Re: Supplements for memory

[Guest guest]

You know what!!!! I would have to be a millionaire to afford all the supplements

mentioned on lists. And I can't afford even what I take now. And I am afraid

that by the

time Bush gets done with Medicare what I do have will be messed up worse.

Where do they all come from? And how many really work. I have a toothache

tonight. I

always have my teeth problems on the weekend when I can't get an appt. But how

can we

afford to get all this help let alone all the treatments not covered by Ins.

ml

[Guest guest]

You know what!!!! I would have to be a millionaire to afford all the supplements

mentioned on lists. And I can't afford even what I take now. And I am afraid

that by the

time Bush gets done with Medicare what I do have will be messed up worse.

Where do they all come from? And how many really work. I have a toothache

tonight. I

always have my teeth problems on the weekend when I can't get an appt. But how

can we

afford to get all this help let alone all the treatments not covered by Ins.

ml

[Guest guest]

Thanks ml for sharing your experiments and the results. They are most useful.

When I read some of my magazines and the claims for supplements I think to

myself, yeah I could use that benefit, yeah I could use that too, and so on . .

.. the list seems endless. Therefore one has to do the sort of experiments that

you mention.

Sorry you're suffering with toothache. I've found that a toothache kit

containing oil of cloves can be very helpful. They are available over the

counter at

most pharmacies.

With regard to experiments, I've found tremendous benefit at eliminating the

pain of polymyalgia rheumatica by the daily use of a very small amount of

Estriol cream. That's something that men would not normally experiment with, but

I

read it might help men with autoimmune diseases. It my case the results were

astounding.

[Guest guest]

Thanks whoever. It seems that my e-mail does not always include quote marks

and I'm not sure who is making the comments.

[Guest guest]

<<phosphatidyl choline or serine for memory yet?>>

I know just how you feel, ml, but I do want to tell you that this particular

supplement (PS) was recommended for my old dog (almost 14 years old with

some cognitive problems) and it really helped him very much. Puritan's

Pride is having a sale on their Neuro-PS where you can get 90 pills for

$34.95 (www.puritan.com) I couldn't afford to keep him on this, but it was

amazingly helpful during the time he was taking it and he has been better

since. I have known a number of dog owners who put their dogs on this pill

and then began taking it themselves when they saw good results! This is

just what I know and of course, YMMV.

All the best to you,

Jo in MN

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Re: Supplements for memory

>

> You know what!!!! I would have to be a millionaire to afford all the

supplements

> mentioned on lists. And I can't afford even what I take now. And I am

afraid that by the

> time Bush gets done with Medicare what I do have will be messed up worse.

>

> Where do they all come from? And how many really work. I have a toothache

tonight. I

> always have my teeth problems on the weekend when I can't get an appt. But

how can we

> afford to get all this help let alone all the treatments not covered by

Ins.

>

> ml

[Guest guest]

Someone wrote:

> When trying supplements or herbs on myself, I use an experimental approach,

> only adding one thing at a time, using it for a while to see if there is

> improvement, stopping to see if there is a negative change, then starting

again

> to see if there is improvement (scientifically, this is known as an ABA

> model). MOST of the supplements I have tried did not work for me. The ones

that

> had a definite impact were Glucosamine, Wobenzyme, Turmeric, Melatonin, St.

> 's Wort, Papaya (digestive enzymes), Valerian, Black Cohosh/Dong Quai,

> Arnica, and Isocort. Turmeric really helps with inflammation. I used

> Glucosamine after an arthroscopy on a really bad knee, and it really

eliminated a lot

> of pain and improved joint function. Wobenzyme helps a great deal with

> inflammation. And, Isocort helped me with some of my adrenal issues.

Melatonin

> is a good sleep aid for me. And, St. 's Wort I have found to work as well

> as Prozac. I used to grow my own SJW, dry, grind, and cap it myself.

> Papaya works on indigestion...but Nexium, or even Tums, works much better.

