Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 I'm in the same boat. Within the last year I've developed a wicked allergy to fish (I don't eat shellfish, so I don't know about that). My doc says it's not worth testing over. The test is only 50% accurate, and what I'm having (hives, asthma attack) is very obviously an allergic reaction. An interesting aside...my older brother developed the same allergy at about the same time in life. Neither of us have a clue...but we both miss our orange roughy! Kim in Hotlanta Re: Allergies You didn't say what foods are causing the problem? And you said that they did not repeat when tested alone? I mean, one of my friends became allergic to these 3 that often go together at about age 35. legumes dairy shellfish Ring any bells? Another friend found herself allergic to iodine (seafood) about age 37 or so. And my ex suddenly became allergic to penicillin at age 35. Interesting, yes? Thanks, www.vitalady.com For info on PayPal, click this link: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Allergies > Has anyone had any food allergies since WLS? I am 21 months post-op > and I am having horrific food allergies. I must keep liquid Benadryl > with me at all times. > > The symptoms are: > 1. Hives and welts on my face, scalp, armpits, and pubic area. > 2. Swelling of eyes and mouth. > 3. Intense itching. > 4. Difficulty breathing. > > The foods that cause my reaction are foods that I have always eaten or > have grown-up on. > > I did a test last week after I had an allergic reaction after eating > dinner. The next day, I ate the same foods one at a time. Amazingly, > I did not have a reaction to anything. I ate the same food again the > next day, and no reaction. > > I had a horrific reaction last night and I am scared. I need to drink > more Benadryl and it is taking longer to work. > > I have an appointment with an allergist soon. But the doctor sounds > just as confused as I am. Any help would be appreciated. > > > ===== > Peace and blessings, > M > Post-op, Proximal Open RNY, December 8, 1999 > Dr. T.H. Magnuson, s Hopkins Bayview Medical Center > BMI 41, 5'2 " , 228 lbs > Panniculectomy June 15, 2001(Removed 2.5lbs of skin and fat) > August 12, 2001: 122 lbs (My goal is 120 lbs) > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 I've read that the body and possible allergies change every seven years. I myself continue to develop new allergies to antibiotics. I was given an antibiotic in IV prior to PS and nearly died right there in surgery center. It was garamyacin, which I had successfully taken in the past. Who knows about these wonderfully strange bodies of ours. --- Kim in Hotlanta wrote: > I'm in the same boat. Within the last year I've > developed a wicked allergy > to fish (I don't eat shellfish, so I don't know > about that). My doc says > it's not worth testing over. The test is only 50% > accurate, and what I'm > having (hives, asthma attack) is very obviously an > allergic reaction. An > interesting aside...my older brother developed the > same allergy at about the > same time in life. Neither of us have a clue...but > we both miss our orange > roughy! > > Kim in Hotlanta > > Re: Allergies > > > You didn't say what foods are causing the problem? > And you said that they > did not repeat when tested alone? I mean, one of my > friends became allergic > to these 3 that often go together at about age 35. > legumes > dairy > shellfish > > Ring any bells? > > Another friend found herself allergic to iodine > (seafood) about age 37 or > so. > > And my ex suddenly became allergic to penicillin at > age 35. > > Interesting, yes? > > Thanks, > > > www.vitalady.com > > For info on PayPal, click this link: > https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com > > > Allergies > > > > Has anyone had any food allergies since WLS? I am > 21 months post-op > > and I am having horrific food allergies. I must > keep liquid Benadryl > > with me at all times. > > > > The symptoms are: > > 1. Hives and welts on my face, scalp, armpits, and > pubic area. > > 2. Swelling of eyes and mouth. > > 3. Intense itching. > > 4. Difficulty breathing. > > > > The foods that cause my reaction are foods that I > have always eaten or > > have grown-up on. > > > > I did a test last week after I had an allergic > reaction after eating > > dinner. The next day, I ate the same foods one at > a time. Amazingly, > > I did not have a reaction to anything. I ate the > same food again the > > next day, and no reaction. > > > > I had a horrific reaction last night and I am > scared. I need to drink > > more Benadryl and it is taking longer to work. > > > > I have an appointment with an allergist soon. But > the doctor sounds > > just as confused as I am. Any help would be > appreciated. > > > > > > ===== > > Peace and blessings, > > M > > Post-op, Proximal Open RNY, December 8, 1999 > > Dr. T.H. Magnuson, s Hopkins Bayview Medical > Center > > BMI 41, 5'2 " , 228 lbs > > Panniculectomy June 15, 2001(Removed 2.5lbs of > skin and fat) > > August 12, 2001: 122 lbs (My goal is 120 lbs) > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > > Donate cash, emergency relief information > > > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > > > > Homepage: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > > > Unsubscribe: > mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 I've read that the body and possible allergies change every seven years. I myself continue to develop new allergies to antibiotics. I was given an antibiotic in IV prior to PS and nearly died right there in surgery center. It was garamyacin, which I had successfully taken in the past. Who knows about these wonderfully strange bodies of ours. --- Kim in Hotlanta wrote: > I'm in the same boat. Within the last year I've > developed a wicked allergy > to fish (I don't eat shellfish, so I don't know > about that). My doc says > it's not worth testing over. The test is only 50% > accurate, and what I'm > having (hives, asthma attack) is very obviously an > allergic reaction. An > interesting aside...my older brother developed the > same allergy at about the > same time in life. Neither of us have a clue...but > we both miss our orange > roughy! > > Kim in Hotlanta > > Re: Allergies > > > You didn't say what foods are causing the problem? > And you said that they > did not repeat when tested alone? I mean, one of my > friends became allergic > to these 3 that often go together at about age 35. > legumes > dairy > shellfish > > Ring any bells? > > Another friend found herself allergic to iodine > (seafood) about age 37 or > so. > > And my ex suddenly became allergic to penicillin at > age 35. > > Interesting, yes? > > Thanks, > > > www.vitalady.com > > For info on PayPal, click this link: > https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com > > > Allergies > > > > Has anyone had any food allergies since WLS? I am > 21 months post-op > > and I am having horrific food allergies. I must > keep liquid Benadryl > > with me at all times. > > > > The symptoms are: > > 1. Hives and welts on my face, scalp, armpits, and > pubic area. > > 2. Swelling of eyes and mouth. > > 3. Intense itching. > > 4. Difficulty breathing. > > > > The foods that cause my reaction are foods that I > have always eaten or > > have grown-up on. > > > > I did a test last week after I had an allergic > reaction after eating > > dinner. The next day, I ate the same foods one at > a time. Amazingly, > > I did not have a reaction to anything. I ate the > same food again the > > next day, and no reaction. > > > > I had a horrific reaction last night and I am > scared. I need to drink > > more Benadryl and it is taking longer to work. > > > > I have an appointment with an allergist soon. But > the doctor sounds > > just as confused as I am. Any help would be > appreciated. > > > > > > ===== > > Peace and blessings, > > M > > Post-op, Proximal Open RNY, December 8, 1999 > > Dr. T.H. Magnuson, s Hopkins Bayview Medical > Center > > BMI 41, 5'2 " , 228 lbs > > Panniculectomy June 15, 2001(Removed 2.5lbs of > skin and fat) > > August 12, 2001: 122 lbs (My goal is 120 lbs) > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > > Donate cash, emergency relief information > > > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > > > > Homepage: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > > > Unsubscribe: > mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2001 Report Share