RE: to dusty- surgery...anithistimines., etc....

[Guest guest]

Not prescription antihistamine. I used OTC Claritin by mouth, and Childrens dye,alcohol and sugar free liquid as a topical until I was sure that I really was benefitting from this. Then I got my doc to compound topical bendryl in a vitamin e base. I used this for several months while I embarked on the voyage of allergen avoidance! My personal care products had done a number on me, not just my vulvar skin but my upper arms, face, chest and neck. My head was sore all the time and had tiny little scabs from where I'd scratch - yet no dandruff! Duh - you'd think I'd have realized that something was causing my head to itch - like the products I was applying right to it for my hair!?

I'm not sorry I investigated the allergy route - it proved very important for me - and was major contributory cause of my vulvar problems.

DUsty

-----Original Message-----From: VulvarDisorders [mailto:VulvarDisorders ] On Behalf Of sarahvanessa17Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:44 PMTo: VulvarDisorders Subject: to dusty- surgery...anithistimines., etc....

I also had the surgery Dusty, and I have more DV, so it wasnt very useful in my case, HOWEVER it did take away most of the entrance pain, before that I couldnt even handle a tampon...It is really good for local, SPECIFIC areas of pain, like in ur case......BUT two things to consider-DV- you dont want to agrivate that.....AND-you have to be put under general anesthesia....I have never heard of someone being concious with a local....its way too painful.......... but if it Really bothers u bad then you should consider it......thanks for the well wishes, and sorry about the spats with hubby,,,,,Im in the same boat it seems like,,,,this really has taken its toll on us....p.s on another note,,,,didnt you get relief from antihistimines as well???Ill be back to the grind with this crap tomorrow Im sure. hopefully metzger will get er done....IM TIRED....

[Guest guest]

I've also been eliminating harsh chemicals and

products from my daily routine and seen GREAT

improvement. My shampoo, conditioner, facial

cleansers, hairspray, toothpaste and contact lens

solution were all doing a number on me.

-

--- Dusty wrote:

> Not prescription antihistamine. I used OTC Claritin

> by mouth, and Childrens

> dye,alcohol and sugar free liquid as a topical until

> I was sure that I

> really was benefitting from this. Then I got my doc

> to compound topical

> bendryl in a vitamin e base. I used this for

> several months while I

> embarked on the voyage of allergen avoidance! My

> personal care products had

> done a number on me, not just my vulvar skin but my

> upper arms, face, chest

> and neck. My head was sore all the time and had

> tiny little scabs from

> where I'd scratch - yet no dandruff! Duh - you'd

> think I'd have realized

> that something was causing my head to itch - like

> the products I was

> applying right to it for my hair!?

>

> I'm not sorry I investigated the allergy route - it

> proved very important

> for me - and was major contributory cause of my

> vulvar problems.

>

> DUsty

>

>

>

> to dusty- surgery...anithistimines.,

> etc....

>

>

>

> I also had the surgery Dusty, and I have more DV, so

> it wasnt very

> useful in my case, HOWEVER it did take away most of

> the entrance

> pain, before that I couldnt even handle a

> tampon...It is really good

> for local, SPECIFIC areas of pain, like in ur

> case......BUT two

> things to consider

>

> -DV- you dont want to agrivate that.....AND

> -you have to be put under general anesthesia....I

> have never heard

> of someone being concious with a local....its way

> too painful....

> ...... but if it Really bothers u bad then you

> should consider

> it......

>

> thanks for the well wishes, and sorry about the

> spats with

> hubby,,,,,Im in the same boat it seems like,,,,this

> really has taken

> its toll on us....

>

> p.s on another note,,,,didnt you get relief from

> antihistimines as

> well???

>

> Ill be back to the grind with this crap tomorrow Im

> sure. hopefully

> metzger will get er done....IM TIRED....

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I've also been eliminating harsh chemicals and

products from my daily routine and seen GREAT

improvement. My shampoo, conditioner, facial

cleansers, hairspray, toothpaste and contact lens

solution were all doing a number on me.

