Honeymoon period on Armour?

[Guest guest]

> oh my...I could have written these exact words. and

yes...the " honeymoon " period was so delightful - so where did that

go?

Wait. Are there folks here who had a great time at the beginning of

Armour, and now do not?? When you find your optimal dose, there is

no reason not to have that honeymoon period every single day of your

life on Armour. Am I misunderstanding something ??

Janie

[Guest guest]

When I first started, I felt great for about two or three days. Then

not so great, but still better than pre-Armour. I am not at my optimal

dose yet, but hope be to experience that honeymoon again when I do get

there.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

Honeymoon period on Armour?

> oh my...I could have written these exact words. and

yes...the " honeymoon " period was so delightful - so where did that

go?

Wait. Are there folks here who had a great time at the beginning of

Armour, and now do not?? When you find your optimal dose, there is

no reason not to have that honeymoon period every single day of your

life on Armour. Am I misunderstanding something ??

Janie

[Guest guest]

When I first started, I felt great for about two or three days. Then

not so great, but still better than pre-Armour. I am not at my optimal

dose yet, but hope be to experience that honeymoon again when I do get

there.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

Honeymoon period on Armour?

> oh my...I could have written these exact words. and

yes...the " honeymoon " period was so delightful - so where did that

go?

Wait. Are there folks here who had a great time at the beginning of

Armour, and now do not?? When you find your optimal dose, there is

no reason not to have that honeymoon period every single day of your

life on Armour. Am I misunderstanding something ??

Janie

[Guest guest]

When I first started, I felt great for about two or three days. Then

not so great, but still better than pre-Armour. I am not at my optimal

dose yet, but hope be to experience that honeymoon again when I do get

there.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

Honeymoon period on Armour?

> oh my...I could have written these exact words. and

yes...the " honeymoon " period was so delightful - so where did that

go?

Wait. Are there folks here who had a great time at the beginning of

Armour, and now do not?? When you find your optimal dose, there is

no reason not to have that honeymoon period every single day of your

life on Armour. Am I misunderstanding something ??

Janie

[Guest guest]

Janie, This is what I am hoping for. That optimization will bring back the old

me that I miss. It will have to be optimization of both Armour and adrenal

function tho....both are a disaster.

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Honeymoon period on Armour?

> oh my...I could have written these exact words. and

yes...the " honeymoon " period was so delightful - so where did that

go?

Wait. Are there folks here who had a great time at the beginning of

Armour, and now do not?? When you find your optimal dose, there is

no reason not to have that honeymoon period every single day of your

life on Armour. Am I misunderstanding something ??

Janie

[Guest guest]

Roxanna, it will happen. If I can come from being acutely and

devastatingly sick for years--sicker than anyone I had ever known on

T4-only meds, with the most horrendous of adrenal reactions to any

kind of movement, to feeling and living like a teenager again (in

spite of my tendonitis, which is merely an aggravation, at times)

YOU WILL, TOO!! You hang in there, kiddo. It WILL happen. Debbie,

this is for you, too, sweetheart.

Janie

> Janie, This is what I am hoping for. That optimization will bring

back the old me that I miss. It will have to be optimization of both

Armour and adrenal function tho....both are a disaster.

>

> Roxanna

>

> North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

> northstargsdr@e...

> www.northstargsdr.org

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/2/2004 9:53:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, usns@...

writes:

> Are there folks here who had a great time at the beginning of

> Armour, and now do not?? When you find your optimal dose, there is

> no reason not to have that honeymoon period every single day of your

> life on Armour. Am I misunderstanding something ??

nah - you understood it. I felt better when I first started Armour than I do

now. Mostly mentally I think. Just an optimism. More energy. Looking

forward to the future. I still had hypo symptoms though on less Armour. Leg

pains. Dry skin and scalp. Foot pains. Having to take a nap.

Having upped the Armour to where there are no physical symptoms I don't feel

quite as good mentally and although the obvious hypo symptoms are gone, I feel

an all over strain to my body.

I have thought that my adrenals could not handle the higher amount of Armour

needed to keep hypo symptoms away.

Or perhaps I'm just rusted out from years of hypo.

I have read it can take a while for the mental and physical stuff to

completely heal...and I'm only 6 months into treatment.

Any suggestions?

Cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/3/2004 10:42:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Astrodiana@... writes:

> One doctor said to me that we forget just how badly we felt BEFORE

> Armour, yes we have a memory, but it fades as we feel better

lol. my husband always points out to me how much better i am doing compared

to before Armour. But i want to feel the way i felt before the thyroid

started acting up so bad. And I believe that was age 33. And it makes me mad

that

at 48, my last memory of feeling well was back in my early 30s. No fair!

Cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/3/2004 10:42:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Astrodiana@... writes:

> One doctor said to me that we forget just how badly we felt BEFORE

> Armour, yes we have a memory, but it fades as we feel better

lol. my husband always points out to me how much better i am doing compared

to before Armour. But i want to feel the way i felt before the thyroid

started acting up so bad. And I believe that was age 33. And it makes me mad

that

at 48, my last memory of feeling well was back in my early 30s. No fair!

Cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/3/2004 11:02:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

starz@... writes:

> I also started a journal to keep up with my dosages, amt of meds, and

> how I'm feeling, healthwise and emotionally

My husband has suggested that I do this. It might be informative to me as I

need to write down when I take vitamins and everything...or i forget. But I

think you're right that the longer we were hypo, the longer it takes to get

better.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

> Hello nc2406,

>

> nac> nah - you understood it. I felt better when I first started

Armour than I do

> nac> now. Mostly mentally I think. Just an optimism. More

energy. Looking

> nac> forward to the future.

One doctor said to me that we forget just how badly we felt BEFORE

Armour, yes we have a memory, but it fades as we feel better. he

said it's like " How you gonna keep em down on the farm, after they've

seen Par-ee " LOL

[Guest guest]

> Hello nc2406,

>

> nac> nah - you understood it. I felt better when I first started

Armour than I do

> nac> now. Mostly mentally I think. Just an optimism. More

energy. Looking

> nac> forward to the future.

One doctor said to me that we forget just how badly we felt BEFORE

Armour, yes we have a memory, but it fades as we feel better. he

said it's like " How you gonna keep em down on the farm, after they've

seen Par-ee " LOL

[Guest guest]

> Hello nc2406,

>

> nac> nah - you understood it. I felt better when I first started

Armour than I do

> nac> now. Mostly mentally I think. Just an optimism. More

energy. Looking

> nac> forward to the future.

One doctor said to me that we forget just how badly we felt BEFORE

Armour, yes we have a memory, but it fades as we feel better. he

said it's like " How you gonna keep em down on the farm, after they've

seen Par-ee " LOL

[Guest guest]

, I think sometimes how long we go without proper thyroid

replacement has a lot to do with how long it takes us to recover and

feel our best. In my case, I was hypoT,(without diagnosis)in looking

back now. When I went hyperT/Graves in Nov/Dec 2001, I was kept hypoT

while on anti thyroid meds, for most of that time. (almost 2 yrs).

My thyroid now seems to be asleep, and doesn't want to wake up (or

it's kaput), hence my reading this group, and finally deciding to take

the plunge to take the Armour. I have stopped taking Armour twice

now, and it's not been to my advantage. It seems to take longer for

me to get back to where I was when I stopped it. Once was to appease

the DR ( rencently) and give her Levoxyl a try, but symptoms returned

in a week. The last time, I stopped for 1 1/2 weeks thinking that it

wouldn't make a huge difference and I could get my tests done by going

back to the same Endo who'd put me on the Levoxyl. I guess my thought

process was that I was afraid I was having hyperT symptoms again, and

some of the things I ran across made me worry. I have noticed since

restarting the Armour, my brain is still fighting with brain fog,

although I do feel better.

Hopefully that will in time help me to feel even better, like I was

when I first started it. In my case, mine is from giving mainstream

medicine (the Endo) the benefit of the doubt, which so far wasn't

worth it to me.

I also started a journal to keep up with my dosages, amt of meds, and

how I'm feeling, healthwise and emotionally. It's when things are

really going on in my personal life that I find I have a worse time

and don't feel as well. To me, that stress always affects me. :-(

SandyE~Houston

On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:04:21 EDT

nc2406@... wrote:

[Guest guest]

, I think sometimes how long we go without proper thyroid

replacement has a lot to do with how long it takes us to recover and

feel our best. In my case, I was hypoT,(without diagnosis)in looking

back now. When I went hyperT/Graves in Nov/Dec 2001, I was kept hypoT

while on anti thyroid meds, for most of that time. (almost 2 yrs).

