Oh No !!

[Guest guest]

Just went for my annual checkup ultrasound for my 2 known fibroids

(1 x 3.5 cm, 1 x 5.5 cm).

Well .... they now see only one ... which is now 9 cm (that is 3.6

inches) ... that's about as big as an orange ... this is getting

big ... think about having an orange inside your belly ... I'm now

getting worried ... The bigger one double in size in 1 year, and the

smaller one they don't see anymore ... :-(

I'm having an appointment with my doctor in 2 weeks and we'll see

what needs to be done, if we decide to do something. My doc is realy

pro-lets wait and see (and me too).

I thought i would get away with any further treatment, but maybe

not ...

[Guest guest]

If it makes you feel any better my has been through both growth spurts and

maintaining itself. In the fruit category mine is at least a grapefruit! It

is a strange feeling and thought. My doc monitored the fibroid more

regularly during the growth period, 2 months, and then 6 month ultrasounds

in stable times.

[Guest guest]

Dear Chatou7--I had a friend with a basketball-sized tumor and she didn't

even know it was there although she did wonder why she looked sort of

pregnant. I have several fibroids, the largest is 8cm, and my doc said my

uterus is about the size of a 3-month pregnancy. I've had fibroids for at

least 10 years, had one removed that was causing me excruciating pain

(hysteroscopically), monitor them, occasionally check for endometrial

cancer, trying to deal with the symptoms right now via diet changes and

other alternative treatments. Heavy bleeding is an issue but manageable,

chronic constipation an issue but manageable. Not crazy about looking 3

months pregnant, but right now that's better (for me) than surgery.

Unless you have cancer or your symptoms are ruining your ability to

function, you have time to watch them and research your options. I'm

reading Warshowsky's book " Healing Fibroids Naturally " --very interesting.

Maybe I'm chicken-shit scared of surgery or maybe it's intuition, but more

and more I am convinced that EVERYTHING affects hormones and hormones affect

everything--in other words, I can intervene in my own health by what I eat

(and don't eat), what I think/feel, etc.

I am NOT suggesting that this is a superior way to deal with fibroids. I

don't even know if it works! My symptoms are not life-threatening or

life-destroying so I have the luxury of experimenting. My background is

psychotherapy so I tend to believe that what we think/feel has enormous

impact on our physical health. I especially find the recent placebo studies

noteworthy--they further suggest that when we believe we will be helped,

something in our brains sets up self-healing processes.

On a more psychological note, I have never had children and have had to

process alot of grief around that. It has been difficult and episodic, in

other words, comes in fits and starts. I have recently forced myself to

grieve more actively so that I can make peace with my uterus/self and I am

very curious to see if this has an impact on my fibroids.

I hope some of this is useful to you and/or others. Above all I want to say

to you not to freak out!!! You will help yourself so much more if you can

stay calm while you investigate how you want to handle your fibroids.

Good luck.

Faryl

[Guest guest]

Dear Chatou7--I had a friend with a basketball-sized tumor and she didn't

even know it was there although she did wonder why she looked sort of

pregnant. I have several fibroids, the largest is 8cm, and my doc said my

uterus is about the size of a 3-month pregnancy. I've had fibroids for at

least 10 years, had one removed that was causing me excruciating pain

(hysteroscopically), monitor them, occasionally check for endometrial

cancer, trying to deal with the symptoms right now via diet changes and

other alternative treatments. Heavy bleeding is an issue but manageable,

chronic constipation an issue but manageable. Not crazy about looking 3

months pregnant, but right now that's better (for me) than surgery.

Unless you have cancer or your symptoms are ruining your ability to

function, you have time to watch them and research your options. I'm

reading Warshowsky's book " Healing Fibroids Naturally " --very interesting.

Maybe I'm chicken-shit scared of surgery or maybe it's intuition, but more

and more I am convinced that EVERYTHING affects hormones and hormones affect

everything--in other words, I can intervene in my own health by what I eat

(and don't eat), what I think/feel, etc.

I am NOT suggesting that this is a superior way to deal with fibroids. I

don't even know if it works! My symptoms are not life-threatening or

life-destroying so I have the luxury of experimenting. My background is

psychotherapy so I tend to believe that what we think/feel has enormous

impact on our physical health. I especially find the recent placebo studies

noteworthy--they further suggest that when we believe we will be helped,

something in our brains sets up self-healing processes.