Posted September 19, 2001 My problem has been that if I eat something and have an allergic reaction, I will not have a reaction if I eat it again at another time. The only constant has been peanuts. So I stay away from them. Funny, I grew up on peanut butter. The other night, I had a typical meal of chicken, rice, and broccoli. Shortly after I ate, I started getting welts and hives on my face, scalp, armpits, and pubic area. The itching was unbearable. I did a test the next day, and ate the same thing for lunch (with a bottle of benadryl nearby) and nothing. No reaction. I had the same thing the next day and still nothing. That's whats so frustrating. I can eat something one day, and the next day or next week, no reaction. Peace, M > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:11:12 -0700 > > Subject: Re: Allergies > > You didn't say what foods are causing the problem? And you said that > they > did not repeat when tested alone? I mean, one of my friends became > allergic > to these 3 that often go together at about age 35. > legumes > dairy > shellfish > > Ring any bells? > > Another friend found herself allergic to iodine (seafood) about age > 37 or > so. > > And my ex suddenly became allergic to penicillin at age 35. > > Interesting, yes? > > Thanks, > > > www.vitalady.com > > For info on PayPal, click this link: > https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com > > > Allergies > > > > Has anyone had any food allergies since WLS? I am 21 months > post-op > > and I am having horrific food allergies. I must keep liquid > Benadryl > > with me at all times. > > > > The symptoms are: > > 1. Hives and welts on my face, scalp, armpits, and pubic area. > > 2. Swelling of eyes and mouth. > > 3. Intense itching. > > 4. Difficulty breathing. > > > > The foods that cause my reaction are foods that I have always eaten > or > > have grown-up on. > > > > I did a test last week after I had an allergic reaction after > eating > > dinner. The next day, I ate the same foods one at a time. > Amazingly, > > I did not have a reaction to anything. I ate the same food again > the > > next day, and no reaction. > > > > I had a horrific reaction last night and I am scared. I need to > drink > > more Benadryl and it is taking longer to work. > > > > I have an appointment with an allergist soon. But the doctor > sounds > > just as confused as I am. Any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > ===== > > Peace and blessings, > > M > > Post-op, Proximal Open RNY, December 8, 1999 > > Dr. T.H. Magnuson, s Hopkins Bayview Medical Center > > BMI 41, 5'2 " , 228 lbs > > Panniculectomy June 15, 2001(Removed 2.5lbs of skin and fat) > > August 12, 2001: 122 lbs (My goal is 120 lbs) __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2001 Report Share Posted September 19, 2001 Was the replicated meal left overs? Thanks, www.vitalady.com For info on PayPal, click this link: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Allergies > > > > > > > Has anyone had any food allergies since WLS? I am 21 months > > post-op > > > and I am having horrific food allergies. I must keep liquid > > Benadryl > > > with me at all times. > > > > > > The symptoms are: > > > 1. Hives and welts on my face, scalp, armpits, and pubic area. > > > 2. Swelling of eyes and mouth. > > > 3. Intense itching. > > > 4. Difficulty breathing. > > > > > > The foods that cause my reaction are foods that I have always eaten > > or > > > have grown-up on. > > > > > > I did a test last week after I had an allergic reaction after > > eating > > > dinner. The next day, I ate the same foods one at a time. > > Amazingly, > > > I did not have a reaction to anything. I ate the same food again > > the > > > next day, and no reaction. > > > > > > I had a horrific reaction last night and I am scared. I need to > > drink > > > more Benadryl and it is taking longer to work. > > > > > > I have an appointment with an allergist soon. But the doctor > > sounds > > > just as confused as I am. Any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > Peace and blessings, > > > M > > > Post-op, Proximal Open RNY, December 8, 1999 > > > Dr. T.H. Magnuson, s Hopkins Bayview Medical Center > > > BMI 41, 5'2 " , 228 lbs > > > Panniculectomy June 15, 2001(Removed 2.5lbs of skin and fat) > > > August 12, 2001: 122 lbs (My goal is 120 lbs) > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2001 Report Share Posted October 8, 2001 - be prepared that the dark circles under the eyes of your RSS son may not have anything to do with his allergies. We went around and around on this, on one test would show allergic to milk casings, on another test not. Blah blah. But because she had these dark circles under her eyes (allergy shiners for those of you familiar with allergies), we kept pushing on. Come to find out from the Chief of GI at UCLA Children's, and then confirmed at 's genetics appt and then at her first Dr. H appt, that because these RSS kids have no body fat on them, usually, the " shiners " that we are seeing is simply a result of their not having enough body fat on their face to cover the normal darker part of the under-eye. They said, take a look at photos of anorexics, or other people with drastic weight loss. They almost always have under eye darkness. Come to an RSS MAGIC convention and look at all the RSS kids who are thin.... it is remarkable! I will tell you that with 's recent weight gain, 10 pounds in the last 12 months, her dark circles are hardly noticeable anymore. Salem > Hello Everyone, > > My son Jack has several known food allergies, but we are still trying > to identify others since he continues to show dark circles under the > eyes. Are allergies or dark circles common traits with RSS kids? > > I hope you do not mind my venting, but I am beginning to think that > Jack's allergy doctor just goes through the motions and does not have > a clue in regards to other methods of treatment. My allergist, who > unfortunately does not see children, has done wonders for me and > helped minimize my fibromyalgia. When I mention some of the methods > my allergist uses, he dismisses them as not effective. > > I don't know, maybe I'm being too impatient. I just want instant > results sometime, and I want Jack not to be plagued by any of this. > I wish I had a magic wand to get rid of even the allergies. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2001 Report Share Posted October 15, 2001 " Fred " - Don't forget that virtually all RSS children who are underweight have some type of darker circles under their eyes. This has to do with the low body fat and lack of muscle (you can also often see the veins in their faces and foreheads as well). The allergy idea might sound good except that it you look at these same kids once they have put on weight, the dark circles disappear. But myself, who has grass allergies, despite extra weight, my allergy shiners do not disappear. Therefore, I would also recommend that if your child has no other symptom other than just circles under the eye (and the thinness of RSS), that if skin tests or blood tests don't show an allergy, and there are no other symptoms such as diarrhea, or blood in the stool, or runny nose, or post-nasal drip, or other allergy symptoms, then why put the child through even more tests? Granted, there are RSS children with severe and moderate allergies (just like the normal population). But most have symptoms of some type besides the dark circles under their eyes. I personally would not put my child through more stuff just based on circles under the eyes and no other indication. I would also remind everyone to always check with your doctor, your pharmacist and/or your homeopathic person before using remedies designed for an adult on a child. > > Hello Everyone, > > > > My son Jack has several known food allergies, but we are still > trying > > to identify others since he continues to show dark circles under > the > > eyes. Are allergies or dark circles common traits with RSS kids? > > > > I hope you do not mind my venting, but I am beginning to think that > > Jack's allergy doctor just goes through the motions and does not > have > > a clue in regards to other methods of treatment. My allergist, who > > unfortunately does not see children, has done wonders for me and > > helped minimize my fibromyalgia. When I mention some of the > methods > > my allergist uses, he dismisses them as not effective. > > > > I don't know, maybe I'm being too impatient. I just want instant > > results sometime, and I want Jack not to be plagued by any of > this. > > I wish I had a magic wand to get rid of even the allergies. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2001 Report Share Posted October 15, 2001 " Fred " - Don't forget that virtually all RSS children who are underweight have some type of darker circles under their eyes. This has to do with the low body fat and lack of muscle (you can also often see the veins in their faces and foreheads as well). The allergy idea might sound good except that it you look at these same kids once they have put on weight, the dark circles disappear. But myself, who has grass allergies, despite extra weight, my allergy shiners do not disappear. Therefore, I would also recommend that if your child has no other symptom other than just circles under the eye (and the thinness of RSS), that if skin tests or blood tests don't show an allergy, and there are no other symptoms such as diarrhea, or blood in the stool, or runny nose, or post-nasal drip, or other allergy symptoms, then why put the child through even more tests? Granted, there are RSS children with severe and moderate allergies (just like the normal population). But most have symptoms of some type besides the dark circles under their eyes. I personally would not put my child through more stuff just based on circles under the eyes and no other indication. I would also remind everyone to always check with your doctor, your pharmacist and/or your homeopathic person before using remedies designed for an adult on a child. > > Hello Everyone, > > > > My son Jack has several known food allergies, but we are still > trying > > to identify others since he continues to show dark circles under > the > > eyes. Are allergies or dark circles common traits with RSS kids? > > > > I hope you do not mind my venting, but I am beginning to think that > > Jack's allergy doctor just goes through the motions and does not > have > > a clue in regards to other methods of treatment. My allergist, who > > unfortunately does not see children, has done wonders for me and > > helped minimize my fibromyalgia. When I mention some of the > methods > > my allergist uses, he dismisses them as not effective. > > > > I don't know, maybe I'm being too impatient. I just want instant > > results sometime, and I want Jack not to be plagued by any of > this. > > I wish I had a magic wand to get rid of even the allergies. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2001 Report Share Posted October 15, 2001 " " - I think it is important to point out that all the testing that my doctors perform are substantially less invasive and considered safer than conventional medical practices. Generally, tests that might be involved include an analysis of urine or stool or a sensor lightly touching various acupuncture points. Conventional skin tests and blood tests are fine for identifying the IgE immediate type of allergic response, but typically conventional allergists do not check IgA, IgM, IgD, and IgG, and more importantly the IgG subclasses (IgG1, IgG2, IgG3, IgG4). The other symptoms you mention such as diarrhea, blood in stool, runny nose, etc., certainly can be indicators of allergies. I would like to mention that there are many signs of allergies that are obvious, but there are also many signs that are not as obvious. I believe that our RSS kids should get an accurate assessment of possible allergies to help minimize the additional stressors or load, on the immune system. After all RSS is a syndrome comprised of many different traits and problems. In addition, there is no singular approach to achieve a maintainable semblance of health. Therefore, undertaking a different spectrum allergy testing is worth looking into because it could potentially reduce some of the symptoms of RSS. I know that reducing allergins has worked well with my daughter. Fred > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > My son Jack has several known food allergies, but we are still > > trying > > > to identify others since he continues to show dark circles under > > the > > > eyes. Are allergies or dark circles common traits with RSS kids? > > > > > > I hope you do not mind my venting, but I am beginning to think > that > > > Jack's allergy doctor just goes through the motions and does not > > have > > > a clue in regards to other methods of treatment. My allergist, > who > > > unfortunately does not see children, has done wonders for me and > > > helped minimize my fibromyalgia. When I mention some of the > > methods > > > my allergist uses, he dismisses them as not effective. > > > > > > I don't know, maybe I'm being too impatient. I just want instant > > > results sometime, and I want Jack not to be plagued by any of > > this. > > > I wish I had a magic wand to get rid of even the allergies. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2001 Report Share Posted October 15, 2001 " " - I think it is important to point out that all the testing that my doctors perform are substantially less invasive and considered safer than conventional medical practices. Generally, tests that might be involved include an analysis of urine or stool or a sensor lightly touching various acupuncture points. Conventional skin tests and blood tests are fine for identifying the IgE immediate type of allergic response, but typically conventional allergists do not check IgA, IgM, IgD, and IgG, and more importantly the IgG subclasses (IgG1, IgG2, IgG3, IgG4). The other symptoms you mention such as diarrhea, blood in stool, runny nose, etc., certainly can be indicators of allergies. I would like to mention that there are many signs of allergies that are obvious, but there are also many signs that are not as obvious. I believe that our RSS kids should get an accurate assessment of possible allergies to help minimize the additional stressors or load, on the immune system. After all RSS is a syndrome comprised of many different traits and problems. In addition, there is no singular approach to achieve a maintainable semblance of health. Therefore, undertaking a different spectrum allergy testing is worth looking into because it could potentially reduce some of the symptoms of RSS. I know that reducing allergins has worked well with my daughter. Fred > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > My son Jack has several known food allergies, but we are still > > trying > > > to identify others since he continues to show dark circles under > > the > > > eyes. Are allergies or dark circles common traits with RSS kids? > > > > > > I hope you do not mind my venting, but I am beginning to think > that > > > Jack's allergy doctor just goes through the motions and does not > > have > > > a clue in regards to other methods of treatment. My allergist, > who > > > unfortunately does not see children, has done wonders for me and > > > helped minimize my fibromyalgia. When I mention some of the > > methods > > > my allergist uses, he dismisses them as not effective. > > > > > > I don't know, maybe I'm being too impatient. I just want instant > > > results sometime, and I want Jack not to be plagued by any of > > this. > > > I wish I had a magic wand to get rid of even the allergies. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2001 Report Share Posted October 15, 2001 I definitely agree, Fred. I just want to make sure that everyone understands that if the only allergy symptom is dark circles under the eyes, that not every RSS parent runs out and starts running the gamut of allergy testing on their child. There is a definite reason that RSS children in general have darker circles under their eyes than the general population. That being said, there are RSS children who suffer from major and minor allergies, which will make their dark circles worse, as well as provoke a variety of other symptoms. I think we are in agreement. I just was worried about the parents who might look at their otherwise healthy child who has circles under their eyes and go running paniced to their nearby allergist. > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > > > My son Jack has several known food allergies, but we are still > > > trying > > > > to identify others since he continues to show dark circles > under > > > the > > > > eyes. Are allergies or dark circles common traits with RSS > kids? > > > > > > > > I hope you do not mind my venting, but I am beginning to think > > that > > > > Jack's allergy doctor just goes through the motions and does > not > > > have > > > > a clue in regards to other methods of treatment. My allergist, > > who > > > > unfortunately does not see children, has done wonders for me > and > > > > helped minimize my fibromyalgia. When I mention some of the > > > methods > > > > my allergist uses, he dismisses them as not effective. > > > > > > > > I don't know, maybe I'm being too impatient. I just want > instant > > > > results sometime, and I want Jack not to be plagued by any of > > > this. > > > > I wish I had a magic wand to get rid of even the allergies. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2001 Report Share Posted October 15, 2001 I definitely agree, Fred. I just want to make sure that everyone understands that if the only allergy symptom is dark circles under the eyes, that not every RSS parent runs out and starts running the gamut of allergy testing on their child. There is a definite reason that RSS children in general have darker circles under their eyes than the general population. That being said, there are RSS children who suffer from major and minor allergies, which will make their dark circles worse, as well as provoke a variety of other symptoms. I think we are in agreement. I just was worried about the parents who might look at their otherwise healthy child who has circles under their eyes and go running paniced to their nearby allergist. > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > > > My son Jack has several known food allergies, but we are still > > > trying > > > > to identify others since he continues to show dark circles > under > > > the > > > > eyes. Are allergies or dark circles common traits with RSS > kids? > > > > > > > > I hope you do not mind my venting, but I am beginning to think > > that > > > > Jack's allergy doctor just goes through the motions and does > not > > > have > > > > a clue in regards to other methods of treatment. My allergist, > > who > > > > unfortunately does not see children, has done wonders for me > and > > > > helped minimize my fibromyalgia. When I mention some of the > > > methods > > > > my allergist uses, he dismisses them as not effective. > > > > > > > > I don't know, maybe I'm being too impatient. I just want > instant > > > > results sometime, and I want Jack not to be plagued by any of > > > this. > > > > I wish I had a magic wand to get rid of even the allergies. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2001 Report Share Posted October 17, 2001 I knew I forgot to mention one other item regarding to your statement about IgG and any relationship to allergies. A delayed on-set reaction to cow's milk is common, with symptoms that can include asthma and eczema occurring hours to days after ingestion. This type of sensitivity to milk is not IgE-mediated, but can be diagnosed by detecting raised serum levels of IgG antibodies to milk protein. If you wish to review this in detail please go to the following citation: F. Shakib et al., " Study of IgG Sub-class Antibodies in Patients with Milk Intolerance, " Clinical Allergy, Vol 16 (1986): pp. 451-458. Fred > > > > " Fred " - Don't forget that virtually all RSS children who are=20 > > > > underweight have some type of darker circles under their eyes. > This=20 > > > > has to do with the low body fat and lack of muscle (you can > also=20 > > > > often see the veins in their faces and foreheads as well). > The=20 > > > > allergy idea might sound good except that it you look at these > same=20 > > > > kids once they have put on weight, the dark circles disappear. > > > >=20 > > > > But myself, who has grass allergies, despite extra weight, my=20 > > > allergy=20 > > > > shiners do not disappear. > > > >=20 > > > > Therefore, I would also recommend that if your child has no > other=20 > > > > symptom other than just circles under the eye (and the thinness > of=20 > > > > RSS), that if skin tests or blood tests don't show an allergy, > and=20 > > > > there are no other symptoms such as diarrhea, or blood in the=20 > > > stool,=20 > > > > or runny nose, or post-nasal drip, or other allergy symptoms, > then=20 > > > > why put the child through even more tests? > > > >=20 > > > > Granted, there are RSS children with severe and moderate > allergies=20 > > > > (just like the normal population). But most have symptoms of > some=20 > > > > type besides the dark circles under their eyes. > > > >=20 > > > > I personally would not put my child through more stuff just > based=20 > > > on=20 > > > > circles under the eyes and no other indication.=20=20 > > > >=20 > > > > I would also remind everyone to always check with your doctor, > your=20 > > > > pharmacist and/or your homeopathic person before using > remedies=20 > > > > designed for an adult on a child. > > > >=20 > > > > =20 > > > > > > .................................... > > To get your own free faithmail account, click here to join: > > http://www.womenoffaith.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 For the record, Chandler, I was not the one who addressed issues about the MAGIC Convention. Salem is the one. She is the RSS Division Consultant. I only answer emails and work behind the scenes. Jodi >From: RSSquest001@... >Reply-To: RSS-Support >To: RSS-Support >Subject: Allergies >Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 19:46:25 -0000 > >Hi , > >It looks like Jodi handled your question about the Magic Convention. > >I think that you will enjoy reading the " Road to Immunity " by >Bock and gain a broader perspective on medicine. > >Regarding your question: ><<<I am curious about your allergist's approach. You mentioned the >use of acupuncture points in testing. For myself I have turned to >holistic medicine to help treat my allergies with excellent results. >My doctor uses something called Muscle Resistance Testing (MRT) which >evaluates the level of muscles weakening when exposed to various >allergens. I believe this also has something to do with >acupuncture. Is this related to what your doctor uses? >>> > >I have some knowledge about MRT and perhaps there is some crossover >relationship with my allergist's testing approach. Acupuncture >points do seem to be a common element. I will try to explain, as >best I can, one of the tests my allergist conducts. As mentioned >before, it is an extremely non-invasive test and can be easily >conducted on infants. > >The test is called Electrodermal Screening (EDS). First here is some >background information. According to Chinese medicine, the >acupuncture meridian system is a network of energetic " pathways " that >run throughout the body, carrying an energy known as " chi " , which >nourishes and vitalizes the organs and tissues of the body (the >concept of pathways came from Chinese investigation of magnetism). >Although there have been many scientific studies documenting the >existence of these pathways and the impact of the flow of " chi " >energy in the treatment of disease, many conventional physicians >dismiss the idea. Based on something Chinese acupuncture had known >for centuries, Dr. Reinhold Voll, MD, anatomy professor, and >acupuncturist, was able to scientifically document this. > >According to Dr. Voll, in the human body, there are higher levels of >electrical conduction - or in other words, areas of less resistance - >at certain points on the skin, many of which correspond to >traditional acupuncture points. He built a device that introduced a >minute amount (when I say minute, I mean really, really small -- >don't worried you will not be shocked) of electrical current, which >would travel through the body to various acupuncture points, thus >forming a complete electrical circuit that he could measure. > >The body operates largely by a series of electric impulses which have >been shown to follow the Chinese meridians. Dr. Voll accessed these >pathways via acupuncture points on the skin where there are changes >in electrical resistance. A healthy pathway will be able to sustain >a certain level of electron flow. Conversely, inflammation tends to >foster increased activity in the cells, with all sorts of chemical >reactions going on, creating a more active environment through which >electrons flow at a greater rate. In degenerative states, cellular >activity slows and stagnates, making it more difficult for electrons >to flow through the circuit. Today, the process that Dr. Voll >started back in the 1950's in conducted and measured by