Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 In a message dated 8/10/2004 10:56:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, garyland@... writes: > Also, he said to cut back on the DHEA if I get Acne or > agressive...what's up with that? > That can be a side effect. there is another kind of DHEA...7-Keto....that eliminates these possible side effects. It's more expensive usually. regular DHEA can also increase facial hair...so that's why I use the 7-Keto kind. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 In a message dated 8/10/2004 11:33:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, garyland@... writes: > Will I find that at a regular health food store? > Probably - the brand I have is GNC. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Hi Cindi, Will I find that at a regular health food store? > In a message dated 8/10/2004 10:56:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, > garyland@y... writes: > > > Also, he said to cut back on the DHEA if I get Acne or > > agressive...what's up with that? > > > > That can be a side effect. there is another kind of DHEA...7- Keto....that > eliminates these possible side effects. It's more expensive usually. regular > DHEA can also increase facial hair...so that's why I use the 7-Keto kind. > Cindi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Probably based on the idea of creating more testosterone. Re: DHEA > Dr. Woliner said to take between 25mgs and 100mgs a day. He said I > should be able to tolerate the 1grain of Armour with that. Do you > think I should take the DHEA for a few days first just to make sure? > Also, he said to cut back on the DHEA if I get Acne or > agressive...what's up with that? > > Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Probably based on the idea of creating more testosterone. Re: DHEA > Dr. Woliner said to take between 25mgs and 100mgs a day. He said I > should be able to tolerate the 1grain of Armour with that. Do you > think I should take the DHEA for a few days first just to make sure? > Also, he said to cut back on the DHEA if I get Acne or > agressive...what's up with that? > > Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 , you do not have any ovaries, right? Roxanna V. Knight-Plouff, D.V.M. W Plouff North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc northstargsdr@... www.northstargsdr.org Re: DHEA Well speaking from personal experience (I have taken 50 MG DHEA for over 4 years every day) I have to say it is one supplement I will not ever be without again. I do get acne once in a while when it happens I cut the dosage for about a week in half. It goes away. I have had no excess hair, in fact I don;t even have to shave my legs anymore sue to thyroid hair loss that has never returned since my crash 5 years ago. I fell the difference if I do not take this supplement. I fell it in more tired and less stamina and shortness of breath. There is a good book out about DHEA, I read it back when I first started taking it but can;t remember the name.. Do a search on Amazon.com and I am sure you will find it, something like DHEA breakthrough. It is NOT hype. Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 , you do not have any ovaries, right? Roxanna V. Knight-Plouff, D.V.M. W Plouff North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc northstargsdr@... www.northstargsdr.org Re: DHEA Well speaking from personal experience (I have taken 50 MG DHEA for over 4 years every day) I have to say it is one supplement I will not ever be without again. I do get acne once in a while when it happens I cut the dosage for about a week in half. It goes away. I have had no excess hair, in fact I don;t even have to shave my legs anymore sue to thyroid hair loss that has never returned since my crash 5 years ago. I fell the difference if I do not take this supplement. I fell it in more tired and less stamina and shortness of breath. There is a good book out about DHEA, I read it back when I first started taking it but can;t remember the name.. Do a search on Amazon.com and I am sure you will find it, something like DHEA breakthrough. It is NOT hype. Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 >>, you do not have any ovaries, right? << Nope, nuttin left at all to cause me problems! None of them, no men either! LOL Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 I sure had my share of bad men. :-( Have a honey now! I was inquiring because of the higher DHEA supplement and wondering if it might be helping with giving you some estrogen. Roxanna Roxanna V. Knight-Plouff, D.V.M. W Plouff North Star German Shepherd Dog Rescue Inc northstargsdr@... www.northstargsdr.org Re: DHEA >>, you do not have any ovaries, right? << Nope, nuttin left at all to cause me problems! None of them, no men either! LOL Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 These are my sentiments exactly, Jamy. I know that some things can be experimented with, and I suspect the adrenal exhaustion in myself, but there are too many substances that can be out of kilter there, from person to person, all different. This is why I have back burnered this, because I'm going to need the money first FOR the testing, yet I'm not going to just take cortisone blind, even though I suspect this. I've been self treating with my thyroid, but that wasn't until I had scrutinized this from all angles, tested, taken that into consideration, as welll as the way I feel. There are too many variables with both of these things, that are all so different, in each individual. The only exception to this, in my case, would be progesterone, because I tested negative for that all the way back to over 20 yrs ago, and frankly, that may be most of us older chicks anyway. I'm looking for that Progesterone USP at the Walmart everyone's been talking about, and guess what, it's not there. I probably need DHEA, but I'd rather test for it first because, who knows, I might be wrong about that. Re: DHEA > > I have a concern with anyone that takes anything without testing myself. A good example, my estrogen was low, cortisol low normal, progesterone low, testosterone low, yet dhea over midway. Very weird. I know several people that felt worse taking dhea than not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 You happened to have guessed right (based on logic also I'm sure and figuring it all out), and DHEA does have amazing benefits, but there are many of us who might not guess right here. There are too many variables on this. I'm beginning to be for the pregnenolone myself, though I have not tried this yet. Re: DHEA > Well speaking from personal experience (I have taken 50 MG DHEA for over 4 years every day) I have to say it is one supplement I will not ever be without again. I do get acne once in a while when it happens I cut the dosage for about a week in half. It goes away. I have had no excess hair, in fact I don;t even have to shave my legs anymore sue to thyroid hair loss that has never returned since my crash 5 years ago. I fell the difference if I do not take this supplement. I fell it in more tired and less stamina and shortness of breath. There is a good book out about DHEA, I read it back when I first started taking it but can;t remember the name.. Do a search on Amazon.com and I am sure you will find it, something like DHEA breakthrough. It is NOT hype. > > Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 > Does anyone know if you have to wean yourself off DHEA like > Hydrocort. or not? > > Thanks, > no I have never heard you need to wean off, ..just stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 I disagree -- I think DHEA is very powerful stuff, and most people take way too much. I had my DHEA levels tested a few years ago, took 10 mg. a day, then just 5. I tried to take 25 mg. but.... it made me feel weird, among other things. I've since switched to 7-keto, a naturally occuring metabolite of DHEA that, unlike DHEA, cannot be converted to active androgens (testosterone) and estrogens, but still has the same benefits. Just my 2 cents. > > Does anyone know if you have to wean yourself off DHEA like > > Hydrocort. or not? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > no I have never heard you need to wean off, ..just stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 > I disagree -- I think DHEA is very powerful stuff, and most people > take way too much. > > I had my DHEA levels tested a few years ago, took 10 mg. a day, then > just 5. I tried to take 25 mg. but.... it made me feel weird, among > other things. > > I've since switched to 7-keto, a naturally occuring metabolite of > DHEA that, unlike DHEA, cannot be converted to active androgens > (testosterone) and estrogens, but still has the same benefits. > > Just my 2 cents. > You disagree that it can be stopped from one day to the next, but must instead be tapered? I have never heard it cannot just be stopped. I was prescribed 50 mg DHEA to get rid of my rheumatoid arthritis, along with a low dose of minocycline - I guess this was before they actually came out and said it was due to mycolplasms, but it did get rid of it totally - anyway...after about 9 months on the 50 mg, the girl at the holistic MD's pharmacy, who used to fill the prescriptions (it was by Rx only back then) mentioned 50 mg was a very high dose for a woman - so I went down to 25 mg. About a month later, the doctor asked if I was still on the 50mg. I said no and told him why...he asked " how is the arthritis in the knees and ankles? " ..I said " for some reason, it has been hurting a lot again and causing me stiffness and problems doing stairs " ...he said to go back up to the 50mg and stay there and that he would also instruct the girl at the pharmacy not to inject her opinion - although she was very knowledgable - when he has prescribed a certain amount for someone. He did mention that i had a dramtic and very good response to DHEA - it's not for eveyone certainly - and is also used differently by people. so no - it's nothing to take lightly, but it does have its uses. After almost 9 years at 50mg, I began to get oily skin on my face and cut my dose down to 10 mg daily for about 6 months without a problem, but when I stopped completely, my joints ached slightly and my facial skin got very dry for the first time in my life - the rheumatoid is gone, though - sed rate normal and RA factor no longer present...now I am at 10 mg of 7- Keto for the last couple of monnths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 It's only my opinion -- I'm sure other people might disagree. That's amazing what DHEA has done for you! I guess I didn't make myself completely clear -- I think people often take too much DHEA, and should err on the conservative side, as it does have drug-like effects. BUT -- I also know