-

--- Dusty wrote:

> Not prescription antihistamine. I used OTC Claritin

> by mouth, and Childrens

> dye,alcohol and sugar free liquid as a topical until

> I was sure that I

> really was benefitting from this. Then I got my doc

> to compound topical

> bendryl in a vitamin e base. I used this for

> several months while I

> embarked on the voyage of allergen avoidance! My

> personal care products had

> done a number on me, not just my vulvar skin but my

> upper arms, face, chest

> and neck. My head was sore all the time and had

> tiny little scabs from

> where I'd scratch - yet no dandruff! Duh - you'd

> think I'd have realized

> that something was causing my head to itch - like

> the products I was

> applying right to it for my hair!?

>

> I'm not sorry I investigated the allergy route - it

> proved very important

> for me - and was major contributory cause of my

> vulvar problems.

>

> DUsty

>

>

>

> to dusty- surgery...anithistimines.,

> etc....

>

>

>

> I also had the surgery Dusty, and I have more DV, so

> it wasnt very

> useful in my case, HOWEVER it did take away most of

> the entrance

> pain, before that I couldnt even handle a

> tampon...It is really good

> for local, SPECIFIC areas of pain, like in ur

> case......BUT two

> things to consider

>

> -DV- you dont want to agrivate that.....AND

> -you have to be put under general anesthesia....I

> have never heard

> of someone being concious with a local....its way

> too painful....

> ...... but if it Really bothers u bad then you

> should consider

> it......

>

> thanks for the well wishes, and sorry about the

> spats with

> hubby,,,,,Im in the same boat it seems like,,,,this

> really has taken

> its toll on us....

>

> p.s on another note,,,,didnt you get relief from

> antihistimines as

> well???

>

> Ill be back to the grind with this crap tomorrow Im

> sure. hopefully

> metzger will get er done....IM TIRED....

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Where did you use it topically? In the vaginal area???

Diane

>

> Not prescription antihistamine. I used OTC Claritin by mouth, and

Childrens

> dye,alcohol and sugar free liquid as a topical until I was sure

that I

> really was benefitting from this. Then I got my doc to compound

topical

> bendryl in a vitamin e base. I used this for several months

while I

> embarked on the voyage of allergen avoidance! My personal care

products had

> done a number on me, not just my vulvar skin but my upper arms,

face, chest

> and neck. My head was sore all the time and had tiny little scabs

from

> where I'd scratch - yet no dandruff! Duh - you'd think I'd have

realized

> that something was causing my head to itch - like the products I

was

> applying right to it for my hair!?

>

> I'm not sorry I investigated the allergy route - it proved very

important

> for me - and was major contributory cause of my vulvar problems.

>

> DUsty

>

>

>

> to dusty- surgery...anithistimines., etc....

>

>

>

> I also had the surgery Dusty, and I have more DV, so it wasnt very

> useful in my case, HOWEVER it did take away most of the entrance

> pain, before that I couldnt even handle a tampon...It is really

good

> for local, SPECIFIC areas of pain, like in ur case......BUT two

> things to consider

>

> -DV- you dont want to agrivate that.....AND

> -you have to be put under general anesthesia....I have never heard

> of someone being concious with a local....its way too painful....

> ...... but if it Really bothers u bad then you should consider

> it......

>

> thanks for the well wishes, and sorry about the spats with

> hubby,,,,,Im in the same boat it seems like,,,,this really has

taken

> its toll on us....

>

> p.s on another note,,,,didnt you get relief from antihistimines as

> well???

>

> Ill be back to the grind with this crap tomorrow Im sure.

hopefully

> metzger will get er done....IM TIRED....

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Where did you use it topically? In the vaginal area???

Diane

>

> Not prescription antihistamine. I used OTC Claritin by mouth, and

Childrens

> dye,alcohol and sugar free liquid as a topical until I was sure

that I

> really was benefitting from this. Then I got my doc to compound

topical

> bendryl in a vitamin e base. I used this for several months

while I

> embarked on the voyage of allergen avoidance! My personal care

products had

> done a number on me, not just my vulvar skin but my upper arms,

face, chest

> and neck. My head was sore all the time and had tiny little scabs

from

> where I'd scratch - yet no dandruff! Duh - you'd think I'd have

realized

> that something was causing my head to itch - like the products I

was

> applying right to it for my hair!?