computer. > >At first you may be very skeptical of this testing. I certainly was, >but a number of things convinced me otherwise. First, at my initial >visit with my doctor, he had no prior knowledge who I was or anything >about my medical history; in fact, I live three hours away from his >office. Before any physical exam and while fully clothed he >administered the EDS tests and within a few minutes told me I had a >scare on my right ankle (incidentally, I was wearing socks). >Needless to say; two years prior, I had a bone chip surgically >removed from the same ankle. There were many other correct >observations he made, and this was done without jumping around making >a number of guesses that he then could focus on. > >Next, the doctor performed tests for possible food allergies and >toxins. I purposely omitted telling of the two foods that I >definitely knew I was allergic/sensitive too. Low and behold, he >successfully identified them and informed me of an additional 17+ >food to avoid for three months. During this three months, I took >sublingual allergy drops that build up my immunity to these foods, I >was able to reintroduce these foods in moderation. Through the three >months, the EDS testing was used to determine initial dosage for the >drops and subsequent adjustments. > >My doctor also ordered urine and stool analyses as a cross-reference >to serve as confirmation of EDS results. EDS is an investigational >tool that still requires that the doctor's knowledge of acupuncture, >physiology, and therapeutic substances to interpret the energy >imbalances and select the most appropriate therapeutic response. >There are approximately 2,000 EDS devices in use in the US, but >according to my doctor, he feels only 25 of these practitioners in >the country that are truly proficient. > >I know I have been long winded but I tried to simplify this as much >as possible and still convey the gist of the process. > >Fred > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 For the record, Chandler, I was not the one who addressed issues about the MAGIC Convention. Salem is the one. She is the RSS Division Consultant. I only answer emails and work behind the scenes. Jodi >From: RSSquest001@... >Reply-To: RSS-Support >To: RSS-Support >Subject: Allergies >Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 19:46:25 -0000 > >Hi , > >It looks like Jodi handled your question about the Magic Convention. > >I think that you will enjoy reading the " Road to Immunity " by >Bock and gain a broader perspective on medicine. > >Regarding your question: ><<<I am curious about your allergist's approach. You mentioned the >use of acupuncture points in testing. For myself I have turned to >holistic medicine to help treat my allergies with excellent results. >My doctor uses something called Muscle Resistance Testing (MRT) which >evaluates the level of muscles weakening when exposed to various >allergens. I believe this also has something to do with >acupuncture. Is this related to what your doctor uses? >>> > >I have some knowledge about MRT and perhaps there is some crossover >relationship with my allergist's testing approach. Acupuncture >points do seem to be a common element. I will try to explain, as >best I can, one of the tests my allergist conducts. As mentioned >before, it is an extremely non-invasive test and can be easily >conducted on infants. > >The test is called Electrodermal Screening (EDS). First here is some >background information. According to Chinese medicine, the >acupuncture meridian system is a network of energetic " pathways " that >run throughout the body, carrying an energy known as " chi " , which >nourishes and vitalizes the organs and tissues of the body (the >concept of pathways came from Chinese investigation of magnetism). >Although there have been many scientific studies documenting the >existence of these pathways and the impact of the flow of " chi " >energy in the treatment of disease, many conventional physicians >dismiss the idea. Based on something Chinese acupuncture had known >for centuries, Dr. Reinhold Voll, MD, anatomy professor, and >acupuncturist, was able to scientifically document this. > >According to Dr. Voll, in the human body, there are higher levels of >electrical conduction - or in other words, areas of less resistance - >at certain points on the skin, many of which correspond to >traditional acupuncture points. He built a device that introduced a >minute amount (when I say minute, I mean really, really small -- >don't worried you will not be shocked) of electrical current, which >would travel through the body to various acupuncture points, thus >forming a complete electrical circuit that he could measure. > >The body operates largely by a series of electric impulses which have >been shown to follow the Chinese meridians. Dr. Voll accessed these >pathways via acupuncture points on the skin where there are changes >in electrical resistance. A healthy pathway will be able to sustain >a certain level of electron flow. Conversely, inflammation tends to >foster increased activity in the cells, with all sorts of chemical >reactions going on, creating a more active environment through which >electrons flow at a greater rate. In degenerative states, cellular >activity slows and stagnates, making it more difficult for electrons >to flow through the circuit. Today, the process that Dr. Voll >started back in the 1950's in conducted and measured by computer. > >At first you may be very skeptical of this testing. I certainly was, >but a number of things convinced me otherwise. First, at my initial >visit with my doctor, he had no prior knowledge who I was or anything >about my medical history; in fact, I live three hours away from his >office. Before any physical exam and while fully clothed he >administered the EDS tests and within a few minutes told me I had a >scare on my right ankle (incidentally, I was wearing socks). >Needless to say; two years prior, I had a bone chip surgically >removed from the same ankle. There were many other correct >observations he made, and this was done without jumping around making >a number of guesses that he then could focus on. > >Next, the doctor performed tests for possible food allergies and >toxins. I purposely omitted telling of the two foods that I >definitely knew I was allergic/sensitive too. Low and behold, he >successfully identified them and informed me of an additional 17+ >food to avoid for three months. During this three months, I took >sublingual allergy drops that build up my immunity to these foods, I >was able to reintroduce these foods in moderation. Through the three >months, the EDS testing was used to determine initial dosage for the >drops and subsequent adjustments. > >My doctor also ordered urine and stool analyses as a cross-reference >to serve as confirmation of EDS results. EDS is an investigational >tool that still requires that the doctor's knowledge of acupuncture, >physiology, and therapeutic substances to interpret the energy >imbalances and select the most appropriate therapeutic response. >There are approximately 2,000 EDS devices in use in the US, but >according to my doctor, he feels only 25 of these practitioners in >the country that are truly proficient. > >I know I have been long winded but I tried to simplify this as much >as possible and still convey the gist of the process. > >Fred > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 For the record, Chandler, I was not the one who addressed issues about the MAGIC Convention. Salem is the one. She is the RSS Division Consultant. I only answer emails and work behind the scenes. Jodi >From: RSSquest001@... >Reply-To: RSS-Support >To: RSS-Support >Subject: Allergies >Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 19:46:25 -0000 > >Hi , > >It looks like Jodi handled your question about the Magic Convention. > >I think that you will enjoy reading the " Road to Immunity " by >Bock and gain a broader perspective on medicine. > >Regarding your question: ><<<I am curious about your allergist's approach. You mentioned the >use of acupuncture points in testing. For myself I have turned to >holistic medicine to help treat my allergies with excellent results. >My doctor uses something called Muscle Resistance Testing (MRT) which >evaluates the level of muscles weakening when exposed to various >allergens. I believe this also has something to do with >acupuncture. Is this related to what your doctor uses? >>> > >I