On a more psychological note, I have never had children and have had to

process alot of grief around that. It has been difficult and episodic, in

other words, comes in fits and starts. I have recently forced myself to

grieve more actively so that I can make peace with my uterus/self and I am

very curious to see if this has an impact on my fibroids.

I hope some of this is useful to you and/or others. Above all I want to say

to you not to freak out!!! You will help yourself so much more if you can

stay calm while you investigate how you want to handle your fibroids.

Good luck.

Faryl

[Guest guest]

Dear Chatou7--I had a friend with a basketball-sized tumor and she didn't

even know it was there although she did wonder why she looked sort of

pregnant. I have several fibroids, the largest is 8cm, and my doc said my

uterus is about the size of a 3-month pregnancy. I've had fibroids for at

least 10 years, had one removed that was causing me excruciating pain

(hysteroscopically), monitor them, occasionally check for endometrial

cancer, trying to deal with the symptoms right now via diet changes and

other alternative treatments. Heavy bleeding is an issue but manageable,

chronic constipation an issue but manageable. Not crazy about looking 3

months pregnant, but right now that's better (for me) than surgery.

Unless you have cancer or your symptoms are ruining your ability to

function, you have time to watch them and research your options. I'm

reading Warshowsky's book " Healing Fibroids Naturally " --very interesting.

Maybe I'm chicken-shit scared of surgery or maybe it's intuition, but more

and more I am convinced that EVERYTHING affects hormones and hormones affect

everything--in other words, I can intervene in my own health by what I eat

(and don't eat), what I think/feel, etc.

I am NOT suggesting that this is a superior way to deal with fibroids. I

don't even know if it works! My symptoms are not life-threatening or

life-destroying so I have the luxury of experimenting. My background is

psychotherapy so I tend to believe that what we think/feel has enormous

impact on our physical health. I especially find the recent placebo studies

noteworthy--they further suggest that when we believe we will be helped,

something in our brains sets up self-healing processes.

On a more psychological note, I have never had children and have had to

process alot of grief around that. It has been difficult and episodic, in

other words, comes in fits and starts. I have recently forced myself to

grieve more actively so that I can make peace with my uterus/self and I am

very curious to see if this has an impact on my fibroids.

I hope some of this is useful to you and/or others. Above all I want to say

to you not to freak out!!! You will help yourself so much more if you can

stay calm while you investigate how you want to handle your fibroids.

Good luck.

Faryl

[Guest guest]

Thanks a whole lot Faryl ! your comments are much appreciated. I

kinda do beleive in what you say too. I have'nt been the happiest

person in the past 2 years, and wondered if it had anything to do

with it.

But, changing what's wrong with my life because it might have

something to do with my fibroids is not a good idea (for now anyway).

I guess I'll have to learn to relax ...

[Guest guest]

Thanks a whole lot Faryl ! your comments are much appreciated. I

kinda do beleive in what you say too. I have'nt been the happiest

person in the past 2 years, and wondered if it had anything to do

with it.

But, changing what's wrong with my life because it might have

something to do with my fibroids is not a good idea (for now anyway).

I guess I'll have to learn to relax ...

[Guest guest]

> Just went for my annual checkup ultrasound for my 2 known fibroids

> (1 x 3.5 cm, 1 x 5.5 cm).

>

> Well .... they now see only one ... which is now 9 cm (that is 3.6

> inches) ... that's about as big as an orange ... this is getting

> big ... think about having an orange inside your belly ... I'm now

> getting worried ... The bigger one double in size in 1 year, and

the

> smaller one they don't see anymore ... :-(

>

> I'm having an appointment with my doctor in 2 weeks and we'll see

> what needs to be done, if we decide to do something. My doc is

realy

> pro-lets wait and see (and me too).

>

> I thought i would get away with any further treatment, but maybe

> not ...

Hello there, I'd like to contribute to the fruit bowl with my

cantaloupe melon. I'm 50 and have had fibroids for 6 years. After my

last US, about a month ago, I was told that I now have 5 fibroids,

and an ovarian cyst. The largest fibroid is 15.7x14.4x10.8cm. I look

about 5 months pregnant but I have no symptoms, no bladder problems,

heavy bleeding or even abodominal pressure. I freaked out after the

last results and thought I had to decide on treatment options, either

myomectomy, UAE or hystorectomy. I was on the net for days, reading

past postings on various fibroid sites and researching my options.

But I just can't take it further yet because of my general good

health, I feel really fit and have no pain whatsoever, my periods are

right on time, thanks to the use of Wild Yam cream which contains

natural progesterone to balance over production of oestrogen. The

hardest thing for me to deal with is other people telling me to just

get a hysterectomy, this includes my GP and Gyno, even a female

doctor at a local Women's Health Centre here in Australia. Some of my

friends get angry with me for not taking their advice but I just

can't do it, not out of fear of major surgery alone, but why would I

do this to myself while I feel so healthy? I am now investigating the

risks I'm taking if I keep carrying these 'babies' and looking into

taking high oral doses of natural progesterone to try and shrink the

fibroids. Keep us informed about your process. Margo

[Guest guest]

> ......

> I especially find the recent

placebo studies

> noteworthy--they further suggest that when we believe we will be

helped,

> something in our brains sets up self-healing processes.

>

> On a more psychological note, I have never had children and have

had to

> process alot of grief around that. It has been difficult and

episodic, in

> other words, comes in fits and starts. I have recently forced

myself to

> grieve more actively so that I can make peace with my uterus/self

and I am

> very curious to see if this has an impact on my fibroids.

>

> Faryl

Dear Faryl, I read this posting with a lot of interest. I am also

looking into the more spiritual meaning of having fibroids. I never

had babies, maybe there's an unresolved issue for me there, but I'm

also looking at my stiffled creativity and what I need to give birth

too. I'm writing a book to express some of my creativity, something

I've been wanting to do for a long time. I also noticed with this war

in Iraq that it effected my feelings in my belly. There are theories

that exposure to violence on TV and our responses to it can cause

toxins in our bodies and yes, when I freaked out about the results of

my latest US, it made me feel sick and very scared of what's

happening in my belly. Then I decided to take control and only do

good things for myself. I had to switch off from watching the

progress of the war, stop panicking about my fibroids and get earthy.

I dived into my garden and planted lots of colourful flowers and it

made me relax and feel 100% better. I also take high doses of vitamin

B complex, B6, C1000 and flaxseedoil capsules as well as keeping up

using Wild Yam cream twice a day and a new Wild Yam therapeutic

deodorant. I have also started using hot castor oil packs at night to

address toxins in my body. I am now looking into taking natural

progesterone orally in high doses to break down over production of

oestrogen, and no, I don't feel hot about looking 5 months pregnant

but I thank the Goddess for not being in pain. I will keep

experimenting and fighting off anyone trying to talk me into having a

hysterectomy, my womb is sacred to me, I don't want to be one of the

4.5 million women globally who let go of this essential part of our

bodies. Thanks for your thoughts. Margo

[Guest guest]

Hi Margo--you sound like you have read " Healing Fibroids Naturally " --you're

doing so many of the things Warshowsky discusses. If I had no symptoms from

fibroids (other than a big belly) and felt in good health, I, too, would

avoid invasive interventions. I will be very interested in your progress.

Also, though who knows if expressing your creativity will shrink your

fibroids, I would think that just feeling more of your self has to be good

for overall health, esteem, satisfaction and let's not forget joy. Good

luck with your writing. I also am very, very selective about news toxicity

because I know that I am supersensitive and can go down fast from just

seeing a photo on the front page that upsets me.

Thanks for writing. Hope to hear more from you as your self-healing

continues.

Faryl

[Guest guest]

hey guys...I will mail you my kids. you can keep them. they are two teenage

boys. I am processing

grief daily because I have kids. ;-)! Seriously.

One has black hair with red streaks; the other looks like a younger Pual

McCartney and he has red

hair and a mouth....very bright and annoying. They are for free. Think about it.

gg

margo van der voort wrote:

>

> > ......

> > I especially find the recent

> placebo studies

> > noteworthy--they further suggest that when we believe we will be

> helped,

> > something in our brains sets up self-healing processes.

