Re: Why is so much more tired than other kids?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

has the same problem. Around 10 AM in school during circle time

while his peers are raring to go, he has to lean on his teacher

because he is too tired to sit upright. At first we thought it was

the periactin but we aren't giving it to him in the morning. His

doctor thinks that because he has much smaller muscle he doesn't

have the stammina of his peers. When he is active he is just as

active but then quickly tires until he can re-energize his muscles.

Also, still naps for 2 hours almost every afternoon.

Sometimes he misses but he not much and that is in addition to

sleeping almost 11 hours each night.

Also, I wanted to say that I think often about how hard it must be

for you with your husband on east coast and you on the west. Just my

opinion but I agree, maybe he should take some time off and drive

home. In addition, I know it must be hard for all the single parents

trying to cope with this on top of just the everyday stuff. My hat is

off to you.

Ken M

> Can anyone with experience help me understand why tires so

much easier than her peers?

>

> I mean, she is now in the 10%'tile of the weight chart, and 25 " tile

of the height, so it isn't too bad. She is 5.5 yrs old and just

started kindergarden.

>

> She sleeps 11.5 hours at night. Wakes around 7:15am, gets dressed

and eats a good breakfast. Kindergarden starts at 8am. She has a

carbo snack at 9:10am. A mini-lunch at 10:10am (half a sandwhich and

a yogurt for example). But when I pick her up at 11:20am, she is

BEAT!!! Sometimes I carry her down the hill and she is almost asleep

my shoulder.

>

> And yet her peers are all raring to go, planning play dates, etc.

>

> I take her home and she has quiet time (gulp, I do let her watch TV

for a while while she eats again). Around 3pm, she is ready to rare

again, do sports or play.

>

> I am wondering why she gets so tired by 11:20am? Is it calories?

Is it just that she is still so thin? Any ideas?

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

It could be the lower muscle tone. She has to work harder to do the same things

her peers are doing and is actually using up more energy than they are. Does

this make since? It is just a guess, but that is what I always attributed

Storm's problem of tiring more easily with.

Carmen

[Guest guest]

,

It could be the lower muscle tone. She has to work harder to do the same things

her peers are doing and is actually using up more energy than they are. Does

this make since? It is just a guess, but that is what I always attributed

Storm's problem of tiring more easily with.

Carmen

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm also really interested in hearing other people's answers to this

question. Tyler, who's about 2 1/2, still has a 3-hour nap every

afternoon. He'd sleep for 4 hours, but we decided that was too long

and usually wake him from a deep sleep. Most of the other kids this

age don't sleep at all - the ones who do only sleep for about 1 1/2

hours at most.

From everything you've said, she's doing so well on growth hormones

(increasing strength, growth and better moods) that I thought GHT

would also provide more energy. I don't have any personal experience

with growth hormones, so this was just my perception.

Do you know what to do about school if she hasn't grown out of it by

next year? Most kids in New Zealand start afternoon kindergarten 3

days per week at age 3, but there's no way we can send Tyler if he's

still so tired. I don't mind keeping him home at age 3, but I don't

want him to miss out when all of the other kids his age are going.

Until he has more energy, I'll just take him to a playcenter a couple

of mornings per week.

I don't have any answers - just wanted to add this because it's a

concern for us too, and I'll be interested to hear if anyone has any

insights.

(Tyler, 29 mos, 20.5 lbs, 32.5 " , and , 14 mos)

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm also really interested in hearing other people's answers to this

question. Tyler, who's about 2 1/2, still has a 3-hour nap every

afternoon. He'd sleep for 4 hours, but we decided that was too long

and usually wake him from a deep sleep. Most of the other kids this

age don't sleep at all - the ones who do only sleep for about 1 1/2

hours at most.

From everything you've said, she's doing so well on growth hormones

(increasing strength, growth and better moods) that I thought GHT

would also provide more energy. I don't have any personal experience

with growth hormones, so this was just my perception.

Do you know what to do about school if she hasn't grown out of it by

next year? Most kids in New Zealand start afternoon kindergarten 3

days per week at age 3, but there's no way we can send Tyler if he's

still so tired. I don't mind keeping him home at age 3, but I don't

want him to miss out when all of the other kids his age are going.

Until he has more energy, I'll just take him to a playcenter a couple

of mornings per week.