My thyroid now seems to be asleep, and doesn't want to wake up (or

it's kaput), hence my reading this group, and finally deciding to take

the plunge to take the Armour. I have stopped taking Armour twice

now, and it's not been to my advantage. It seems to take longer for

me to get back to where I was when I stopped it. Once was to appease

the DR ( rencently) and give her Levoxyl a try, but symptoms returned

in a week. The last time, I stopped for 1 1/2 weeks thinking that it

wouldn't make a huge difference and I could get my tests done by going

back to the same Endo who'd put me on the Levoxyl. I guess my thought

process was that I was afraid I was having hyperT symptoms again, and

some of the things I ran across made me worry. I have noticed since

restarting the Armour, my brain is still fighting with brain fog,

although I do feel better.

Hopefully that will in time help me to feel even better, like I was

when I first started it. In my case, mine is from giving mainstream

medicine (the Endo) the benefit of the doubt, which so far wasn't

worth it to me.

I also started a journal to keep up with my dosages, amt of meds, and

how I'm feeling, healthwise and emotionally. It's when things are

really going on in my personal life that I find I have a worse time

and don't feel as well. To me, that stress always affects me. :-(

SandyE~Houston

On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:04:21 EDT

nc2406@... wrote:

[Guest guest]

Thanks! What would we do without support from each other? It's like watching

someone else able to reach the summit ahead of you and so knowing that there is

a way and that you can make it too.

Roxanna

North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

northstargsdr@...

www.northstargsdr.org

Re: Honeymoon period on Armour?

Roxanna, it will happen. If I can come from being acutely and

devastatingly sick for years--sicker than anyone I had ever known on

T4-only meds, with the most horrendous of adrenal reactions to any

kind of movement, to feeling and living like a teenager again (in

spite of my tendonitis, which is merely an aggravation, at times)

YOU WILL, TOO!! You hang in there, kiddo. It WILL happen. Debbie,

this is for you, too, sweetheart.

Janie

> Janie, This is what I am hoping for. That optimization will bring

back the old me that I miss. It will have to be optimization of both

Armour and adrenal function tho....both are a disaster.

>

> Roxanna

>

> North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc

> northstargsdr@e...

> www.northstargsdr.org

[Guest guest]

Perhaps it's like forgetting those childbirth pains. We don't want to

remember the bad, only the good.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

-----Original Message-----

From: astrodiana

Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:41 AM

One doctor said to me that we forget just how badly we felt BEFORE

Armour, yes we have a memory, but it fades as we feel better. he

said it's like " How you gonna keep em down on the farm, after they've

seen Par-ee " LOL

[Guest guest]

It is great that those who have almost reached the summit have stuck around here

to offer encouragement. Janie is most encouraging and also when I wrote today

about my increasing flexibility was on hand to tell me that it gets even

better.

I think that's what we need to hear from the people who have experienced it

themselves

Lynda (in the UK)

Re: Re: Honeymoon period on Armour?

Thanks! What would we do without support from each other? It's like watching

someone else able to reach the summit ahead of you and so knowing that there is

a way and that you can make it too.

[Guest guest]

> Dr. W. told me to raise it every two weeks, but as I've been

reading this list, I see that the advise is as you say. I'm due to

increase by 1/4 grain this week, but I feel really good right now so

I think I'll wait and see what happens.

>

> B.

I had a holistic MD who also advised quick raises in dosage for

certain patients..for the most part, it worked well.

[Guest guest]

> Dr. W. told me to raise it every two weeks, but as I've been

reading this list, I see that the advise is as you say. I'm due to

increase by 1/4 grain this week, but I feel really good right now so

I think I'll wait and see what happens.

>

> B.

I had a holistic MD who also advised quick raises in dosage for

certain patients..for the most part, it worked well.

[Guest guest]

> Dr. W. told me to raise it every two weeks, but as I've been

reading this list, I see that the advise is as you say. I'm due to

increase by 1/4 grain this week, but I feel really good right now so

I think I'll wait and see what happens.

>

> B.

I had a holistic MD who also advised quick raises in dosage for

certain patients..for the most part, it worked well.