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From my perspective as a lifelong fat kid then fat guy......

When I had WLS in January of 2000, I weighed 456. At that time my Dr

said rather casually that he wouldn’t be surprised if somewhere I got

down below 200 lbs. At that time, 200 seemed like a far off never-never

land.

Well, days turned into weeks and weeks turned into months as they say,

and here I am at 204 feeling unfulfilled. 204 was my weight in 7th

grade.

The most recent 10 lbs lost were lost slower than at any time before.

Do I feel disappointed that I haven’t gotten under 200 faster? Not at

all. But there is a certain emptiness in knowing that each day goes by

that I'm more " normal " and that everyone around me sees me that way.

Fewer and fewer comment on the amazing road I've traveled. I see fewer

and fewer friends who I can " surprise " because they don’t recognize me.

I think the old saying that its not the destination but the trip that is

important. For me with regard to WLS nothing could me more accurate.

Adjusting to being " normal " and blending in the crowd is the next step.

Re: ultimate goal

Dear Doug,

I'm curious though if your level of satisfaction may be because

you're a man. Also I read that some of the ladies who had obesity

problems their entire life and lets say, being below 200 was the

smallest they'd ever been, were very satisfied with the results

whereas some of the women who were thin into their 20's and gained a

lot of weight after marriage, children etc expected to get back down

to that thin self from back when and were not satisfied until that

happened. I was just curious of the method goals were set by. Some

have doctors that state goals, others set their own goals and then

there are those who had a goal to be healthy and if they were still a

little on the heavy side as long as they weren't sick or encumbered

by that then they felt successful. I would read posts and the writer

would state " I'm 15 pounds from goal " or " I'm 10 pounds under my goal

weight " and not understand what goal they meant. I set goals through

my whole losing process too. First 100 pounds, then half my weight,

then I wanted to weigh 155 since that was a good weight for me for

awhile, then 135 since that's what I weighed when I got married, now

126 since I managed to reach that once since WLS and it felt good so

I want to weigh that again. So for that goal I've got to lose 8

pounds. I think goals are wonderful and helpful but there are so

many different reasons for goals I just thought it'd be nice to know

whence they came from. Personal or doctor.

I agree though, no matter the weight or size, health is the most

important aspect.

Best Regards,

Ramoth

> Hi -- its been a while but I thought I should reply to the

definition of what

> the ultimate goal is...I started at 500 lbs and now weigh 199

lbs..never

> thought I would be under 200 lbs....My Docs goal weight for me was

to lose

> 250 lbs.....been there done that. But I think that there is too

many people

> out here who dwell on the numbers....They compare weight loss and

are

> discouraged if they dont equal or better someone else's. They worry

about

> fitting into a size 10-12 as others can...I think that the ultimate

goal is

> and sometimes it seems to be forgotten, is the goal of good HEALTH

and a

> happier and longer life to enjoy the new activities. I feel

fantastic and in

> Good Health and I dont care if I gain back 20 -30 lbs as long as

I'm

> Healthier and happier than I was 2 years ago.

> Doug

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From my perspective as a lifelong fat kid then fat guy......

When I had WLS in January of 2000, I weighed 456. At that time my Dr

said rather casually that he wouldn’t be surprised if somewhere I got

down below 200 lbs. At that time, 200 seemed like a far off never-never

land.

Well, days turned into weeks and weeks turned into months as they say,

and here I am at 204 feeling unfulfilled. 204 was my weight in 7th

grade.

The most recent 10 lbs lost were lost slower than at any time before.

Do I feel disappointed that I haven’t gotten under 200 faster? Not at

all. But there is a certain emptiness in knowing that each day goes by

that I'm more " normal " and that everyone around me sees me that way.

Fewer and fewer comment on the amazing road I've traveled. I see fewer

and fewer friends who I can " surprise " because they don’t recognize me.

I think the old saying that its not the destination but the trip that is

important. For me with regard to WLS nothing could me more accurate.

Adjusting to being " normal " and blending in the crowd is the next step.

Re: ultimate goal

Dear Doug,

I'm curious though if your level of satisfaction may be because

you're a man. Also I read that some of the ladies who had obesity

problems their entire life and lets say, being below 200 was the

smallest they'd ever been, were very satisfied with the results

whereas some of the women who were thin into their 20's and gained a

lot of weight after marriage, children etc expected to get back down

to that thin self from back when and were not satisfied until that

happened. I was just curious of the method goals were set by. Some

have doctors that state goals, others set their own goals and then

there are those who had a goal to be healthy and if they were still a

little on the heavy side as long as they weren't sick or encumbered

by that then they felt successful. I would read posts and the writer

would state " I'm 15 pounds from goal " or " I'm 10 pounds under my goal

weight " and not understand what goal they meant. I set goals through

my whole losing process too. First 100 pounds, then half my weight,

then I wanted to weigh 155 since that was a good weight for me for

awhile, then 135 since that's what I weighed when I got married, now

126 since I managed to reach that once since WLS and it felt good so

I want to weigh that again. So for that goal I've got to lose 8

pounds. I think goals are wonderful and helpful but there are so

many different reasons for goals I just thought it'd be nice to know

whence they came from. Personal or doctor.