>

> I'm not sorry I investigated the allergy route - it proved very

important

> for me - and was major contributory cause of my vulvar problems.

>

> DUsty

>

>

>

> to dusty- surgery...anithistimines., etc....

>

>

>

> I also had the surgery Dusty, and I have more DV, so it wasnt very

> useful in my case, HOWEVER it did take away most of the entrance

> pain, before that I couldnt even handle a tampon...It is really

good

> for local, SPECIFIC areas of pain, like in ur case......BUT two

> things to consider

>

> -DV- you dont want to agrivate that.....AND

> -you have to be put under general anesthesia....I have never heard

> of someone being concious with a local....its way too painful....

> ...... but if it Really bothers u bad then you should consider

> it......

>

> thanks for the well wishes, and sorry about the spats with

> hubby,,,,,Im in the same boat it seems like,,,,this really has

taken

> its toll on us....

>

> p.s on another note,,,,didnt you get relief from antihistimines as

> well???

>

> Ill be back to the grind with this crap tomorrow Im sure.

hopefully

> metzger will get er done....IM TIRED....

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

How do you know they were " doing a number " . Sorry, this is a bit

confusing to me.

I have been taking claritin often forget to take it and I don't

notice a difference. Perhaps I should keep a log. I take so many

supplements I can't keep track so I'll have to add another to the

list.

Diane

-- In VulvarDisorders , Neely

wrote:

>

> I've also been eliminating harsh chemicals and

> products from my daily routine and seen GREAT

> improvement. My shampoo, conditioner, facial

> cleansers, hairspray, toothpaste and contact lens

> solution were all doing a number on me.

>

> -

>

>

>

> --- Dusty wrote:

>

> > Not prescription antihistamine. I used OTC Claritin

> > by mouth, and Childrens

> > dye,alcohol and sugar free liquid as a topical until

> > I was sure that I

> > really was benefitting from this. Then I got my doc

> > to compound topical

> > bendryl in a vitamin e base. I used this for

> > several months while I

> > embarked on the voyage of allergen avoidance! My

> > personal care products had

> > done a number on me, not just my vulvar skin but my

> > upper arms, face, chest

> > and neck. My head was sore all the time and had

> > tiny little scabs from

> > where I'd scratch - yet no dandruff! Duh - you'd

> > think I'd have realized

> > that something was causing my head to itch - like

> > the products I was

> > applying right to it for my hair!?

> >

> > I'm not sorry I investigated the allergy route - it

> > proved very important

> > for me - and was major contributory cause of my

> > vulvar problems.

> >

> > DUsty

> >

> >

> >

> > to dusty- surgery...anithistimines.,

> > etc....

> >

> >

> >

> > I also had the surgery Dusty, and I have more DV, so

> > it wasnt very

> > useful in my case, HOWEVER it did take away most of

> > the entrance

> > pain, before that I couldnt even handle a

> > tampon...It is really good

> > for local, SPECIFIC areas of pain, like in ur

> > case......BUT two

> > things to consider

> >

> > -DV- you dont want to agrivate that.....AND

> > -you have to be put under general anesthesia....I

> > have never heard

> > of someone being concious with a local....its way

> > too painful....

> > ...... but if it Really bothers u bad then you

> > should consider

> > it......

> >

> > thanks for the well wishes, and sorry about the

> > spats with

> > hubby,,,,,Im in the same boat it seems like,,,,this

> > really has taken

> > its toll on us....

> >

> > p.s on another note,,,,didnt you get relief from

> > antihistimines as

> > well???

> >

> > Ill be back to the grind with this crap tomorrow Im

> > sure. hopefully

> > metzger will get er done....IM TIRED....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

sorry, should have explained more.

Basically my doctor " tests " each product to see if

they " weaken " me. I know that not everyone will

believe in this method but I'm seeing great results.

The doctor has me lie down on a table and put both

arma straight up in the air. Then he pushes down on

each arm (to get an idea of my strength/resistance)

while I resist and keep my arms up.

