Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 In a message dated 8/18/2004 4:36:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, garyland@... writes: > FREE T3 normal at 303 with the normal range being from 230 to 420. > I would think you would want to get this higher to feel better. cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Hi . Comments on a few things: The way you are upping your Armour sounds great. And hopefully, once you are at 2 grains, you'll sit for several weeks to give the T4 time to build and see the results. I'm really excited for you. Has your doc ever commented as to what makes your Ferritin so high?? Your free T3 may be in the so-called " normal " range, but it's not normal. I bet you know that. Tell us about Schwartzbein Syndrome... Janie > My Ferritin is HIGH at 436 with normal from 20-380. > My DHEA in my blood was normal at 300 (well in range) > My insulin was 15 with ideal being 5 to 10. 15 is still in normal > range, though. > Cortisol was high at 26.4 with normal at 8am being 4 to 22. My > cortisol a few months ago was 34 at 8am. > Vit B12 normal > FREE T3 normal at 303 with the normal range being from 230 to 420. > I am HYPOGLYCEMIC according to the blood work and insulin resistant. > He said I have Schwartzbein Syndrome. > No Candida Antibodies > > Does anyone have any thoughts on this? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Hi . Comments on a few things: The way you are upping your Armour sounds great. And hopefully, once you are at 2 grains, you'll sit for several weeks to give the T4 time to build and see the results. I'm really excited for you. Has your doc ever commented as to what makes your Ferritin so high?? Your free T3 may be in the so-called " normal " range, but it's not normal. I bet you know that. Tell us about Schwartzbein Syndrome... Janie > My Ferritin is HIGH at 436 with normal from 20-380. > My DHEA in my blood was normal at 300 (well in range) > My insulin was 15 with ideal being 5 to 10. 15 is still in normal > range, though. > Cortisol was high at 26.4 with normal at 8am being 4 to 22. My > cortisol a few months ago was 34 at 8am. > Vit B12 normal > FREE T3 normal at 303 with the normal range being from 230 to 420. > I am HYPOGLYCEMIC according to the blood work and insulin resistant. > He said I have Schwartzbein Syndrome. > No Candida Antibodies > > Does anyone have any thoughts on this? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Hi . Comments on a few things: The way you are upping your Armour sounds great. And hopefully, once you are at 2 grains, you'll sit for several weeks to give the T4 time to build and see the results. I'm really excited for you. Has your doc ever commented as to what makes your Ferritin so high?? Your free T3 may be in the so-called " normal " range, but it's not normal. I bet you know that. Tell us about Schwartzbein Syndrome... Janie > My Ferritin is HIGH at 436 with normal from 20-380. > My DHEA in my blood was normal at 300 (well in range) > My insulin was 15 with ideal being 5 to 10. 15 is still in normal > range, though. > Cortisol was high at 26.4 with normal at 8am being 4 to 22. My > cortisol a few months ago was 34 at 8am. > Vit B12 normal > FREE T3 normal at 303 with the normal range being from 230 to 420. > I am HYPOGLYCEMIC according to the blood work and insulin resistant. > He said I have Schwartzbein Syndrome. > No Candida Antibodies > > Does anyone have any thoughts on this? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Hi Janie, How is my T3 not normal? Where should it be? No, Dr. Woliner did not say why my Ferritin was so high. Is that iron? I remember years ago they tested me for iron amoung other things and my iron was high. I really don't know much about the Schwarzbein Principle but there is a website you can visit. Dr. Woliner has mentioned this Schwarzbein thing to me often. http://www.schwarzbeinprinciple.com/pgs/home.html > Hi . Comments on a few things: The way you are upping your Armour > sounds great. And hopefully, once you are at 2 grains, you'll sit for > several weeks to give the T4 time to build and see the results. I'm > really excited for you. > > Has your doc ever commented as to what makes your Ferritin so high?? > > Your free T3 may be in the so-called " normal " range, but it's not > normal. I bet you know that. > > Tell us about Schwartzbein Syndrome... > > Janie > > > > My Ferritin is HIGH at 436 with normal from 20-380. > > My DHEA in my blood was normal at 300 (well in range) > > My insulin was 15 with ideal being 5 to 10. 15 is still in normal > > range, though. > > Cortisol was high at 26.4 with normal at 8am being 4 to 22. My > > cortisol a few months ago was 34 at 8am. > > Vit B12 normal > > FREE T3 normal at 303 with the normal range being from 230 to 420. > > I am HYPOGLYCEMIC according to the blood work and insulin resistant. > > He said I have Schwartzbein Syndrome. > > No Candida Antibodies > > > > Does anyone have any thoughts on this? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Hello , G> How is my T3 not normal? Where should it be? No, Dr. Woliner did not G> say why my Ferritin was so high. if you are in an acute stage of inflammation ferritin can be high due to being an acute phase reactant. however repeat ferritins should go down when inflammation[from RA hashis etc]is lessened G> Is that iron? I remember years ago G> they tested me for iron amoung other things and my iron was high. fasting iron? -- Best regards, Alison http://www.alisonashwell.com mailto:alison.ashwell@... new work uploaded http://www.artwanted.com/alisonashwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Hi , Glad to hear you are progressing! So he has you on DHEA for adrenal support instead of hydrocortisone...and this is allowing you to take Armour now? Very interesting. Why did he choose to do that where your DHEA is high enough? So he is saying you are insulin resistant because your insulin was 15 with range of 5-10? So too much is floating around trying to work and cannot.... Schwarzbein Syndrome being...??? Roxanna Update on .... Hi all, I just wanted to let everyone know how I am progressing. I am on 1grain of armour and have been for a little over one week. I am supposed to jump to 1 1/2 grains after next week and then to 2 grains two weeks later. I am on 37.5 mgs of DHEA up from 25 mgs a few days ago. I am certainly tolerating the armour better than without the adrenal support. The doc told me to watch for acne or aggression problems. I don't feel agressive at this point, but I have been noticing a little acne. As far as my blood work prior to my DHEA and the armour, here goes: My Ferritin is HIGH at 436 with normal from 20-380. My DHEA in my blood was normal at 300 (well in range) My insulin was 15 with ideal being 5 to 10. 15 is still in normal range, though. Cortisol was high at 26.4 with normal at 8am being 4 to 22. My cortisol a few months ago was 34 at 8am. Vit B12 normal FREE T3 normal at 303 with the normal range being from 230 to 420. I am HYPOGLYCEMIC according to the blood work and insulin resistant. He said I have Schwartzbein Syndrome. No Candida Antibodies Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Hello loboshe, The serum l> ferritin level -- the amount of ferritin in your blood -- is directly l> proportional to the amount of iron stored in your body. except in acute inflammation -- Best regards, Alison http://www.alisonashwell.com mailto:alison.ashwell@... new work uploaded http://www.artwanted.com/alisonashwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Hello loboshe, The serum l> ferritin level -- the amount of ferritin in your blood -- is directly l> proportional to the amount of iron stored in your body. except in acute inflammation -- Best regards, Alison http://www.alisonashwell.com mailto:alison.ashwell@... new work uploaded http://www.artwanted.com/alisonashwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 > How is my T3 not normal? Where should it be? Hi . Most of us don't get fully rid of our symptoms until our free T3 is at the top of the range....and over. Ferritin is a protein that stores iron in the body. The serum ferritin level -- the amount of ferritin in your blood -- is directly proportional to the amount of iron stored in your body. Most of us have pitifully low Ferritin--you are lucky. But if it's too high, you can have problems---I just don't know how much is too much. Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 In a message dated 8/18/2004 9:25:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, garyland@... writes: > Where is your Free T3 at now? > At 3 1/2 grains I was in the mid 600s. I'm up to 5 grains now...so it's no telling...but I have no hyper symptoms and my hypo symptoms are pretty much gone. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 In a message dated 8/18/2004 9:25:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, garyland@... writes: > Where is your Free T3 at now? > At 3 1/2 grains I was in the mid 600s. I'm up to 5 grains now...so it's no telling...but I have no hyper symptoms and my hypo symptoms are pretty much gone. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 I really don't know much about the Schwarzbein Principle but there is a website you can visit. Dr. Woliner has mentioned this Schwarzbein thing to me often. Hey , I noticed that book on his book shelf when I was there on Monday. nne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 I really don't know much about the Schwarzbein Principle but there is a website you can visit. Dr. Woliner has mentioned this Schwarzbein thing to me often. Hey , I noticed that book on his book shelf when I was there on Monday. nne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 I really don't know much about the Schwarzbein Principle but there is a website you can visit. Dr. Woliner has mentioned this Schwarzbein thing to me often. Hey , I noticed that book on his book shelf when I was there on Monday. nne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 nne, He has a lot of books that I have at home. I just bought the Schwarzbein Principle book tonight from the bookstore. By the way, Dr. Woliner said that I stress myself out too much and I should leave the worrying to him. I have to put my faith in him. > I really don't know much about the Schwarzbein Principle but there is > a website you can visit. Dr. Woliner has mentioned this Schwarzbein > thing to me often. > > > > > > Hey , > > I noticed that book on his book shelf when I was there on Monday. > > nne > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 nne, He has a lot of books that I have at home. I just bought the Schwarzbein Principle book tonight from the bookstore. By the way, Dr. Woliner said that I stress myself out too much and I should leave the worrying to him. I have to