I agree though, no matter the weight or size, health is the most

important aspect.

Best Regards,

Ramoth

> Hi -- its been a while but I thought I should reply to the

definition of what

> the ultimate goal is...I started at 500 lbs and now weigh 199

lbs..never

> thought I would be under 200 lbs....My Docs goal weight for me was

to lose

> 250 lbs.....been there done that. But I think that there is too

many people

> out here who dwell on the numbers....They compare weight loss and

are

> discouraged if they dont equal or better someone else's. They worry

about

> fitting into a size 10-12 as others can...I think that the ultimate

goal is

> and sometimes it seems to be forgotten, is the goal of good HEALTH

and a

> happier and longer life to enjoy the new activities. I feel

fantastic and in

> Good Health and I dont care if I gain back 20 -30 lbs as long as

I'm

> Healthier and happier than I was 2 years ago.

> Doug

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From my perspective as a lifelong fat kid then fat guy......

When I had WLS in January of 2000, I weighed 456. At that time my Dr

said rather casually that he wouldn’t be surprised if somewhere I got

down below 200 lbs. At that time, 200 seemed like a far off never-never

land.

Well, days turned into weeks and weeks turned into months as they say,

and here I am at 204 feeling unfulfilled. 204 was my weight in 7th

grade.

The most recent 10 lbs lost were lost slower than at any time before.

Do I feel disappointed that I haven’t gotten under 200 faster? Not at

all. But there is a certain emptiness in knowing that each day goes by

that I'm more " normal " and that everyone around me sees me that way.

Fewer and fewer comment on the amazing road I've traveled. I see fewer

and fewer friends who I can " surprise " because they don’t recognize me.

I think the old saying that its not the destination but the trip that is

important. For me with regard to WLS nothing could me more accurate.

Adjusting to being " normal " and blending in the crowd is the next step.

Re: ultimate goal

Dear Doug,

I'm curious though if your level of satisfaction may be because

you're a man. Also I read that some of the ladies who had obesity

problems their entire life and lets say, being below 200 was the

smallest they'd ever been, were very satisfied with the results

whereas some of the women who were thin into their 20's and gained a

lot of weight after marriage, children etc expected to get back down

to that thin self from back when and were not satisfied until that

happened. I was just curious of the method goals were set by. Some

have doctors that state goals, others set their own goals and then

there are those who had a goal to be healthy and if they were still a

little on the heavy side as long as they weren't sick or encumbered

by that then they felt successful. I would read posts and the writer

would state " I'm 15 pounds from goal " or " I'm 10 pounds under my goal

weight " and not understand what goal they meant. I set goals through

my whole losing process too. First 100 pounds, then half my weight,

then I wanted to weigh 155 since that was a good weight for me for

awhile, then 135 since that's what I weighed when I got married, now

126 since I managed to reach that once since WLS and it felt good so

I want to weigh that again. So for that goal I've got to lose 8

pounds. I think goals are wonderful and helpful but there are so

many different reasons for goals I just thought it'd be nice to know

whence they came from. Personal or doctor.

I agree though, no matter the weight or size, health is the most

important aspect.

Best Regards,

Ramoth

> Hi -- its been a while but I thought I should reply to the

definition of what

> the ultimate goal is...I started at 500 lbs and now weigh 199

lbs..never

> thought I would be under 200 lbs....My Docs goal weight for me was

to lose

> 250 lbs.....been there done that. But I think that there is too

many people

> out here who dwell on the numbers....They compare weight loss and

are

> discouraged if they dont equal or better someone else's. They worry

about

> fitting into a size 10-12 as others can...I think that the ultimate

goal is

> and sometimes it seems to be forgotten, is the goal of good HEALTH

and a

> happier and longer life to enjoy the new activities. I feel

fantastic and in

> Good Health and I dont care if I gain back 20 -30 lbs as long as

I'm

> Healthier and happier than I was 2 years ago.

> Doug

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I think goals are sneaky shifty things, constantly

changing. I started at 375 lbs, size 34. My first

goal was to become mobile and get relief from that

neverending, all consuming, wake up in the morning

thinking about it, planning my day around it hunger.

Right after surgery when people asked me what my goal

was I didn't really have a clue, just wanted to be

healthy. When pushed for a number, I would say I

would be thrilled to be a size 16, but couldn't

imagine that as a reasonable goal. Now at size 13,

I'm happy and healthy but still need goals. Now it is

to become toned. I think goals are good as long as

they don't become consuming. I don't wake up in the

morning thinking about it. I guess my biggest goal is

to live a normal non-obsessing life. Whew, now that's

a biggie.

