Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Stacie, I don't have great advice to give. I'm still too much in the thick of it all. So, I don't have the perspective that Jodi has yet. Does your son have appropriate oral skills to achieve your goal? Does he have the oral-motor ability and the stamina to eat the necessary calories? I can tell you our road has been incredibly slow and tedious. But once we were hooked up with an appropriate feeding therapist, it was always a forward-moving process. We are still using the tube for 40% of nutrition....yet our endo is complaining that I am not pushing enough calories for adequate weight gain. Trying to balance increased oral intake with the needs of a RSS child is very hard. I am told that the type of weaning you describe is almost always accompanied by weight loss. That is hard to endure for those of us who work so hard for each ounce our child gains. Our approach has been more similar to Jodi's. For the stage we are currently at, I present food, note approx. calories and then make up for the deficit with the tube. There is no science to it....you do what works for you and your child. My only words of comfort are that you are not alone. There are many of us who are going through similar struggles within the privacy of our own homes. I try to remind myself that all of this is a process....For me,that takes the pressure off of any single meal and instead focuses on improvement over time. Three years ago, nothing passed my daughter's lips except her own fingers. Today she ate 1/4 cup of black eyed peas, 1/5 peanut butter sandwich and 4 ounces of carnation instant breakfast for lunch. It still requires cueing on my part, but less and less. I don't think I've given you anything very helpful here...but I can tell you I share in the frustration, fear, and tedium... Hang in there, Irene Mom to , 5, 30#, 39 " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Stacie, I don't have great advice to give. I'm still too much in the thick of it all. So, I don't have the perspective that Jodi has yet. Does your son have appropriate oral skills to achieve your goal? Does he have the oral-motor ability and the stamina to eat the necessary calories? I can tell you our road has been incredibly slow and tedious. But once we were hooked up with an appropriate feeding therapist, it was always a forward-moving process. We are still using the tube for 40% of nutrition....yet our endo is complaining that I am not pushing enough calories for adequate weight gain. Trying to balance increased oral intake with the needs of a RSS child is very hard. I am told that the type of weaning you describe is almost always accompanied by weight loss. That is hard to endure for those of us who work so hard for each ounce our child gains. Our approach has been more similar to Jodi's. For the stage we are currently at, I present food, note approx. calories and then make up for the deficit with the tube. There is no science to it....you do what works for you and your child. My only words of comfort are that you are not alone. There are many of us who are going through similar struggles within the privacy of our own homes. I try to remind myself that all of this is a process....For me,that takes the pressure off of any single meal and instead focuses on improvement over time. Three years ago, nothing passed my daughter's lips except her own fingers. Today she ate 1/4 cup of black eyed peas, 1/5 peanut butter sandwich and 4 ounces of carnation instant breakfast for lunch. It still requires cueing on my part, but less and less. I don't think I've given you anything very helpful here...but I can tell you I share in the frustration, fear, and tedium... Hang in there, Irene Mom to , 5, 30#, 39 " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Dear Stacie , I'm sorry you are having such a rough time with this. Like Irene I can;t really offer any magic solutions - but just wanted to let you know that you are not alone! Tonight Finlay ate 1 noodle for dinner - last night it was 2 baked beans!!!! Its very hard to balance the tube feeds wiht the oral feeds to ensure they are getting enough calories but are still hungry for meals! - Especially when these are kids that don't seem to have normal appetite patterns anyway! Our dietician has worked out for us how many calories Finlay needs to gain weight per day - its works out to be 1100mls of pediasure - assuming that is all he consumes. So at least I know that if he eats nothing else he will still gain weight provided I give him enough pediasure by bolus and overnight feeds. He has lost a little bit of weight in the last 2 weeks as I was cutting back on feeds to try and encourage him to eat more orally....its a long road and some days it seems to be all uphill - but it was lovely to hear Jodi's experiences with Max - its nice to know someone has been where we are and has come through the other end!!! Anyway you are doing a great job so hang in there and know that