Re: Progesterone. to Janie - Emerita -vs- Endau ...

[Guest guest]

I think the pump sounds like a good idea. Don't know about the cream.

I have been using progesterone cream but I wonder if I even need it. I have

never noticed that it does a darn thing...unless I use too much. Then my breasts

get bigger. I wonder if all the stuff I thought was ED is really just hypoT.

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: Re: Progesterone. to Janie - Emerita

-vs- Endau ...

In a message dated 9/7/2004 11:02:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vickie@... writes:

> Popping in for a quick statement about Emerita progesterone cream,

anyone tried " Balance " progesterone cream made by Sayge Biosciences.? I like

it because it is a pump.

cindi

[Guest guest]

I think the pump sounds like a good idea. Don't know about the cream.

I have been using progesterone cream but I wonder if I even need it. I have

never noticed that it does a darn thing...unless I use too much. Then my breasts

get bigger. I wonder if all the stuff I thought was ED is really just hypoT.

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: Re: Progesterone. to Janie - Emerita

-vs- Endau ...

In a message dated 9/7/2004 11:02:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vickie@... writes:

> Popping in for a quick statement about Emerita progesterone cream,

anyone tried " Balance " progesterone cream made by Sayge Biosciences.? I like

it because it is a pump.

cindi

[Guest guest]

I did not do well with progesterone at all

Re: Re: Progesterone. to Janie - Emerita

-vs- Endau ...

In a message dated 9/7/2004 11:02:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vickie@... writes:

> Popping in for a quick statement about Emerita progesterone cream,

anyone tried " Balance " progesterone cream made by Sayge Biosciences.? I

like

it because it is a pump.

cindi

[Guest guest]

I did not do well with progesterone at all

Re: Re: Progesterone. to Janie - Emerita

-vs- Endau ...

In a message dated 9/7/2004 11:02:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vickie@... writes:

> Popping in for a quick statement about Emerita progesterone cream,

anyone tried " Balance " progesterone cream made by Sayge Biosciences.? I

like

it because it is a pump.

cindi

[Guest guest]

I did not do well with progesterone at all

Re: Re: Progesterone. to Janie - Emerita

-vs- Endau ...

In a message dated 9/7/2004 11:02:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vickie@... writes:

> Popping in for a quick statement about Emerita progesterone cream,

anyone tried " Balance " progesterone cream made by Sayge Biosciences.? I

like

it because it is a pump.

cindi

[Guest guest]

Jamy, what bad stuff did the progesterone cream do to you?

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: Re: Progesterone. to Janie - Emerita

-vs- Endau ...

In a message dated 9/7/2004 11:02:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vickie@... writes:

> Popping in for a quick statement about Emerita progesterone cream,

anyone tried " Balance " progesterone cream made by Sayge Biosciences.? I

like

it because it is a pump.

cindi

[Guest guest]

Jamy, what bad stuff did the progesterone cream do to you?

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: Re: Progesterone. to Janie - Emerita

-vs- Endau ...

In a message dated 9/7/2004 11:02:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vickie@... writes:

> Popping in for a quick statement about Emerita progesterone cream,

anyone tried " Balance " progesterone cream made by Sayge Biosciences.? I

like

it because it is a pump.

cindi

[Guest guest]

Jamy, what bad stuff did the progesterone cream do to you?

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: Re: Progesterone. to Janie - Emerita

-vs- Endau ...

In a message dated 9/7/2004 11:02:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vickie@... writes:

> Popping in for a quick statement about Emerita progesterone cream,

anyone tried " Balance " progesterone cream made by Sayge Biosciences.? I

like

it because it is a pump.

cindi

[Guest guest]

made me feel prego and grouchy and bloated and my boobs were killing me

Re: Re: Progesterone. to Janie -

Emerita -vs- Endau ...

In a message dated 9/7/2004 11:02:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vickie@... writes:

> Popping in for a quick statement about Emerita progesterone cream,

anyone tried " Balance " progesterone cream made by Sayge Biosciences.? I

like

it because it is a pump.

cindi

[Guest guest]

made me feel prego and grouchy and bloated and my boobs were killing me

Re: Re: Progesterone. to Janie -

Emerita -vs- Endau ...

In a message dated 9/7/2004 11:02:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vickie@... writes:

> Popping in for a quick statement about Emerita progesterone cream,

anyone tried " Balance " progesterone cream made by Sayge Biosciences.? I

like

it because it is a pump.

cindi

[Guest guest]

did I answer this

>

>Reply-To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>To: <NaturalThyroidHormones >

>Subject: Re: Re: Progesterone. to Janie - Emerita

>-vs- Endau ...

>Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:36:37 -0400

>

[Guest guest]

Feeling prego as in...??? I haven't had that experience. I can relate to the

boob thing tho....had bloat with it too.

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: Re: Progesterone. to Janie -

Emerita -vs- Endau ...