I don't have any answers - just wanted to add this because it's a

concern for us too, and I'll be interested to hear if anyone has any

insights.

(Tyler, 29 mos, 20.5 lbs, 32.5 " , and , 14 mos)

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I just thought I would throw in my two cents, since and Tyler

are very close in age and size. (27 mos) sleeps a good 2 to

2 1/2 hrs for a nap when he is here at home. At daycare he sleeps a

little less, 1 1/2 to 2 hrs, since there is more commotion there. He

sleeps at night from 8:30 pm to about 7:00 am, but will occasionally

sleep until 8:00 am if he doesn't have to go to daycare. I don't see

where he gets more worn out than others his age when he is awake. He

seems to have as much energy as other kids his age. However, I do

see if he hasn't eaten well on a particular day, he has less energy

and is rather cranky.

has always been a relatively " good " sleeper even when he was

a baby. My best friend has a son six months older than , and

he takes 1 to 1 1/2 hr naps, and sleeps about 10 hrs at night.

Sandy - Mom to , 27 mos, 21.75 lbs, 33.25 inches.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I just thought I would throw in my two cents, since and Tyler

are very close in age and size. (27 mos) sleeps a good 2 to

2 1/2 hrs for a nap when he is here at home. At daycare he sleeps a

little less, 1 1/2 to 2 hrs, since there is more commotion there. He

sleeps at night from 8:30 pm to about 7:00 am, but will occasionally

sleep until 8:00 am if he doesn't have to go to daycare. I don't see

where he gets more worn out than others his age when he is awake. He

seems to have as much energy as other kids his age. However, I do

see if he hasn't eaten well on a particular day, he has less energy

and is rather cranky.

has always been a relatively " good " sleeper even when he was

a baby. My best friend has a son six months older than , and

he takes 1 to 1 1/2 hr naps, and sleeps about 10 hrs at night.

Sandy - Mom to , 27 mos, 21.75 lbs, 33.25 inches.

[Guest guest]

Hi

I have exactly the same problem with Christian.Here in the UK children

generally start school[9.00-11.30]5 days a week from between 31/2 to 4 years

old depending on when their b'days are.They then start full time[9.00-3.15]

when they are 41/2 to 5 years.Christian was always exhausted after nursery

and I really didn't think he would make it through the day when he went full

time but stangely enough he doesn't seem any more tired.He is still worn out

but no more than in Nursery.He seems to keep going as long as he doesn't

stop.I guess just like us,as soon as we stop we are suddenly

shattered!!!Christian is on the 25 centile and I have asked lots of times

about his energy levels and I have just been told that " IT'S AN RSS THING " .

It's the same with Christians strengh,he looks like a 100metre runner from

the waist down [since Gh]but he really lacks strengh of children the same

age,it doesn't make sense to have muscles without strength.Anyway I can't

help you but If you find out keep us informed

Joanne

Mum to Christian rss ,gh.38 ish lbs and 108 ish cms tall[42.5 " ]

Why is so much more tired than other kids?

> Can anyone with experience help me understand why tires so much

easier than her peers?

>

> I mean, she is now in the 10%'tile of the weight chart, and 25 " tile of the

height, so it isn't too bad. She is 5.5 yrs old and just started

kindergarden.

>

> She sleeps 11.5 hours at night. Wakes around 7:15am, gets dressed and

eats a good breakfast. Kindergarden starts at 8am. She has a carbo snack

at 9:10am. A mini-lunch at 10:10am (half a sandwhich and a yogurt for

example). But when I pick her up at 11:20am, she is BEAT!!! Sometimes I

carry her down the hill and she is almost asleep my shoulder.

>

> And yet her peers are all raring to go, planning play dates, etc.

>

> I take her home and she has quiet time (gulp, I do let her watch TV for a

while while she eats again). Around 3pm, she is ready to rare again, do

sports or play.

>

> I am wondering why she gets so tired by 11:20am? Is it calories? Is it

just that she is still so thin? Any ideas?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

I have exactly the same problem with Christian.Here in the UK children

generally start school[9.00-11.30]5 days a week from between 31/2 to 4 years

old depending on when their b'days are.They then start full time[9.00-3.15]

when they are 41/2 to 5 years.Christian was always exhausted after nursery

and I really didn't think he would make it through the day when he went full

time but stangely enough he doesn't seem any more tired.He is still worn out

but no more than in Nursery.He seems to keep going as long as he doesn't

stop.I guess just like us,as soon as we stop we are suddenly

shattered!!!Christian is on the 25 centile and I have asked lots of times

about his energy levels and I have just been told that " IT'S AN RSS THING " .