have some knowledge about MRT and perhaps there is some crossover >relationship with my allergist's testing approach. Acupuncture >points do seem to be a common element. I will try to explain, as >best I can, one of the tests my allergist conducts. As mentioned >before, it is an extremely non-invasive test and can be easily >conducted on infants. > >The test is called Electrodermal Screening (EDS). First here is some >background information. According to Chinese medicine, the >acupuncture meridian system is a network of energetic " pathways " that >run throughout the body, carrying an energy known as " chi " , which >nourishes and vitalizes the organs and tissues of the body (the >concept of pathways came from Chinese investigation of magnetism). >Although there have been many scientific studies documenting the >existence of these pathways and the impact of the flow of " chi " >energy in the treatment of disease, many conventional physicians >dismiss the idea. Based on something Chinese acupuncture had known >for centuries, Dr. Reinhold Voll, MD, anatomy professor, and >acupuncturist, was able to scientifically document this. > >According to Dr. Voll, in the human body, there are higher levels of >electrical conduction - or in other words, areas of less resistance - >at certain points on the skin, many of which correspond to >traditional acupuncture points. He built a device that introduced a >minute amount (when I say minute, I mean really, really small -- >don't worried you will not be shocked) of electrical current, which >would travel through the body to various acupuncture points, thus >forming a complete electrical circuit that he could measure. > >The body operates largely by a series of electric impulses which have >been shown to follow the Chinese meridians. Dr. Voll accessed these >pathways via acupuncture points on the skin where there are changes >in electrical resistance. A healthy pathway will be able to sustain >a certain level of electron flow. Conversely, inflammation tends to >foster increased activity in the cells, with all sorts of chemical >reactions going on, creating a more active environment through which >electrons flow at a greater rate. In degenerative states, cellular >activity slows and stagnates, making it more difficult for electrons >to flow through the circuit. Today, the process that Dr. Voll >started back in the 1950's in conducted and measured by computer. > >At first you may be very skeptical of this testing. I certainly was, >but a number of things convinced me otherwise. First, at my initial >visit with my doctor, he had no prior knowledge who I was or anything >about my medical history; in fact, I live three hours away from his >office. Before any physical exam and while fully clothed he >administered the EDS tests and within a few minutes told me I had a >scare on my right ankle (incidentally, I was wearing socks). >Needless to say; two years prior, I had a bone chip surgically >removed from the same ankle. There were many other correct >observations he made, and this was done without jumping around making >a number of guesses that he then could focus on. > >Next, the doctor performed tests for possible food allergies and >toxins. I purposely omitted telling of the two foods that I >definitely knew I was allergic/sensitive too. Low and behold, he >successfully identified them and informed me of an additional 17+ >food to avoid for three months. During this three months, I took >sublingual allergy drops that build up my immunity to these foods, I >was able to reintroduce these foods in moderation. Through the three >months, the EDS testing was used to determine initial dosage for the >drops and subsequent adjustments. > >My doctor also ordered urine and stool analyses as a cross-reference >to serve as confirmation of EDS results. EDS is an investigational >tool that still requires that the doctor's knowledge of acupuncture, >physiology, and therapeutic substances to interpret the energy >imbalances and select the most appropriate therapeutic response. >There are approximately 2,000 EDS devices in use in the US, but >according to my doctor, he feels only 25 of these practitioners in >the country that are truly proficient. > >I know I have been long winded but I tried to simplify this as much >as possible and still convey the gist of the process. > >Fred > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 Fred, It seems to me that your doctor did indeed take a more responsible approach to this technique than the nutritionist whom I visited. She put my son on my lap and had me hold out my arm, seeing when my arm would go down, not using any actual electrical measurements. But the thing that really bothered me is that she predicted my son had diabetes, and then sort of retracted when I said I wanted my doctor to test it - and told me not to have it tested. She also told me not to read the labels on the supplements she was giving me. And on the more emotional note, one of the babies I was carrying died about the time I was taking her supplements... I've had bad experiences with traditional doctors, too. I guess this just teaches me not to make any particular type of doctor my idol! Inga At 07:46 PM 10/20/2001 +0000, you wrote: > > Hi , > > It looks like Jodi handled your question about the Magic Convention. > > I think that you will enjoy reading the " Road to Immunity " by > Bock and gain a broader perspective on medicine. > > Regarding your question: > <<<I am curious about your allergist's approach. You mentioned the > use of acupuncture points in testing. For myself I have turned to > holistic medicine to help treat my allergies with excellent results. > My doctor uses something called Muscle Resistance Testing (MRT) which > evaluates the level of muscles weakening when exposed to various > allergens. I believe this also has something to do with > acupuncture. Is this related to what your doctor uses? >>> > > I have some knowledge about MRT and perhaps there is some crossover > relationship with my allergist's testing approach. Acupuncture > points do seem to be a common element. I will try to explain, as > best I can, one of the tests my allergist conducts. As mentioned > before, it is an extremely non-invasive test and can be easily > conducted on infants. > > The test is called Electrodermal Screening (EDS). First here is some > background information. According to Chinese medicine, the > acupuncture meridian system is a network of energetic " pathways " that > run throughout the body, carrying an energy known as " chi " , which > nourishes and vitalizes the organs and tissues of the body (the > concept of pathways came from Chinese investigation of magnetism). > Although there have been many scientific studies documenting the > existence of these pathways and the impact of the flow of " chi " > energy in the treatment of disease, many conventional physicians > dismiss the idea. Based on something Chinese acupuncture had known > for centuries, Dr. Reinhold Voll, MD, anatomy professor, and > acupuncturist, was able to scientifically document this. > > According to Dr. Voll, in the human body, there are higher levels of > electrical conduction - or in other words, areas of less resistance - > at certain points on the skin, many of which correspond to > traditional acupuncture points. He built a device that introduced a > minute amount (when I say minute, I mean really, really small -- > don't worried you will not be shocked) of electrical current, which > would travel through the body to various acupuncture points, thus > forming a complete electrical circuit that he could measure. > > The body operates largely by a series of electric impulses which have > been shown to follow the Chinese meridians. Dr. Voll accessed these > pathways via acupuncture points on the skin where there are changes > in electrical resistance. A healthy pathway will be able to sustain > a certain level of electron flow. Conversely, inflammation tends to > foster increased activity in the cells, with all sorts of chemical > reactions going on, creating a more active environment through which > electrons flow at a greater rate. In degenerative states, cellular > activity slows and stagnates, making it more difficult for electrons > to flow through the circuit. Today, the process that Dr. Voll > started back in the 1950's in conducted and measured by computer. > > At first you may be very skeptical of this testing. I certainly