there are lots of us out there going through it with you! in new Zealand mum to Finlay aged 2 and a bit!! g-tube 80cms and 9.3kgs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Dear Stacie , I'm sorry you are having such a rough time with this. Like Irene I can;t really offer any magic solutions - but just wanted to let you know that you are not alone! Tonight Finlay ate 1 noodle for dinner - last night it was 2 baked beans!!!! Its very hard to balance the tube feeds wiht the oral feeds to ensure they are getting enough calories but are still hungry for meals! - Especially when these are kids that don't seem to have normal appetite patterns anyway! Our dietician has worked out for us how many calories Finlay needs to gain weight per day - its works out to be 1100mls of pediasure - assuming that is all he consumes. So at least I know that if he eats nothing else he will still gain weight provided I give him enough pediasure by bolus and overnight feeds. He has lost a little bit of weight in the last 2 weeks as I was cutting back on feeds to try and encourage him to eat more orally....its a long road and some days it seems to be all uphill - but it was lovely to hear Jodi's experiences with Max - its nice to know someone has been where we are and has come through the other end!!! Anyway you are doing a great job so hang in there and know that there are lots of us out there going through it with you! in new Zealand mum to Finlay aged 2 and a bit!! g-tube 80cms and 9.3kgs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Dear Stacie , I'm sorry you are having such a rough time with this. Like Irene I can;t really offer any magic solutions - but just wanted to let you know that you are not alone! Tonight Finlay ate 1 noodle for dinner - last night it was 2 baked beans!!!! Its very hard to balance the tube feeds wiht the oral feeds to ensure they are getting enough calories but are still hungry for meals! - Especially when these are kids that don't seem to have normal appetite patterns anyway! Our dietician has worked out for us how many calories Finlay needs to gain weight per day - its works out to be 1100mls of pediasure - assuming that is all he consumes. So at least I know that if he eats nothing else he will still gain weight provided I give him enough pediasure by bolus and overnight feeds. He has lost a little bit of weight in the last 2 weeks as I was cutting back on feeds to try and encourage him to eat more orally....its a long road and some days it seems to be all uphill - but it was lovely to hear Jodi's experiences with Max - its nice to know someone has been where we are and has come through the other end!!! Anyway you are doing a great job so hang in there and know that there are lots of us out there going through it with you! in new Zealand mum to Finlay aged 2 and a bit!! g-tube 80cms and 9.3kgs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Hi , Glad to hear from you again. I know you are going through some tough times with and other events. is not a feeding tube so I cannot offer any specific advice. Jodi, Irene and Mark are the people I know who can best provide some guidance. All I can say is this. I have met ( and the rest of your family of course.) is a very bright boy. With patience and your guidance he will eat on his own. I think the less you worry about it the easier it will be for the both of you. Of course this is real easy for me to say from 2500 miles away. We are going through a similar thing with . We are trying to finish potty training, get him to dress himself, and get him to feed himself. The feeding and potty training are going OK but he preferrs to use a diaper and have us feed him. He will often dig in his heels and refuse to use the toilet or feed himself. When he does this then we offer a reward for complying and take away something if he does not. We are just starting the dressing part and I can tell this is going to be troublesome also. But I have to remember that the less fuss we make of this the faster and easier it will happen. Anyway, while I can't offer any specific advise, all I can say is keep trying. It will take time but is very bright. He will catch on. Also, if he is in school, peer pressure will help some. It has eating cookies at snack time even though he isn't hungry. I hope this helps. Good luck and please keep us informed of your progress. Ken M > > I could really use some advice from those that have gone through the > transition period from tube feedings to oral feedings. We just > started last week and it has been a difficult at times. > > We also started Periactin, which seems to be going well (I think). I > don't notice much of a difference yet. > > Our previous schedule with bolus feeds were 4 times a day and he was > taking 9 ounces at each feeding. Our new schedule is to give him only > 5 ounces for breakfast, oral feeding only at lunch, regular bolus feed > at 4 pm and regular bolus feed at 7:30 pm. This schedule will be > updated as he gets