Judy in Austin

--- Ramoth wrote:

> Dear Doug,

> I'm curious though if your level of satisfaction may

> be because

> you're a man. Also I read that some of the ladies

> who had obesity

> problems their entire life and lets say, being below

> 200 was the

> smallest they'd ever been, were very satisfied with

> the results

> whereas some of the women who were thin into their

> 20's and gained a

> lot of weight after marriage, children etc expected

> to get back down

> to that thin self from back when and were not

> satisfied until that

> happened. I was just curious of the method goals

> were set by. Some

> have doctors that state goals, others set their own

> goals and then

> there are those who had a goal to be healthy and if

> they were still a

> little on the heavy side as long as they weren't

> sick or encumbered

> by that then they felt successful. I would read

> posts and the writer

> would state " I'm 15 pounds from goal " or " I'm 10

> pounds under my goal

> weight " and not understand what goal they meant. I

> set goals through

> my whole losing process too. First 100 pounds, then

> half my weight,

> then I wanted to weigh 155 since that was a good

> weight for me for

> awhile, then 135 since that's what I weighed when I

> got married, now

> 126 since I managed to reach that once since WLS and

> it felt good so

> I want to weigh that again. So for that goal I've

> got to lose 8

> pounds. I think goals are wonderful and helpful but

> there are so

> many different reasons for goals I just thought it'd

> be nice to know

> whence they came from. Personal or doctor.

> I agree though, no matter the weight or size, health

> is the most

> important aspect.

> Best Regards,

> Ramoth

>

> > Hi -- its been a while but I thought I should

> reply to the

> definition of what

> > the ultimate goal is...I started at 500 lbs and

> now weigh 199

> lbs..never

> > thought I would be under 200 lbs....My Docs goal

> weight for me was

> to lose

> > 250 lbs.....been there done that. But I think that

> there is too

> many people

> > out here who dwell on the numbers....They compare

> weight loss and

> are

> > discouraged if they dont equal or better someone

> else's. They worry

> about

> > fitting into a size 10-12 as others can...I think

> that the ultimate

> goal is

> > and sometimes it seems to be forgotten, is the

> goal of good HEALTH

> and a

> > happier and longer life to enjoy the new

> activities. I feel

> fantastic and in

> > Good Health and I dont care if I gain back 20 -30

> lbs as long as

> I'm

> > Healthier and happier than I was 2 years ago.

> > Doug

>

>

> Homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe:

> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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I think goals are sneaky shifty things, constantly

changing. I started at 375 lbs, size 34. My first

goal was to become mobile and get relief from that

neverending, all consuming, wake up in the morning

thinking about it, planning my day around it hunger.

Right after surgery when people asked me what my goal

was I didn't really have a clue, just wanted to be

healthy. When pushed for a number, I would say I

would be thrilled to be a size 16, but couldn't

imagine that as a reasonable goal. Now at size 13,

I'm happy and healthy but still need goals. Now it is

to become toned. I think goals are good as long as

they don't become consuming. I don't wake up in the

morning thinking about it. I guess my biggest goal is

to live a normal non-obsessing life. Whew, now that's

a biggie.

Judy in Austin

--- Ramoth wrote:

> Dear Doug,

> I'm curious though if your level of satisfaction may

> be because

> you're a man. Also I read that some of the ladies

> who had obesity

> problems their entire life and lets say, being below

> 200 was the

> smallest they'd ever been, were very satisfied with

> the results

> whereas some of the women who were thin into their

> 20's and gained a

> lot of weight after marriage, children etc expected

> to get back down

> to that thin self from back when and were not

> satisfied until that

> happened. I was just curious of the method goals

> were set by. Some

> have doctors that state goals, others set their own

> goals and then

> there are those who had a goal to be healthy and if

> they were still a

> little on the heavy side as long as they weren't

> sick or encumbered

> by that then they felt successful. I would read

> posts and the writer

> would state " I'm 15 pounds from goal " or " I'm 10

> pounds under my goal

> weight " and not understand what goal they meant. I

> set goals through

> my whole losing process too. First 100 pounds, then

> half my weight,

> then I wanted to weigh 155 since that was a good

> weight for me for

> awhile, then 135 since that's what I weighed when I

> got married, now

> 126 since I managed to reach that once since WLS and

> it felt good so

> I want to weigh that again. So for that goal I've

> got to lose 8

> pounds. I think goals are wonderful and helpful but

> there are so

> many different reasons for goals I just thought it'd

> be nice to know

> whence they came from. Personal or doctor.

> I agree though, no matter the weight or size, health

> is the most

> important aspect.

> Best Regards,

> Ramoth

>

> > Hi -- its been a while but I thought I should

> reply to the

> definition of what

> > the ultimate goal is...I started at 500 lbs and

> now weigh 199

> lbs..never

> > thought I would be under 200 lbs....My Docs goal

> weight for me was

> to lose

> > 250 lbs.....been there done that. But I think that

> there is too

> many people

> > out here who dwell on the numbers....They compare

> weight loss and

> are

> > discouraged if they dont equal or better someone

> else's. They worry

> about

> > fitting into a size 10-12 as others can...I think

> that the ultimate

> goal is

> > and sometimes it seems to be forgotten, is the

> goal of good HEALTH

> and a

> > happier and longer life to enjoy the new

> activities. I feel

> fantastic and in

> > Good Health and I dont care if I gain back 20 -30

> lbs as long as

> I'm

> > Healthier and happier than I was 2 years ago.

