Re: HELP!! PELVIC FL DYSFUNCTION : :CAN MUSCLE SPASMS SPREAD CLEAR UP THE BODY?

[Guest guest]

--- Snofyre wrote:

>

> who is the dr who owns this website? H. Gleazer?

> thanks

Hi Snow,

Actually I am not sure whether Dr. Glazer is the owner

or Dr. is the owner. They work together.

Here is a website for Dr. Glazer and there is even a

picture of Dr. at the bottom--all nice

guys--love 's hair and beard but am mad at him

right now.

http://www.vulvodynia.com/about.htm

Take care of yourself.

Arline

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[Guest guest]

--- Kristy Sokoloski wrote:

> It is not nonsense that surgery can cause trauma to

> the body

> such as a hysterectomy. I know of quite a few women

> that it

> happened to.

Kristy, I think the whole fibromyalgia craze is

nonsense and to say that trauma to the body such as a

hysterectomy can cause the entire massive cascade of

supposed FM symptoms is nonsense especially since they

are unable to prove any of it.

>

> And yes, there are some out there looking for more

> answers to

> the issue of fibromyalgia when it comes to a cure

> even though it

> may not seem like it.

Who and where and what?

We still have a ways to go in

> understanding all the aspects of fibro b/c there are

> other

> connecting factors to it such as vulvar vestibulitis

> syndrome

> for some women as well as Celiac for others as you

> have

> mentioned.

>

> I do agree that the thing about magnesium and the

> connection to

> pain is a scam.

I don't think the magnesium is a scam--just the whole

FM onslaught.

I've heard of it being mentioned

> before as a

> way to supposedly help menstrual cramps. One girl

> that I had

> talked to that I knew might have endo said her dr

> kept telling

> her to take magnesium for the cramps and it wasn't

> helping, when

> she had a lap with a different dr, sure enough she

> had endo.

I suppose if somebody had a deficiency of magnesium

that might be a cause of cramps but just to off the

top of the doc's head for him to say take magnesium is

pretty silly. Endo is such a terrible thing. I

remember my younger life being a nightmare because of

it. All I remember is pain and being sick.

>

> I'm not sure what all is being accounted for in some

> of the

> studies I know about. I've wondered the same thing

> and I agree

> that if they aren't including gluten sensitivity as

> part of it

> then they aren't getting the complete pic as it may

> apply to

> some people. I would have to check with the Medical

> Library

> here to see what I can find and also check PubMed

> and such to

> see what some of the other studies are out there to

> see what

> they are taking in to account in the studies both on

> a large and

> small scale.

>

> Actually it's not too bad that being checked for

> Celiac is at

> the bottom of the list of priorities for me right

> now. And the

> reason it is is b/c of money issues. I don't have a

> job right

> now. And when I do have one I will get that tended

> to. I want

> to get it done but I can't do it now. Once I get a

> job and take

> care of some of my other priorities then the

> checking for Celiac

> will get moved up b/c I do believe it needs to be

> done. Just

> not as top priority at this time.

>

> Oh I definitely agree that it is not rare in this

> country and

> that it is an epidemic issue but for most drs in

> this country

> b/c of the way they are trained (if trained here in

> the U.S.) it

> is considered rare and it shouldn't be.

>

> Symptoms of FM are also the symptoms of thyroid

> problems.

Thyroid problems are also symptoms of Gluten

Sensitivity.

>

> I did meet a couple of ladies that have fibro and

> went gluten

> free and some of their pain eased up but they all

> said that they

> still have fibro.

That is likely because they are not totally gluten

free. It is hard to do. Plus likely they have at least

one other food sensitivity.

>

> But so you know when I hear of someone on other

> lists that say

> that have sensitivies to wheat and such I beg them

> to get

> checked for Celiac b/c of that.

Good Girl!!

As I think I told

> you one time

> one girl tried to tell me that just b/c she couldn't

> handle

> wheat that didn't mean that she was gluten

> intolerant. I argued

> with her on it for a while b/c of the info that you

> have shared

> on the subject and also what I've read at the Gluten

> Free Pantry

> site and one other place.

It is very hard to do but when it is accomplished one

would think of eating it.

>

> There was one book I would love to get but I can't

> b/c again I

> don't have the money but will get whenever I get a

> job as well.

> It was called The Gluten Free Kitchen and it looked

> very

> interesting from what I could tell when I saw it at

> the Health

> Food Store a while back.

>

> I will let you know when I am able to get tested and

> whether or

> not it plays in to my issues after I get some of the

> other

> issues healthwise I have possibly going tended to.

>

> Thank you for making us aware of the seriousness of

> the issue,

> especially after when I first heard about it from a

> friend whose

> son has it.

You are a nice girl, Kristy.

Arline

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[Guest guest]

--- Kristy Sokoloski wrote:

> It is not nonsense that surgery can cause trauma to

> the body

> such as a hysterectomy. I know of quite a few women

> that it

> happened to.