was, > but a number of things convinced me otherwise. First, at my initial > visit with my doctor, he had no prior knowledge who I was or anything > about my medical history; in fact, I live three hours away from his > office. Before any physical exam and while fully clothed he > administered the EDS tests and within a few minutes told me I had a > scare on my right ankle (incidentally, I was wearing socks). > Needless to say; two years prior, I had a bone chip surgically > removed from the same ankle. There were many other correct > observations he made, and this was done without jumping around making > a number of guesses that he then could focus on. > > Next, the doctor performed tests for possible food allergies and > toxins. I purposely omitted telling of the two foods that I > definitely knew I was allergic/sensitive too. Low and behold, he > successfully identified them and informed me of an additional 17+ > food to avoid for three months. During this three months, I took > sublingual allergy drops that build up my immunity to these foods, I > was able to reintroduce these foods in moderation. Through the three > months, the EDS testing was used to determine initial dosage for the > drops and subsequent adjustments. > > My doctor also ordered urine and stool analyses as a cross-reference > to serve as confirmation of EDS results. EDS is an investigational > tool that still requires that the doctor's knowledge of acupuncture, > physiology, and therapeutic substances to interpret the energy > imbalances and select the most appropriate therapeutic response. > There are approximately 2,000 EDS devices in use in the US, but > according to my doctor, he feels only 25 of these practitioners in > the country that are truly proficient. > > I know I have been long winded but I tried to simplify this as much > as possible and still convey the gist of the process. > > Fred > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 Fred, It seems to me that your doctor did indeed take a more responsible approach to this technique than the nutritionist whom I visited. She put my son on my lap and had me hold out my arm, seeing when my arm would go down, not using any actual electrical measurements. But the thing that really bothered me is that she predicted my son had diabetes, and then sort of retracted when I said I wanted my doctor to test it - and told me not to have it tested. She also told me not to read the labels on the supplements she was giving me. And on the more emotional note, one of the babies I was carrying died about the time I was taking her supplements... I've had bad experiences with traditional doctors, too. I guess this just teaches me not to make any particular type of doctor my idol! Inga At 07:46 PM 10/20/2001 +0000, you wrote: > > Hi , > > It looks like Jodi handled your question about the Magic Convention. > > I think that you will enjoy reading the " Road to Immunity " by > Bock and gain a broader perspective on medicine. > > Regarding your question: > <<<I am curious about your allergist's approach. You mentioned the > use of acupuncture points in testing. For myself I have turned to > holistic medicine to help treat my allergies with excellent results. > My doctor uses something called Muscle Resistance Testing (MRT) which > evaluates the level of muscles weakening when exposed to various > allergens. I believe this also has something to do with > acupuncture. Is this related to what your doctor uses? >>> > > I have some knowledge about MRT and perhaps there is some crossover > relationship with my allergist's testing approach. Acupuncture > points do seem to be a common element. I will try to explain, as > best I can, one of the tests my allergist conducts. As mentioned > before, it is an extremely non-invasive test and can be easily > conducted on infants. > > The test is called Electrodermal Screening (EDS). First here is some > background information. According to Chinese medicine, the > acupuncture meridian system is a network of energetic " pathways " that > run throughout the body, carrying an energy known as " chi " , which > nourishes and vitalizes the organs and tissues of the body (the > concept of pathways came from Chinese investigation of magnetism). > Although there have been many scientific studies documenting the > existence of these pathways and the impact of the flow of " chi " > energy in the treatment of disease, many conventional physicians > dismiss the idea. Based on something Chinese acupuncture had known > for centuries, Dr. Reinhold Voll, MD, anatomy professor, and > acupuncturist, was able to scientifically document this. > > According to Dr. Voll, in the human body, there are higher levels of > electrical conduction - or in other words, areas of less resistance - > at certain points on the skin, many of which correspond to > traditional acupuncture points. He built a device that introduced a > minute amount (when I say minute, I mean really, really small -- > don't worried you will not be shocked) of electrical current, which > would travel through the body to various acupuncture points, thus > forming a complete electrical circuit that he could measure. > > The body operates largely by a series of electric impulses which have > been shown to follow the Chinese meridians. Dr. Voll accessed these > pathways via acupuncture points on the skin where there are changes > in electrical resistance. A healthy pathway will be able to sustain > a certain level of electron flow. Conversely, inflammation tends to > foster increased activity in the cells, with all sorts of chemical > reactions going on, creating a more active environment through which > electrons flow at a greater rate. In degenerative states, cellular > activity slows and stagnates, making it more difficult for electrons > to flow through the circuit. Today, the process that Dr. Voll > started back in the 1950's in conducted and measured by computer. > > At first you may be very skeptical of this testing. I certainly was, > but a number of things convinced me otherwise. First, at my initial > visit with my doctor, he had no prior knowledge who I was or anything > about my medical history; in fact, I live three hours away from his > office. Before any physical exam and while fully clothed he > administered the EDS tests and within a few minutes told me I had a > scare on my right ankle (incidentally, I was wearing socks). > Needless to say; two years prior, I had a bone chip surgically > removed from the same ankle. There were many other correct > observations he made, and this was done without jumping around making > a number of guesses that he then could focus on. > > Next, the doctor performed tests for possible food allergies and > toxins. I purposely omitted telling of the two foods that I > definitely knew I was allergic/sensitive too. Low and behold, he > successfully identified them and informed me of an additional 17+ > food to avoid for three months. During this three months, I took > sublingual allergy drops that build up my immunity to these foods, I > was able to reintroduce these foods in moderation. Through the three > months, the EDS testing was used to determine initial dosage for the > drops and subsequent adjustments. > > My doctor also ordered urine and stool analyses as a cross-reference > to serve as confirmation of EDS results. EDS is an investigational > tool that still requires that the doctor's knowledge of acupuncture, > physiology, and therapeutic substances to interpret the energy > imbalances and select the most appropriate therapeutic response. > There are approximately 2,000 EDS devices in use in the US, but > according to my doctor, he feels only 25 of these practitioners in > the country that are truly proficient. > > I know I have been long winded but I tried to simplify this as much > as possible and still convey the gist of the process. > > Fred > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2001 Report Share Posted October 21, 2001 Hi Inga, I am very sorry to hear about your heartbreaking story. It must have caused you indescribable pain. I understand your statement that any particular type of doctor should not be idolized. I too have encountered many bad experiences with both conventional and alternative doctors, but from those exposures, I gained a better understanding of various medical protocols. With many alternative approaches there can be a lot of hocus pocus, which unfortunately, negatively