> Both I and a friend, both of us with hiatal hernias, agree on this one.

> Valerian is great as an anxiolytic. Black Cohosh and Dong Quai are both plant

> estrogens, effective for me with hot flashes...but they have the same risks as

> conventional hormone replacement therapy. Arnica will clear up bruises very

> quickly.

To whoever wrote this, be it or someone else, I say thanks. The

information is helpful, and the ABA approach is what I use.

[Guest guest]

Someone wrote:

> When trying supplements or herbs on myself, I use an experimental approach,

> only adding one thing at a time, using it for a while to see if there is

> improvement, stopping to see if there is a negative change, then starting

again

> to see if there is improvement (scientifically, this is known as an ABA

> model). MOST of the supplements I have tried did not work for me. The ones

that

> had a definite impact were Glucosamine, Wobenzyme, Turmeric, Melatonin, St.

> 's Wort, Papaya (digestive enzymes), Valerian, Black Cohosh/Dong Quai,

> Arnica, and Isocort. Turmeric really helps with inflammation. I used

> Glucosamine after an arthroscopy on a really bad knee, and it really

eliminated a lot

> of pain and improved joint function. Wobenzyme helps a great deal with

> inflammation. And, Isocort helped me with some of my adrenal issues.

Melatonin

> is a good sleep aid for me. And, St. 's Wort I have found to work as well

> as Prozac. I used to grow my own SJW, dry, grind, and cap it myself.

> Papaya works on indigestion...but Nexium, or even Tums, works much better.

> Both I and a friend, both of us with hiatal hernias, agree on this one.

> Valerian is great as an anxiolytic. Black Cohosh and Dong Quai are both plant

> estrogens, effective for me with hot flashes...but they have the same risks as

> conventional hormone replacement therapy. Arnica will clear up bruises very

> quickly.

To whoever wrote this, be it or someone else, I say thanks. The

information is helpful, and the ABA approach is what I use.

[Guest guest]

Someone wrote:

> When trying supplements or herbs on myself, I use an experimental approach,

> only adding one thing at a time, using it for a while to see if there is

> improvement, stopping to see if there is a negative change, then starting

again

> to see if there is improvement (scientifically, this is known as an ABA

> model). MOST of the supplements I have tried did not work for me. The ones

that

> had a definite impact were Glucosamine, Wobenzyme, Turmeric, Melatonin, St.

> 's Wort, Papaya (digestive enzymes), Valerian, Black Cohosh/Dong Quai,

> Arnica, and Isocort. Turmeric really helps with inflammation. I used

> Glucosamine after an arthroscopy on a really bad knee, and it really

eliminated a lot

> of pain and improved joint function. Wobenzyme helps a great deal with

> inflammation. And, Isocort helped me with some of my adrenal issues.

Melatonin

> is a good sleep aid for me. And, St. 's Wort I have found to work as well

> as Prozac. I used to grow my own SJW, dry, grind, and cap it myself.

> Papaya works on indigestion...but Nexium, or even Tums, works much better.

> Both I and a friend, both of us with hiatal hernias, agree on this one.

> Valerian is great as an anxiolytic. Black Cohosh and Dong Quai are both plant

> estrogens, effective for me with hot flashes...but they have the same risks as

> conventional hormone replacement therapy. Arnica will clear up bruises very

> quickly.

To whoever wrote this, be it or someone else, I say thanks. The

information is helpful, and the ABA approach is what I use.

[Guest guest]

At 11:48 PM 3/5/05, ml wrote:

>You know what!!!! I would have to be a millionaire to afford all the

>supplements

>mentioned on lists. And I can't afford even what I take now.

That's just what I was thinking when I read the last message about them.

Cinnamon, at least, is inexpensive, as is tea and vinegar.

sky

[Guest guest]

> >plan to try eyebright for memory next.<

>

> Hi Helen,

>

> Have you tried phosphatidyl choline or serine for memory yet?

