Re: Re: OT Vitamin tests/// Dinah to Jodi and Ann

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I love nutritional yeast, so I was afraid when the SCD mentioned avoiding yeast. However, I looked it up online and the nutritional yeast is inactive and won't grow, so at least that's not an issue. I'm not sure if that makes it legal or not though!AlyssaHow do you know B-5 makes you over the top, etc? Have you taken it all by itself? Orally or IM or IV? How B's are given (amounts in relation to one and other) is vitally important, and anyway, cannot be formulated exactly to reproduce how they appear in food. If the relationship between them is off, a deficiency in one or the other can be created and cause big problems. Best to get your B's from food if at all possible. Nutritional yeast is a good source. Is it legal? I would think not.Also, be careful with the ongoing B-12, as unlike the other B's it is stored in the body and too much is no good.Dinah >> This is interesting since I am deficient in other B's (never checked B5) but if I supplement B's (B12, B6 and B2 seem to be ok sometimes) in IV's I get such a bad headache- B5 makes me really over the top exhausted.> My B12 is high but my other integrative doc still puts it in my IV. There is controversy on what a good B12 level really is. Apparently the amounts here in the US are much lower than EU standards.> > Another thing to read about. LOL.> > Jodi>

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I love nutritional yeast, so I was afraid when the SCD mentioned avoiding yeast. However, I looked it up online and the nutritional yeast is inactive and won't grow, so at least that's not an issue. I'm not sure if that makes it legal or not though!AlyssaHow do you know B-5 makes you over the top, etc? Have you taken it all by itself? Orally or IM or IV? How B's are given (amounts in relation to one and other) is vitally important, and anyway, cannot be formulated exactly to reproduce how they appear in food. If the relationship between them is off, a deficiency in one or the other can be created and cause big problems. Best to get your B's from food if at all possible. Nutritional yeast is a good source. Is it legal? I would think not.Also, be careful with the ongoing B-12, as unlike the other B's it is stored in the body and too much is no good.Dinah >> This is interesting since I am deficient in other B's (never checked B5) but if I supplement B's (B12, B6 and B2 seem to be ok sometimes) in IV's I get such a bad headache- B5 makes me really over the top exhausted.> My B12 is high but my other integrative doc still puts it in my IV. There is controversy on what a good B12 level really is. Apparently the amounts here in the US are much lower than EU standards.> > Another thing to read about. LOL.> > Jodi>

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At 06:55 PM 4/2/2009, you wrote:

I love nutritional yeast, so I

was afraid when the SCD mentioned avoiding yeast. However, I looked it up

online and the nutritional yeast is inactive and won't grow, so at least

that's not an issue. I'm not sure if that makes it legal or not

though!

Sorry, nutritional yeast is not legal.

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Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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Aw, that's a bummer. Marilyn, why is it illegal?AlyssaAt 06:55 PM 4/2/2009, you wrote:I love nutritional yeast, so I was afraid when the SCD mentioned avoiding yeast. However, I looked it up online and the nutritional yeast is inactive and won't grow, so at least that's not an issue. I'm not sure if that makes it legal or not though!Sorry, nutritional yeast is not legal.— Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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Aw, that's a bummer. Marilyn, why is it illegal?AlyssaAt 06:55 PM 4/2/2009, you wrote:I love nutritional yeast, so I was afraid when the SCD mentioned avoiding yeast. However, I looked it up online and the nutritional yeast is inactive and won't grow, so at least that's not an issue. I'm not sure if that makes it legal or not though!Sorry, nutritional yeast is not legal.— Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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Yeah, I guess so. At this point, it's still all an experiment for me to see what will and won't work. I was never diagnosed with Candida, so Im not sure how to tell if I have it or not, but it seems it goes together with UC very often.ALyssaSo Alyssa,I see we are very similar as some of these "illegal" questions irk me too... I think it makes many of us question the "why" behind some of Elaine's choices- and she isn't here to give us full on explanations. Even then, do you think she would have the time for every little "why" question LOL. It's a blessing she did what she did.One of the things you need to ask yourself when it comes to illegals in general "what can it be feeding or contributing to the gut dysbiosis environment" This is why for instance Candida can be a real problem for some. Some people don't know how bad their Candida is and being fruit heavy in the begining of the diet will damper their progress.I think in the case of nutritional yeast it's like this wild card- as it seems to me whether dead or alive it would totally feed some nasty critters.I would love one of our home brew scientists or SCD'er with knowledge on the subject to speak up!!We always have some -expert- in our bunch.. But people are busy feeling well.Jodi

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Thanks. No, I can't say I've read that book. Maybe I should check it out. It's definitely on my 'pull first' list, but for now I've just got too much going on to think much about diet.Hi Alyssa..It's pretty much safe to presume that we with IBD have gut dysbiosis it goes hand n' hand. There are so many microbes at play in any given individual that it's hard when things are labeled under the way over generalized term of "Candida".The SCD calls for fanatical adherence for it to work. I personally wouldn't keep something like Brewers Yeast in. If you aren't improving that should be one of the first things to pull for sure.Have you read "Gut and Psychology Syndrome" by Dr Natasha McBride? She basically took the SCD and expanded on it (it is still the regular diet with subtle differences as she focuses more on Brain issues) anyway, in this book IMO she really does a good job explaining what Gut Dysbiosis and Candida really are. She also gives different reasons why we come down with it and are plagued with it in our society. Really a fascinating read and a must for any SCD'er!Jodi>> Yeah, I guess so. At this point, it's still all an experiment for me > to see what will and won't work. I was never diagnosed with Candida, > so Im not sure how to tell if I have it or not, but it seems it goes > together with UC very often.> ALyssa