put my faith in him. > I really don't know much about the Schwarzbein Principle but there is > a website you can visit. Dr. Woliner has mentioned this Schwarzbein > thing to me often. > > > > > > Hey , > > I noticed that book on his book shelf when I was there on Monday. > > nne > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 nne, He has a lot of books that I have at home. I just bought the Schwarzbein Principle book tonight from the bookstore. By the way, Dr. Woliner said that I stress myself out too much and I should leave the worrying to him. I have to put my faith in him. > I really don't know much about the Schwarzbein Principle but there is > a website you can visit. Dr. Woliner has mentioned this Schwarzbein > thing to me often. > > > > > > Hey , > > I noticed that book on his book shelf when I was there on Monday. > > nne > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 That is good to know. Hopefully Dr. Woliner will get everything in order. I sure hope so. > > How is my T3 not normal? Where should it be? > > Hi . Most of us don't get fully rid of our symptoms until our > free T3 is at the top of the range....and over. > > Ferritin is a protein that stores iron in the body. The serum > ferritin level -- the amount of ferritin in your blood -- is directly > proportional to the amount of iron stored in your body. Most of us > have pitifully low Ferritin--you are lucky. But if it's too high, you > can have problems---I just don't know how much is too much. > > Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 That is good to know. Hopefully Dr. Woliner will get everything in order. I sure hope so. > > How is my T3 not normal? Where should it be? > > Hi . Most of us don't get fully rid of our symptoms until our > free T3 is at the top of the range....and over. > > Ferritin is a protein that stores iron in the body. The serum > ferritin level -- the amount of ferritin in your blood -- is directly > proportional to the amount of iron stored in your body. Most of us > have pitifully low Ferritin--you are lucky. But if it's too high, you > can have problems---I just don't know how much is too much. > > Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 That is good to know. Hopefully Dr. Woliner will get everything in order. I sure hope so. > > How is my T3 not normal? Where should it be? > > Hi . Most of us don't get fully rid of our symptoms until our > free T3 is at the top of the range....and over. > > Ferritin is a protein that stores iron in the body. The serum > ferritin level -- the amount of ferritin in your blood -- is directly > proportional to the amount of iron stored in your body. Most of us > have pitifully low Ferritin--you are lucky. But if it's too high, you > can have problems---I just don't know how much is too much. > > Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Cindi, Where is your Free T3 at now? > In a message dated 8/18/2004 4:36:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, > garyland@y... writes: > > > FREE T3 normal at 303 with the normal range being from 230 to 420. > > > > I would think you would want to get this higher to feel better. > cindi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Cindi, Where is your Free T3 at now? > In a message dated 8/18/2004 4:36:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, > garyland@y... writes: > > > FREE T3 normal at 303 with the normal range being from 230 to 420. > > > > I would think you would want to get this higher to feel better. > cindi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 , Well I am putting my faith in him! He is treating my son, husband and myself. I feel SO fortunate to live in his area! Let me know what you think of that book.It will be the next one on my list no doubt! nne _____ From: Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 8:43 PM To: NaturalThyroidHormones Subject: Re: Update on .... nne, He has a lot of books that I have at home. I just bought the Schwarzbein Principle book tonight from the bookstore. By the way, Dr. Woliner said that I stress myself out too much and I should leave the worrying to him. I have to put my faith in him. > I really don't know much about the Schwarzbein Principle but there is > a website you can visit. Dr. Woliner has mentioned this Schwarzbein > thing to me often. > > > > > > Hey , > > I noticed that book on his book shelf when I was there on Monday. > > nne > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 , Well I am putting my faith in him! He is treating my son, husband and myself. I feel SO fortunate to live in his area! Let me know what you think of that book.It will be the next one on my list no doubt! nne _____ From: Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 8:43 PM To: NaturalThyroidHormones Subject: Re: Update on .... nne, He has a lot of books that I have at home. I just bought the Schwarzbein Principle book tonight from the bookstore. By the way, Dr. Woliner said that I stress myself out too much and I should leave the worrying to him. I have to put my faith in him. > I really don't know much about the Schwarzbein Principle but there is > a website you can visit. Dr. Woliner has mentioned this Schwarzbein > thing to me often. > > > > > > Hey , > > I noticed that book on his book shelf when I was there on Monday. > > nne > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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