> > Doug

>

>

> Homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe:

> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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I think goals are sneaky shifty things, constantly

changing. I started at 375 lbs, size 34. My first

goal was to become mobile and get relief from that

neverending, all consuming, wake up in the morning

thinking about it, planning my day around it hunger.

Right after surgery when people asked me what my goal

was I didn't really have a clue, just wanted to be

healthy. When pushed for a number, I would say I

would be thrilled to be a size 16, but couldn't

imagine that as a reasonable goal. Now at size 13,

I'm happy and healthy but still need goals. Now it is

to become toned. I think goals are good as long as

they don't become consuming. I don't wake up in the

morning thinking about it. I guess my biggest goal is

to live a normal non-obsessing life. Whew, now that's

a biggie.

Judy in Austin

--- Ramoth wrote:

> Dear Doug,

> I'm curious though if your level of satisfaction may

> be because

> you're a man. Also I read that some of the ladies

> who had obesity

> problems their entire life and lets say, being below

> 200 was the

> smallest they'd ever been, were very satisfied with

> the results

> whereas some of the women who were thin into their

> 20's and gained a

> lot of weight after marriage, children etc expected

> to get back down

> to that thin self from back when and were not

> satisfied until that

> happened. I was just curious of the method goals

> were set by. Some

> have doctors that state goals, others set their own

> goals and then

> there are those who had a goal to be healthy and if

> they were still a

> little on the heavy side as long as they weren't

> sick or encumbered

> by that then they felt successful. I would read

> posts and the writer

> would state " I'm 15 pounds from goal " or " I'm 10

> pounds under my goal

> weight " and not understand what goal they meant. I

> set goals through

> my whole losing process too. First 100 pounds, then

> half my weight,

> then I wanted to weigh 155 since that was a good

> weight for me for

> awhile, then 135 since that's what I weighed when I

> got married, now

> 126 since I managed to reach that once since WLS and

> it felt good so

> I want to weigh that again. So for that goal I've

> got to lose 8

> pounds. I think goals are wonderful and helpful but

> there are so

> many different reasons for goals I just thought it'd

> be nice to know

> whence they came from. Personal or doctor.

> I agree though, no matter the weight or size, health

> is the most

> important aspect.

> Best Regards,

> Ramoth

>

> > Hi -- its been a while but I thought I should

> reply to the

> definition of what

> > the ultimate goal is...I started at 500 lbs and

> now weigh 199

> lbs..never

> > thought I would be under 200 lbs....My Docs goal

> weight for me was

> to lose

> > 250 lbs.....been there done that. But I think that

> there is too

> many people

> > out here who dwell on the numbers....They compare

> weight loss and

> are

> > discouraged if they dont equal or better someone

> else's. They worry

> about

> > fitting into a size 10-12 as others can...I think

> that the ultimate

> goal is

> > and sometimes it seems to be forgotten, is the

> goal of good HEALTH

> and a

> > happier and longer life to enjoy the new

> activities. I feel

> fantastic and in

> > Good Health and I dont care if I gain back 20 -30

> lbs as long as

> I'm

> > Healthier and happier than I was 2 years ago.

> > Doug

>

>

> Homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe:

> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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that's so true, I miss the trip too. Being here is

great, but I do miss the excitement of that first

year.

judy in austin

--- Joe C wrote:

> From my perspective as a lifelong fat kid then fat

> guy......

>

> When I had WLS in January of 2000, I weighed 456.

> At that time my Dr

> said rather casually that he wouldn’t be surprised

> if somewhere I got

> down below 200 lbs. At that time, 200 seemed like a

> far off never-never

> land.

> Well, days turned into weeks and weeks turned into

> months as they say,

> and here I am at 204 feeling unfulfilled. 204 was my

> weight in 7th

> grade.

> The most recent 10 lbs lost were lost slower than at

> any time before.

> Do I feel disappointed that I haven’t gotten under

> 200 faster? Not at

> all. But there is a certain emptiness in knowing

> that each day goes by

> that I'm more " normal " and that everyone around me

> sees me that way.

> Fewer and fewer comment on the amazing road I've

> traveled. I see fewer

> and fewer friends who I can " surprise " because they

> don’t recognize me.

> I think the old saying that its not the destination

> but the trip that is

> important. For me with regard to WLS nothing could

> me more accurate.

> Adjusting to being " normal " and blending in the

> crowd is the next step.

>

>

> Re: ultimate goal

>

> Dear Doug,

> I'm curious though if your level of satisfaction may

> be because

> you're a man. Also I read that some of the ladies

> who had obesity

> problems their entire life and lets say, being below

> 200 was the

> smallest they'd ever been, were very satisfied with

> the results

> whereas some of the women who were thin into their

> 20's and gained a

> lot of weight after marriage, children etc expected

> to get back down

> to that thin self from back when and were not

> satisfied until that

> happened. I was just curious of the method goals

> were set by. Some

> have doctors that state goals, others set their own

> goals and then

> there are those who had a goal to be healthy and if

> they were still a

> little on the heavy side as long as they weren't

> sick or encumbered

> by that then they felt successful. I would read

> posts and the writer

> would state " I'm 15 pounds from goal " or " I'm 10

> pounds under my goal

> weight " and not understand what goal they meant. I

> set goals through

> my whole losing process too. First 100 pounds, then

> half my weight,

> then I wanted to weigh 155 since that was a good

> weight for me for

> awhile, then 135 since that's what I weighed when I

> got married, now

> 126 since I managed to reach that once since WLS and

> it felt good so

> I want to weigh that again. So for that goal I've

> got to lose 8

> pounds. I think goals are wonderful and helpful but

> there are so

> many different reasons for goals I just thought it'd

> be nice to know

> whence they came from. Personal or doctor.