Then he places one of my products (I bring more and

more every week, from underwear to food, basically

anything I put on or in my body.)on my stomach and

pushes on my arms again. If the product " weakens " me

(ie: is bad and is causing some kind of harm) I will

not be able to keep my arms up like before.

Again, I now some will be skeptical, but the more

products etc that I eliminate from my daily life, the

better I feel. Before I started seeing this doctor,

the skin all around my vagina and inner thighs was

red, raw and sometimes swollen. The skin was actually

cracking and splitting in some areas. I had a lot of

burning and itching that was literally driving me up

the wall. Over the past few weeks almost all of the

redness is gone (and returned to a healthy pink

colour) the cracking and splitting stopped the itching

has stopped and I only get a mild to moderate burning

sensation if I apply direct pressure to my vulva. I'm

hoping I will eventually eliminate this as well.

Hope this helps!

--- dljcsp wrote:

> How do you know they were " doing a number " . Sorry,

> this is a bit

> confusing to me.

> I have been taking claritin often forget to take it

> and I don't

> notice a difference. Perhaps I should keep a log. I

> take so many

> supplements I can't keep track so I'll have to add

> another to the

> list.

> Diane

>

>

>

>

>

> -- In VulvarDisorders , Neely

>

> wrote:

> >

> > I've also been eliminating harsh chemicals and

> > products from my daily routine and seen GREAT

> > improvement. My shampoo, conditioner, facial

> > cleansers, hairspray, toothpaste and contact lens

> > solution were all doing a number on me.

> >

> > -

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Dusty wrote:

> >

> > > Not prescription antihistamine. I used OTC

> Claritin

> > > by mouth, and Childrens

> > > dye,alcohol and sugar free liquid as a topical

> until

> > > I was sure that I

> > > really was benefitting from this. Then I got my

> doc

> > > to compound topical

> > > bendryl in a vitamin e base. I used this for

> > > several months while I

> > > embarked on the voyage of allergen avoidance!

> My

> > > personal care products had

> > > done a number on me, not just my vulvar skin but

> my

> > > upper arms, face, chest

> > > and neck. My head was sore all the time and had

> > > tiny little scabs from

> > > where I'd scratch - yet no dandruff! Duh -

> you'd

> > > think I'd have realized

> > > that something was causing my head to itch -

> like

> > > the products I was

> > > applying right to it for my hair!?

> > >

> > > I'm not sorry I investigated the allergy route -

> it

> > > proved very important

> > > for me - and was major contributory cause of my

> > > vulvar problems.

> > >

> > > DUsty

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > to dusty-

> surgery...anithistimines.,

> > > etc....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I also had the surgery Dusty, and I have more

> DV, so

> > > it wasnt very

> > > useful in my case, HOWEVER it did take away most

> of

> > > the entrance

> > > pain, before that I couldnt even handle a

> > > tampon...It is really good

> > > for local, SPECIFIC areas of pain, like in ur

> > > case......BUT two

> > > things to consider

> > >

> > > -DV- you dont want to agrivate that.....AND

> > > -you have to be put under general

> anesthesia....I

> > > have never heard

> > > of someone being concious with a local....its

> way

> > > too painful....

> > > ...... but if it Really bothers u bad then you

> > > should consider

> > > it......

> > >

> > > thanks for the well wishes, and sorry about the

> > > spats with

> > > hubby,,,,,Im in the same boat it seems

> like,,,,this

> > > really has taken

> > > its toll on us....

> > >

> > > p.s on another note,,,,didnt you get relief from

> > > antihistimines as

> > > well???

> > >

> > > Ill be back to the grind with this crap tomorrow

> Im

> > > sure. hopefully

> > > metzger will get er done....IM TIRED....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

I would NEVER put antihistamine IN my vagina - even if a doc prescribed it I think.

I applied it to my vulva-

-----Original Message-----From: VulvarDisorders [mailto:VulvarDisorders ] On Behalf Of dljcspSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:32 AMTo: VulvarDisorders Subject: Re: to dusty- surgery...anithistimines., etc....

Where did you use it topically? In the vaginal area???Diane

>> Not prescription antihistamine. I used OTC Claritin by mouth, and Childrens> dye,alcohol and sugar free liquid as a topical until I was sure that I> really was benefitting from this. Then I got my doc to compound topical> bendryl in a vitamin e base.