better about the quantity he takes in. > > Of course, I'm VERY nervous about him losing weight. He did lose a > " little " but the G.I. doctor said that this is to be expected. > > I'm just REALLY wondering what others have gone through, words of > advice, and how long a process it was. doesn't have a very wide > range of favorite foods, so this is difficult as well. Luckily, he > LOVES melted cheese so grilled cheese, pizza, quesadilla's are his > favorites. > > Just a few moments ago, I had a stress break down and cried and got > very frustrated because today was the worst day as far as working with > him to eat. So, of course, I knew who to turn to......RSS Support! I > could really use some help and words of encouragement. I'm very down > right now and tired of this whole eating situation. I'm sure I'm just > having a bad day. > > Thanks for what you can offer. > > Stacie Lehfeldt > 's Mom > > You can email me directly if you want. tclfam@p... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Hi Stacie, My daughter Isabel has just started to eat orally(not technically eat, but experimenting with food). But like Irene said, my daughter also never used to put anything in her mouth other than her fingers but now she is trying out different foods. So just want to tell you, you are not alone and things will get better. Regards, Mini > > I could really use some advice from those that have gone through the > transition period from tube feedings to oral feedings. We just > started last week and it has been a difficult at times. > > We also started Periactin, which seems to be going well (I think). I > don't notice much of a difference yet. > > Our previous schedule with bolus feeds were 4 times a day and he was > taking 9 ounces at each feeding. Our new schedule is to give him only > 5 ounces for breakfast, oral feeding only at lunch, regular bolus feed > at 4 pm and regular bolus feed at 7:30 pm. This schedule will be > updated as he gets better about the quantity he takes in. > > Of course, I'm VERY nervous about him losing weight. He did lose a > " little " but the G.I. doctor said that this is to be expected. > > I'm just REALLY wondering what others have gone through, words of > advice, and how long a process it was. doesn't have a very wide > range of favorite foods, so this is difficult as well. Luckily, he > LOVES melted cheese so grilled cheese, pizza, quesadilla's are his > favorites. > > Just a few moments ago, I had a stress break down and cried and got > very frustrated because today was the worst day as far as working with > him to eat. So, of course, I knew who to turn to......RSS Support! I > could really use some help and words of encouragement. I'm very down > right now and tired of this whole eating situation. I'm sure I'm just > having a bad day. > > Thanks for what you can offer. > > Stacie Lehfeldt > 's Mom > > You can email me directly if you want. tclfam@p... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Hi Stacie, My daughter Isabel has just started to eat orally(not technically eat, but experimenting with food). But like Irene said, my daughter also never used to put anything in her mouth other than her fingers but now she is trying out different foods. So just want to tell you, you are not alone and things will get better. Regards, Mini > > I could really use some advice from those that have gone through the > transition period from tube feedings to oral feedings. We just > started last week and it has been a difficult at times. > > We also started Periactin, which seems to be going well (I think). I > don't notice much of a difference yet. > > Our previous schedule with bolus feeds were 4 times a day and he was > taking 9 ounces at each feeding. Our new schedule is to give him only > 5 ounces for breakfast, oral feeding only at lunch, regular bolus feed > at 4 pm and regular bolus feed at 7:30 pm. This schedule will be > updated as he gets better about the quantity he takes in. > > Of course, I'm VERY nervous about him losing weight. He did lose a > " little " but the G.I. doctor said that this is to be expected. > > I'm just REALLY wondering what others have gone through, words of > advice, and how long a process it was. doesn't have a very wide > range of favorite foods, so this is difficult as well. Luckily, he > LOVES melted cheese so grilled cheese, pizza, quesadilla's are his > favorites. > > Just a few moments ago, I had a stress break down and cried and got > very frustrated because today was the worst day as far as working with > him to eat. So, of course, I knew who to turn to......RSS Support! I > could really use some help and words of encouragement. I'm very down > right now and tired of this whole eating situation. I'm sure I'm just > having a bad day. > > Thanks for what you can offer. > > Stacie Lehfeldt > 's Mom > > You can email me directly if you want. tclfam@p... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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