> I agree though, no matter the weight or size, health

> is the most

> important aspect.

> Best Regards,

> Ramoth

>

> > Hi -- its been a while but I thought I should

> reply to the

> definition of what

> > the ultimate goal is...I started at 500 lbs and

> now weigh 199

> lbs..never

> > thought I would be under 200 lbs....My Docs goal

> weight for me was

> to lose

> > 250 lbs.....been there done that. But I think that

> there is too

> many people

> > out here who dwell on the numbers....They compare

> weight loss and

> are

> > discouraged if they dont equal or better someone

> else's. They worry

> about

> > fitting into a size 10-12 as others can...I think

> that the ultimate

> goal is

> > and sometimes it seems to be forgotten, is the

> goal of good HEALTH

> and a

> > happier and longer life to enjoy the new

> activities. I feel

> fantastic and in

> > Good Health and I dont care if I gain back 20 -30

> lbs as long as

> I'm

> > Healthier and happier than I was 2 years ago.

> > Doug

>

>

> Homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe:

> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

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Joe, this is exactly my feelings. You have put it into

words so eloquently.

The kudos/ego strokes stop because everyone else has

seen the results, no dramatic numbers to report on

these lists anymore, no dramatic sizes to post, same

stuff, day in and day out.

What do we do when the everydayness sets in, when we

really no longer have to strive for weight loss, for

that all mighty scale to show a decrease. How do we

continue on with our own normalcy? Especially since I

have NEVER been normal in size or weight. I have never

experienced this, it is all new to me.

Just thinking out loud

Rita in Vermont

Open RNY 3/31/94 463 lbs

AS of 10/10/01 185 lbs and bouncing up and down bout 7

lbs

--- Joe C wrote:

> From my perspective as a lifelong fat kid then fat

> guy......

>

> When I had WLS in January of 2000, I weighed 456.

> At that time my Dr

> said rather casually that he wouldn’t be surprised

> if somewhere I got

> down below 200 lbs. At that time, 200 seemed like a

> far off never-never

> land.

> Well, days turned into weeks and weeks turned into

> months as they say,

> and here I am at 204 feeling unfulfilled. 204 was my

> weight in 7th

> grade.

> The most recent 10 lbs lost were lost slower than at

> any time before.

> Do I feel disappointed that I haven’t gotten under

> 200 faster? Not at

> all. But there is a certain emptiness in knowing

> that each day goes by

> that I'm more " normal " and that everyone around me

> sees me that way.

> Fewer and fewer comment on the amazing road I've

> traveled. I see fewer

> and fewer friends who I can " surprise " because they

> don’t recognize me.

> I think the old saying that its not the destination

> but the trip that is

> important. For me with regard to WLS nothing could

> me more accurate.

> Adjusting to being " normal " and blending in the

> crowd is the next step.

>

>

>

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>What do we do when the everydayness sets in, when we

>really no longer have to strive for weight loss, for

>that all mighty scale to show a decrease. How do we

>continue on with our own normalcy?

My initial knee-jerk reaction is:

Well, there's always chocolate!

But wait! That’s how we got " there " in the first place.

Seriously, with all the insurance companies and physicians wanting

pre-op WLS patients to see a " Mental Health Professional " before

surgery, I'm not so sure that the group as a whole would be better

served to emphasize post-op life. (not the food-eating issues, but the

" social adaptation " issues)

Several weeks ago, I dropped my car at the dealership for some work and

was standing outside waiting for my brother to pick me up. As I got

into his car, his wife said, " We didn’t see you at first standing

outside, you look so normal. "

Gee thanks, just what I needed.

Maybe a distinctive piercing would prevent me from looking so " normal. "

J

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>What do we do when the everydayness sets in, when we

>really no longer have to strive for weight loss, for

>that all mighty scale to show a decrease. How do we

>continue on with our own normalcy?

My initial knee-jerk reaction is:

Well, there's always chocolate!

But wait! That’s how we got " there " in the first place.

Seriously, with all the insurance companies and physicians wanting

pre-op WLS patients to see a " Mental Health Professional " before

surgery, I'm not so sure that the group as a whole would be better

served to emphasize post-op life. (not the food-eating issues, but the

" social adaptation " issues)

Several weeks ago, I dropped my car at the dealership for some work and

was standing outside waiting for my brother to pick me up. As I got

into his car, his wife said, " We didn’t see you at first standing

outside, you look so normal. "

Gee thanks, just what I needed.

