Re: The drugs don't work for me

[Guest guest]

I get my UL from the local pharmacy, 3 vials per fill. They never have

three; they always have one. In a couple of days, I get my other two.

This may be their way to assure up to date stock.

Helen

[Guest guest]

--- whimsy2 wrote:

> Are you only taking Humalog? Because that's really

> just for meal bolus.

> UL is used, like Lantus, for " background " for the

> times you're not

> eating, to keep your BGs level between meals.. And

> if you're only

> taking Humalog, it's no wonder you're having

> problems.

The ONLY time that someone uses Humalog/Novolog ONLY

is if they are a pumper...then we do use just that one

insulin. Liz

=====

Type II, dx'ed Dec 1998, insulin since 6/02(my choice), pumping since

8/03. On glucophage, and other meds. Have neuropathy, PCOS, RLS, ET,

Fibro, and asthma.

[Guest guest]

--- whimsy2 wrote:

> Are you only taking Humalog? Because that's really

> just for meal bolus.

> UL is used, like Lantus, for " background " for the

> times you're not

> eating, to keep your BGs level between meals.. And

> if you're only

> taking Humalog, it's no wonder you're having

> problems.

The ONLY time that someone uses Humalog/Novolog ONLY

is if they are a pumper...then we do use just that one

insulin. Liz

=====

Type II, dx'ed Dec 1998, insulin since 6/02(my choice), pumping since

8/03. On glucophage, and other meds. Have neuropathy, PCOS, RLS, ET,

Fibro, and asthma.

[Guest guest]

--- whimsy2 wrote:

> Are you only taking Humalog? Because that's really

> just for meal bolus.

> UL is used, like Lantus, for " background " for the

> times you're not

> eating, to keep your BGs level between meals.. And

> if you're only

> taking Humalog, it's no wonder you're having

> problems.

The ONLY time that someone uses Humalog/Novolog ONLY

is if they are a pumper...then we do use just that one

insulin. Liz

=====

Type II, dx'ed Dec 1998, insulin since 6/02(my choice), pumping since

8/03. On glucophage, and other meds. Have neuropathy, PCOS, RLS, ET,

Fibro, and asthma.

[Guest guest]

Uh, maybe not Liz. It sure sounded like Lynda lcblack@... was

just using Humalog and on a one shot basis. While pumpers usually use

only bolus insulin I have heard of type IIs who ONLY use a bolus insulin.

Must be another YMMV thing

On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 04:55:30 -0800 (PST) Ramsey

writes:

>

> --- whimsy2 wrote:

> > Are you only taking Humalog? Because that's really

> > just for meal bolus.

> > UL is used, like Lantus, for " background " for the

> > times you're not

> > eating, to keep your BGs level between meals.. And

> > if you're only

> > taking Humalog, it's no wonder you're having

> > problems.

>

> The ONLY time that someone uses Humalog/Novolog ONLY

> is if they are a pumper...then we do use just that one

> insulin. Liz

>

> =====

> Type II, dx'ed Dec 1998, insulin since 6/02(my choice), pumping

> since

> 8/03. On glucophage, and other meds. Have neuropathy, PCOS, RLS, ET,

>

> Fibro, and asthma.

>

[Guest guest]

I dont understand this statment

I tool UL last nite 35U

again this morn 45U

but when I eat will take my Humalog on a sliding scale

RIGHT ??????

>

>

> The ONLY time that someone uses Humalog/Novolog ONLY

> is if they are a pumper...then we do use just that one

> insulin. Liz

>

--

I'm not yet where I need to be, but praise God, I'm not where I used to be!!

Lynda

[Guest guest]

I dont understand this statment

I tool UL last nite 35U

again this morn 45U

but when I eat will take my Humalog on a sliding scale

RIGHT ??????

>

>

> The ONLY time that someone uses Humalog/Novolog ONLY

> is if they are a pumper...then we do use just that one

> insulin. Liz

>

--

I'm not yet where I need to be, but praise God, I'm not where I used to be!!

Lynda

[Guest guest]

No, I use the BD super fine needles and they work fine. I've never had

granules clog the tip. Just be sure to shake the bottle 20 times before

loading the syringe.

Vicki

Re: The drugs don't work for me

>

> -Well tomorrow I will get UL and will start testing testing testing

> because the humalog is not getting me where I need to be.