In a message dated 9/7/2004 11:02:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vickie@... writes:

> Popping in for a quick statement about Emerita progesterone cream,

anyone tried " Balance " progesterone cream made by Sayge Biosciences.?

I like

it because it is a pump.

cindi

[Guest guest]

Feeling prego as in...??? I haven't had that experience. I can relate to the

boob thing tho....had bloat with it too.

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: Re: Progesterone. to Janie -

Emerita -vs- Endau ...

In a message dated 9/7/2004 11:02:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vickie@... writes:

> Popping in for a quick statement about Emerita progesterone cream,

anyone tried " Balance " progesterone cream made by Sayge Biosciences.?

I like

it because it is a pump.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/7/2004 9:18:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, val@...

writes:

> I got that nasty back fat too.

I thought that was just " over 45 " fat.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/7/2004 9:18:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, val@...

writes:

> I got that nasty back fat too.

I thought that was just " over 45 " fat.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/7/2004 9:18:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, val@...

writes:

> I got that nasty back fat too.

I thought that was just " over 45 " fat.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

I have been thinking about having salivary testing of my hormone levels but I

have read that at this stage of my life ( almost 47 ) my hormones are all over

the place from day to day and time to time so that I cannot get a good picture

of what is happening over time. Also, I never know where I am in my cycle for

reference ranges because I am so erratic as to ovulation.

If I had a lot of money to spare I would do many tests over different

times...but I cannot do that.

One thing I do not understand is why progesterone would be thought the hormone

diuretic where it is the hormone of pregnancy which is a fluid retaining time. I

think I bloat on progesterone. I certainly do not shed water!

I read that low estrogens cause the loss of waist. I still have a very defined

waist so am making the supposition that I have a bit of estrogen. I still have

periods too.

On a funny note....I thought about doing cortisol level testing but know myself

well enough to know that I would stress out at the thought of doing the test and

cause my cortisol to rise for the testing!!! So, I decided not to waste my money

on that!

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Progesterone. to Janie - Emerita -vs- Endau

....

I, too, did not do well with progesterone cream. Following Dr. Lee, I used

it for two years. My bone density went from -2.5 to -3.1. I then tried

sublingual bi-est and compounded progesterone capsules. I was a crying

mess. At the end of five months, I had ZERO estradiol and truckloads of

progesterone. I stopped that and went to a bio-identical estradiol gel with

intermittent progesterone suppositories to cause shedding, if necessary.

That has been wonderful for a year. However, sometime in late May, I

started having night sweats and have gained 9 pounds. Before that, I had

not been able to lose but had not gained. I'm thinking I'm not absorbing

the estradiol any more so will have to resume my search. I don't know if

the weight gain is estradiol deprivation or thyroid so I need to get some

hormone testing done.

Menopause is a time of estrogen LOSS but, from what I understand,

progesterone does not decline for at least 10 years after. Some

progesterone is produced by the adrenals so if one's adrenals are not

working correctly, I can see how progesterone might help.

Regardless, I think that testing of estradiol and progesterone is advised

before and during the time any hormones are used.

Val

I have been using progesterone cream but I wonder if I even need it. I have

never noticed that it does a darn thing...unless I use too much. Then my

breasts get bigger. I wonder if all the stuff I thought was ED is really

just hypoT.

[Guest guest]

anyone with above 20% body fat will have it in places that are there for the

long haul. Neck and back around waist and bra are common

Re: Progesterone. to Janie - Emerita -vs-

Endau ...

In a message dated 9/7/2004 9:18:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, val@...

writes:

> I got that nasty back fat too.

I thought that was just " over 45 " fat.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

anyone with above 20% body fat will have it in places that are there for the

long haul. Neck and back around waist and bra are common

Re: Progesterone. to Janie - Emerita -vs-

Endau ...

In a message dated 9/7/2004 9:18:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, val@...

writes:

> I got that nasty back fat too.

I thought that was just " over 45 " fat.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/8/2004 12:55:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> Are you speaking from experience? I thought all your fat dropped off a

> couple weeks ago?

>

Actually...now that I'm checking...that mysterious back fat I noticed about 6

months ago has disappeared. The only thing that I'm left with from the

thyroid is belly fat and looser thighs. But I'm back to my usual weight...so I

don't know where this fat has come from...it's a great mystery to me.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/8/2004 1:48:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> there is hope for fat-back to disappear with piggy pills

lol. fatback. cute. oink.

cindi

[Guest guest]

Ah, well then, there is hope for fat-back to disappear with piggy pills! :-)

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: Progesterone. to Janie - Emerita -vs-

Endau ...

In a message dated 9/8/2004 12:55:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tayamni@... writes:

> Are you speaking from experience? I thought all your fat dropped off a

> couple weeks ago?

>

Actually...now that I'm checking...that mysterious back fat I noticed about 6

months ago has disappeared. The only thing that I'm left with from the

thyroid is belly fat and looser thighs. But I'm back to my usual weight...so

I

don't know where this fat has come from...it's a great mystery to me.

Cindi