Re: Tha dental debate (for anyone thinking of it)

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To add to the confusion of the dental debate (yeah, ok, I admit it, I enjoy

throwing a 'spanner' in the 'works') ----

More things to consider...

- If you have ever been on long term and/or high dosages of prednisone,

there is a good chance that your bone density is decreased (osteoporosis).

Loss of bone density also applies to teeth. Doing root canals and even

fillings on teeth that have suffered density loss can result in breakage. Of

course this could lead to further infection..... On the other hand, I have

also read that during extractions, pred users have a slightly increased risk

of having the jaw broken. So take your pick...

- If there is a chance that you have mastocytosis, the risk of density loss

is even greater (never mind if you add pred to that equation, which

obviously will make things worse). When I saw my new doctor, and he observed

the missing and broken teeth in my mouth, his comment was " you sure have the

teeth of someone with masto. " Every tooth I have that has ever had a filling

or root canal is broken or gone. At this point, it is not cost effective for

me to try to save a tooth....

- If you are a CU shocker, having teeth pulled can throw you into a shock

episode. If you have masto, it can throw you into a masto attack or

anaphylatic shock. If you have even the tiniest concern of something like

this happening to you, seek a dentist who has experience in working with

people like us. They are few and far between, so it might take some looking,

but well worth the effort. Also consult your doctor before having dental

work done and make sure epi is available in the room while your teeth are

being worked on. Better safe than sorry.

- Cost is also an important thing to consider. If you are paying out of

pocket for dental work, let's face it, extraction is cheaper than a root

canal in the short term. But what about the long term? How many teeth are

going to be eventually extracted? What are you gonna do if you start running

out of teeth? (sufferin' succotash!) And what about the money you've already

put out for previous dental work - will that be wasted? If I was in Bill's

position, I'd have the same concerns he's having!

- A filling or root canal can later be changed or re-done, but an extraction

is forever....

And Bill's right, there are NO guarantees. But, one has to consider there is

a known link to dental infection and CU (as well as other chronic illness).

We've seen what, maybe 15 people come through here that were cured of their

hives, and at least 12 of them were dental related. I remember one case was

a kidney or bladder infection, and one was lice. The rest, as far as I can

recall, were dental. Seems like great odds, until you realize the 'cures'

are 15 out of several hundreds.... But how many of these hundreds tried

finding and treating hidden dental infection? And did all the cured ones

stay cured? I think those numbers would give us a much more accurate

picture...

Air hugs,

Jackie

Life is tough, but I'm tougher.

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[Guest guest]

To add to the confusion of the dental debate (yeah, ok, I admit it, I enjoy

throwing a 'spanner' in the 'works') ----

More things to consider...

- If you have ever been on long term and/or high dosages of prednisone,

there is a good chance that your bone density is decreased (osteoporosis).

Loss of bone density also applies to teeth. Doing root canals and even

fillings on teeth that have suffered density loss can result in breakage. Of

course this could lead to further infection..... On the other hand, I have

also read that during extractions, pred users have a slightly increased risk

of having the jaw broken. So take your pick...

- If there is a chance that you have mastocytosis, the risk of density loss

is even greater (never mind if you add pred to that equation, which

obviously will make things worse). When I saw my new doctor, and he observed

the missing and broken teeth in my mouth, his comment was " you sure have the

teeth of someone with masto. " Every tooth I have that has ever had a filling

or root canal is broken or gone. At this point, it is not cost effective for

me to try to save a tooth....

- If you are a CU shocker, having teeth pulled can throw you into a shock

episode. If you have masto, it can throw you into a masto attack or

anaphylatic shock. If you have even the tiniest concern of something like

this happening to you, seek a dentist who has experience in working with

people like us. They are few and far between, so it might take some looking,

but well worth the effort. Also consult your doctor before having dental

work done and make sure epi is available in the room while your teeth are

being worked on. Better safe than sorry.

- Cost is also an important thing to consider. If you are paying out of

pocket for dental work, let's face it, extraction is cheaper than a root

canal in the short term. But what about the long term? How many teeth are

going to be eventually extracted? What are you gonna do if you start running

out of teeth? (sufferin' succotash!) And what about the money you've already

put out for previous dental work - will that be wasted? If I was in Bill's

position, I'd have the same concerns he's having!

- A filling or root canal can later be changed or re-done, but an extraction

is forever....

And Bill's right, there are NO guarantees. But, one has to consider there is

a known link to dental infection and CU (as well as other chronic illness).

We've seen what, maybe 15 people come through here that were cured of their

hives, and at least 12 of them were dental related. I remember one case was

a kidney or bladder infection, and one was lice. The rest, as far as I can

recall, were dental. Seems like great odds, until you realize the 'cures'

are 15 out of several hundreds.... But how many of these hundreds tried

finding and treating hidden dental infection? And did all the cured ones

stay cured? I think those numbers would give us a much more accurate

picture...

Air hugs,

Jackie

Life is tough, but I'm tougher.

_________________________________________________________________

Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

[Guest guest]

To add to the confusion of the dental debate (yeah, ok, I admit it, I enjoy

throwing a 'spanner' in the 'works') ----

More things to consider...

- If you have ever been on long term and/or high dosages of prednisone,

there is a good chance that your bone density is decreased (osteoporosis).

Loss of bone density also applies to teeth. Doing root canals and even

fillings on teeth that have suffered density loss can result in breakage. Of

course this could lead to further infection..... On the other hand, I have

also read that during extractions, pred users have a slightly increased risk

of having the jaw broken. So take your pick...

- If there is a chance that you have mastocytosis, the risk of density loss

is even greater (never mind if you add pred to that equation, which

obviously will make things worse). When I saw my new doctor, and he observed

the missing and broken teeth in my mouth, his comment was " you sure have the

teeth of someone with masto. " Every tooth I have that has ever had a filling

or root canal is broken or gone. At this point, it is not cost effective for

me to try to save a tooth....

- If you are a CU shocker, having teeth pulled can throw you into a shock

episode. If you have masto, it can throw you into a masto attack or

anaphylatic shock. If you have even the tiniest concern of something like

this happening to you, seek a dentist who has experience in working with

people like us. They are few and far between, so it might take some looking,

but well worth the effort. Also consult your doctor before having dental

work done and make sure epi is available in the room while your teeth are

being worked on. Better safe than sorry.

- Cost is also an important thing to consider. If you are paying out of

pocket for dental work, let's face it, extraction is cheaper than a root

canal in the short term. But what about the long term? How many teeth are

going to be eventually extracted? What are you gonna do if you start running

out of teeth? (sufferin' succotash!) And what about the money you've already

put out for previous dental work - will that be wasted? If I was in Bill's

position, I'd have the same concerns he's having!

- A filling or root canal can later be changed or re-done, but an extraction

is forever....

And Bill's right, there are NO guarantees. But, one has to consider there is

a known link to dental infection and CU (as well as other chronic illness).

We've seen what, maybe 15 people come through here that were cured of their

hives, and at least 12 of them were dental related. I remember one case was

a kidney or bladder infection, and one was lice. The rest, as far as I can

recall, were dental. Seems like great odds, until you realize the 'cures'

are 15 out of several hundreds.... But how many of these hundreds tried

finding and treating hidden dental infection? And did all the cured ones

stay cured? I think those numbers would give us a much more accurate

picture...

Air hugs,

Jackie

Life is tough, but I'm tougher.

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Dear Jackie:

Food for thought...and I've been thinking about most of it; it's really a tough decision. I've been wrestling with it for 4 years.

By the way, I think that the gastrocream is helping!

Tami (NJ)