Maybe a distinctive piercing would prevent me from looking so " normal. "

J

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> <Rita wrote:>

> >What do we do when the everydayness sets in, when

> we

> >really no longer have to strive for weight loss,

> for

> >that all mighty scale to show a decrease. How do we

> >continue on with our own normalcy?

>

--- Joe C wrote:

> My initial knee-jerk reaction is:

>

> Well, there's always chocolate!

>

> But wait! That’s how we got " there " in the first

> place.

>

>

Yep, I was thinking that.....LOL. Great minds think

alike, right ????

Rita in Vermont

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> <Rita wrote:>

> >What do we do when the everydayness sets in, when

> we

> >really no longer have to strive for weight loss,

> for

> >that all mighty scale to show a decrease. How do we

> >continue on with our own normalcy?

>

--- Joe C wrote:

> My initial knee-jerk reaction is:

>

> Well, there's always chocolate!

>

> But wait! That’s how we got " there " in the first

> place.

>

>

Yep, I was thinking that.....LOL. Great minds think

alike, right ????

Rita in Vermont

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WooHoooo! Piercings might just be the thing. And as

for chocolate, the best birthday card I ever received

was from my sister. It read, " There are two kinds of

women in this world, those that love chocolate

......... and bitches! "

Happy Friday!

judy in austin

--- Joe C wrote:

>

> >What do we do when the everydayness sets in, when

> we

> >really no longer have to strive for weight loss,

> for

> >that all mighty scale to show a decrease. How do we

> >continue on with our own normalcy?

>

> My initial knee-jerk reaction is:

>

> Well, there's always chocolate!

>

> But wait! That’s how we got " there " in the first

> place.

>

> Seriously, with all the insurance companies and

> physicians wanting

> pre-op WLS patients to see a " Mental Health

> Professional " before

> surgery, I'm not so sure that the group as a whole

> would be better

> served to emphasize post-op life. (not the

> food-eating issues, but the

> " social adaptation " issues)

>

> Several weeks ago, I dropped my car at the

> dealership for some work and

> was standing outside waiting for my brother to pick

> me up. As I got

> into his car, his wife said, " We didn’t see you at

> first standing

> outside, you look so normal. "

> Gee thanks, just what I needed.

> Maybe a distinctive piercing would prevent me from

> looking so " normal. "

>

> J

>

>

>

>

> Homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe:

> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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WooHoooo! Piercings might just be the thing. And as

for chocolate, the best birthday card I ever received

was from my sister. It read, " There are two kinds of

women in this world, those that love chocolate

......... and bitches! "

Happy Friday!

judy in austin

--- Joe C wrote:

>

> >What do we do when the everydayness sets in, when

> we

> >really no longer have to strive for weight loss,

> for

> >that all mighty scale to show a decrease. How do we

> >continue on with our own normalcy?

>

> My initial knee-jerk reaction is:

>

> Well, there's always chocolate!

>

> But wait! That’s how we got " there " in the first

> place.

>

> Seriously, with all the insurance companies and

> physicians wanting

> pre-op WLS patients to see a " Mental Health

> Professional " before

> surgery, I'm not so sure that the group as a whole

> would be better

> served to emphasize post-op life. (not the

> food-eating issues, but the

> " social adaptation " issues)

>

> Several weeks ago, I dropped my car at the

> dealership for some work and

> was standing outside waiting for my brother to pick

> me up. As I got

> into his car, his wife said, " We didn’t see you at

> first standing

> outside, you look so normal. "

> Gee thanks, just what I needed.

> Maybe a distinctive piercing would prevent me from

> looking so " normal. "

>

> J

>

>

>

>

> Homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe:

> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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Very well put and well taken. My local support group

is mostly newbies and being there for them keeps me

very grounded.

j in a

--- shrinkin2000@... wrote:

> Hey, Gang...just wanted to jump in here and get a

> little more

> serious. This is my $.02 worth for whatever that

> may be worth. I

> feel that when that " everydayness " sets in it's time

> to start moving

> outside yourself. Give back the experience that you

> have gained from

> going through a live altering process like this.

> Hold someone elses

> hand while they travel this less worn path. You

> know that love and

> teaching are the two things in life that you get as

> much or more from

> the more you give away.

>

> Love to all,

> Reba

>

>

> > > My initial knee-jerk reaction is:

> > >

> > > Well, there's always chocolate!

> > >

> > > But wait! That's how we got " there " in the

> first

> > > place.

> > >

> > >

> > Yep, I was thinking that.....LOL. Great minds

> think

> > alike, right ????

> >

> > Rita in Vermont

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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In a message dated 10/26/01 6:42:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

joetul@... writes:

> . I see fewer

> and fewer friends who I can " surprise " because they don’t recognize me.

>

I can relate to that. I'm dreading the day when people actually recognize me

because my lower weight has been stable for so long. Where's the drama in

that?! I'm a " drama queen " , if I'm not losing and I stay thin, then what's

fun and novel about that?! I need a new thing to be dramatic about!

Marcia

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My crazy wife told me the only places I OUGHT to be pierced would not be

visible in public!

OUCH!

