Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 >>>>The problems among hypo people having to do with that big ligament that >>>>connects the heel with the toe bones is a whole different problem. - could you explain this in more detail, please? ...... joan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 The bone density test that was given her did not tell her anything about her risk of osteoporosis because that testing is done on the spinal column and the hip joints, cut and dried. In plantar fasciitis (the foot), the plantar fasca (Sp?) is the tough ong ligament that connects the heel to the toes. It is also informally called the arch. It is very tough normally, as it is shaped in an arched up shape to keep certain parts of the foot from taking the abuse given by walking running standin etc.....In hypothyroidism, all the connective tissue of the body is weakened, especially if a person has been chronically hypo for quite awhile. This tough arch is connective tissue that is quite naturally affected by hypo, so when it is weakened, it stretches out, exposing the foot to abnormal foot mechanics when walking or doing anything. The foot strikes the floor or ground in all the wrong places, causing not only a shift in the general shape of the foot, but also misshapen toe bones (because they've been carrying a load that they would not ordinarily be carrying in a healthy foot), hammer toes, from the bones being literally reshaped into something similar to near semicircles. There's also outward bent protrusion of the small toes on each side, with the toes coming flat against the ground, although the entire foot does not make an entirely flat impression with water or whatever the wet substance is used to take an impression. Because of this abnormal foot motion, pain eventually, or even suddenly shows up in the feet, transfers to the ankles (because that leaves a greater pulling on the achilles tendon of the ankles), even up the shins (because it's like flexing ones foot ALL the time, instead of a deliberate flex, shortening and stressing the shin areas). This also affects the back, as the balance in walking is in the foot. It's like the Leaning Tower of Pizza. Your whole body is affected by the way the foot is positioned in walking. Bone spurs also form on the heels or even on the undersides of especially the smaller toes, mostly to the outside of the feet because they are taking on a role of hitting the floor or pavement in a manner that they never have before and weren't intended to. the fatty pads on the heels wear down faster at an accelerated speed because they weren't intended to take the full brunt of the forward pace, they were intended to hit in an even manner because the arch in this ligament was originally there. I've had plantar fasciitis for yrs, and it was caused by being hypothyroid and not being diagnosed properly. When I went to perform the normal act of walking about a mile a day (with even the proper shoes), this is when the problem manifested itself. I got up from bed one morning, after having only walked around a mile the day before, and fell to my knees. That's how fast the ligament gave out. You could never tell at that time, by looking at the foot what was going on, only an expert could have, by watching me walk. I got orthotics made for me, one of which I have lost BTW, at that time, but it wasn't until I had been taking the thyroid hormone for better than a yr, that the problem improved, though not completely repaired. I suspect that it's a little something like a permanent hypertrophy in ANY muscle. It would probably take an expensive surgery to completely reshape it, then there's a long period of healing. Because of the enormous pressure of walking literally thousands of miles in a life time, I don't see how this ligament can ever completely heal itself, even with thyroid hormone, because of the constant duty of the ligament all our lives. It literally affects the way the entire body stands. Re: was Bone density test / foot problems - mary > >>>>The problems among hypo people having to do with that big ligament that > >>>>connects the heel > with the toe bones is a whole different problem. > > - could you explain this in more detail, please? > > ..... joan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 - this is very interesting. I'd been on synthroid only for many years, but suddenly last year, I couldn't wear any of my shoes. I thought it was due to edema at the time, but then I noticed I can no longer walk barefoot. I HAVE to wear something with an arch support. I didn't know what was happening, but attributed it to neuropathy, which I was diagnosed with around that time. I had to start with a new pcp last week due to health plan changes, and I told him about the excruciating heel pan I had for 3 weeks about a month ago. I could hardly walk when I got out of bed in the morning. The doc said that was plantar fascitis and had nothing to do with hypo. I asked, then why did it last only 3 weeks? He said I was lucky. However, my feet still cause me a lot of trouble. Sudden shooting pain in various places. If I'm on my feet for awhile, I can hardly walk. Especially by the end of the day. I've been wondering what to do about it. I wonder if Armour will help......... I'm working my way up to optimal dose since April. Thanks for all the info, . .....joan >>>>>>>>In plantar fasciitis (the foot), the plantar fasca (Sp?) is the tough ong ligament that connects the heel to the toes. It is also informally called the arch. It is very tough normally, as it is shaped in an arched up shape to keep certain parts of the foot from taking the abuse given by walking running standin etc.....In hypothyroidism, all the connective tissue of the body is weakened, especially if a person has been chronically hypo for quite awhile. This tough arch is connective