RE: Chemo length of rounds question

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Sue,

Sounds like you might be doing A/C. I had 6 mo of chemo. I got an IV push of

methotrexate and 5fu the first two Tues. of the month. The third week I took

Cytoxan pills and the fourth week I rested. This went on for 6 mo. This was back

in 1990.

I will keep you in my prayers.

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Chemo length of rounds question

My question for all of you is this, is it alway 8 rounds no matter

what type of chemo is decided upon? The reason I ask that is because I

have seen here and on other boards, the number differs from what I

appear to be slated for.

My tumor had clear margins, as well as no node involvement, and the

surgeon assured me that he was certain that all was removed. The path

report was also quite clear on the margins being clear all the way

around, and since I had such a rotten first time, it concerns me that

perhaps this might be 'over doing' (there is a history of heart

problems in my family, and one of the side effects of what I am

getting is potential heart issues) THAT would suck after all of this

too!

Just wondering what some of you have experienced, is it always 8?

Thanks as always,

sue

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[Guest guest]

Sue –

My onc initially said I would be fine with 4 a/c treatments. He later

changed it – since I was “doing so well” to add 2 more or the option of

taking 4 Taxol treatments. Like you, my nodes were clear and I had clear

margins. My surgeon didn’t even think the onc would recommend chemo. I’m

also estrogen positive. It was the first time I’ve ever gone against a

doctor’s recommendation, but I declined further chemo after the first 4.

Sometimes I wonder if I did the right thing and only the future will show if

I did. Currently I’m on a 5-year course of Arimidex.

Chemo length of rounds question

My question for all of you is this, is it alway 8 rounds no matter

what type of chemo is decided upon? The reason I ask that is because I

have seen here and on other boards, the number differs from what I

appear to be slated for.

My tumor had clear margins, as well as no node involvement, and the

surgeon assured me that he was certain that all was removed. The path

report was also quite clear on the margins being clear all the way

around, and since I had such a rotten first time, it concerns me that

perhaps this might be 'over doing' (there is a history of heart

problems in my family, and one of the side effects of what I am

getting is potential heart issues) THAT would suck after all of this

too!

Just wondering what some of you have experienced, is it always 8?

Thanks as always,

sue

[Guest guest]

Sue –

My onc initially said I would be fine with 4 a/c treatments. He later

changed it – since I was “doing so well” to add 2 more or the option of

taking 4 Taxol treatments. Like you, my nodes were clear and I had clear

margins. My surgeon didn’t even think the onc would recommend chemo. I’m

also estrogen positive. It was the first time I’ve ever gone against a

doctor’s recommendation, but I declined further chemo after the first 4.

Sometimes I wonder if I did the right thing and only the future will show if

I did. Currently I’m on a 5-year course of Arimidex.

Chemo length of rounds question

My question for all of you is this, is it alway 8 rounds no matter

what type of chemo is decided upon? The reason I ask that is because I

have seen here and on other boards, the number differs from what I

appear to be slated for.

My tumor had clear margins, as well as no node involvement, and the

surgeon assured me that he was certain that all was removed. The path

report was also quite clear on the margins being clear all the way

around, and since I had such a rotten first time, it concerns me that

perhaps this might be 'over doing' (there is a history of heart

problems in my family, and one of the side effects of what I am

getting is potential heart issues) THAT would suck after all of this

too!

Just wondering what some of you have experienced, is it always 8?

Thanks as always,

sue

[Guest guest]

Sue –

My onc initially said I would be fine with 4 a/c treatments. He later

changed it – since I was “doing so well” to add 2 more or the option of

taking 4 Taxol treatments. Like you, my nodes were clear and I had clear

margins. My surgeon didn’t even think the onc would recommend chemo. I’m

also estrogen positive. It was the first time I’ve ever gone against a

doctor’s recommendation, but I declined further chemo after the first 4.

Sometimes I wonder if I did the right thing and only the future will show if

I did. Currently I’m on a 5-year course of Arimidex.

