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Hi Jaelynne:

Thanks for the referral. I've heard his name before but probably

dismissed it b/c he doesn't take insurance but I am running out of

options at this point, so I'm tempted to give him a try. Do you know

anyone that has had any success with him?

Thanks again for the info.

Jane

> >

> > Hi all:

> >

> > This is my first post, in fact this is my first experience with any

> > online group, period.

> > So, I guess I'll start with a quick history:

> > I've had vulvar vestibulitis/vulvodynia/pelvic floor dysfunction,

> mild

> > IBS and IC since 2001. Well, when I say that I have all of the

> above,

> > what I mean is that I have been diagnosed with all of the above at

> > various times by a variety of gynos/urologists/gastroenterologists

> but

> > I'm not really sure what I have. And, to be honest neither are the

> > doctors that I've seen so far! I have cyclical pain in the

> > vestibule/vulva areas and particularly around the clitoris (both

> > inside and out). I sometimes also have pain deep inside my vagina

> > too. The pain seems to morph from being a burning pain to a sharp

> pain

> > with no particular pattern. The only point of significance seems to

> > be that the pain is always at it's worst during the latter half of

> my

> > cycle and particularly during the last 10 days before my period. I

> > sometimes get particularly bad 'flares' which are characterized by a

> > lot of thinnish whiteish discharge which seems to precipitate a rash

> > around my vulva area. This is incredibly painful and usually the

> skin

> > becomes red, inlfamed and has bright red spots/lesion-like things

> > which occassionally bleed. This kind of flare happens about four

> > times a year on average. I also have urinary frequency and some

> > burning. I have tried numerous therapies including amyltriptyline;

> > elmiron (for IC); hydroxyzine; vaginal estrogen suppositories;

> pelvic

> > floor physical therapy; lidocaine; metrozoanole; antibiotics;

> douches

> > and various yeast treatments and I am about to start treatment with

> > cromolyn cream. I am currently taking diflucan and nystatin,

> although

> > I just had a lab perform PCR testing for 6 different strains of

> > candida and all were negative. I also suffer from chronic fatigue

> > syndrome and the root cause of this was a pesky little thing called

> > mycoplasma pneumonie. My doc thinks that we eradicated it with six

> > months worth of antibiotics but I haven't actually been swabbed for

> it

> > (only blood work), so this is the next test on my list.

> >

> > I am determined to find an answer to what the hell is wrong with me

> > and that's why I decided to join this group. I've spent the past

> > hour browsing through a lot of the posts on this site and I'm

> > heartened to read about people who are actually getting better,

> > finding treatments that work and - the holy grail of holy grails-

> > actually having pain-free sex!!! Thanks for sharing your

> experiences

> > and giving me hope.

> >

> > Ooops. This is turning into quite the long first post.

> >

> > I was wondering if anyone out there knows of any vulvar pain

> > specialists in NYC? After going through several gynecologists, I am

> > now working primarily with my primary care doctor who is lovely and

> > spends a great deal of time discussing possible treatments with me.

> > However, I usually scavenge up most of the data/research in-between

> > visits and 'suggest' possible treatments/possible tests to her each

> > time I go. This is not a terrible situation but I would really like

> to

> > find a doctor who specializes in vaginal pain. I read a post

> > mentioning the NYU clinic but I went there about a year ago and had

> a

> > terrible experience with the head guy, so needless to say, I'm not

> > going back. I'll travel a little ways if I have to, the name

> > Kellog, I think, keeps coming up. Does anyone know where she's

> > located and if she takes insurance?

> >

> > Anyways, sorry that this post is so long. Thanks and appreciation

> for

> > any info out there.

> >

> > love to all,

> >

> > Jane

> >

>

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Thanks Hollis:

I also think that there has to be an hormonal connection and so I have

been working with one of my doctors and taking bio-identical hormone

supplements. I haven't been tested in a few months but the last time

I had blood work it seemed like my levels were within range, although

who knows what that really means. All I know is that since I've been

taking bio-identical hormones, I've been feeling a lot better before,

during and after my period however so far they have not had any impact

on my vaginal pain. I probably need to find someone who's more of an

expert in that field, but as you quite rightly point out knowledgeable

docs are hard to find!

Jane

>

> In a message dated 10/27/2006 11:12:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> bowlesjane@... writes:

>

>

> > The only point of significance seems to

> > be that the pain is always at it's worst during the latter half of my

> > cycle and particularly during the last 10 days before my period.

> >

>

>

>

> When you routinely experience cyclical flare-up like this, it really

> does point to a hormonal connection. Women who are low in

> estradiol (or too high in progesterone) in the luteal phase -- when

> estradiol is naturally at its lowest levels -- often see this pattern

> in their pain fluctuations. Inadequate estradiol levels often lead

> to increase in pain and sensitivity of vulvar/vaginal tissues; and

> supplementing systemically and/or topical and/or vaginally can

> often help.