some people do need (and have remarkable results) with higher doses. The lowest dose of keto-7 I've been able to find is 25 mg. > > I disagree -- I think DHEA is very powerful stuff, and most people > > take way too much. > > > > I had my DHEA levels tested a few years ago, took 10 mg. a day, > then > > just 5. I tried to take 25 mg. but.... it made me feel weird, among > > other things. > > > > I've since switched to 7-keto, a naturally occuring metabolite of > > DHEA that, unlike DHEA, cannot be converted to active androgens > > (testosterone) and estrogens, but still has the same benefits. > > > > Just my 2 cents. > > > > > You disagree that it can be stopped from one day to the next, but > must instead be tapered? I have never heard it cannot just be > stopped. > I was prescribed 50 mg DHEA to get rid of my rheumatoid arthritis, > along with a low dose of minocycline - I guess this was before they > actually came out and said it was due to mycolplasms, but it did get > rid of it totally - anyway...after about 9 months on the 50 mg, the > girl at the holistic MD's pharmacy, who used to fill the > prescriptions (it was by Rx only back then) mentioned 50 mg was a > very high dose for a woman - so I went down to 25 mg. About a month > later, the doctor asked if I was still on the 50mg. I said no and > told him why...he asked " how is the arthritis in the knees and > ankles? " ..I said " for some reason, it has been hurting a lot again > and causing me stiffness and problems doing stairs " ...he said to go > back up to the 50mg and stay there and that he would also instruct > the girl at the pharmacy not to inject her opinion - although she was > very knowledgable - when he has prescribed a certain amount for > someone. He did mention that i had a dramtic and very good response > to DHEA - it's not for eveyone certainly - and is also used > differently by people. so no - it's nothing to take lightly, but it > does have its uses. After almost 9 years at 50mg, I began to get > oily skin on my face and cut my dose down to 10 mg daily for about 6 > months without a problem, but when I stopped completely, my joints > ached slightly and my facial skin got very dry for the first time in > my life - the rheumatoid is gone, though - sed rate normal and RA > factor no longer present...now I am at 10 mg of 7- Keto for the last > couple of monnths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Well I think getting a test is a good idea. I have taken 25-50 mg per day for 8 years. My blood test last week STILL showed I was deficient. It definitely makes a difference in my leg strength. My doc said the 7 keto will help the adrenals, but since it won't convert to testosterone you will not receive those benefits if you need them. I have just added testosterone this week, and it is making a huge difference, more than the DHEA. I think the tests are important, to see what you need. We all probably need something after a certain age. nne _____ From: Lise Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 3:22 PM To: NaturalThyroidHormones Subject: Re: DHEA I disagree -- I think DHEA is very powerful stuff, and most people take way too much. I had my DHEA levels tested a few years ago, took 10 mg. a day, then just 5. I tried to take 25 mg. but.... it made me feel weird, among other things. I've since switched to 7-keto, a naturally occuring metabolite of DHEA that, unlike DHEA, cannot be converted to active androgens (testosterone) and estrogens, but still has the same benefits. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Well I think getting a test is a good idea. I have taken 25-50 mg per day for 8 years. My blood test last week STILL showed I was deficient. It definitely makes a difference in my leg strength. My doc said the 7 keto will help the adrenals, but since it won't convert to testosterone you will not receive those benefits if you need them. I have just added testosterone this week, and it is making a huge difference, more than the DHEA. I think the tests are important, to see what you need. We all probably need something after a certain age. nne _____ From: Lise Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 3:22 PM To: NaturalThyroidHormones Subject: Re: DHEA I disagree -- I think DHEA is very powerful stuff, and most people take way too much. I had my DHEA levels tested a few years ago, took 10 mg. a day, then just 5. I tried to take 25 mg. but.... it made me feel weird, among other things. I've since switched to 7-keto, a naturally occuring metabolite of DHEA that, unlike DHEA, cannot be converted to active androgens (testosterone) and estrogens, but still has the same benefits. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 I am having trouble posting. I am post meno and have not had a period for 5 years. A few weeks back I did have one and the only thing I have been doing differently is taking 25 mg of DHEA. From what I have been reading this could cause bleeding. My gyno now wants to do a uterine biopsy. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 HI , did you see the post I sent you about that? it's back a few, but I'd certainly think it's the DHEA and go off of it and see if things normalize before I'd go further. (and give yourself some washout time) My bet is it is the DHEA. Dee~ .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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