> If it has granules in it do I have to get bigger needles will it not

> clog up ? I will be asking for help Im sure,lol

> whimsy2 wrote:

>

>> Are you only taking Humalog? Because that's really just for meal

>> bolus.

>> UL is used, like Lantus, for " background " for the times you're not

>> eating, to keep your BGs level between meals.. And if you're only

>> taking Humalog, it's no wonder you're having problems.

>>

>

> --

> I'm not yet where I need to be, but praise God, I'm not where I used

> to be!!

> Lynda

>

[Guest guest]

No, I use the BD super fine needles and they work fine. I've never had

granules clog the tip. Just be sure to shake the bottle 20 times before

loading the syringe.

Vicki

Re: The drugs don't work for me

>

> -Well tomorrow I will get UL and will start testing testing testing

> because the humalog is not getting me where I need to be.

> If it has granules in it do I have to get bigger needles will it not

> clog up ? I will be asking for help Im sure,lol

> whimsy2 wrote:

>

>> Are you only taking Humalog? Because that's really just for meal

>> bolus.

>> UL is used, like Lantus, for " background " for the times you're not

>> eating, to keep your BGs level between meals.. And if you're only

>> taking Humalog, it's no wonder you're having problems.

>>

>

> --

> I'm not yet where I need to be, but praise God, I'm not where I used

> to be!!

> Lynda

>

[Guest guest]

No, I use the BD super fine needles and they work fine. I've never had

granules clog the tip. Just be sure to shake the bottle 20 times before

loading the syringe.

Vicki

Re: The drugs don't work for me

>

> -Well tomorrow I will get UL and will start testing testing testing

> because the humalog is not getting me where I need to be.

> If it has granules in it do I have to get bigger needles will it not

> clog up ? I will be asking for help Im sure,lol

> whimsy2 wrote:

>

>> Are you only taking Humalog? Because that's really just for meal

>> bolus.

>> UL is used, like Lantus, for " background " for the times you're not

>> eating, to keep your BGs level between meals.. And if you're only

>> taking Humalog, it's no wonder you're having problems.

>>

>

> --

> I'm not yet where I need to be, but praise God, I'm not where I used

> to be!!

> Lynda

>

[Guest guest]

Something that works better for Humalog dosing is base your Humalog on

the amount of carbs eaten instead of taking a " standard " dose. This

means you'll have to do some testing to learn what your insulin to carb

ratio is, but a good place to start for type 2s, if I remember

correctly, is about 1 unit of Humalog for each 15 carbs.

You don't eat the same amount of carbs at each meal so it's no wonder

you're getting poor control with the standard dose of 35 units.

Vicki

Re: The drugs don't work for me

>

> my # are always around 200 or more I take 35 u of humalog befor my

> meal

>

> Helen Mueller wrote:

>

>> Lynda, UL is taken in addition to humalog as your background insulin.

>> This is the insulin that keeps your numbers even when not eating.

>> The

>> humalog is to handle the additional glucose produced by food.

>>

>> Glucophage is taken to quiet your liver down so it does not put

>> glucose

>> into your system when it is not needed. It also somewhat enhances

>> insulin sensitivity.

>>

>> Tell us about your numbers and your humalog usage.

>>

>> Helen

>>

>

> --

> I'm not yet where I need to be, but praise God, I'm not where I used

> to be!!

> Lynda

[Guest guest]

Below is the web page that describes Eli Lilly's family of insulin

products. If you want to find a description of NPH you have to do a

special search - they don't even include it on their products page

anymore. Humalog is also handled on a separate page, I think.

UL is also known as Ultralente, or under the LIlly brand as Humulin U.

It is a long acting insulin, usually taken every 12 hours. It has a

much longer and smoother action curve than NPH but it is not as flat an

action curve as Lantus. I don't remember the name of the company that

produces Lantus and Novolog, but maybe someone else will post that

website addy.

CarolR

http://www.lillydiabetes.com/product/humulin_family.jsp?reqNavId=5.3

wrote:

>

> Carol,

> What is UL, Is it a different brand name of Insulin?

> I use Humolog during the daytime & NPH at night.

[Guest guest]

Below is the web page that describes Eli Lilly's family of insulin

products. If you want to find a description of NPH you have to do a

special search - they don't even include it on their products page

anymore. Humalog is also handled on a separate page, I think.

UL is also known as Ultralente, or under the LIlly brand as Humulin U.