>

> I would suggest that you seek out a practitioner who has an

> understanding of the relationship between hormone imbalances

> and vulvar pain to get testing. Easier said than done (finding a

> knowledgeable M.D., that is), but it sounds as if this could

> potentially be very helpful for you, along with whatever else

> you pursue.

>

> Hollis

>

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Thanks Hollis:

I also think that there has to be an hormonal connection and so I have

been working with one of my doctors and taking bio-identical hormone

supplements. I haven't been tested in a few months but the last time

I had blood work it seemed like my levels were within range, although

who knows what that really means. All I know is that since I've been

taking bio-identical hormones, I've been feeling a lot better before,

during and after my period however so far they have not had any impact

on my vaginal pain. I probably need to find someone who's more of an

expert in that field, but as you quite rightly point out knowledgeable

docs are hard to find!

Jane

>

> In a message dated 10/27/2006 11:12:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> bowlesjane@... writes:

>

>

> > The only point of significance seems to

> > be that the pain is always at it's worst during the latter half of my

> > cycle and particularly during the last 10 days before my period.

> >

>

>

>

> When you routinely experience cyclical flare-up like this, it really

> does point to a hormonal connection. Women who are low in

> estradiol (or too high in progesterone) in the luteal phase -- when

> estradiol is naturally at its lowest levels -- often see this pattern

> in their pain fluctuations. Inadequate estradiol levels often lead

> to increase in pain and sensitivity of vulvar/vaginal tissues; and

> supplementing systemically and/or topical and/or vaginally can

> often help.

>

> I would suggest that you seek out a practitioner who has an

> understanding of the relationship between hormone imbalances

> and vulvar pain to get testing. Easier said than done (finding a

> knowledgeable M.D., that is), but it sounds as if this could

> potentially be very helpful for you, along with whatever else

> you pursue.

>

> Hollis

>

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Thanks Hollis:

I also think that there has to be an hormonal connection and so I have

been working with one of my doctors and taking bio-identical hormone

supplements. I haven't been tested in a few months but the last time

I had blood work it seemed like my levels were within range, although

who knows what that really means. All I know is that since I've been

taking bio-identical hormones, I've been feeling a lot better before,

during and after my period however so far they have not had any impact

on my vaginal pain. I probably need to find someone who's more of an

expert in that field, but as you quite rightly point out knowledgeable

docs are hard to find!

Jane

>

> In a message dated 10/27/2006 11:12:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> bowlesjane@... writes:

>

>

> > The only point of significance seems to

> > be that the pain is always at it's worst during the latter half of my

> > cycle and particularly during the last 10 days before my period.

> >

>

>

>

> When you routinely experience cyclical flare-up like this, it really

> does point to a hormonal connection. Women who are low in

> estradiol (or too high in progesterone) in the luteal phase -- when

> estradiol is naturally at its lowest levels -- often see this pattern

> in their pain fluctuations. Inadequate estradiol levels often lead

> to increase in pain and sensitivity of vulvar/vaginal tissues; and

> supplementing systemically and/or topical and/or vaginally can

> often help.

>

> I would suggest that you seek out a practitioner who has an

> understanding of the relationship between hormone imbalances

> and vulvar pain to get testing. Easier said than done (finding a

> knowledgeable M.D., that is), but it sounds as if this could

> potentially be very helpful for you, along with whatever else

> you pursue.

>

> Hollis

>

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Hi, Jane,

Dr. Goldman did a thorough examination of me and now has me going to

a physical therapist. I've been going for three weeks now. While I

am not completely healed, my symptoms are lessening.

The jury is still out. If I am not healed at the end of the three

months of PT he recommended, he's going to inject me with botox to

paralyze the muscles in question.....(how weird is that?)

My insurance reimbursed be for about 2/3rds the cost of the visit.

But he does charge 1250 dollars for the one-hour examination. His

office sends you a packet in the mail which you fill out and the two

of you talk about your medical history extensively. He told me I was

an " easy case " --which surprised me.

Best of luck, I know how frustrating unexplained genital pain can be!

Jaelynne

>

> Hi Jaelynne:

>

> Thanks for the referral. I've heard his name before but probably

> dismissed it b/c he doesn't take insurance but I am running out of

> options at this point, so I'm tempted to give him a try. Do you

know

> anyone that has had any success with him?

>

> Thanks again for the info.

>

> Jane

>

>

>

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Forgive me if I have posted this before. I am in NYC. I really feel

the best doc I have seen for vulvar pain is Dr. in

Rochester, NY. Jet Blue flies there and he took my insurance. I

really trust him and he's open to communicating with another doc

closer to home. I feel that I was diagnosed wrong so many times, it

was worth it to travel for a consult. And if you have time, there's

a GREAT pt in Rochester: Featherstone. She is not in the same

office, but works closely with . I saw her for a consult only

which was really helpful in pointing me in the right direction with a

PT in my area.