..

[Guest guest]

Do you use a different contact lens solution, or just go without?

>

> > Not prescription antihistamine. I used OTC Claritin

> > by mouth, and Childrens

> > dye,alcohol and sugar free liquid as a topical until

> > I was sure that I

> > really was benefitting from this. Then I got my doc

> > to compound topical

> > bendryl in a vitamin e base. I used this for

> > several months while I

> > embarked on the voyage of allergen avoidance! My

> > personal care products had

> > done a number on me, not just my vulvar skin but my

> > upper arms, face, chest

> > and neck. My head was sore all the time and had

> > tiny little scabs from

> > where I'd scratch - yet no dandruff! Duh - you'd

> > think I'd have realized

> > that something was causing my head to itch - like

> > the products I was

> > applying right to it for my hair!?

> >

> > I'm not sorry I investigated the allergy route - it

> > proved very important

> > for me - and was major contributory cause of my

> > vulvar problems.

> >

> > DUsty

> >

> >

> >

> > to dusty- surgery...anithistimines.,

> > etc....

> >

> >

> >

> > I also had the surgery Dusty, and I have more DV, so

> > it wasnt very

> > useful in my case, HOWEVER it did take away most of

> > the entrance

> > pain, before that I couldnt even handle a

> > tampon...It is really good

> > for local, SPECIFIC areas of pain, like in ur

> > case......BUT two

> > things to consider

> >

> > -DV- you dont want to agrivate that.....AND

> > -you have to be put under general anesthesia....I

> > have never heard

> > of someone being concious with a local....its way

> > too painful....

> > ...... but if it Really bothers u bad then you

> > should consider

> > it......

> >

> > thanks for the well wishes, and sorry about the

> > spats with

> > hubby,,,,,Im in the same boat it seems like,,,,this

> > really has taken

> > its toll on us....

> >

> > p.s on another note,,,,didnt you get relief from

> > antihistimines as

> > well???

> >

> > Ill be back to the grind with this crap tomorrow Im

> > sure. hopefully

> > metzger will get er done....IM TIRED....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

So far I've just gone without most days, but I'm still

searching for one that tests well. For me, I think

alcohol is one of the biggest problems - I don't know

this for sure but it's been one of the main

ingredients in almost all of the products that tested

poorly.

-

--- Lindsey wrote:

> Do you use a different contact lens solution, or

> just go without?

>

>

> >

> > > Not prescription antihistamine. I used OTC

> Claritin

> > > by mouth, and Childrens

> > > dye,alcohol and sugar free liquid as a topical

> until

> > > I was sure that I

> > > really was benefitting from this. Then I got my

> doc

> > > to compound topical

> > > bendryl in a vitamin e base. I used this for

> > > several months while I

> > > embarked on the voyage of allergen avoidance!

> My

> > > personal care products had

> > > done a number on me, not just my vulvar skin but

> my

> > > upper arms, face, chest

> > > and neck. My head was sore all the time and had

> > > tiny little scabs from

> > > where I'd scratch - yet no dandruff! Duh -

> you'd

> > > think I'd have realized

> > > that something was causing my head to itch -

> like

> > > the products I was

> > > applying right to it for my hair!?

> > >

> > > I'm not sorry I investigated the allergy route -

> it

> > > proved very important

> > > for me - and was major contributory cause of my

> > > vulvar problems.

> > >

> > > DUsty

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > to dusty-

> surgery...anithistimines.,

> > > etc....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I also had the surgery Dusty, and I have more

> DV, so

> > > it wasnt very

> > > useful in my case, HOWEVER it did take away most

> of

> > > the entrance

> > > pain, before that I couldnt even handle a

> > > tampon...It is really good

> > > for local, SPECIFIC areas of pain, like in ur

> > > case......BUT two

> > > things to consider

> > >

> > > -DV- you dont want to agrivate that.....AND

> > > -you have to be put under general

> anesthesia....I

> > > have never heard

> > > of someone being concious with a local....its

> way

> > > too painful....

> > > ...... but if it Really bothers u bad then you

> > > should consider

> > > it......

