Re: Why not give Corn Starch w/ sugar? ?s about hypoglycemia and ...

June 14, 2002

In a message dated 6/14/02 11:59:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

rebecpeck@... writes:

<< Brown Rice Syrup >>

I use that to make and 's complex carb snack for bedtime

(usually a rice pudding variation). They like it! I usually use DariFree

(or sometimes rice milk) to substitute for the dairy in the complex carb

recipe.

Dena

June 14, 2002

I use that to make and 's complex carb snack for bedtime

(usually a rice pudding variation).

Hi Dena,

Would you mind sharing your recipe? Thanks.

Maggie

June 14, 2002

I use that to make and 's complex carb snack for bedtime

(usually a rice pudding variation).

Hi Dena,

Would you mind sharing your recipe? Thanks.

Maggie

June 15, 2002

In a message dated 6/14/02 5:36:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

rebecpeck@... writes:

<< I avoid all milk and corn

products. Pediasure has both of these. Interestingly enough, I only

dropped the corn a month ago. Spencer stopped vomiting shortly

thereafter! hmmmm >>

This is interesting, since when looking back at the kiddos' infant medical

records, was thought to be have a milk protein allergy and to be

" allergic " to corn when he was hospitalized for almost a month when he was a

month old. He was put on Nutramigen and breast milk that was free of

corn/dairy products. Then, , my 19 y/o, was put on Nutramigen and then

banked breastmilk at a year old for similar problems. I honestly don't think

it was an " allergy " in the classic sense.

Dena

June 15, 2002

In a message dated 6/14/02 5:36:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

rebecpeck@... writes:

<< I avoid all milk and corn

products. Pediasure has both of these. Interestingly enough, I only

dropped the corn a month ago. Spencer stopped vomiting shortly

thereafter! hmmmm >>

This is interesting, since when looking back at the kiddos' infant medical

records, was thought to be have a milk protein allergy and to be

" allergic " to corn when he was hospitalized for almost a month when he was a

month old. He was put on Nutramigen and breast milk that was free of

corn/dairy products. Then, , my 19 y/o, was put on Nutramigen and then

banked breastmilk at a year old for similar problems. I honestly don't think

it was an " allergy " in the classic sense.

Dena

June 15, 2002

In a message dated 6/14/02 5:57:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

orrmullane@... writes:

<< I use that to make and 's complex carb snack for bedtime

> (usually a rice pudding variation).

Hi Dena,

Would you mind sharing your recipe? Thanks.

Maggie

>>

LOL...I'm one of those " a bit of this " and " a bit of that " cooks, depending

on what's in the house. But, this is what I start with:

I slowly heat rice milk, Rice Dream (or usually a combo of both). Then I add

raw rice, (sometimes will add different kinds of rice), brown rice syrup,

cinnamon, a bit of vanilla, and cook slowly, adding more rice milk and/or

rice dream (and maybe a bit of regular sugar or honey) until the rice is

soft/most of the liquid is absorbed. My boys like it a bit " liquidy " so I

add more " milk " as needed. It can either be eaten warm or cold. Raisins can

be added if desired, although mine don't like it that way.

Now when we have left over cooked rice (we always make a big batch in our

rice cooker), I'll just take the cooked rice, add rice milk and DariFree,

sweetener, cinnamon and vanilla and heat it at 50% power in the microwave.

That works for a quick bedtime or pre-sports snack.

This does not incorporate cornstarch, since my kiddos seem to do okay with

the combo of rice milk and darifree (full of carbs) and the rice (and very

little sweetener added, but lots of cinnamon/vanilla). If you need to add

uncooked cornstarch, you want to be sure and do it after the rice pudding is

cooled off some, so it doesn't " cook " the cornstarch.

Dena

June 15, 2002

Dena

My younger son (now 28) had to be on Nutramigen until age 2.5 and also

couldn't have gluten, citrus, milk, eggs or nuts. He had terrible digestive

problems and this worked. I have always wondered about this. He was

diagnosed with celiac disease because of the high fat content in his stool

and then years later the diagnosis was dropped. I am thinking it might have

been the mito all along.

laurie

> From: waislandgirl@...

> Reply-To: Mito

> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 22:45:23 EDT

> To: Mito

> Subject: Re: Re: Why not give Corn Starch w/ sugar? ?s about

> hypoglycemia and ...

>

> In a message dated 6/14/02 5:36:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> rebecpeck@... writes:

>

> << I avoid all milk and corn

> products. Pediasure has both of these. Interestingly enough, I only

> dropped the corn a month ago. Spencer stopped vomiting shortly

> thereafter! hmmmm >>

>

> This is interesting, since when looking back at the kiddos' infant medical

> records, was thought to be have a milk protein allergy and to be

> " allergic " to corn when he was hospitalized for almost a month when he was a

> month old. He was put on Nutramigen and breast milk that was free of

> corn/dairy products. Then, , my 19 y/o, was put on Nutramigen and then

> banked breastmilk at a year old for similar problems. I honestly don't think

> it was an " allergy " in the classic sense.