RE: Re: ultimate goal

WooHoooo! Piercings might just be the thing. And as

for chocolate, the best birthday card I ever received

was from my sister. It read, " There are two kinds of

women in this world, those that love chocolate

......... and bitches! "

Happy Friday!

judy in austin

--- Joe C wrote:

>

> >What do we do when the everydayness sets in, when

> we

> >really no longer have to strive for weight loss,

> for

> >that all mighty scale to show a decrease. How do we

> >continue on with our own normalcy?

>

> My initial knee-jerk reaction is:

>

> Well, there's always chocolate!

>

> But wait! That’s how we got " there " in the first

> place.

>

> Seriously, with all the insurance companies and

> physicians wanting

> pre-op WLS patients to see a " Mental Health

> Professional " before

> surgery, I'm not so sure that the group as a whole

> would be better

> served to emphasize post-op life. (not the

> food-eating issues, but the

> " social adaptation " issues)

>

> Several weeks ago, I dropped my car at the

> dealership for some work and

> was standing outside waiting for my brother to pick

> me up. As I got

> into his car, his wife said, " We didn’t see you at

> first standing

> outside, you look so normal. "

> Gee thanks, just what I needed.

> Maybe a distinctive piercing would prevent me from

> looking so " normal. "

>

> J

>

>

>

>

> Homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe:

> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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My crazy wife told me the only places I OUGHT to be pierced would not be

visible in public!

OUCH!

RE: Re: ultimate goal

WooHoooo! Piercings might just be the thing. And as

for chocolate, the best birthday card I ever received

was from my sister. It read, " There are two kinds of

women in this world, those that love chocolate

......... and bitches! "

Happy Friday!

judy in austin

--- Joe C wrote:

>

> >What do we do when the everydayness sets in, when

> we

> >really no longer have to strive for weight loss,

> for

> >that all mighty scale to show a decrease. How do we

> >continue on with our own normalcy?

>

> My initial knee-jerk reaction is:

>

> Well, there's always chocolate!

>

> But wait! That’s how we got " there " in the first

> place.

>

> Seriously, with all the insurance companies and

> physicians wanting

> pre-op WLS patients to see a " Mental Health

> Professional " before

> surgery, I'm not so sure that the group as a whole

> would be better

> served to emphasize post-op life. (not the

> food-eating issues, but the

> " social adaptation " issues)

>

> Several weeks ago, I dropped my car at the

> dealership for some work and

> was standing outside waiting for my brother to pick

> me up. As I got

> into his car, his wife said, " We didn’t see you at

> first standing

> outside, you look so normal. "

> Gee thanks, just what I needed.

> Maybe a distinctive piercing would prevent me from

> looking so " normal. "

>

> J

>

>

>

>

> Homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe:

> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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My crazy wife told me the only places I OUGHT to be pierced would not be

visible in public!

OUCH!

RE: Re: ultimate goal

WooHoooo! Piercings might just be the thing. And as

for chocolate, the best birthday card I ever received

was from my sister. It read, " There are two kinds of

women in this world, those that love chocolate

......... and bitches! "

Happy Friday!

judy in austin

--- Joe C wrote:

>

> >What do we do when the everydayness sets in, when

> we

> >really no longer have to strive for weight loss,

> for

> >that all mighty scale to show a decrease. How do we

> >continue on with our own normalcy?

>

> My initial knee-jerk reaction is:

>

> Well, there's always chocolate!

>

> But wait! That’s how we got " there " in the first

> place.

>

> Seriously, with all the insurance companies and

> physicians wanting

> pre-op WLS patients to see a " Mental Health

> Professional " before

> surgery, I'm not so sure that the group as a whole

> would be better

> served to emphasize post-op life. (not the

> food-eating issues, but the

> " social adaptation " issues)

>

> Several weeks ago, I dropped my car at the

> dealership for some work and

> was standing outside waiting for my brother to pick

> me up. As I got

> into his car, his wife said, " We didn’t see you at

> first standing

> outside, you look so normal. "

> Gee thanks, just what I needed.

> Maybe a distinctive piercing would prevent me from

> looking so " normal. "

>

> J

>

>

>

>

> Homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe:

> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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Chocolate PS100 covers ALL emergencies. Like my former cigarettes. Good to

head of a crisis (I lit up a PS100 immediately following our EQ here last

Feb); while nervous or waiting; when I start the car; before a meal; when

annoyed with someone; when pleased with someone; relaxing with friends;

relaxing without friends; before, during or after shopping; when sad; when

happy.

The one accessory for EVERY ensemble! And yep, I thought the SAME thing as

soon as I read that!

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

For info on PayPal, click this link:

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RE: Re: ultimate goal

>

>

> > <Rita wrote:>

> > >What do we do when the everydayness sets in, when

> > we

> > >really no longer have to strive for weight loss,

> > for

> > >that all mighty scale to show a decrease. How do we

> > >continue on with our own normalcy?

> >

> --- Joe C wrote:

> > My initial knee-jerk reaction is:

> >

> > Well, there's always chocolate!

> >

> > But wait! That's how we got " there " in the first

> > place.

> >

> >

> Yep, I was thinking that.....LOL. Great minds think

> alike, right ????