Chemo length of rounds question

My question for all of you is this, is it alway 8 rounds no matter

what type of chemo is decided upon? The reason I ask that is because I

have seen here and on other boards, the number differs from what I

appear to be slated for.

My tumor had clear margins, as well as no node involvement, and the

surgeon assured me that he was certain that all was removed. The path

report was also quite clear on the margins being clear all the way

around, and since I had such a rotten first time, it concerns me that

perhaps this might be 'over doing' (there is a history of heart

problems in my family, and one of the side effects of what I am

getting is potential heart issues) THAT would suck after all of this

too!

Just wondering what some of you have experienced, is it always 8?

Thanks as always,

sue

[Guest guest]

I was stage 111 so I had 8 treatments of Chemo every 3 weeks and about 33 weeks

of Radiation and started on Tamoxifin December 2002 and then Arimidex Oct 2003

to present...have about 1 year and 4 months left.

Betsy (North Carolina)

Note: forwarded message attached.

[Guest guest]

Sue,

It's not always 8. I think the number of chemo

treatments is determined by the size and type and

grade of your tumor.

My tumor was 1.3 centimeters and I'm getting 4 rounds

of chemo a/c, no radiation, and then on to hormone

therapy.

--- Sue Michener wrote:

> My question for all of you is this, is it alway 8

> rounds no matter

> what type of chemo is decided upon? The reason I ask

> that is because I

> have seen here and on other boards, the number

> differs from what I

> appear to be slated for.

>

> My tumor had clear margins, as well as no node

> involvement, and the

> surgeon assured me that he was certain that all was

> removed. The path

> report was also quite clear on the margins being

> clear all the way

> around, and since I had such a rotten first time, it

> concerns me that

> perhaps this might be 'over doing' (there is a

> history of heart

> problems in my family, and one of the side effects

> of what I am

> getting is potential heart issues) THAT would suck

> after all of this

> too!

>

> Just wondering what some of you have experienced, is

> it always 8?

>

> Thanks as always,

>

> sue

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi, Sue -

No, it isn't always 8. Starting in June 2005, I had 4 of Caelyx and

cyclophosphamide over 3 months; then 4 of Taxol over 3 months; then 5

(double doses) of Navelbine with Neulasta, over 5 months. Took 11 months

altogether. And that was all to shrink the lump from 10cm down to 2.75cm

before surgery on May 8, 2006. Now I'm having radiotherapy - 20 treatments

done, and only 5 to go - finishing this coming Friday, 11 August. And I'm

taking Arimidex since the surgery, with no problems.

It seems there as many different treatment schedules as there are cancer

patients <G>. Shows that each one of us is special!

Hugs,

Margery.

============================================

margery@... in North Herts, UK

============================================

> Chemo length of rounds question

>

> My question for all of you is this, is it alway 8 rounds no matter

> what type of chemo is decided upon? The reason I ask that is

> because I

> have seen here and on other boards, the number differs from what I

> appear to be slated for.

>

> My tumor had clear margins, as well as no node involvement, and the

> surgeon assured me that he was certain that all was removed. The path

> report was also quite clear on the margins being clear all the way

> around, and since I had such a rotten first time, it concerns me that

> perhaps this might be 'over doing' (there is a history of heart

> problems in my family, and one of the side effects of what I am

> getting is potential heart issues) THAT would suck after all of this

> too!

>

> Just wondering what some of you have experienced, is it always 8?

>

> Thanks as always,

>

> sue

>

>

[Guest guest]

Betsy, you had 33 weeks of radiation! I'm only having 5 weeks - that's 25

doses, 5 days a week for 5 weeks. Did you have yours every day? Or once a

week? You must have had loads more than me.

My only side effects are a slight reddening of my skin, and a slight

sleepiness (but that may be the travelling - an hour and a half each way to

and from the Cancer Centre - or maybe our heatwave). How did you get on

with your radiation?

Margery.

============================================

margery@... in North Herts, UK

============================================

> Fwd: RE: Chemo length of rounds question

>

> I was stage 111 so I had 8 treatments of Chemo every 3 weeks

> and about 33 weeks of Radiation and started on Tamoxifin

> December 2002 and then Arimidex Oct 2003 to present...have

> about 1 year and 4 months left.

>

> Betsy (North Carolina)

>

[Guest guest]

Betsy, you had 33 weeks of radiation! I'm only having 5 weeks - that's 25

doses, 5 days a week for 5 weeks. Did you have yours every day? Or once a

week? You must have had loads more than me.

My only side effects are a slight reddening of my skin, and a slight

sleepiness (but that may be the travelling - an hour and a half each way to

and from the Cancer Centre - or maybe our heatwave). How did you get on

with your radiation?

Margery.

============================================

margery@... in North Herts, UK

============================================

> Fwd: RE: Chemo length of rounds question

>

> I was stage 111 so I had 8 treatments of Chemo every 3 weeks

> and about 33 weeks of Radiation and started on Tamoxifin

> December 2002 and then Arimidex Oct 2003 to present...have

> about 1 year and 4 months left.

>

> Betsy (North Carolina)

>

[Guest guest]

Betsy, you had 33 weeks of radiation! I'm only having 5 weeks - that's 25

doses, 5 days a week for 5 weeks. Did you have yours every day? Or once a

week? You must have had loads more than me.

My only side effects are a slight reddening of my skin, and a slight

sleepiness (but that may be the travelling - an hour and a half each way to

and from the Cancer Centre - or maybe our heatwave). How did you get on

with your radiation?

Margery.

============================================

margery@... in North Herts, UK

============================================

> Fwd: RE: Chemo length of rounds question

>

> I was stage 111 so I had 8 treatments of Chemo every 3 weeks

> and about 33 weeks of Radiation and started on Tamoxifin

> December 2002 and then Arimidex Oct 2003 to present...have

> about 1 year and 4 months left.

>

> Betsy (North Carolina)

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/11/2006 11:08:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

ki0dz@... writes:

I remember you saying before that it quite some time to shrink the

tumor. What kind was it? ER/PR + or what? I went for a second

opinion this week and the doc said that chemo probably would NOT shrink

an ER/PR + tumor (what I have).

-Frances

Hi Frances,

I am not Margery but I am having chemo to shrink mine and it is ER /PR + and

Her2 +.

It was quite large at the start.

I had 12 weeks of A/c and now having 12 weeks of taxol and herceptin, then

the surgery.

It is shinking/ has shrank mine ! it is all but gone now and they said it

will probably be gone -i have 4 trts left!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/12/2006 2:20:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

nancyt563731956@... writes:

Just woundering do you go thru surgery after the shrink the tumor down? My

tumor was 2,6 grade 2 he removed both breasts the tumor was in the left ,but

my right showed signs of cancer on my m.r.i. so they took it too ...my nodes

are clear,and margins good ,but will still be having cemo in a few days just

to be sure one of those little beasties excaped...

Yes, I sure do ..

I am having bi lateral mastectomies .

They did a needle biopsy of lymph nodes the same time as the needle biop of

right breast and there were cancer cells there so they recommended

mastectomy. The PET Scan that I had before starting chemo showed no cancer

anywhere

else in my body not even in the lymph or left breast but the left breast is

full of fibro cysts and I just wanted to go ahead and have both done after

considering everything. Was your type cancer Estrogen/ PR positive or Her 2

positive?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/12/2006 2:20:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

nancyt563731956@... writes:

Just woundering do you go thru surgery after the shrink the tumor down? My

tumor was 2,6 grade 2 he removed both breasts the tumor was in the left ,but

my right showed signs of cancer on my m.r.i. so they took it too ...my nodes

are clear,and margins good ,but will still be having cemo in a few days just

to be sure one of those little beasties excaped...

Yes, I sure do ..

I am having bi lateral mastectomies .

They did a needle biopsy of lymph nodes the same time as the needle biop of

right breast and there were cancer cells there so they recommended

mastectomy. The PET Scan that I had before starting chemo showed no cancer

anywhere

else in my body not even in the lymph or left breast but the left breast is

full of fibro cysts and I just wanted to go ahead and have both done after

considering everything. Was your type cancer Estrogen/ PR positive or Her 2

positive?

[Guest guest]

Quoting Margery Allcock :

>

> No, it isn't always 8. Starting in June 2005, I had 4 of Caelyx and

> cyclophosphamide over 3 months; then 4 of Taxol over 3 months; then 5

> (double doses) of Navelbine with Neulasta, over 5 months. Took 11 months

> altogether. And that was all to shrink the lump from 10cm down to 2.75cm

> before surgery on May 8, 2006. Now I'm having radiotherapy - 20 treatments

> done, and only 5 to go - finishing this coming Friday, 11 August. And I'm

> taking Arimidex since the surgery, with no problems.

I remember you saying before that it quite some time to shrink the

tumor. What kind was it? ER/PR + or what? I went for a second

opinion this week and the doc said that chemo probably would NOT shrink

an ER/PR + tumor (what I have).

-Frances

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[Guest guest]

Hi, -Frances -

My lump was strongly E+, weakly P+, and Her-. It seemed that the Caelyx,

cyclophosphamide, and Taxol had a small effect, and the Navelbine made a big

difference; but we weren't doing a lot of testing during the process so I'm

not sure how much each drug did.

Margery.

============================================

margery@... in North Herts, UK

============================================

> RE: Chemo length of rounds question

>

> Quoting Margery Allcock :

>

> >

> > No, it isn't always 8. Starting in June 2005, I had 4 of Caelyx and

> > cyclophosphamide over 3 months; then 4 of Taxol over 3

> months; then 5

> > (double doses) of Navelbine with Neulasta, over 5 months.

> Took 11 months

> > altogether. And that was all to shrink the lump from 10cm

> down to 2.75cm

> > before surgery on May 8, 2006. Now I'm having radiotherapy

> - 20 treatments

> > done, and only 5 to go - finishing this coming Friday, 11

> August. And I'm

> > taking Arimidex since the surgery, with no problems.

> I remember you saying before that it quite some time to shrink the

> tumor. What kind was it? ER/PR + or what? I went for a second

> opinion this week and the doc said that chemo probably would

> NOT shrink

> an ER/PR + tumor (what I have).

> -Frances

>

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>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, -Frances -

My lump was strongly E+, weakly P+, and Her-. It seemed that the Caelyx,

cyclophosphamide, and Taxol had a small effect, and the Navelbine made a big

difference; but we weren't doing a lot of testing during the process so I'm

not sure how much each drug did.

Margery.

============================================

margery@... in North Herts, UK

============================================

> RE: Chemo length of rounds question

>

> Quoting Margery Allcock :

>

> >

> > No, it isn't always 8. Starting in June 2005, I had 4 of Caelyx and

> > cyclophosphamide over 3 months; then 4 of Taxol over 3

> months; then 5

> > (double doses) of Navelbine with Neulasta, over 5 months.

> Took 11 months

> > altogether. And that was all to shrink the lump from 10cm

> down to 2.75cm

> > before surgery on May 8, 2006. Now I'm having radiotherapy

> - 20 treatments

> > done, and only 5 to go - finishing this coming Friday, 11

> August. And I'm

> > taking Arimidex since the surgery, with no problems.

> I remember you saying before that it quite some time to shrink the

> tumor. What kind was it? ER/PR + or what? I went for a second

> opinion this week and the doc said that chemo probably would

> NOT shrink

> an ER/PR + tumor (what I have).

> -Frances

>

> M R Bartels ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^

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>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, -Frances -

My lump was strongly E+, weakly P+, and Her-. It seemed that the Caelyx,

cyclophosphamide, and Taxol had a small effect, and the Navelbine made a big

difference; but we weren't doing a lot of testing during the process so I'm

not sure how much each drug did.