It's the same with Christians strengh,he looks like a 100metre runner from

the waist down [since Gh]but he really lacks strengh of children the same

age,it doesn't make sense to have muscles without strength.Anyway I can't

help you but If you find out keep us informed

Joanne

Mum to Christian rss ,gh.38 ish lbs and 108 ish cms tall[42.5 " ]

Why is so much more tired than other kids?

> Can anyone with experience help me understand why tires so much

easier than her peers?

>

> I mean, she is now in the 10%'tile of the weight chart, and 25 " tile of the

height, so it isn't too bad. She is 5.5 yrs old and just started

kindergarden.

>

> She sleeps 11.5 hours at night. Wakes around 7:15am, gets dressed and

eats a good breakfast. Kindergarden starts at 8am. She has a carbo snack

at 9:10am. A mini-lunch at 10:10am (half a sandwhich and a yogurt for

example). But when I pick her up at 11:20am, she is BEAT!!! Sometimes I

carry her down the hill and she is almost asleep my shoulder.

>

> And yet her peers are all raring to go, planning play dates, etc.

>

> I take her home and she has quiet time (gulp, I do let her watch TV for a

while while she eats again). Around 3pm, she is ready to rare again, do

sports or play.

>

> I am wondering why she gets so tired by 11:20am? Is it calories? Is it

just that she is still so thin? Any ideas?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Debby -

I never would have thought about asking the school to schedule the

more academic subjects in the morning. That's a great idea - he

definitely has lots of energy before 11:30! We'll just have to see

if they listen to me since I don't know if he'll get anything like an

IEP here.

Also, since kids start a full-day of school on their 5th birthday (I

know it's strange - they don't at the beginning of the year - they

just come in on the day they turn 5), I'd imagine that lots of the 5

year-olds and maybe even the 6 year-olds would benefit from having

those subjects in the morning!

(Tyler, 29 mos, 20.5 lbs, 32.5 " , and , 14 mos)

[Guest guest]

,

At my school, we make sure that all kids up to the age of 12 have math,

language arts and reading before they eat lunch at noon. They are just too

tired after lunch for such important subjects. It amazes me that other

schools don't always think of this. I hate it when the school makes the

child fit the routine instead of the other way around.

Jodi

>From: wilkinsonz@...

>Reply-To: RSS-Support

>To: RSS-Support

>Subject: Re: Why is so much more tired than other

>kids?

>Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 00:51:16 -0000

>

>Thanks Debby -

>

>I never would have thought about asking the school to schedule the

>more academic subjects in the morning. That's a great idea - he

>definitely has lots of energy before 11:30! We'll just have to see

>if they listen to me since I don't know if he'll get anything like an

>IEP here.

>

>Also, since kids start a full-day of school on their 5th birthday (I

>know it's strange - they don't at the beginning of the year - they

>just come in on the day they turn 5), I'd imagine that lots of the 5

>year-olds and maybe even the 6 year-olds would benefit from having

>those subjects in the morning!

>

> (Tyler, 29 mos, 20.5 lbs, 32.5 " , and , 14 mos)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

At my school, we make sure that all kids up to the age of 12 have math,

language arts and reading before they eat lunch at noon. They are just too

tired after lunch for such important subjects. It amazes me that other

schools don't always think of this. I hate it when the school makes the

child fit the routine instead of the other way around.

Jodi

>From: wilkinsonz@...

>Reply-To: RSS-Support

>To: RSS-Support

>Subject: Re: Why is so much more tired than other

>kids?

>Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 00:51:16 -0000

>

>Thanks Debby -

>

>I never would have thought about asking the school to schedule the

>more academic subjects in the morning. That's a great idea - he

>definitely has lots of energy before 11:30! We'll just have to see

>if they listen to me since I don't know if he'll get anything like an

>IEP here.

>

>Also, since kids start a full-day of school on their 5th birthday (I

>know it's strange - they don't at the beginning of the year - they

>just come in on the day they turn 5), I'd imagine that lots of the 5

>year-olds and maybe even the 6 year-olds would benefit from having

>those subjects in the morning!