>

> Rita in Vermont

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Chocolate PS100 covers ALL emergencies. Like my former cigarettes. Good to

head of a crisis (I lit up a PS100 immediately following our EQ here last

Feb); while nervous or waiting; when I start the car; before a meal; when

annoyed with someone; when pleased with someone; relaxing with friends;

relaxing without friends; before, during or after shopping; when sad; when

happy.

The one accessory for EVERY ensemble! And yep, I thought the SAME thing as

soon as I read that!

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

For info on PayPal, click this link:

https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com

RE: Re: ultimate goal

>

>

> > <Rita wrote:>

> > >What do we do when the everydayness sets in, when

> > we

> > >really no longer have to strive for weight loss,

> > for

> > >that all mighty scale to show a decrease. How do we

> > >continue on with our own normalcy?

> >

> --- Joe C wrote:

> > My initial knee-jerk reaction is:

> >

> > Well, there's always chocolate!

> >

> > But wait! That's how we got " there " in the first

> > place.

> >

> >

> Yep, I was thinking that.....LOL. Great minds think

> alike, right ????

>

> Rita in Vermont

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Chocolate PS100 covers ALL emergencies. Like my former cigarettes. Good to

head of a crisis (I lit up a PS100 immediately following our EQ here last

Feb); while nervous or waiting; when I start the car; before a meal; when

annoyed with someone; when pleased with someone; relaxing with friends;

relaxing without friends; before, during or after shopping; when sad; when

happy.

The one accessory for EVERY ensemble! And yep, I thought the SAME thing as

soon as I read that!

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

For info on PayPal, click this link:

https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com

RE: Re: ultimate goal

>

>

> > <Rita wrote:>

> > >What do we do when the everydayness sets in, when

> > we

> > >really no longer have to strive for weight loss,

> > for

> > >that all mighty scale to show a decrease. How do we

> > >continue on with our own normalcy?

> >

> --- Joe C wrote:

> > My initial knee-jerk reaction is:

> >

> > Well, there's always chocolate!

> >

> > But wait! That's how we got " there " in the first

> > place.

> >

> >

> Yep, I was thinking that.....LOL. Great minds think

> alike, right ????

>

> Rita in Vermont

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Be thankful she didn't demo by thoughtfully piercing FOR you.

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

For info on PayPal, click this link:

https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com

RE: Re: ultimate goal

WooHoooo! Piercings might just be the thing. And as

for chocolate, the best birthday card I ever received

was from my sister. It read, " There are two kinds of

women in this world, those that love chocolate

......... and bitches! "

Happy Friday!

judy in austin

--- Joe C wrote:

>

> >What do we do when the everydayness sets in, when

> we

> >really no longer have to strive for weight loss,

> for

> >that all mighty scale to show a decrease. How do we

> >continue on with our own normalcy?

>

> My initial knee-jerk reaction is:

>

> Well, there's always chocolate!

>

> But wait! That's how we got " there " in the first

> place.

>

> Seriously, with all the insurance companies and

> physicians wanting

> pre-op WLS patients to see a " Mental Health

> Professional " before

> surgery, I'm not so sure that the group as a whole

> would be better

> served to emphasize post-op life. (not the

> food-eating issues, but the

> " social adaptation " issues)

>

> Several weeks ago, I dropped my car at the

> dealership for some work and

> was standing outside waiting for my brother to pick

> me up. As I got

> into his car, his wife said, " We didn't see you at

> first standing

> outside, you look so normal. "

> Gee thanks, just what I needed.

> Maybe a distinctive piercing would prevent me from

> looking so " normal. "

>

> J

>

>

>

>

> Homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe:

> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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Be thankful she didn't demo by thoughtfully piercing FOR you.

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

For info on PayPal, click this link:

https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com

RE: Re: ultimate goal

WooHoooo! Piercings might just be the thing. And as

for chocolate, the best birthday card I ever received

was from my sister. It read, " There are two kinds of

women in this world, those that love chocolate

......... and bitches! "

Happy Friday!

judy in austin

--- Joe C wrote:

>

> >What do we do when the everydayness sets in, when

> we

> >really no longer have to strive for weight loss,

> for

> >that all mighty scale to show a decrease. How do we

> >continue on with our own normalcy?

>

> My initial knee-jerk reaction is:

>

> Well, there's always chocolate!

>

> But wait! That's how we got " there " in the first

> place.

>

> Seriously, with all the insurance companies and

> physicians wanting

> pre-op WLS patients to see a " Mental Health

> Professional " before

> surgery, I'm not so sure that the group as a whole

> would be better

> served to emphasize post-op life. (not the

> food-eating issues, but the

> " social adaptation " issues)

>

> Several weeks ago, I dropped my car at the

> dealership for some work and

> was standing outside waiting for my brother to pick

> me up. As I got

> into his car, his wife said, " We didn't see you at

> first standing

> outside, you look so normal. "

> Gee thanks, just what I needed.

> Maybe a distinctive piercing would prevent me from

> looking so " normal. "

>

> J

>

>

>

>

> Homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe:

> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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