Kristy, I think the whole fibromyalgia craze is

nonsense and to say that trauma to the body such as a

hysterectomy can cause the entire massive cascade of

supposed FM symptoms is nonsense especially since they

are unable to prove any of it.

>

> And yes, there are some out there looking for more

> answers to

> the issue of fibromyalgia when it comes to a cure

> even though it

> may not seem like it.

Who and where and what?

We still have a ways to go in

> understanding all the aspects of fibro b/c there are

> other

> connecting factors to it such as vulvar vestibulitis

> syndrome

> for some women as well as Celiac for others as you

> have

> mentioned.

>

> I do agree that the thing about magnesium and the

> connection to

> pain is a scam.

I don't think the magnesium is a scam--just the whole

FM onslaught.

I've heard of it being mentioned

> before as a

> way to supposedly help menstrual cramps. One girl

> that I had

> talked to that I knew might have endo said her dr

> kept telling

> her to take magnesium for the cramps and it wasn't

> helping, when

> she had a lap with a different dr, sure enough she

> had endo.

I suppose if somebody had a deficiency of magnesium

that might be a cause of cramps but just to off the

top of the doc's head for him to say take magnesium is

pretty silly. Endo is such a terrible thing. I

remember my younger life being a nightmare because of

it. All I remember is pain and being sick.

>

> I'm not sure what all is being accounted for in some

> of the

> studies I know about. I've wondered the same thing

> and I agree

> that if they aren't including gluten sensitivity as

> part of it

> then they aren't getting the complete pic as it may

> apply to

> some people. I would have to check with the Medical

> Library

> here to see what I can find and also check PubMed

> and such to

> see what some of the other studies are out there to

> see what

> they are taking in to account in the studies both on

> a large and

> small scale.

>

> Actually it's not too bad that being checked for

> Celiac is at

> the bottom of the list of priorities for me right

> now. And the

> reason it is is b/c of money issues. I don't have a

> job right

> now. And when I do have one I will get that tended

> to. I want

> to get it done but I can't do it now. Once I get a

> job and take

> care of some of my other priorities then the

> checking for Celiac

> will get moved up b/c I do believe it needs to be

> done. Just

> not as top priority at this time.

>

> Oh I definitely agree that it is not rare in this

> country and

> that it is an epidemic issue but for most drs in

> this country

> b/c of the way they are trained (if trained here in

> the U.S.) it

> is considered rare and it shouldn't be.

>

> Symptoms of FM are also the symptoms of thyroid

> problems.

Thyroid problems are also symptoms of Gluten

Sensitivity.

>

> I did meet a couple of ladies that have fibro and

> went gluten

> free and some of their pain eased up but they all

> said that they

> still have fibro.

That is likely because they are not totally gluten

free. It is hard to do. Plus likely they have at least

one other food sensitivity.

>

> But so you know when I hear of someone on other

> lists that say

> that have sensitivies to wheat and such I beg them

> to get

> checked for Celiac b/c of that.

Good Girl!!

As I think I told

> you one time

> one girl tried to tell me that just b/c she couldn't

> handle

> wheat that didn't mean that she was gluten

> intolerant. I argued

> with her on it for a while b/c of the info that you

> have shared

> on the subject and also what I've read at the Gluten

> Free Pantry

> site and one other place.

It is very hard to do but when it is accomplished one

would think of eating it.

>

> There was one book I would love to get but I can't

> b/c again I

> don't have the money but will get whenever I get a

> job as well.

> It was called The Gluten Free Kitchen and it looked

> very

> interesting from what I could tell when I saw it at

> the Health

> Food Store a while back.

>

> I will let you know when I am able to get tested and

> whether or

> not it plays in to my issues after I get some of the

> other

> issues healthwise I have possibly going tended to.

>

> Thank you for making us aware of the seriousness of

> the issue,

> especially after when I first heard about it from a

> friend whose

> son has it.

You are a nice girl, Kristy.

Arline

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[Guest guest]

The name of the list owner is printed (on every message,

even this one) near the bottom of the page. It's

Dee Troll, who also runs an LS group, I believe.

Dr. Glazer's three groups are identified on his

website, at the address you posted.

I still have the colorful shirt, and the Banana

Republic vest, but I shaved off the beard when

the top of my head turned gray. Clearly if I had

known that Arline " loved " my hair and beard I

would never have done that!

, PhD

BABB wrote:

>

>

>

> --- Snofyre <snofyre00@... <mailto:snofyre00%40yahoo.com>> wrote:

>

> >

> > who is the dr who owns this website? H. Gleazer?

> > thanks

>

> Hi Snow,

>

> Actually I am not sure whether Dr. Glazer is the owner

> or Dr. is the owner. They work together.

>

> Here is a website for Dr. Glazer and there is even a

> picture of Dr. at the bottom--all nice

> guys--love 's hair and beard but am mad at him

> right now.

>

> http://www.vulvodynia.com/about.htm <http://www.vulvodynia.com/about.htm>

>

> Take care of yourself.