tissue that is quite naturally affected by hypo, so when it is weakened, it stretches out, exposing the foot to abnormal foot mechanics when walking or doing anything. The foot strikes the floor or ground in all the wrong places, causing not only a shift in the general shape of the foot, but also misshapen toe bones (because they've been carrying a load that they would not ordinarily be carrying in a healthy foot), hammer toes, from the bones being literally reshaped into something similar to near semicircles. There's also outward bent protrusion of the small toes on each side, with the toes coming flat against the ground, although the entire foot does not make an entirely flat impression with water or whatever the wet substance is used to take an impression. Because of this abnormal foot motion, pain eventually, or even suddenly shows up in the feet, transfers to the ankles (because that leaves a greater pulling on the achilles tendon of the ankles), even up the shins (because it's like flexing ones foot ALL the time, instead of a deliberate flex, shortening and stressing the shin areas). This also affects the back, as the balance in walking is in the foot. It's like the Leaning Tower of Pizza. Your whole body is affected by the way the foot is positioned in walking. Bone spurs also form on the heels or even on the undersides of especially the smaller toes, mostly to the outside of the feet because they are taking on a role of hitting the floor or pavement in a manner that they never have before and weren't intended to. the fatty pads on the heels wear down faster at an accelerated speed because they weren't intended to take the full brunt of the forward pace, they were intended to hit in an even manner because the arch in this ligament was originally there. I've had plantar fasciitis for yrs, and it was caused by being hypothyroid and not being diagnosed properly. When I went to perform the normal act of walking about a mile a day (with even the proper shoes), this is when the problem manifested itself. I got up from bed one morning, after having only walked around a mile the day before, and fell to my knees. That's how fast the ligament gave out. You could never tell at that time, by looking at the foot what was going on, only an expert could have, by watching me walk. I got orthotics made for me, one of which I have lost BTW, at that time, but it wasn't until I had been taking the thyroid hormone for better than a yr, that the problem improved, though not completely repaired. I suspect that it's a little something like a permanent hypertrophy in ANY muscle. It would probably take an expensive surgery to completely reshape it, then there's a long period of healing. Because of the enormous pressure of walking literally thousands of miles in a life time, I don't see how this ligament can ever completely heal itself, even with thyroid hormone, because of the constant duty of the ligament all our lives. It literally affects the way the entire body stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 I could hardly walk when I got out of bed in the morning. The > doc said that was plantar fascitis and had nothing to do with hypo. I > asked, then why did it last only 3 weeks? He said I was lucky. > > However, my feet still cause me a lot of trouble. Sudden shooting pain > in various places. If I'm on my feet for awhile, I can hardly walk. > Especially by the end of the day. I've been wondering what to do about > it. I wonder if Armour will help......... I'm working my way up to > optimal dose since April. > > Thanks for all the info, . > ....joan this is one of the things that usually gets better with time, once on the proper dose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 I could hardly walk when I got out of bed in the morning. The > doc said that was plantar fascitis and had nothing to do with hypo. I > asked, then why did it last only 3 weeks? He said I was lucky. > > However, my feet still cause me a lot of trouble. Sudden shooting pain > in various places. If I'm on my feet for awhile, I can hardly walk. > Especially by the end of the day. I've been wondering what to do about > it. I wonder if Armour will help......... I'm working my way up to > optimal dose since April. > > Thanks for all the info, . > ....joan this is one of the things that usually gets better with time, once on the proper dose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 I could hardly walk when I got out of bed in the morning. The > doc said that was plantar fascitis and had nothing to do with hypo. I > asked, then why did it last only 3 weeks? He said I was lucky. > > However, my feet still cause me a lot of trouble. Sudden shooting pain > in various places. If I'm on my feet for awhile, I can hardly walk. > Especially by the end of the day. I've been wondering what to do about > it. I wonder if Armour will help......... I'm working my way up to > optimal dose since April. > > Thanks for all the info, . > ....joan this is one of the things that usually gets better with time, once on the proper dose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Yes it DOES get alot better with time! I can remember not 3 years ago limping very badly especially getting out of bed in the mornings. My feet would gradually wither get numb or feel better the more I walked on them during the day, but the worst soreness was in the AM. That is GONE now. Now when I have foot pain it is normal (evenings) from standing on my feet all day at work and a good hot soak or overnight rest is all they need. Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 Fascinating, ! Sorry for your problem though. I have a bone spur on my right big toe. But I have the Morton's neuroma on my left foot. Have you heard if hypothyroidism has anything to do with this? I thought perhaps it was due to low B12. Thanks. in Va. The bone density test that was given her did not tell her anything about her risk of osteoporosis because that testing is done on the spinal column and the hip joints, cut and dried. In plantar fasciitis (the foot), the plantar fasca (Sp?) is the tough ong ligament that connects the heel to the toes. It is also informally called the arch. It is very tough normally, as it is shaped in an arched up shape to keep certain parts of the foot from taking the abuse given by walking running standin etc.....In hypothyroidism, all the connective tissue of the body is weakened, especially if a person has been chronically hypo for quite awhile. This tough arch is connective tissue that is quite naturally affected by hypo, so when it is weakened, it stretches out, exposing the foot to abnormal foot mechanics when walking or doing anything. The foot strikes the floor or ground in all the wrong places, causing not only a shift in the general shape of the foot, but also misshapen toe bones (because they've been carrying a load that they would not ordinarily be carrying in a healthy foot), hammer toes, from the bones being literally reshaped into something similar to near semicircles. There's also outward bent protrusion of the small toes on each side, with the toes coming flat against the ground, although the entire foot does not make an entirely flat impression with water or whatever the wet substance is used to take an impression. Because of this abnormal foot motion, pain eventually, or even suddenly shows up in the feet, transfers to the ankles (because that leaves a greater pulling on the achilles tendon of the ankles), even up the shins (because it's like flexing ones foot ALL the time, instead of a deliberate flex, shortening and stressing the shin areas). This also affects the back, as the balance in walking is in the foot. It's like the Leaning Tower of Pizza. Your whole body is affected by the way the foot is positioned in walking. Bone spurs also form on the heels or even on the undersides of especially the smaller toes, mostly to the outside of the feet because they are taking on a role of hitting the floor or pavement in a manner that they never have before and weren't intended to. the fatty pads on the heels wear down faster at an accelerated speed because they weren't intended to take the full brunt of the forward pace, they were intended to hit in an even manner because the arch in this ligament was originally there. I've had plantar fasciitis for yrs, and it was caused by being hypothyroid and not being diagnosed properly. When I went to perform the normal act of walking about a mile a day (with even the proper shoes), this is when the problem manifested itself. I got up from bed one morning, after having only walked around a mile the day before, and fell to my knees. That's how fast the ligament gave out. You could never tell at that time, by looking at the foot what was going on, only an expert could have, by watching me walk. I got orthotics made for me, one of which I have lost BTW, at that time, but it wasn't until I had been taking the thyroid hormone for better than a yr, that the problem improved, though not completely repaired. I suspect that it's a little something like a permanent hypertrophy in ANY muscle. It would probably take an expensive surgery to completely reshape it, then there's a long period of healing. Because of the enormous pressure of walking literally thousands of miles in a life time, I don't see how this ligament can ever completely heal itself, even with thyroid hormone, because of the constant duty of the ligament all our lives. It literally affects the way the entire body stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 Fascinating, ! Sorry for your problem though. I have a bone spur on my right big toe. But I have the Morton's neuroma on my left foot. Have you heard if hypothyroidism has anything to do with this? I thought perhaps it was due to low B12. Thanks. in Va. The bone density test that was given her did not tell her anything about her risk of osteoporosis because that testing is done on the spinal column and the hip joints, cut and dried. In plantar fasciitis (the foot), the plantar fasca (Sp?) is the tough ong ligament that connects the heel to the toes. It is also informally called the arch. It is very tough normally, as it is shaped in an arched up shape to keep certain parts of the foot from taking the abuse given by walking running standin etc.....In hypothyroidism, all the connective tissue of the body is weakened, especially if a person has been chronically hypo for quite awhile. This tough arch is connective tissue that is quite naturally affected by hypo, so when it is weakened, it stretches out, exposing the foot to abnormal foot mechanics when walking or doing anything. The foot strikes the floor or ground in all the wrong places, causing not only a shift in the general shape of the foot, but also misshapen toe bones (because they've been carrying a load that they would not ordinarily be carrying in a healthy foot), hammer toes, from the bones being literally reshaped into something similar to near semicircles. There's also outward bent protrusion of the small toes on each side, with the toes coming flat against the ground, although the entire foot does not make an entirely flat impression with water or whatever the wet substance is used to take an impression. Because of this abnormal foot motion, pain eventually, or even suddenly shows up in the feet, transfers to the ankles (because that leaves a greater pulling on the achilles tendon of the ankles), even up the shins (because it's like flexing ones foot ALL the time, instead of a deliberate flex, shortening and stressing the shin areas). This also affects the back, as the balance in walking is in the foot. It's like the Leaning Tower of