>

> (Tyler, 29 mos, 20.5 lbs, 32.5 " , and , 14 mos)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

So how does your whole school manage to get every grade the proper number of

hours in the gym, library, music, and in our case French as well classes if

all the classes under the age of 12 need only afternoon slots? In our school

that would be 16 classes who have to have 1 hour a week of gym, music, etc.

all in the afternoons. How does you school manage the time tabling? I would

love to present your methods to my school because it would solve a huge

dilemma for us.

Thanks Jodi

Debby

Re: Why is so much more tired than other

> >kids?

> >Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 00:51:16 -0000

> >

> >Thanks Debby -

> >

> >I never would have thought about asking the school to schedule the

> >more academic subjects in the morning. That's a great idea - he

> >definitely has lots of energy before 11:30! We'll just have to see

> >if they listen to me since I don't know if he'll get anything like an

> >IEP here.

> >

> >Also, since kids start a full-day of school on their 5th birthday (I

> >know it's strange - they don't at the beginning of the year - they

> >just come in on the day they turn 5), I'd imagine that lots of the 5

> >year-olds and maybe even the 6 year-olds would benefit from having

> >those subjects in the morning!

> >

> > (Tyler, 29 mos, 20.5 lbs, 32.5 " , and , 14 mos)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

They have gym, music, science, social studies, Spanish, art, etc. in the

afternoon, after lunch. The older kids, grades 7 and 8 have a more mixed up

schedule. I don't make it up, though. The director does.

Jodi

>

>Reply-To: RSS-Support

>To: <RSS-Support >

>Subject: Re: Re: Why is so much more tired than other

>kids?

>Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:25:14 -0400

>

>So how does your whole school manage to get every grade the proper number

>of

>hours in the gym, library, music, and in our case French as well classes if

>all the classes under the age of 12 need only afternoon slots? In our

>school

>that would be 16 classes who have to have 1 hour a week of gym, music, etc.

>all in the afternoons. How does you school manage the time tabling? I would

>love to present your methods to my school because it would solve a huge

>dilemma for us.

>

>Thanks Jodi

>Debby

> Re: Why is so much more tired than other

> > >kids?

> > >Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 00:51:16 -0000

> > >

> > >Thanks Debby -

> > >

> > >I never would have thought about asking the school to schedule the

> > >more academic subjects in the morning. That's a great idea - he

> > >definitely has lots of energy before 11:30! We'll just have to see

> > >if they listen to me since I don't know if he'll get anything like an

> > >IEP here.

> > >

> > >Also, since kids start a full-day of school on their 5th birthday (I

> > >know it's strange - they don't at the beginning of the year - they

> > >just come in on the day they turn 5), I'd imagine that lots of the 5

> > >year-olds and maybe even the 6 year-olds would benefit from having

> > >those subjects in the morning!

> > >

> > > (Tyler, 29 mos, 20.5 lbs, 32.5 " , and , 14 mos)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I guess your school is much smaller than ours Jodi, that's why that perfect

system can work for you. But we manage to do quite well with what we have.

Generally as the children get to grades 4 and up they should learn to

" learn " all day and not in the mornings. My God if they didn't start to get

use to it, they'd never manage high school, university or a job. But I would

say most days of the week we can get math/language in the morning.

Actually our school system is on the leading edge of a wonderful new way of

teaching language. We started it a number of years ago and it is showing

huge gains. It's called Balanced Literacy. And in actual fact we do language

ALL day. We have a number of blocks that language occurs in, and even if

it's reading buddies, that can happen in the afternoon. We celebrate

language morning and afternoon.

But for Adam's IEP, if the teacher wants heavy results of work done, it's

got to be in the a.m.

Debby

Re: Why is so much more tired than

other

> > > >kids?

> > > >Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 00:51:16 -0000

> > > >

> > > >Thanks Debby -

> > > >

> > > >I never would have thought about asking the school to schedule the

> > > >more academic subjects in the morning. That's a great idea - he

> > > >definitely has lots of energy before 11:30! We'll just have to see

> > > >if they listen to me since I don't know if he'll get anything like an

> > > >IEP here.

> > > >

> > > >Also, since kids start a full-day of school on their 5th birthday (I

> > > >know it's strange - they don't at the beginning of the year - they

> > > >just come in on the day they turn 5), I'd imagine that lots of the 5

> > > >year-olds and maybe even the 6 year-olds would benefit from having

> > > >those subjects in the morning!