>

> Dena

>

> Please contact mito-owner with any problems or questions.

>

June 15, 2002

Dena

My younger son (now 28) had to be on Nutramigen until age 2.5 and also

couldn't have gluten, citrus, milk, eggs or nuts. He had terrible digestive

problems and this worked. I have always wondered about this. He was

diagnosed with celiac disease because of the high fat content in his stool

and then years later the diagnosis was dropped. I am thinking it might have

been the mito all along.

laurie

> From: waislandgirl@...

> Reply-To: Mito

> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 22:45:23 EDT

> To: Mito

> Subject: Re: Re: Why not give Corn Starch w/ sugar? ?s about

> hypoglycemia and ...

>

> In a message dated 6/14/02 5:36:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> rebecpeck@... writes:

>

> << I avoid all milk and corn

> products. Pediasure has both of these. Interestingly enough, I only

> dropped the corn a month ago. Spencer stopped vomiting shortly

> thereafter! hmmmm >>

>

> This is interesting, since when looking back at the kiddos' infant medical

> records, was thought to be have a milk protein allergy and to be

> " allergic " to corn when he was hospitalized for almost a month when he was a

> month old. He was put on Nutramigen and breast milk that was free of

> corn/dairy products. Then, , my 19 y/o, was put on Nutramigen and then

> banked breastmilk at a year old for similar problems. I honestly don't think

> it was an " allergy " in the classic sense.

>

> Dena

>

> Please contact mito-owner with any problems or questions.

>

June 15, 2002

Thanks, sounds yummy for Trevor and me!! Too much texture for Spenc

at this point, but give him about 6 months at the rate he is going...

The only sweetner in Spencer formula is Brown Rice Syrup. I have

been putting his tapioca flour in that. He slurps it right down.

May have to make me some for mornings where I am feeling sluggish.

Bec

June 15, 2002

Thanks, sounds yummy for Trevor and me!! Too much texture for Spenc

at this point, but give him about 6 months at the rate he is going...

The only sweetner in Spencer formula is Brown Rice Syrup. I have

been putting his tapioca flour in that. He slurps it right down.

May have to make me some for mornings where I am feeling sluggish.

Bec

June 15, 2002

I am confused ladies...

You say that both Nutramigen and Alimentum are dairy and corn free.

Spencer tried both was on Alimentum for months and vomiting the

entire time. He hated Nutramigen and refused. Both products have

Corn Syrup Solids as the very first ingredient. Alimentum has

hydrolized whey. They " pre-digest " the whey by adding the enzyme to

break it down to its finest element before adding it to the product.

People with milk protein allergies don't have the enzyme to break

down the milk protein.

I am personally SOOO sensitive to milk protein that I would not

tolerate the hydrolized whey at all. The Allergist suggested I try

Soy for Spenc to get away from the milk issue period. Then last

month, we bagged the corn syrup solids, too. I found a formula that

is Soy with Brown Rice Syrup. No fructose or sucrose either. He is

doing so much better since I switched.

The book sounds interesting...

What does it mean to not have " an allergy in the classic sense " ?

Will try not to get defensive here, but this is a bit of touchy

subject with me. I had a hard conversation with an Anesthesiologist

(sp?) about allergies. He insisted I didn't have any allergies bc I

didn't go into Anphalictic Shock. Finally, I told him to forget the

allergy piece. When I am exposed to preservatives in medications, I

get horrible migraine that will last for 4 days. If I avoid the

preservatives, I don't get the migraine. Therefore, it is in my best

interest to avoid the preservatives. He got it. sigh... still

insisting I didn't have an allergy but willing to avoid the

preservatives for me.

So, what do you mean by not having " an allergy in the classic sense " ?

Thanks,

Bec

> > He was put on Nutramigen and breast milk that was free of

> > corn/dairy products. Then, , my 19 y/o, was put on

Nutramigen and

> > then

> > banked breastmilk at a year old for similar problems. I honestly

don't

> > think

> > it was an " allergy " in the classic sense

>

> I was told that Nutramigen did have it...Bliss was on Allimentum

b/c it

> doens't have corn...she had terrible reflux and it only improved

slightly

> with that but she was horribly constipated on every other

formula...we tried

> seven...but I was told it was t he only thing available without

some form of

> corn...I have read it several places too...

>

> bec...you would like thi sbook I have called " is this your

child'...I think

> that is right...it is a great book on figuring out allergies and

such...

>

> deb

June 15, 2002