Lia

> >

> > Hi:

> >

> > Quick answer...............

> >

> > Kellogg Spadt is in Philadelphia, PA at Graduate Hospital.

> .

> >

> > She is amazing, I've been using her for two years. I have

personal

> choice insurance, she takes that. Call to find out if she takes

> whatever insurance you have.

> >

> >

> > Sherri

> >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > **IF REPLYING TO THIS POST, PLEASE REMOVE ORIGINAL POST,

THANKS**

> > >

> > > Our HOME page is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisorders

> > > to search our archives, files, articles, etc.

> > >

> > > ***

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Lia:

Thanks for the name. It's the first time that I've heard of him but

I'm so grateful for any leads. really, thanks for taking the time to

write. I'm going to check him and Dr. Spadt Kellogg out as soon as I

get done with all of the testing that my primary care has lined up for me.

Love,

Jane

-- In VulvarDisorders , " limay103 " wrote:

>

> Forgive me if I have posted this before. I am in NYC. I really feel

> the best doc I have seen for vulvar pain is Dr. in

> Rochester, NY. Jet Blue flies there and he took my insurance. I

> really trust him and he's open to communicating with another doc

> closer to home. I feel that I was diagnosed wrong so many times, it

> was worth it to travel for a consult. And if you have time, there's

> a GREAT pt in Rochester: Featherstone. She is not in the same

> office, but works closely with . I saw her for a consult only

> which was really helpful in pointing me in the right direction with a

> PT in my area.

>

> Lia

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi:

> > >

> > > Quick answer...............

> > >

> > > Kellogg Spadt is in Philadelphia, PA at Graduate Hospital.

> > .

> > >

> > > She is amazing, I've been using her for two years. I have

> personal

> > choice insurance, she takes that. Call to find out if she takes

> > whatever insurance you have.

> > >

> > >

> > > Sherri

> > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > **IF REPLYING TO THIS POST, PLEASE REMOVE ORIGINAL POST,

> THANKS**

> > > >

> > > > Our HOME page is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisorders

> > > > to search our archives, files, articles, etc.

> > > >

> > > > ***

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Jaelynne:

I can't believe he charges that much!!! My primary care had mentioned

his name to me before and said that he was somewhere in the range of

$500 which I thought was expensive. He'll have to be my last resort

because that seems like a crazy amount of money to be charging for one

hour! I'm curious, what kind of PT are you getting? I did almost a

year of biofeedback and electro stim (using a home machine) and I did

see some improvement but it wasn't drastic -- I guess I'm not an easy

case. As for the botox, it's funny you should mention it, I met a

woman at my chronic fatigue doctor's office the other day who said

that she had also been injected with botox. She said that it seemed

to work but I'm scared of the prospect of botox anywhere in my body,

considering that it's a poison...still, in the end, whatever works is

probably what I'll do. Did Dr. Golstein mention how the botox

injections would affect sex? I mean, can you feel it? Can you have

an orgasm? I'm married and dearly want to have sex with my husband

again, so these are important questions for me.

Hope the PT works for you and you don't have to resort to the botox.

Love,

Jane

> >

> > Hi Jaelynne:

> >

> > Thanks for the referral. I've heard his name before but probably

> > dismissed it b/c he doesn't take insurance but I am running out of

> > options at this point, so I'm tempted to give him a try. Do you

> know

> > anyone that has had any success with him?

> >

> > Thanks again for the info.

> >

> > Jane

> >

> >

> >

>

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Jaelynne:

I can't believe he charges that much!!! My primary care had mentioned

his name to me before and said that he was somewhere in the range of

$500 which I thought was expensive. He'll have to be my last resort

because that seems like a crazy amount of money to be charging for one

hour! I'm curious, what kind of PT are you getting? I did almost a

year of biofeedback and electro stim (using a home machine) and I did

see some improvement but it wasn't drastic -- I guess I'm not an easy

case. As for the botox, it's funny you should mention it, I met a

woman at my chronic fatigue doctor's office the other day who said

that she had also been injected with botox. She said that it seemed

to work but I'm scared of the prospect of botox anywhere in my body,

considering that it's a poison...still, in the end, whatever works is

probably what I'll do. Did Dr. Golstein mention how the botox

injections would affect sex? I mean, can you feel it? Can you have

an orgasm? I'm married and dearly want to have sex with my husband

again, so these are important questions for me.

Hope the PT works for you and you don't have to resort to the botox.

Love,

Jane

> >

> > Hi Jaelynne:

> >

> > Thanks for the referral. I've heard his name before but probably

> > dismissed it b/c he doesn't take insurance but I am running out of

> > options at this point, so I'm tempted to give him a try. Do you

> know

> > anyone that has had any success with him?