Margery.

============================================

margery@... in North Herts, UK

============================================

> RE: Chemo length of rounds question

>

> Quoting Margery Allcock :

>

> >

> > No, it isn't always 8. Starting in June 2005, I had 4 of Caelyx and

> > cyclophosphamide over 3 months; then 4 of Taxol over 3

> months; then 5

> > (double doses) of Navelbine with Neulasta, over 5 months.

> Took 11 months

> > altogether. And that was all to shrink the lump from 10cm

> down to 2.75cm

> > before surgery on May 8, 2006. Now I'm having radiotherapy

> - 20 treatments

> > done, and only 5 to go - finishing this coming Friday, 11

> August. And I'm

> > taking Arimidex since the surgery, with no problems.

> I remember you saying before that it quite some time to shrink the

> tumor. What kind was it? ER/PR + or what? I went for a second

> opinion this week and the doc said that chemo probably would

> NOT shrink

> an ER/PR + tumor (what I have).

> -Frances

>

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>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In the April issue of JAMA, there is a study that determined that

chemo is more effetive in estrogen negative women if they are node

positive. Here is the link

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/295/14/1658

Ruth

>

> Quoting Margery Allcock :

>

> >

> > No, it isn't always 8. Starting in June 2005, I had 4 of Caelyx and

> > cyclophosphamide over 3 months; then 4 of Taxol over 3 months; then 5

> > (double doses) of Navelbine with Neulasta, over 5 months. Took 11

months

> > altogether. And that was all to shrink the lump from 10cm down to

2.75cm

> > before surgery on May 8, 2006. Now I'm having radiotherapy - 20

treatments

> > done, and only 5 to go - finishing this coming Friday, 11 August.

And I'm

> > taking Arimidex since the surgery, with no problems.

> I remember you saying before that it quite some time to shrink the

> tumor. What kind was it? ER/PR + or what? I went for a second

> opinion this week and the doc said that chemo probably would NOT shrink

> an ER/PR + tumor (what I have).

> -Frances

>

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>

[Guest guest]

In the April issue of JAMA, there is a study that determined that

chemo is more effetive in estrogen negative women if they are node

positive. Here is the link

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/295/14/1658

Ruth

>

> Quoting Margery Allcock :

>

> >

> > No, it isn't always 8. Starting in June 2005, I had 4 of Caelyx and

> > cyclophosphamide over 3 months; then 4 of Taxol over 3 months; then 5

> > (double doses) of Navelbine with Neulasta, over 5 months. Took 11

months

> > altogether. And that was all to shrink the lump from 10cm down to

2.75cm

> > before surgery on May 8, 2006. Now I'm having radiotherapy - 20

treatments

> > done, and only 5 to go - finishing this coming Friday, 11 August.

And I'm

> > taking Arimidex since the surgery, with no problems.

> I remember you saying before that it quite some time to shrink the

> tumor. What kind was it? ER/PR + or what? I went for a second

> opinion this week and the doc said that chemo probably would NOT shrink

> an ER/PR + tumor (what I have).

> -Frances

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Ruth,

I believe the article was saying chemo is more effective for er negative

women vs. er positive women. All the women in the study were node

positive. This was not a study of node positive vs. node negative women.

-

[Guest guest]

Hi Ruth,

I believe the article was saying chemo is more effective for er negative

women vs. er positive women. All the women in the study were node

positive. This was not a study of node positive vs. node negative women.

-

[Guest guest]

Hi Ruth,

I believe the article was saying chemo is more effective for er negative

women vs. er positive women. All the women in the study were node

positive. This was not a study of node positive vs. node negative women.

-

[Guest guest]

You are absolutely right!

Ruth

>

> Hi Ruth,

>

> I believe the article was saying chemo is more effective for er

negative

> women vs. er positive women. All the women in the study were node

> positive. This was not a study of node positive vs. node negative women.

>

> -

>