nope, no help.....onto other

side....still bad....return onto back.....wrong....fluff

pillow......nope....punch pillow....better.....nope, wrong again....onto left

side again.....:-( Does this sound familiar? And all the while you might feel

like your legs need to go out and have a good run!

That pinch of T3 has eliminated that...for now.

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: High cortisol at night

In a message dated 9/11/2004 2:43:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> I also started taking a bit of thyroid before bed for the restless

> uncomfortable body thing, you know?

oh wow - you described it...I tried to tell my husband what it felt like...it

really is a weird thing...restless uncomfortable body thing...yea....

cindi

[Guest guest]

What you are describing already has a name, Restless Leg Syndrome, and it is

very common in people with both hypo and hyper thyroid.

Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

[Guest guest]

Hi Val,

How is the tooth today? Lymph nodes? Fever?

I heard on here from many about RLS. That was why I dared to try T3 for better

sleep. It works!

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: High cortisol at night

What you are describing already has a name, Restless Leg Syndrome, and it is

very common in people with both hypo and hyper thyroid.

Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

[Guest guest]

I had very high cortisol at night . I believe it was at 14 and should be

about 1 0r 2. I know the to end of the range was 4. I take phosphatidyl

serine at night. I am now at 1.

>

>Reply-To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>Subject: High cortisol at night

>Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:24:53 -0000

>

[Guest guest]

I had very high cortisol at night . I believe it was at 14 and should be

about 1 0r 2. I know the to end of the range was 4. I take phosphatidyl

serine at night. I am now at 1.

>

>Reply-To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>Subject: High cortisol at night

>Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:24:53 -0000

>

[Guest guest]

Tooth is better, fever down and so are the Lymph nodes, but they are still

tender. I am achy still so it isn;t all the way gone yet, and I am drinking

with a straw and being VERY careful what I eat.. that's what usually gets me

into trouble with this lack of teeth anyway.. Crackers or even carrots can

cut my mouth up pretty badly, but if I am wanting what I am eating bad

enough, I don;t notice the rawness of my gums till the damage is done. Even

toast can do me in and forget English Muffins which I LOVE!!!

Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

[Guest guest]

You have got to get new teeth. :-( Food is one of the joys in this world ( I

think )

Glad to hear that you are improving!

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: High cortisol at night

Tooth is better, fever down and so are the Lymph nodes, but they are still

tender. I am achy still so it isn;t all the way gone yet, and I am drinking

with a straw and being VERY careful what I eat.. that's what usually gets me

into trouble with this lack of teeth anyway.. Crackers or even carrots can

cut my mouth up pretty badly, but if I am wanting what I am eating bad

enough, I don;t notice the rawness of my gums till the damage is done. Even

toast can do me in and forget English Muffins which I LOVE!!!

Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/11/2004 7:41:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> My pinch of Cytomel is half a 5 mcg tablet, just 2.5 mcg.

>

I have the 20 mcg from myrxforless...it will be hard for me to pinch 2.5 out

of that...but I can try...

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/11/2004 7:41:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> My pinch of Cytomel is half a 5 mcg tablet, just 2.5 mcg.

>

I have the 20 mcg from myrxforless...it will be hard for me to pinch 2.5 out

of that...but I can try...

cindi

[Guest guest]

My pinch of Cytomel is half a 5 mcg tablet, just 2.5 mcg.

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: High cortisol at night

In a message dated 9/11/2004 4:54:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> That pinch of T3 has eliminated that...for now.

>

how much is a pinch? I have Cytomel. if it helps the trying to go to sleep

ritual, I think I'll try it. i have been trying 1/4 grain of Armour...but I

think the straight T3 might be better.

cindi

[Guest guest]

My pinch of Cytomel is half a 5 mcg tablet, just 2.5 mcg.

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: High cortisol at night

In a message dated 9/11/2004 4:54:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> That pinch of T3 has eliminated that...for now.

>

how much is a pinch? I have Cytomel. if it helps the trying to go to sleep

ritual, I think I'll try it. i have been trying 1/4 grain of Armour...but I

think the straight T3 might be better.

cindi

[Guest guest]

My pinch of Cytomel is half a 5 mcg tablet, just 2.5 mcg.

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: High cortisol at night

In a message dated 9/11/2004 4:54:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> That pinch of T3 has eliminated that...for now.

>

how much is a pinch? I have Cytomel. if it helps the trying to go to sleep

ritual, I think I'll try it. i have been trying 1/4 grain of Armour...but I

think the straight T3 might be better.

cindi

[Guest guest]

Roxanna, can you explain why the T3 helps with sleep? Does it help

you stay asleep, or go to sleep?

R.

> My pinch of Cytomel is half a 5 mcg tablet, just 2.5 mcg.

>

> North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

> northstargsdr@e...

> www.northstargsdr.org

> Re: High cortisol at night

>

>

> In a message dated 9/11/2004 4:54:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> tayamni@e... writes:

>

> > That pinch of T3 has eliminated that...for now.

> >

>

> how much is a pinch? I have Cytomel. if it helps the trying to

go to sleep

> ritual, I think I'll try it. i have been trying 1/4 grain of

Armour...but I

> think the straight T3 might be better.

> cindi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Roxanna, can you explain why the T3 helps with sleep? Does it help

you stay asleep, or go to sleep?

R.

> My pinch of Cytomel is half a 5 mcg tablet, just 2.5 mcg.

>

> North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

> northstargsdr@e...

> www.northstargsdr.org

> Re: High cortisol at night

>

>

> In a message dated 9/11/2004 4:54:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> tayamni@e... writes:

>

> > That pinch of T3 has eliminated that...for now.

> >

>

> how much is a pinch? I have Cytomel. if it helps the trying to

go to sleep

> ritual, I think I'll try it. i have been trying 1/4 grain of

Armour...but I

> think the straight T3 might be better.

> cindi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Roxanna, can you explain why the T3 helps with sleep? Does it help

you stay asleep, or go to sleep?

R.

> My pinch of Cytomel is half a 5 mcg tablet, just 2.5 mcg.

>

> North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

> northstargsdr@e...

> www.northstargsdr.org

> Re: High cortisol at night

>

>

> In a message dated 9/11/2004 4:54:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> tayamni@e... writes:

>

> > That pinch of T3 has eliminated that...for now.

> >

>

> how much is a pinch? I have Cytomel. if it helps the trying to

go to sleep

> ritual, I think I'll try it. i have been trying 1/4 grain of

Armour...but I

> think the straight T3 might be better.

> cindi

>

>

>