It is a long acting insulin, usually taken every 12 hours. It has a

much longer and smoother action curve than NPH but it is not as flat an

action curve as Lantus. I don't remember the name of the company that

produces Lantus and Novolog, but maybe someone else will post that

website addy.

CarolR

http://www.lillydiabetes.com/product/humulin_family.jsp?reqNavId=5.3

wrote:

>

> Carol,

> What is UL, Is it a different brand name of Insulin?

> I use Humolog during the daytime & NPH at night.

[Guest guest]

Below is the web page that describes Eli Lilly's family of insulin

products. If you want to find a description of NPH you have to do a

special search - they don't even include it on their products page

anymore. Humalog is also handled on a separate page, I think.

UL is also known as Ultralente, or under the LIlly brand as Humulin U.

It is a long acting insulin, usually taken every 12 hours. It has a

much longer and smoother action curve than NPH but it is not as flat an

action curve as Lantus. I don't remember the name of the company that

produces Lantus and Novolog, but maybe someone else will post that

website addy.

CarolR

http://www.lillydiabetes.com/product/humulin_family.jsp?reqNavId=5.3

wrote:

>

> Carol,

> What is UL, Is it a different brand name of Insulin?

> I use Humolog during the daytime & NPH at night.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/7/05 4:27:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lcblack@... writes:

>

>I dont understand this statment

>I tool UL last nite 35U

>again this morn 45U

..but when I eat will take my Humalog on a sliding scale

>RIGHT ??????

>>>>>>>

Yes, you will still use humalog for your meals, making sure you test before

eating so as to not use too much - if you have a sliding scale the doctor gave

you, it should be ok for now, though there are better ways to dose the meal

insulin.

Stacey

[Guest guest]

Lantus is by Aventis Pharmaceuticals US http://www.lantus.com/index.jsp

Novalog by Novo Nordisk

http://www.novonordisk-us.com/documents/promotion_page/document/diabetes_car

e.asp

Re: The drugs don't work for me

Below is the web page that describes Eli Lilly's family of insulin

products. If you want to find a description of NPH you have to do a

special search - they don't even include it on their products page

anymore. Humalog is also handled on a separate page, I think.

UL is also known as Ultralente, or under the LIlly brand as Humulin U.

It is a long acting insulin, usually taken every 12 hours. It has a

much longer and smoother action curve than NPH but it is not as flat an

action curve as Lantus. I don't remember the name of the company that

produces Lantus and Novolog, but maybe someone else will post that

website addy.

CarolR

[Guest guest]

The manufacturer of Lantus is Aventis. You could do a google search for

their website.

Lantus works very nicely for some people whose insulin requirements are

the same all day/night. However, there are lots of us who have

differing insulin needs, and Lantus doesn't work as well for us because

its curve is even. OTOH, taking 2 doses of UL (Ultralente) when your

insulin needs differ works quite well. For instance, I take 5 units UL

at 8 a.m. and 9.5 units of UL at 8 pm. and this keeps my BGs very even

between meals.

(I'm type 1 and not insulin resistant, so I don't need a large amount of

insulin as type 2s do).

Vicki

Re: The drugs don't work for me

>

> Below is the web page that describes Eli Lilly's family of insulin

> products. If you want to find a description of NPH you have to do a

> special search - they don't even include it on their products page

> anymore. Humalog is also handled on a separate page, I think.

>

> UL is also known as Ultralente, or under the LIlly brand as Humulin U.

> It is a long acting insulin, usually taken every 12 hours. It has a

> much longer and smoother action curve than NPH but it is not as flat

> an

> action curve as Lantus. I don't remember the name of the company that

> produces Lantus and Novolog, but maybe someone else will post that

> website addy.

>

> CarolR

>

> http://www.lillydiabetes.com/product/humulin_family.jsp?reqNavId=5.3

>

> wrote:

>>

>> Carol,

>> What is UL, Is it a different brand name of Insulin?

>> I use Humolog during the daytime & NPH at night.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Right. You don't need to pay any attention to the statement about being

a " pumper " unless you are using an insulin pump, something permanently

attached to your body somewhere. If you are using a syringe to inject

individual doses of insulin that statement does not apply to you.

CarolR

LCB wrote:

> I dont understand this statment

> I tool UL last nite 35U

> again this morn 45U

> but when I eat will take my Humalog on a sliding scale

> RIGHT ??????

>

>

>

>>

>>The ONLY time that someone uses Humalog/Novolog ONLY

>>is if they are a pumper...then we do use just that one

>>insulin. Liz