Pizza. Your whole body is affected by the way the foot is positioned in walking. Bone spurs also form on the heels or even on the undersides of especially the smaller toes, mostly to the outside of the feet because they are taking on a role of hitting the floor or pavement in a manner that they never have before and weren't intended to. the fatty pads on the heels wear down faster at an accelerated speed because they weren't intended to take the full brunt of the forward pace, they were intended to hit in an even manner because the arch in this ligament was originally there. I've had plantar fasciitis for yrs, and it was caused by being hypothyroid and not being diagnosed properly. When I went to perform the normal act of walking about a mile a day (with even the proper shoes), this is when the problem manifested itself. I got up from bed one morning, after having only walked around a mile the day before, and fell to my knees. That's how fast the ligament gave out. You could never tell at that time, by looking at the foot what was going on, only an expert could have, by watching me walk. I got orthotics made for me, one of which I have lost BTW, at that time, but it wasn't until I had been taking the thyroid hormone for better than a yr, that the problem improved, though not completely repaired. I suspect that it's a little something like a permanent hypertrophy in ANY muscle. It would probably take an expensive surgery to completely reshape it, then there's a long period of healing. Because of the enormous pressure of walking literally thousands of miles in a life time, I don't see how this ligament can ever completely heal itself, even with thyroid hormone, because of the constant duty of the ligament all our lives. It literally affects the way the entire body stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 Fascinating, ! Sorry for your problem though. I have a bone spur on my right big toe. But I have the Morton's neuroma on my left foot. Have you heard if hypothyroidism has anything to do with this? I thought perhaps it was due to low B12. Thanks. in Va. The bone density test that was given her did not tell her anything about her risk of osteoporosis because that testing is done on the spinal column and the hip joints, cut and dried. In plantar fasciitis (the foot), the plantar fasca (Sp?) is the tough ong ligament that connects the heel to the toes. It is also informally called the arch. It is very tough normally, as it is shaped in an arched up shape to keep certain parts of the foot from taking the abuse given by walking running standin etc.....In hypothyroidism, all the connective tissue of the body is weakened, especially if a person has been chronically hypo for quite awhile. This tough arch is connective tissue that is quite naturally affected by hypo, so when it is weakened, it stretches out, exposing the foot to abnormal foot mechanics when walking or doing anything. The foot strikes the floor or ground in all the wrong places, causing not only a shift in the general shape of the foot, but also misshapen toe bones (because they've been carrying a load that they would not ordinarily be carrying in a healthy foot), hammer toes, from the bones being literally reshaped into something similar to near semicircles. There's also outward bent protrusion of the small toes on each side, with the toes coming flat against the ground, although the entire foot does not make an entirely flat impression with water or whatever the wet substance is used to take an impression. Because of this abnormal foot motion, pain eventually, or even suddenly shows up in the feet, transfers to the ankles (because that leaves a greater pulling on the achilles tendon of the ankles), even up the shins (because it's like flexing ones foot ALL the time, instead of a deliberate flex, shortening and stressing the shin areas). This also affects the back, as the balance in walking is in the foot. It's like the Leaning Tower of Pizza. Your whole body is affected by the way the foot is positioned in walking. Bone spurs also form on the heels or even on the undersides of especially the smaller toes, mostly to the outside of the feet because they are taking on a role of hitting the floor or pavement in a manner that they never have before and weren't intended to. the fatty pads on the heels wear down faster at an accelerated speed because they weren't intended to take the full brunt of the forward pace, they were intended to hit in an even manner because the arch in this ligament was originally there. I've had plantar fasciitis for yrs, and it was caused by being hypothyroid and not being diagnosed properly. When I went to perform the normal act of walking about a mile a day (with even the proper shoes), this is when the problem manifested itself. I got up from bed one morning, after having only walked around a mile the day before, and fell to my knees. That's how fast the ligament gave out. You could never tell at that time, by looking at the foot what was going on, only an expert could have, by watching me walk. I got orthotics made for me, one of which I have lost BTW, at that time, but it wasn't until I had been taking the thyroid hormone for better than a yr, that the problem improved, though not completely repaired. I suspect that it's a little something like a permanent hypertrophy in ANY muscle. It would probably take an expensive surgery to completely reshape it, then there's a long period of healing. Because of the enormous pressure of walking literally thousands of miles in a life time, I don't see how this ligament can ever completely heal itself, even with thyroid hormone, because of the constant duty of the ligament all our lives. It literally affects the way the entire body stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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