>

> Arline

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

The name of the list owner is printed (on every message,

even this one) near the bottom of the page. It's

Dee Troll, who also runs an LS group, I believe.

Dr. Glazer's three groups are identified on his

website, at the address you posted.

I still have the colorful shirt, and the Banana

Republic vest, but I shaved off the beard when

the top of my head turned gray. Clearly if I had

known that Arline " loved " my hair and beard I

would never have done that!

, PhD

BABB wrote:

>

>

>

> --- Snofyre <snofyre00@... <mailto:snofyre00%40yahoo.com>> wrote:

>

> >

> > who is the dr who owns this website? H. Gleazer?

> > thanks

>

> Hi Snow,

>

> Actually I am not sure whether Dr. Glazer is the owner

> or Dr. is the owner. They work together.

>

> Here is a website for Dr. Glazer and there is even a

> picture of Dr. at the bottom--all nice

> guys--love 's hair and beard but am mad at him

> right now.

>

> http://www.vulvodynia.com/about.htm <http://www.vulvodynia.com/about.htm>

>

> Take care of yourself.

>

> Arline

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

.... that's the first time I saw your picture as well. (thank Arline) .....

Yes I agree with AR.... I too really like the beard, *grin* I've been a beard person all my life *grin* it suits you well, gray hair or not. (Hey look at Connery, Woo wheeee what a sexy guy) LOL Ar don't be too mad at , he's a man *chuckle* just kidding of course. Now we can tease him as we do Tom eh? or how we did Dr. G. as well.

Hugs

Dee~

The humble owner of your VD group *grin* and has been here as a member since day one many Many years ago....

============================================ Here is a website for Dr. Glazer and there is even a picture of Dr. at the bottom--all nice guys--love 's hair and beard but am mad at him right now.....Arlinehttp://www.vulvodynia.com/about.htm <http://www.vulvodynia.com/about.htm>

[Guest guest]

.... that's the first time I saw your picture as well. (thank Arline) .....

Yes I agree with AR.... I too really like the beard, *grin* I've been a beard person all my life *grin* it suits you well, gray hair or not. (Hey look at Connery, Woo wheeee what a sexy guy) LOL Ar don't be too mad at , he's a man *chuckle* just kidding of course. Now we can tease him as we do Tom eh? or how we did Dr. G. as well.

Hugs

Dee~

The humble owner of your VD group *grin* and has been here as a member since day one many Many years ago....

============================================ Here is a website for Dr. Glazer and there is even a picture of Dr. at the bottom--all nice guys--love 's hair and beard but am mad at him right now.....Arlinehttp://www.vulvodynia.com/about.htm <http://www.vulvodynia.com/about.htm>

[Guest guest]

.... that's the first time I saw your picture as well. (thank Arline) .....

Yes I agree with AR.... I too really like the beard, *grin* I've been a beard person all my life *grin* it suits you well, gray hair or not. (Hey look at Connery, Woo wheeee what a sexy guy) LOL Ar don't be too mad at , he's a man *chuckle* just kidding of course. Now we can tease him as we do Tom eh? or how we did Dr. G. as well.

Hugs

Dee~

The humble owner of your VD group *grin* and has been here as a member since day one many Many years ago....

============================================ Here is a website for Dr. Glazer and there is even a picture of Dr. at the bottom--all nice guys--love 's hair and beard but am mad at him right now.....Arlinehttp://www.vulvodynia.com/about.htm <http://www.vulvodynia.com/about.htm>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dee,

Garsh, I should have told him. LOL I will never learn.

Last week I got a phone call from a guy I went to high

school with asking if I were going to be at the fifty

year high school reunion. (My gosh, can you believe

it? I didn't know anybody ever got that old.) Anyway

he asked me if I had known how very much he had cared

for me always!!! Ha!! No, I hadn't known but it surely

boosted the ego at least for the weekend. I told him

he should have told me. He is as rich as Midas at

least and so decent. OH well, time enough who knows

what will happen. LOL LIke time enough and we can

spoon with us both in a wheel chair. Of course he

probably has dementia anyway. ;O)

I'll bet is as cute without the beard.

Ar

--- DeeTroll wrote:

> .... that's the first time I saw your picture as

> well. (thank Arline) .....

>

> Yes I agree with AR.... I too really like the beard,

> *grin* I've been a beard person all my life *grin*

> it suits you well, gray hair or not. (Hey look at

> Connery, Woo wheeee what a sexy guy) LOL Ar

> don't be too mad at , he's a man *chuckle* just

> kidding of course. Now we can tease him as we do

> Tom eh? or how we did Dr. G. as well.

>

> Hugs

> Dee~

> The humble owner of your VD group *grin* and has

> been here as a member since day one many Many years

> ago....

>

> ============================================

> Here is a website for Dr. Glazer and there is even

> a

> picture of Dr. at the bottom--all nice

> guys--love 's hair and beard but am mad at him

> right now.....Arline

>

> http://www.vulvodynia.com/about.htm

> <http://www.vulvodynia.com/about.htm>

>

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