> >

> > On a more psychological note, I have never had children and have

> had to

> > process alot of grief around that. It has been difficult and

> episodic, in

> > other words, comes in fits and starts. I have recently forced

> myself to

> > grieve more actively so that I can make peace with my uterus/self

> and I am

> > very curious to see if this has an impact on my fibroids.

> >

> > Faryl

>

> Dear Faryl, I read this posting with a lot of interest. I am also

> looking into the more spiritual meaning of having fibroids. I never

> had babies, maybe there's an unresolved issue for me there, but I'm

> also looking at my stiffled creativity and what I need to give birth

> too. I'm writing a book to express some of my creativity, something

> I've been wanting to do for a long time. I also noticed with this war

> in Iraq that it effected my feelings in my belly. There are theories

> that exposure to violence on TV and our responses to it can cause

> toxins in our bodies and yes, when I freaked out about the results of

> my latest US, it made me feel sick and very scared of what's

> happening in my belly. Then I decided to take control and only do

> good things for myself. I had to switch off from watching the

> progress of the war, stop panicking about my fibroids and get earthy.

> I dived into my garden and planted lots of colourful flowers and it

> made me relax and feel 100% better. I also take high doses of vitamin

> B complex, B6, C1000 and flaxseedoil capsules as well as keeping up

> using Wild Yam cream twice a day and a new Wild Yam therapeutic

> deodorant. I have also started using hot castor oil packs at night to

> address toxins in my body. I am now looking into taking natural

> progesterone orally in high doses to break down over production of

> oestrogen, and no, I don't feel hot about looking 5 months pregnant

> but I thank the Goddess for not being in pain. I will keep

> experimenting and fighting off anyone trying to talk me into having a

> hysterectomy, my womb is sacred to me, I don't want to be one of the

> 4.5 million women globally who let go of this essential part of our

> bodies. Thanks for your thoughts. Margo

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Geraldine Schaumburg <gschaumburg@e...> wrote:

> hey guys...I will mail you my kids. you can keep them. they are two

teenage boys. I am processing

> grief daily because I have kids. ;-)! Seriously.

> One has black hair with red streaks; the other looks like a younger

Pual McCartney and he has red

> hair and a mouth....very bright and annoying. They are for free.

Think about it. gg

Thanks but no thanks! Margo

[Guest guest]

GG,

No thanks. I have 2 teenage boys myself. One of which is a hippie! Can't

believe it. His father and I weren't. Sometimes I don't think we'll get

through this. I also have a teenage girl who is so totally different. She

just got a scholarship for college and we are so proud. I just think of my

mom when things get difficult. She had 8 kids and she is still standing!

W.

[Guest guest]

GG,

No thanks. I have 2 teenage boys myself. One of which is a hippie! Can't

believe it. His father and I weren't. Sometimes I don't think we'll get

through this. I also have a teenage girl who is so totally different. She

just got a scholarship for college and we are so proud. I just think of my

mom when things get difficult. She had 8 kids and she is still standing!

W.

[Guest guest]

GG,

Let me know about Tasmania. I'd love to send my 19 yr old son. I'd even pay

the extra shipping cost. LOL Still working on the 14 yr old though. There

is hope.

W.

[Guest guest]

Hey GG--I've already had teenage stepsons, so I hear ya. Unfortunately, I

acquired my stepkids at (their) ages 9, 14 and 16, pretty rough years, well

past the adorable/bonding/cooing years. When things get rough with your

totally obnoxious teens, at least you can remember how sweet and adorable

they were when they were younger. My husband and I actually were on

" countdown " for a year, waiting for the most hostile of the kids to go away

to college. And guess who he had the most hostility for??? Yes, his bad

ol' mean ol' stepmom. One day your horrifying teens will turn into lovely

young men...

Faryl

[Guest guest]

GG,

They sound like sweet dreams to me! You'd never part with them. Stop teasing!

LOL

Geraldine Schaumburg wrote:hey guys...I will mail

you my kids. you can keep them. they are two teenage boys. I am processing

grief daily because I have kids. ;-)! Seriously.

One has black hair with red streaks; the other looks like a younger Pual

McCartney and he has red

hair and a mouth....very bright and annoying. They are for free. Think about it.

gg

[Guest guest]

GG,

They sound like sweet dreams to me! You'd never part with them. Stop teasing!