> > >

> > > thanks for the well wishes, and sorry about the

> > > spats with

> > > hubby,,,,,Im in the same boat it seems

> like,,,,this

> > > really has taken

> > > its toll on us....

> > >

> > > p.s on another note,,,,didnt you get relief from

> > > antihistimines as

> > > well???

> > >

> > > Ill be back to the grind with this crap tomorrow

> Im

> > > sure. hopefully

> > > metzger will get er done....IM TIRED....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

- preservatives (or biocides-like low grade antibiotics) are one the main common denominators in the things you mention. These products all contain preservatives/biocides because we dip our fingers in them to use them and they would become highly germ laden if the preservatives/biocides weren't there. I'd rather buy pure 100% olive oil soap and run the risk of it going bad than buy a bar of soap.. Its 100% pure and its free perfumes - another high risk application.

Ever look at whats in your bar soap? Ingredients are on the back. Query the ingredietns on this site:

http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/index.htm

where you can look up an entire product or individual ingredients

to dusty- surgery...anithistimines.,> > etc....> > > > > > > > I also had the surgery Dusty, and I have more DV, so> > it wasnt very > > useful in my case, HOWEVER it did take away most of> > the entrance > > pain, before that I couldnt even handle a> > tampon...It is really good > > for local, SPECIFIC areas of pain, like in ur> > case......BUT two > > things to consider> > > > -DV- you dont want to agrivate that.....AND> > -you have to be put under general anesthesia....I> > have never heard > > of someone being concious with a local....its way> > too painful....> > ...... but if it Really bothers u bad then you> > should consider > > it......> > > > thanks for the well wishes, and sorry about the> > spats with > > hubby,,,,,Im in the same boat it seems like,,,,this> > really has taken > > its toll on us....> > > > p.s on another note,,,,didnt you get relief from> > antihistimines as > > well???> > > > Ill be back to the grind with this crap tomorrow Im> > sure. hopefully > > metzger will get er done....IM TIRED....> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info Dusty - I had a feeling my issues

with the products might have to do with preservatives,

etc.

My Dove soap that I use on my face and body is fine,

it never bothers me. But I'm going to be staying far

far away from all the facial cleansers, body washes

that I was using!

-

--- Dusty wrote:

> - preservatives (or biocides-like low grade

> antibiotics) are one the

> main common denominators in the things you mention.

> These products all

> contain preservatives/biocides because we dip our

> fingers in them to use

> them and they would become highly germ laden if the

> preservatives/biocides

> weren't there. I'd rather buy pure 100% olive oil

> soap and run the risk of

> it going bad than buy a bar of soap.. Its 100% pure

> and its free perfumes -

> another high risk application.

>

> Ever look at whats in your bar soap? Ingredients

> are on the back. Query

> the ingredietns on this site:

>

> http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/index.htm

>

> where you can look up an entire product or

> individual ingredients

>

>

>

<http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands & id

> =12002007>

>

>

>

<http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands & id

> =12002007>

>

> to dusty-

> surgery...anithistimines.,

> > > etc....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I also had the surgery Dusty, and I have more

> DV, so

> > > it wasnt very

> > > useful in my case, HOWEVER it did take away most

> of

> > > the entrance

> > > pain, before that I couldnt even handle a

> > > tampon...It is really good

> > > for local, SPECIFIC areas of pain, like in ur

> > > case......BUT two

> > > things to consider

> > >

> > > -DV- you dont want to agrivate that.....AND

> > > -you have to be put under general

> anesthesia....I

> > > have never heard

> > > of someone being concious with a local....its

> way

> > > too painful....

> > > ...... but if it Really bothers u bad then you

> > > should consider

> > > it......

> > >

> > > thanks for the well wishes, and sorry about the

> > > spats with

> > > hubby,,,,,Im in the same boat it seems

> like,,,,this

> > > really has taken

> > > its toll on us....

> > >

> > > p.s on another note,,,,didnt you get relief from

> > > antihistimines as

> > > well???

> > >

> > > Ill be back to the grind with this crap tomorrow

> Im

> > > sure. hopefully

> > > metzger will get er done....IM TIRED....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >