RSS & diabetes, heart disease

November 27, 2001

Could someone explain to me why our RSS kids are prone to diabetes

and heart disease later in life and how we know this?

Thanks,

Colin (RSS) & Hayden - who will be one next week!

December 3, 2001

I may be mixing things up. I know she showed that the untreated kids

had a higher weight-for-height proportion than the treated kids

(e.g., untreated ended up being heavier). But I can't remember about

the Type II.

> -

>

> I thought Dr. Harbison's study showed that 2 out of 6 of her

children

> in the 4th phase have developed Type II diabetes. These would be

children

> that are treated with GH. I could be remembering wrong. But also,

I thought

> a side effect of GH is higher insulin levels. But, however, go

back to

> normal within a year of no GH treatment. Debbie, help me out, you

have the

> information?

>

> Passaglia

> (Jordan 8, RSS, Mikey almost 4)

>

> In a message dated 12/3/01 1:01:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> magicrss@m... writes:

>

> > My memory (which I am sure will be corrected when Dr. H responds

to

> > Jodi) from my convention notes is that UNTREATED RSS children

> > are " appearing " to have a higher incidence of Type 2 Diabetes as

> > adults. She showed graphs comparing UNTREATED (meaning no GH)

RSS

> > against TREATED RSS patients. Basically, what it showed was that

as

> > an untreated RSS patient grew up, their " weight " became average

but

> > their heights was still low. Hence, their " weight for height "

> > proportion was TOO high - meaning UNTREATED RSS patients actually

> > were overweight (isn't that ironic with how much time we spend

> > getting them to eat as kids). The TREATED RSS patients, those on

GH,

> > grew to a greater height, and hence their adult weight for height

was

> > in proportion, and thus a less likely chance for Type 2 Diabetes.

> >

> > Salem

> >

>

December 3, 2001

I may be mixing things up. I know she showed that the untreated kids

had a higher weight-for-height proportion than the treated kids

(e.g., untreated ended up being heavier). But I can't remember about

the Type II.

> -

>

> I thought Dr. Harbison's study showed that 2 out of 6 of her

children

> in the 4th phase have developed Type II diabetes. These would be

children

> that are treated with GH. I could be remembering wrong. But also,

I thought

> a side effect of GH is higher insulin levels. But, however, go

back to

> normal within a year of no GH treatment. Debbie, help me out, you

have the

> information?

>

> Passaglia

> (Jordan 8, RSS, Mikey almost 4)

>

> In a message dated 12/3/01 1:01:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> magicrss@m... writes:

>

> > My memory (which I am sure will be corrected when Dr. H responds

to

> > Jodi) from my convention notes is that UNTREATED RSS children

> > are " appearing " to have a higher incidence of Type 2 Diabetes as

> > adults. She showed graphs comparing UNTREATED (meaning no GH)

RSS

> > against TREATED RSS patients. Basically, what it showed was that

as

> > an untreated RSS patient grew up, their " weight " became average

but

> > their heights was still low. Hence, their " weight for height "

> > proportion was TOO high - meaning UNTREATED RSS patients actually

> > were overweight (isn't that ironic with how much time we spend

> > getting them to eat as kids). The TREATED RSS patients, those on

GH,

> > grew to a greater height, and hence their adult weight for height

was

> > in proportion, and thus a less likely chance for Type 2 Diabetes.

> >

> > Salem

> >

>

December 4, 2001

,

Is this correct? Perhaps new studies have been done on insulin levels

and GH, but I was always under the impression that insulin levels can

be higher whilst on GH. I may be wrong, maybe someone on the list can

clarify this. Also are you referring to Type 2 diabetics developing

in untreated RSS children as adults, I would have thought that not

enough treated RSS children had reached adult age yet for a

comparision to be done.

ne

> > I don't remember why, but I do know that Dr. Harbison said this

at

> the

> > convention in July. She said that the smaller the baby at birth,

> such as

> > IUGR and SGA babies, the higher the risk for Type 2 diabetes and

> for heart

> > disease. She did explain it to me after that, but I forgot why.

> I'll ask

> > her again.

> >

> > Jodi

> >

> > >From: jebarker@e...

> > >Reply-To: RSS-Support@y...

> > >To: RSS-Support@y...

> > >Subject: RSS & diabetes, heart disease

> > >Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:57:08 -0000

> > >

> > >Could someone explain to me why our RSS kids are prone to

diabetes

> > >and heart disease later in life and how we know this?

> > >

> > >Thanks,

> > >

> > >Colin (RSS) & Hayden - who will be one next week!

> > >

December 4, 2001

Hi

I have had to miss a few e-mails lately as I haven't had the time to read

them all so forgive me if I have missed something

Has there actually been a study done on RSS children/adults being more

suseptable to heart disease and diabetis.I thought that the only study

performed was on low birth weight babies who were found to be of higher

incidence of these conditions and this was thought to be because a low birth

weight baby is more likely to be born to a mother/family in a 'low social

economic group'[therefore more likely to smoke,poor diet,more likely to

abuse alcohol etc]The child could then have a simular sort of lifestyle and

consequently be of greater risk.As RSS children are of low birth weight they

are grouped with all the others and therefore given a false risk!Does that

make any sense at all !!!!Let me know if I have got it all wrong

Joanne

RSS & diabetes, heart disease

> > > >Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:57:08 -0000

> > > >

> > > >Could someone explain to me why our RSS kids are prone to

> diabetes

> > > >and heart disease later in life and how we know this?

> > > >

> > > >Thanks,

> > > >

> > > >Colin (RSS) & Hayden - who will be one next week!

> > > >

December 4, 2001