> > > >

> > > > (Tyler, 29 mos, 20.5 lbs, 32.5 " , and , 14 mos)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Resending as first one never made it.

Re: Why is so much more tired than

> other

> > > > >kids?

> > > > >Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 00:51:16 -0000

> > > > >

> > > > >Thanks Debby -

> > > > >

> > > > >I never would have thought about asking the school to schedule the

> > > > >more academic subjects in the morning. That's a great idea - he

> > > > >definitely has lots of energy before 11:30! We'll just have to see

> > > > >if they listen to me since I don't know if he'll get anything like

an

> > > > >IEP here.

> > > > >

> > > > >Also, since kids start a full-day of school on their 5th birthday

(I

> > > > >know it's strange - they don't at the beginning of the year - they

> > > > >just come in on the day they turn 5), I'd imagine that lots of the

5

> > > > >year-olds and maybe even the 6 year-olds would benefit from having

> > > > >those subjects in the morning!

> > > > >

> > > > > (Tyler, 29 mos, 20.5 lbs, 32.5 " , and , 14 mos)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Resending as first one never made it.

Re: Why is so much more tired than

> other

> > > > >kids?

> > > > >Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 00:51:16 -0000

> > > > >

> > > > >Thanks Debby -

> > > > >

> > > > >I never would have thought about asking the school to schedule the

> > > > >more academic subjects in the morning. That's a great idea - he

> > > > >definitely has lots of energy before 11:30! We'll just have to see

> > > > >if they listen to me since I don't know if he'll get anything like

an

> > > > >IEP here.

> > > > >

> > > > >Also, since kids start a full-day of school on their 5th birthday

(I

> > > > >know it's strange - they don't at the beginning of the year - they

> > > > >just come in on the day they turn 5), I'd imagine that lots of the

5

> > > > >year-olds and maybe even the 6 year-olds would benefit from having

> > > > >those subjects in the morning!

> > > > >

> > > > > (Tyler, 29 mos, 20.5 lbs, 32.5 " , and , 14 mos)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Everyone - I have NO idea what I will do next year if she hasn't grown out of

this. Right now, kindergarden here in our town is only 3 hours long. 8am to

11:20am. With only 20 minutes of that being outdoor play of any kind. Once 1st

grade starts and she goes another 2 hours....

I am guessing that mentally, she is simply more tired than others. There is a

side of me that would love to stop the Periactin and see if her fatigue with

school got any better. Hmmmm....

RSS-Support wrote:

>

and

>

I didn't jump in on this discussion before because I'm not sure, with

>

growing so well, what it could be. Now for Adam, he is still way

>

below in his growth charts and he is a little guy expected to do a lot. He

>

seems to have boundless energy (you do remember him at the conference

>

waiting for Dr. H.!) but he does seem to have a much more difficult time

>

tiring when it comes to school work.

>

>

So I have written in to his IEP, at the recommendation of the psych.

>

assessment and O/T was that the teacher schedule the main academic subjects

>

(math and Language in the morning when he is still fresh). It's still too

>

early to see how that will evolve as we are starting it this school year.

>

Is there a mental component, ie. their bodies are not capable of producing

>

the energy needed for school (mental functioning) and physical functioning?

>

I'm only speculating.

>

Also for Adam, writing for any length of time tires him out as his muscles

>

are weaker than the other kids in his class.

>

>

So I offer that to you all as a possible IEP modification if you think it is

>

necessary and something else for us to consider.

>

>

Debby

>

Re: Why is so much more tired than other

>

kids?

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

>

>

> I'm also really interested in hearing other people's answers to this

>

> question. Tyler, who's about 2 1/2, still has a 3-hour nap every

>

> afternoon. He'd sleep for 4 hours, but we decided that was too long

>

> and usually wake him from a deep sleep. Most of the other kids this

>

> age don't sleep at all - the ones who do only sleep for about 1 1/2

>

> hours at most.

>

>

>

> >From everything you've said, she's doing so well on growth hormones

>

> (increasing strength, growth and better moods) that I thought GHT

>

> would also provide more energy. I don't have any personal experience

>

> with growth hormones, so this was just my perception.