colors the doctors who are truly cutting edge. I feel very confident that the doctors I am currently involved with are very knowledgeable and ethical and considered to be 20-30 years ahead of most conventional medicine. For lack of a better analogy, conventional medicine is like a bank; very solid, steady, many rules, regulations and paperwork, but generally not known for rapid advancement and true innovations. Once analyzed to the point of exhaustion, then something is accepted, only to become soon outdated. I think that mentioning a short story about one of my doctors may be helpful. During many of my visits to the doctor's office, I noticed that his waiting room was frequently populated with Hasidic Jews. Being rather inquisitive, I asked my doctor how he came to treat a large number of Jews. He related the story how his practice first started 20+ years ago in NYC catering to the Hasidic Jewish community. People of Jewish heritage have a high incidence of ileitis colitis and Crohn's disease compared to other ethnic groups and he established a reputation for curing or significantly reducing this intestinal disease. Most of his treatment for these two diseases principally involves identifying allergies/sensitivities and implementing a desensitization program along with a proper diet. He established such an excellent reputation that the chief doctor of one of NYC largest conventional colitis practices, who happened to be also inflicted with colitis, decided after many failed attempts to cure himself, became a patient. Understandably, the chief doctor could not openly advertise this, but with a certain portion of his patients, he would refer them on to my doctor. I relay these stories to your attention because they deal with the intestinal system, which is also a common problem with RSS children. Not that I am saying our children have colitis, maybe some do, but I want to illustrate the wide impact that allergies/sensitivities have on the gut along with the resulting impact on the body and mind. When the immune system becomes overwhelmed by various stressors (viruses, bacteria, allergies, environmental toxins, emotional stress, etc.), genetic predisposition that was once kept in check, raises their ugly heads. Fortunately for me, my doctor now practices medicine in Westport, Connecticut and that makes my three-hour trip easier, but I have found it well worth my time. As I mentioned to other list members I highly recommend reading, the " Road to Immunity " , by Bock, MD to gain a better understanding of the basics of cutting edge alternative medicine. Fred > > > > Hi , > > > > It looks like Jodi handled your question about the Magic Convention. > > > > I think that you will enjoy reading the " Road to Immunity " by > > Bock and gain a broader perspective on medicine. > > > > Regarding your question: > > <<<I am curious about your allergist's approach. You mentioned the > > use of acupuncture points in testing. For myself I have turned to > > holistic medicine to help treat my allergies with excellent results. > > My doctor uses something called Muscle Resistance Testing (MRT) which > > evaluates the level of muscles weakening when exposed to various > > allergens. I believe this also has something to do with > > acupuncture. Is this related to what your doctor uses? >>> > > > > I have some knowledge about MRT and perhaps there is some crossover > > relationship with my allergist's testing approach. Acupuncture > > points do seem to be a common element. I will try to explain, as > > best I can, one of the tests my allergist conducts. As mentioned > > before, it is an extremely non-invasive test and can be easily > > conducted on infants. > > > > The test is called Electrodermal Screening (EDS). First here is some > > background information. According to Chinese medicine, the > > acupuncture meridian system is a network of energetic " pathways " that > > run throughout the body, carrying an energy known as " chi " , which > > nourishes and vitalizes the organs and tissues of the body (the > > concept of pathways came from Chinese investigation of magnetism). > > Although there have been many scientific studies documenting the > > existence of these pathways and the impact of the flow of " chi " > > energy in the treatment of disease, many conventional physicians > > dismiss the idea. Based on something Chinese acupuncture had known > > for centuries, Dr. Reinhold Voll, MD, anatomy professor, and > > acupuncturist, was able to scientifically document this. > > > > According to Dr. Voll, in the human body, there are higher levels of > > electrical conduction - or in other words, areas of less resistance - > > at certain points on the skin, many of which correspond to > > traditional acupuncture points. He built a device that introduced a > > minute amount (when I say minute, I mean really, really small -- > > don't worried you will not be shocked) of electrical current, which > > would travel through the body to various acupuncture points, thus > > forming a complete electrical circuit that he could measure. > > > > The body operates largely by a series of electric impulses which have > > been shown to follow the Chinese meridians. Dr. Voll accessed these > > pathways via acupuncture points on the skin where there are changes > > in electrical resistance. A healthy pathway will be able to sustain > > a certain level of electron flow. Conversely, inflammation tends to > > foster increased activity in the cells, with all sorts of chemical > > reactions going on, creating a more active environment through which > > electrons flow at a greater rate. In degenerative states, cellular > > activity slows and stagnates, making it more difficult for electrons > > to flow through the circuit. Today, the process that Dr. Voll > > started back in the 1950's in conducted and measured by computer. > > > > At first you may be very skeptical of this testing. I certainly was, > > but a number of things convinced me otherwise. First, at my initial > > visit with my doctor, he had no prior knowledge who I was or anything > > about my medical history; in fact, I live three hours away from his > > office. Before any physical exam and while fully clothed he > > administered the EDS tests and within a few minutes told me I had a > > scare on my right ankle (incidentally, I was wearing socks). > > Needless to say; two years prior, I had a bone chip surgically > > removed from the same ankle. There were many other correct > > observations he made, and this was done without jumping around making > > a number of guesses that he then could focus on. > > > > Next, the doctor performed tests for possible food allergies and > > toxins. I purposely omitted telling of the two foods that I > > definitely knew I was allergic/sensitive too. Low and behold, he > > successfully identified them and informed me of an additional 17+ > > food to avoid for three months. During this three months, I took > > sublingual allergy drops that build up my immunity to these foods, I > > was able to reintroduce these foods in moderation. Through the three > > months, the EDS testing was used to determine initial dosage for the > > drops and subsequent adjustments. > > > > My doctor also ordered urine and stool analyses as a cross- reference > > to serve as confirmation of EDS results. EDS is an investigational > > tool that still requires that the doctor's knowledge of acupuncture, > > physiology, and therapeutic substances to interpret the energy > > imbalances and select the most appropriate therapeutic response. > > There are approximately 2,000 EDS devices in use in the US, but > > according to my doctor, he feels only 25 of these practitioners in > > the country that are truly proficient. > > > > I know I have been long winded but I tried to simplify this as much > > as possible and still convey the gist of the process. > > > > Fred > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 We are deep into pollen season and my dd is suffering terribly from allergies. I have her using a sinus rinse and showering when she comes home. What else can I do to alleviate her symptoms? Any meds legal? She is coming up to the two year mark onSCD and is, thank G-d, doing great. Would an antihistamine be possible? Anyone find anything that helps and is SCD legal? Thanks! Peggie, mom of Keli CD 2 1/2 yrs SCD 2 yrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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