> >

> > Thanks again for the info.

> >

> > Jane

> >

> >

> >

>

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Jaelynne:

I can't believe he charges that much!!! My primary care had mentioned

his name to me before and said that he was somewhere in the range of

$500 which I thought was expensive. He'll have to be my last resort

because that seems like a crazy amount of money to be charging for one

hour! I'm curious, what kind of PT are you getting? I did almost a

year of biofeedback and electro stim (using a home machine) and I did

see some improvement but it wasn't drastic -- I guess I'm not an easy

case. As for the botox, it's funny you should mention it, I met a

woman at my chronic fatigue doctor's office the other day who said

that she had also been injected with botox. She said that it seemed

to work but I'm scared of the prospect of botox anywhere in my body,

considering that it's a poison...still, in the end, whatever works is

probably what I'll do. Did Dr. Golstein mention how the botox

injections would affect sex? I mean, can you feel it? Can you have

an orgasm? I'm married and dearly want to have sex with my husband

again, so these are important questions for me.

Hope the PT works for you and you don't have to resort to the botox.

Love,

Jane

> >

> > Hi Jaelynne:

> >

> > Thanks for the referral. I've heard his name before but probably

> > dismissed it b/c he doesn't take insurance but I am running out of

> > options at this point, so I'm tempted to give him a try. Do you

> know

> > anyone that has had any success with him?

> >

> > Thanks again for the info.

> >

> > Jane

> >

> >

> >

>

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Hi Jane:

It may take a few months to get a first time appointment with Dr. Kellogg. I think I waited 3 or 4 months the first time. She is worth the wait.

Sherri

-------------- Original message -------------- > Lia: > > Thanks for the name. It's the first time that I've heard of him but > I'm so grateful for any leads. really, thanks for taking the time to > write. I'm going to check him and Dr. Spadt Kellogg out as soon as I > get done with all of the testing that my primary care has lined up for me. > > Love, > > Jane > > > > -- In VulvarDisorders , "limay103" wrote: > > > > Forgive me if I have posted this before. I am in NYC. I really feel > > the best doc I have seen for vulvar pain is Dr. in > > Rochester, NY. Jet Blue flies there and he took my insurance. I > > really trust him and he's open to communicating w

ith another doc > > closer to home. I feel that I was diagnosed wrong so many times, it > > was worth it to travel for a consult. And if you have time, there's > > a GREAT pt in Rochester: Featherstone. She is not in the same > > office, but works closely with . I saw her for a consult only > > which was really helpful in pointing me in the right direction with a > > PT in my area. > > > > Lia > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi: > > > > > > > > Quick answer............... > > > > > > > > Kellogg Spadt is in Philadelphia, PA at Graduate Hospital. > > > . > > > > > > > > She is amazing, I've been using her for two years. I have > > personal > > > choice insurance, she takes that. Call to find out if she takes > > > whatever insurance you have. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sherri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **IF REPLYING TO THIS POST, PLEASE REMOVE ORIGINAL POST, > > THANKS** > > > > > > > > > > Our HOME page is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisorders > > > > > to search our archives, files, articles, etc. > > > > > > > > > > ***

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Hi Jane:

It may take a few months to get a first time appointment with Dr. Kellogg. I think I waited 3 or 4 months the first time. She is worth the wait.

Sherri

-------------- Original message -------------- > Lia: > > Thanks for the name. It's the first time that I've heard of him but > I'm so grateful for any leads. really, thanks for taking the time to > write. I'm going to check him and Dr. Spadt Kellogg out as soon as I > get done with all of the testing that my primary care has lined up for me. > > Love, > > Jane > > > > -- In VulvarDisorders , "limay103" wrote: > > > > Forgive me if I have posted this before. I am in NYC. I really feel > > the best doc I have seen for vulvar pain is Dr. in > > Rochester, NY. Jet Blue flies there and he took my insurance. I > > really trust him and he's open to communicating w

ith another doc > > closer to home. I feel that I was diagnosed wrong so many times, it > > was worth it to travel for a consult. And if you have time, there's > > a GREAT pt in Rochester: Featherstone. She is not in the same > > office, but works closely with . I saw her for a consult only > > which was really helpful in pointing me in the right direction with a > > PT in my area. > > > > Lia > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi: > > > > > > > > Quick answer............... > > > > > > > > Kellogg Spadt is in Philadelphia, PA at Graduate Hospital. > > > . > > > > > > > > She is amazing, I've been using her for two years. I have > > personal > > > choice insurance, she takes that. Call to find out if she takes > > > whatever insurance you have. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sherri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **IF REPLYING TO THIS POST, PLEASE REMOVE ORIGINAL POST, > > THANKS** > > > > > > > > > > Our HOME page is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisorders > > > > > to search our archives, files, articles, etc. > > > > > > > > > > ***

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