>

>

>

> Do you know what to do about school if she hasn't grown out of it by

>

> next year? Most kids in New Zealand start afternoon kindergarten 3

>

> days per week at age 3, but there's no way we can send Tyler if he's

>

> still so tired. I don't mind keeping him home at age 3, but I don't

>

> want him to miss out when all of the other kids his age are going.

>

> Until he has more energy, I'll just take him to a playcenter a couple

>

> of mornings per week.

>

>

>

> I don't have any answers - just wanted to add this because it's a

>

> concern for us too, and I'll be interested to hear if anyone has any

>

> insights.

>

>

>

> (Tyler, 29 mos, 20.5 lbs, 32.5 " , and , 14 mos)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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>

>

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[Guest guest]

Everyone - I have NO idea what I will do next year if she hasn't grown out of

this. Right now, kindergarden here in our town is only 3 hours long. 8am to

11:20am. With only 20 minutes of that being outdoor play of any kind. Once 1st

grade starts and she goes another 2 hours....

I am guessing that mentally, she is simply more tired than others. There is a

side of me that would love to stop the Periactin and see if her fatigue with

school got any better. Hmmmm....

RSS-Support wrote:

>

and

>

I didn't jump in on this discussion before because I'm not sure, with

>

growing so well, what it could be. Now for Adam, he is still way

>

below in his growth charts and he is a little guy expected to do a lot. He

>

seems to have boundless energy (you do remember him at the conference

>

waiting for Dr. H.!) but he does seem to have a much more difficult time

>

tiring when it comes to school work.

>

>

So I have written in to his IEP, at the recommendation of the psych.

>

assessment and O/T was that the teacher schedule the main academic subjects

>

(math and Language in the morning when he is still fresh). It's still too

>

early to see how that will evolve as we are starting it this school year.

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Is there a mental component, ie. their bodies are not capable of producing

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the energy needed for school (mental functioning) and physical functioning?

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I'm only speculating.

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Also for Adam, writing for any length of time tires him out as his muscles

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are weaker than the other kids in his class.

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>

So I offer that to you all as a possible IEP modification if you think it is

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necessary and something else for us to consider.

>

>

Debby

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Re: Why is so much more tired than other

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kids?

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>

> Hi ,

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>

> I'm also really interested in hearing other people's answers to this

>

> question. Tyler, who's about 2 1/2, still has a 3-hour nap every

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> afternoon. He'd sleep for 4 hours, but we decided that was too long

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> and usually wake him from a deep sleep. Most of the other kids this

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> age don't sleep at all - the ones who do only sleep for about 1 1/2

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> hours at most.

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>

>

> >From everything you've said, she's doing so well on growth hormones

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> (increasing strength, growth and better moods) that I thought GHT

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> would also provide more energy. I don't have any personal experience

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> with growth hormones, so this was just my perception.

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>

>

> Do you know what to do about school if she hasn't grown out of it by

>

> next year? Most kids in New Zealand start afternoon kindergarten 3

>

> days per week at age 3, but there's no way we can send Tyler if he's

>

> still so tired. I don't mind keeping him home at age 3, but I don't

>

> want him to miss out when all of the other kids his age are going.

>

> Until he has more energy, I'll just take him to a playcenter a couple

>

> of mornings per week.

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>

>

> I don't have any answers - just wanted to add this because it's a

>

> concern for us too, and I'll be interested to hear if anyone has any

>

> insights.

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> (Tyler, 29 mos, 20.5 lbs, 32.5 " , and , 14 mos)

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[Guest guest]

Everyone - I have NO idea what I will do next year if she hasn't grown out of

this. Right now, kindergarden here in our town is only 3 hours long. 8am to

11:20am. With only 20 minutes of that being outdoor play of any kind. Once 1st

grade starts and she goes another 2 hours....

I am guessing that mentally, she is simply more tired than others. There is a

side of me that would love to stop the Periactin and see if her fatigue with

school got any better. Hmmmm....

RSS-Support wrote:

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and

>

I didn't jump in on this discussion before because I'm not sure, with

>

growing so well, what it could be. Now for Adam, he is still way

>

below in his growth charts and he is a little guy expected to do a lot. He

>

seems to have boundless energy (you do remember him at the conference

>

waiting for Dr. H.!) but he does seem to have a much more difficult time

>

tiring when it comes to school work.

>

>

So I have written in to his IEP, at the recommendation of the psych.

