Re: probiotics and vitamins during a flare

[Guest guest]

> My 7 year old is having a flare after 3 1/2 years of doing SCD and

> doing great with the diet until now. My question is can I give him

> his probiotics and vitamins during the flare or do you think his

> stomach is too sensitive right now. He hasn't be able to eat

> because he is so sick. He was throwing up all day yesterday and he

> is going to the bathroom every 1/2 an hour today with blood. I am

> really scared I don't want him to have to go to the hospital. Any

> suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I've been able to get

> him to drink a little, but he hasn't be able to eat for three days

> now. Should I be pushing the SCD intro diet or not to worry since

> everything is going through him? If you have been doing SCD for a

> while and than you have a flare (I think it was the yogurt...I

> introduced it to him about 3 months ago) can it be stopped on its

> own and how long will it take? I just don't want him to get on

> steroids because last time he was on them he wasn't able to get off!

> them, until I started the SCD diet. It took a very long time.

Maybe you should ask on the pecanbread.com yahoo group - since they

are the kid experts.

but I think the better course right now it to stop all supplementation

and probiotics, until you figure out the cause.

And if he is will to eat, do the intro soup.

Mara

[Guest guest]

> My 7 year old is having a flare after 3 1/2 years of doing SCD and

> doing great with the diet until now. My question is can I give him

> his probiotics and vitamins during the flare or do you think his

> stomach is too sensitive right now. He hasn't be able to eat

> because he is so sick. He was throwing up all day yesterday and he

> is going to the bathroom every 1/2 an hour today with blood. I am

> really scared I don't want him to have to go to the hospital. Any

> suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I've been able to get

> him to drink a little, but he hasn't be able to eat for three days

> now. Should I be pushing the SCD intro diet or not to worry since

> everything is going through him? If you have been doing SCD for a

> while and than you have a flare (I think it was the yogurt...I

> introduced it to him about 3 months ago) can it be stopped on its

> own and how long will it take? I just don't want him to get on

> steroids because last time he was on them he wasn't able to get off!

> them, until I started the SCD diet. It took a very long time.

Maybe you should ask on the pecanbread.com yahoo group - since they

are the kid experts.

but I think the better course right now it to stop all supplementation

and probiotics, until you figure out the cause.

And if he is will to eat, do the intro soup.

Mara

[Guest guest]

The blood is not good - along with the rest. I don't know if you are aware of

the several potential pitfalls of probiotic supplements - Many have prebiotic

additives designed to feed the bacteria after they are in the gut. The usual

ones are FOS (fructo-oligosaccharides) or inulin. These also feed the

undesirable bacteria and are to be avoided. Also, some probiotics have lactose

added. Then there is the question of what bacteria are in it. Most probiotics

have a mixture of Lactobacillus types and Bifidobacter species (and some have

Streptococcus). Bifidobacter can cause problems for some people. It is usually

not a problem because the Bifidobacter is usually dead - it can't stand oxygen.

Some fresher supplies that have been kept cold may have some live Bifidobacter,

so that may be the problem. Choose a probiotic that only has Lactobacillus

species in it. Since it is hard to find ones that do not have Bifidobacter, you

may have better luck looking for Lactobacillus reuterii (Primadophilus brand).

That said, the bloody D will radically change the population of gut bacteria for

the worse. Do the intro diet, and stop the vitamins for now, but it is

important to get the probiotics into him. The probiotics provide important

inflammation reduction.

>

> > My 7 year old is having a flare after 3 1/2 years of doing SCD and

> > doing great with the diet until now. My question is can I give him

> > his probiotics and vitamins during the flare or do you think his

> > stomach is too sensitive right now. He hasn't be able to eat

> > because he is so sick. He was throwing up all day yesterday and he

> > is going to the bathroom every 1/2 an hour today with blood. I am

> > really scared I don't want him to have to go to the hospital. Any

> > suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I've been able to get

> > him to drink a little, but he hasn't be able to eat for three days

> > now. Should I be pushing the SCD intro diet or not to worry since

> > everything is going through him? If you have been doing SCD for a

> > while and than you have a flare (I think it was the yogurt...I

> > introduced it to him about 3 months ago) can it be stopped on its

> > own and how long will it take? I just don't want him to get on

> > steroids because last time he was on them he wasn't able to get off!

> > them, until I started the SCD diet. It took a very long time.

>

> Maybe you should ask on the pecanbread.com yahoo group - since they

> are the kid experts.

>

> but I think the better course right now it to stop all supplementation

> and probiotics, until you figure out the cause.

>

> And if he is will to eat, do the intro soup.

>

> Mara

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