LOL

Geraldine Schaumburg wrote:hey guys...I will mail

you my kids. you can keep them. they are two teenage boys. I am processing

grief daily because I have kids. ;-)! Seriously.

One has black hair with red streaks; the other looks like a younger Pual

McCartney and he has red

hair and a mouth....very bright and annoying. They are for free. Think about it.

gg

[Guest guest]

gals....I am not teasing! ;-)!

I have already sent feelers to Tasmania where I figure I could air drop them in

the outback. I did my research and they have the most poisonous plants and

animals and reptiles on the planet. Right now in Tasmania though, it is the end

of the day light savings time. So I will have to wait for the next season

to put my plan of liberation into action! (Alot of the poisinous things start

to hibernate when the days get shorter).

kukalaka wrote:

> GG,

>

> They sound like sweet dreams to me! You'd never part with them. Stop teasing!

LOL

>

>

> Geraldine Schaumburg wrote:hey guys...I will mail

you my kids. you can keep them. they are two teenage boys. I am processing

> grief daily because I have kids. ;-)! Seriously.

> One has black hair with red streaks; the other looks like a younger Pual

McCartney and he has red

> hair and a mouth....very bright and annoying. They are for free. Think about

it. gg

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

ahhhh....a ray of hope. thank you!

Yes, you inherited through the tough years.

shudder.

You deserve a medal of course.

I was likened to Ghenghis Kan the other day.

I sort of took it as a compliment!

;-)! gg

farylpaul wrote:

> Hey GG--I've already had teenage stepsons, so I hear ya. Unfortunately, I

> acquired my stepkids at (their) ages 9, 14 and 16, pretty rough years, well

> past the adorable/bonding/cooing years. When things get rough with your

> totally obnoxious teens, at least you can remember how sweet and adorable

> they were when they were younger. My husband and I actually were on

> " countdown " for a year, waiting for the most hostile of the kids to go away

> to college. And guess who he had the most hostility for??? Yes, his bad

> ol' mean ol' stepmom. One day your horrifying teens will turn into lovely

> young men...

>

> Faryl

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

oh my god...your mom needs to be canonized now!

hahaha. a hippie!

Perfect!

My son's current aspiration is to make a living being an editor at High

Times magazine!

He's good writer....but...hahaha. My younger son informed me that eight girls

came up to him at

school and said they wanted to " cuddle with him " . SHREIK!!!!

I just want to wake up in another household...or, run away from home.

The Dominican Republic looks pretty good....ok will stop this and stay on topic

now..sorry Carla..had

to vent...was this way before my hysteroscopic resection that worked...thank

god!

peace.

gg.

Just2left@... wrote:

> GG,

>

> No thanks. I have 2 teenage boys myself. One of which is a hippie! Can't

> believe it. His father and I weren't. Sometimes I don't think we'll get

> through this. I also have a teenage girl who is so totally different. She

> just got a scholarship for college and we are so proud. I just think of my

> mom when things get difficult. She had 8 kids and she is still standing!

>

> W.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

prob could ship him with a little extra food and water and extra air holes at a

discounted rate. Why

waste money? ;-)! gg

Just2left@... wrote:

> GG,

>

> Let me know about Tasmania. I'd love to send my 19 yr old son. I'd even pay

> the extra shipping cost. LOL Still working on the 14 yr old though. There

> is hope.

>

> W.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

gg--Damn straight I deserve a medal! ly, I have dreams of going on

Oprah and saying, " Girls, don't do what I have done. If you meet a man with

teenage kids, keep on walking. " Ghenghis Khan? That's a good one! At

least your kids give you a chuckle! Hang in there. Do they go to college

any time soon?

Faryl

[Guest guest]

Okay sign me up!

LOL

[Guest guest]

From the mouth of someone who has gone through this, I totally agree! I

sent both the fiance and the three kids packing. Actually, I could see how

the kids ended up the way they did. Dad gave them NO discipline or

consequences.

At 4/3/03 06:16 PM, farylpaul wrote:

>gg--Damn straight I deserve a medal! ly, I have dreams of going on

>Oprah and saying, " Girls, don't do what I have done. If you meet a man with

>teenage kids, keep on walking. " Ghenghis Khan? That's a good one! At

>least your kids give you a chuckle! Hang in there. Do they go to college

>any time soon?

>

>Faryl