>

assessment and O/T was that the teacher schedule the main academic subjects

>

(math and Language in the morning when he is still fresh). It's still too

>

early to see how that will evolve as we are starting it this school year.

>

Is there a mental component, ie. their bodies are not capable of producing

>

the energy needed for school (mental functioning) and physical functioning?

>

I'm only speculating.

>

Also for Adam, writing for any length of time tires him out as his muscles

>

are weaker than the other kids in his class.

>

>

So I offer that to you all as a possible IEP modification if you think it is

>

necessary and something else for us to consider.

>

>

Debby

>

Re: Why is so much more tired than other

>

kids?

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

>

>

> I'm also really interested in hearing other people's answers to this

>

> question. Tyler, who's about 2 1/2, still has a 3-hour nap every

>

> afternoon. He'd sleep for 4 hours, but we decided that was too long

>

> and usually wake him from a deep sleep. Most of the other kids this

>

> age don't sleep at all - the ones who do only sleep for about 1 1/2

>

> hours at most.

>

>

>

> >From everything you've said, she's doing so well on growth hormones

>

> (increasing strength, growth and better moods) that I thought GHT

>

> would also provide more energy. I don't have any personal experience

>

> with growth hormones, so this was just my perception.

>

>

>

> Do you know what to do about school if she hasn't grown out of it by

>

> next year? Most kids in New Zealand start afternoon kindergarten 3

>

> days per week at age 3, but there's no way we can send Tyler if he's

>

> still so tired. I don't mind keeping him home at age 3, but I don't

>

> want him to miss out when all of the other kids his age are going.

>

> Until he has more energy, I'll just take him to a playcenter a couple

>

> of mornings per week.

>

>

>

> I don't have any answers - just wanted to add this because it's a

>

> concern for us too, and I'll be interested to hear if anyone has any

>

> insights.

>

>

>

> (Tyler, 29 mos, 20.5 lbs, 32.5 " , and , 14 mos)

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[Guest guest]

:

Maybe is because his tinny condition, my son is very active, but of

course he gets tired sooner than another kids of his same age, or some

times, he needs to rest more than the others to recover his energy.

Just a thought

Betty

Why is so much more tired than

other kids?

Can anyone with experience help me understand why tires so much

easier than her peers?

I mean, she is now in the 10%'tile of the weight chart, and 25 " tile of

the height, so it isn't too bad. She is 5.5 yrs old and just started

kindergarden.

She sleeps 11.5 hours at night. Wakes around 7:15am, gets dressed and

eats a good breakfast. Kindergarden starts at 8am. She has a carbo

snack at 9:10am. A mini-lunch at 10:10am (half a sandwhich and a yogurt

for example). But when I pick her up at 11:20am, she is BEAT!!!

Sometimes I carry her down the hill and she is almost asleep my

shoulder.

And yet her peers are all raring to go, planning play dates, etc.

I take her home and she has quiet time (gulp, I do let her watch TV for

a while while she eats again). Around 3pm, she is ready to rare again,

do sports or play.

I am wondering why she gets so tired by 11:20am? Is it calories? Is it

just that she is still so thin? Any ideas?

[Guest guest]

:

Maybe is because his tinny condition, my son is very active, but of

course he gets tired sooner than another kids of his same age, or some

times, he needs to rest more than the others to recover his energy.

Just a thought

Betty

Why is so much more tired than

other kids?

Can anyone with experience help me understand why tires so much

easier than her peers?

I mean, she is now in the 10%'tile of the weight chart, and 25 " tile of

the height, so it isn't too bad. She is 5.5 yrs old and just started

kindergarden.

She sleeps 11.5 hours at night. Wakes around 7:15am, gets dressed and

eats a good breakfast. Kindergarden starts at 8am. She has a carbo

snack at 9:10am. A mini-lunch at 10:10am (half a sandwhich and a yogurt

for example). But when I pick her up at 11:20am, she is BEAT!!!

Sometimes I carry her down the hill and she is almost asleep my

shoulder.

And yet her peers are all raring to go, planning play dates, etc.

I take her home and she has quiet time (gulp, I do let her watch TV for

a while while she eats again). Around 3pm, she is ready to rare again,

do sports or play.

I am wondering why she gets so tired by 11:20am? Is it calories? Is it

just that she is still so thin? Any ideas?