>

> Hugs, Dianne

Lecithin, coenzyme Q10, b-vitamins and growth hormone increase would

be my choice. The HGH increase alone has been used to reverse neural

sheath damage that occurs due to Alzheimer's for example.

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

Hi All

I completely agree with this,:

" My opinion:

The bottom line is if you are lacking in whatever the supplement

provides, it will make a difference.

Otherwise, skip it. "

I have a couple of extra rules for myself. If I can't get it off the

shelf in a pharmacy or health food shop, I'n not interested. If it has

to be sold by MLM or mail order then it goes off the scale on my

skeptic's index. So forget things like Xango/Mangosteen etc.

The critical thing is to only investigate supplements if you cannot

meet the need from your diet and lifestyle. So the first place to look

for additional vitamins and nutrients is on the fruit and vegetable

shelves at your green-grocer and supermarket, and at your meat supplier.

If you want to know what is in those foods, go to:

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/SR15/wtrank/wt_rank.html

Pick the item you are interested in, click on the " W " button and

you'll get a list of foods.

If, and only if, diet and lifestyle don't meet the requirement, then

discuss it with your doctor before adding any supplement. You need to

at least check for contra-indication with your medications. There are

some surprising ones - St 's Wort needs care, even grapefruit can

be very dangerous. Additionally, it may also be wise to have a test to

see whether or not there is an actual deficiency which may need other

action to correct it.

Just my opinion.

Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.

--

Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

[Guest guest]

Hi All

I completely agree with this,:

" My opinion:

The bottom line is if you are lacking in whatever the supplement

provides, it will make a difference.

Otherwise, skip it. "

I have a couple of extra rules for myself. If I can't get it off the

shelf in a pharmacy or health food shop, I'n not interested. If it has

to be sold by MLM or mail order then it goes off the scale on my

skeptic's index. So forget things like Xango/Mangosteen etc.

The critical thing is to only investigate supplements if you cannot

meet the need from your diet and lifestyle. So the first place to look

for additional vitamins and nutrients is on the fruit and vegetable

shelves at your green-grocer and supermarket, and at your meat supplier.

If you want to know what is in those foods, go to:

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/SR15/wtrank/wt_rank.html

Pick the item you are interested in, click on the " W " button and

you'll get a list of foods.

If, and only if, diet and lifestyle don't meet the requirement, then

discuss it with your doctor before adding any supplement. You need to

at least check for contra-indication with your medications. There are

some surprising ones - St 's Wort needs care, even grapefruit can

be very dangerous. Additionally, it may also be wise to have a test to

see whether or not there is an actual deficiency which may need other

action to correct it.

Just my opinion.

Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.

--

Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

[Guest guest]

Hi All

I completely agree with this,:

" My opinion:

The bottom line is if you are lacking in whatever the supplement

provides, it will make a difference.

Otherwise, skip it. "

I have a couple of extra rules for myself. If I can't get it off the

shelf in a pharmacy or health food shop, I'n not interested. If it has

to be sold by MLM or mail order then it goes off the scale on my

skeptic's index. So forget things like Xango/Mangosteen etc.

The critical thing is to only investigate supplements if you cannot

meet the need from your diet and lifestyle. So the first place to look

for additional vitamins and nutrients is on the fruit and vegetable

shelves at your green-grocer and supermarket, and at your meat supplier.

If you want to know what is in those foods, go to:

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/SR15/wtrank/wt_rank.html

Pick the item you are interested in, click on the " W " button and

you'll get a list of foods.

If, and only if, diet and lifestyle don't meet the requirement, then

discuss it with your doctor before adding any supplement. You need to

at least check for contra-indication with your medications. There are

some surprising ones - St 's Wort needs care, even grapefruit can

be very dangerous. Additionally, it may also be wise to have a test to

see whether or not there is an actual deficiency which may need other

action to correct it.

Just my opinion.

Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.

--

Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.