[Guest guest]

Debby - yes, she is on GH, Humatrope, for 11 months now. She has gained lots of

weight and muscle tone, but her fatigue level has not been affected. Sleeping

12 hours at night, but I can't seem to get her to sleep during the day, despite

the yawning, tantrums, etc. even driving her in the car no longer works.

I have pulled back on the morning Periactin for a while, and am having her rest

each afternoon after school. I am going to see if this helps her get through

the first few weeks of school. Thanks

RSS-Support wrote:

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>

I can't remember but is on GH yet? Now with Adam, he couldn't make

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it through the day either. He fell asleep during story time. The teacher

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couldn't believe it, not just the nods, but right out and out sound asleep.

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Anyhow, when he hit grade 1 I had no idea how he would do. But he managed to

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keep going through the day. But crashed the minute he got home. That was the

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hard part, because then he'd either miss dinner, or eat around 10 pm or

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worse be up all night!! That really didn't change for us completely until we

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started GH in January. He's only fallen asleep in his dinner once since

>

starting it.

>

Anyway, what it's worth I think our kids rise to the challenge and keep

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going until they hit home and " down time " .

>

>

Debby

>

Re: Why is so much more tired than other

>

> >

>

> kids?

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Hi ,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > I'm also really interested in hearing other people's answers to this

>

> >

>

> > question. Tyler, who's about 2 1/2, still has a 3-hour nap every

>

> >

>

> > afternoon. He'd sleep for 4 hours, but we decided that was too long

>

> >

>

> > and usually wake him from a deep sleep. Most of the other kids this

>

> >

>

> > age don't sleep at all - the ones who do only sleep for about 1 1/2

>

> >

>

> > hours at most.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > >From everything you've said, she's doing so well on growth hormones

>

> >

>

> > (increasing strength, growth and better moods) that I thought GHT

>

> >

>

> > would also provide more energy. I don't have any personal experience

>

> >

>

> > with growth hormones, so this was just my perception.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Do you know what to do about school if she hasn't grown out of it by

>

> >

>

> > next year? Most kids in New Zealand start afternoon kindergarten 3

>

> >

>

> > days per week at age 3, but there's no way we can send Tyler if he's

>

> >

>

> > still so tired. I don't mind keeping him home at age 3, but I don't

>

> >

>

> > want him to miss out when all of the other kids his age are going.

>

> >

>

> > Until he has more energy, I'll just take him to a playcenter a couple

>

> >

>

> > of mornings per week.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > I don't have any answers - just wanted to add this because it's a

>

> >

>

> > concern for us too, and I'll be interested to hear if anyone has any

>

> >

>

> > insights.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

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> > (Tyler, 29 mos, 20.5 lbs, 32.5 " , and , 14 mos)

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[Guest guest]

- as usual I'm always late in replying but your message struck

chords with me....

I have found that when Sapphire has a growth spurt she always sleeps more.

When you think about all that is going on in 's little body to

produce the extra height and size all over and the energy taken up by

growing it seems to me that something else less has to give.

In the past I have fostered teenagers and on a visit to the doctor about why

one teenager was always so tired he said it was because she was growing and

all her energy was directed into growing. He said this was quite normal and

that when her growth rate slowed down her tiredness would lessen. It makes

sense to me....What do you think?

Kindness always

& Sapphire

Why is so much more tired than other kids?

> Can anyone with experience help me understand why tires so much

easier than her peers?

>

> I mean, she is now in the 10%'tile of the weight chart, and 25 " tile of the

height, so it isn't too bad. She is 5.5 yrs old and just started

kindergarden.

>

> She sleeps 11.5 hours at night. Wakes around 7:15am, gets dressed and

eats a good breakfast. Kindergarden starts at 8am. She has a carbo snack

at 9:10am. A mini-lunch at 10:10am (half a sandwhich and a yogurt for

example). But when I pick her up at 11:20am, she is BEAT!!! Sometimes I

carry her down the hill and she is almost asleep my shoulder.

>

> And yet her peers are all raring to go, planning play dates, etc.

>

> I take her home and she has quiet time (gulp, I do let her watch TV for a

while while she eats again). Around 3pm, she is ready to rare again, do

sports or play.

>

> I am wondering why she gets so tired by 11:20am? Is it calories? Is it

just that she is still so thin? Any ideas?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>