Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Hi, ladies, A lot of you seem to have a lot of knowledge about hormones, and I would appreciate any ideas you might have. After having back-to-back infections I went off the pill in July. I was on the pill for 12 years. Since going off, I was diagnosed with vulvar vestibulitis. I am feeling A LOT better since my initial diagnosis and am not sure if it is the incredibly low doses of elavil (10 mg) and acyclovir, or could it be that my hormones were really screwed up from being on the pill and now two months later my body is getting more normal and healing itself? Would I be really low on estrogen if I went off the pill like I did? Lindsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 > > Hi, ladies, > A lot of you seem to have a lot of knowledge about hormones, and I > would appreciate any ideas you might have. After having back-to- back > infections I went off the pill in July. I was on the pill for 12 > years. Since going off, I was diagnosed with vulvar vestibulitis. I > am feeling A LOT better since my initial diagnosis and am not sure if > it is the incredibly low doses of elavil (10 mg) and acyclovir, or > could it be that my hormones were really screwed up from being on the > pill and now two months later my body is getting more normal and > healing itself? Would I be really low on estrogen if I went off the > pill like I did? > Lindsey >Hi Linsey, I am not an expert, but after going off the pill after that many years I can certainly see why your hormones may be whacky. Acyclovir is a genital herpes drug and very effective. Elavil helps some with nerve pain. I would go back to you gyn and ask these questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 I don't know if it's that my hormones are finally regulating (after being on the pill for so long then going off) or if it's the elavil or the acyclovir, but I am feeling a lot better. There are occasional points of tenderness but they seem to be more the exception than the rule. The acyclovir is very low-dose (200 mg. vs. the daily 400 mg+ that people with herpes or hpv use), but my doc said that he consulted with an expert who said that acyclovir can be very helpful with vv. Maybe it is a form of herpes or shingles, like was discussed before (?) but without the traditional outbreak? > > > > Hi, ladies, > > A lot of you seem to have a lot of knowledge about hormones, and I > > would appreciate any ideas you might have. After having back-to- > back > > infections I went off the pill in July. I was on the pill for 12 > > years. Since going off, I was diagnosed with vulvar > vestibulitis. I > > am feeling A LOT better since my initial diagnosis and am not > sure if > > it is the incredibly low doses of elavil (10 mg) and acyclovir, or > > could it be that my hormones were really screwed up from being on > the > > pill and now two months later my body is getting more normal and > > healing itself? Would I be really low on estrogen if I went off > the > > pill like I did? > > Lindsey > >Hi Linsey, > > I am not an expert, but after going off the pill after that many > years I can certainly see why your hormones may be whacky. > Acyclovir is a genital herpes drug and very effective. Elavil helps > some with nerve pain. I would go back to you gyn and ask these > questions. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 check your birth control pills for the ingredients. if the progesterones were very much greater than the estrogens - then you could expect not to feel like yourself for a while. this is the opposite of what the body actually does on it's own and the bc pill is going against the natural glandular direction of your body by piling on the progesterones all month to make the body think its already pregnant so you can't get pregnant while on the pill. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_cycle Under the section headed HORMONAL CONTROL you will note that it says: Two sex hormones play a role in the control of the menstrual cycle: estradiol and progesterone. While estrogen peaks twice, during follicular growth and during the luteal phase, progesterone remains virtually absent prior to ovulation, but becomes critical in the luteal phase and during pregnancy. Rather than use the pill, some people are considering the IUD, MIRENA (which has tiny small doses of progesterones emitted from it which prevent pregnancy. Only very small doses are needed because the IUD is in such a position that the progesterones directly affects the uterus and the ovaries (see http://www.mirena-us.com/faq.html?C= & c=#howwork ) Dusty -----Original Message-----From: VulvarDisorders [mailto:VulvarDisorders ] On Behalf Of LindseySent: Friday, September 01, 2006 2:08 PMTo: VulvarDisorders Subject: Hormone question to all of the experts out there Hi, ladies,A lot of you seem to have a lot of knowledge about hormones, and I would appreciate any ideas you might have. After having back-to-back infections I went off the pill in July. I was on the pill for 12 years. Since going off, I was diagnosed with vulvar vestibulitis. I am feeling A LOT better since my initial diagnosis and am not sure if it is the incredibly low doses of elavil (10 mg) and acyclovir, or could it be that my hormones were really screwed up from being on the pill and now two months later my body is getting more normal and healing itself? Would I be really low on estrogen if I went off the pill like I did?Lindsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 check your birth control pills for the ingredients. if the progesterones were very much greater than the estrogens - then you could expect not to feel like yourself for a while. this is the opposite of what the body actually does on it's own and the bc pill is going against the natural glandular direction of your body by piling on the progesterones all month to make the body think its already pregnant so you can't get pregnant while on the pill. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_cycle Under the section headed HORMONAL CONTROL you will note that it says: Two sex hormones play a role in the control of the menstrual cycle: estradiol and progesterone. While estrogen peaks twice, during follicular growth and during the luteal phase, progesterone remains virtually absent prior to ovulation, but becomes critical in the luteal phase and during pregnancy. Rather than use the pill, some people are considering the IUD, MIRENA (which has tiny small doses of progesterones emitted from it which prevent pregnancy. Only very small doses are needed because the IUD is in such a position that the progesterones directly affects the uterus and the ovaries (see http://www.mirena-us.com/faq.html?C= & c=#howwork ) Dusty -----Original Message-----From: VulvarDisorders [mailto:VulvarDisorders ] On Behalf Of LindseySent: Friday, September 01, 2006 2:08 PMTo: VulvarDisorders Subject: Hormone question to all of the experts out there Hi, ladies,A lot of you seem to have a lot of knowledge about hormones, and I would appreciate any ideas you might have. After having back-to-back infections I went off the pill in July. I was on the pill for 12 years. Since going off, I was diagnosed with vulvar vestibulitis. I am feeling A LOT better since my initial diagnosis and am not sure if it is the incredibly low doses of elavil (10 mg) and acyclovir, or could it be that my hormones were really screwed up from being on the pill and now two months later my body is getting more normal and healing itself? Would I be really low on estrogen if I went off the pill like I did?Lindsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 check your birth control pills for the ingredients. if the progesterones were very much greater than the estrogens - then you could expect not to feel like yourself for a while. this is the opposite of what the body actually does on it's own and the bc pill is going against the natural glandular direction of your body by piling on the progesterones all month to make the body think its already pregnant so you can't get pregnant while on the pill. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_cycle Under the section headed HORMONAL CONTROL you will note that it says: Two sex hormones play a role in the control of the menstrual cycle: estradiol and progesterone. While estrogen peaks twice, during follicular growth and during the luteal phase, progesterone remains virtually absent prior to ovulation, but becomes critical in the luteal phase and during pregnancy. Rather than use the pill, some people are considering the IUD, MIRENA (which has tiny small doses of progesterones emitted from it which prevent pregnancy. Only very small doses are needed because the IUD is in such a position that the progesterones directly affects the uterus and the ovaries (see http://www.mirena-us.com/faq.html?C= & c=#howwork ) Dusty -----Original Message-----From: VulvarDisorders [mailto:VulvarDisorders ] On Behalf Of LindseySent: Friday, September 01, 2006 2:08 PMTo: VulvarDisorders Subject: Hormone question to all of the experts out there Hi, ladies,A lot of you seem to have a lot of knowledge about hormones, and I would appreciate any ideas you might have. After having back-to-back infections I went off the pill in July. I was on the pill for 12 years. Since going off, I was diagnosed with vulvar vestibulitis. I am feeling A LOT better since my initial diagnosis and am not sure if it is the incredibly low doses of elavil (10 mg) and acyclovir, or could it be that my hormones were really screwed up from being on the pill and now two months later my body is getting more normal and healing itself? Would I be really low on estrogen if I went off the pill like I did?Lindsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 At this point, after all the s**t I've been through, my husband can just use condoms. He has enjoyed four years of not having to, and within the next four years we will either have a family and then he can get " fixed. " No more hormones for me because of all of the side effects I started to have, no IUD, either. That thing scares me. I used to love the pill but now-no way, jose! My pill was demulen 1/35, 1 mg ethynodiol diacetate (a progesterone) and 35 mg ethinyl estradiol (an estrogen) Lindsey > > check your birth control pills for the ingredients. if the progesterones > were very much greater than the estrogens - then you could expect not to > feel like yourself for a while. this is the opposite of what the body > actually does on it's own and the bc pill is going against the natural > glandular direction of your body by piling on the progesterones all month to > make the body think its already pregnant so you can't get pregnant while on > the pill. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_cycle > > Under the section headed HORMONAL CONTROL you will note that it says: Two > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_hormone> sex hormones play a role in the > control of the menstrual cycle: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estradiol> > estradiol and <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progesterone> progesterone. > While estrogen peaks twice, during follicular growth and during the luteal > phase, progesterone remains virtually absent prior to ovulation, but becomes > critical in the luteal phase and during pregnancy. > > Rather than use the pill, some people are considering the IUD, MIRENA (which > has tiny small doses of progesterones emitted from it which prevent > pregnancy. Only very small doses are needed because the IUD is in such a > position that the progesterones directly affects the uterus and the ovaries > (see http://www.mirena-us.com/faq.html?C= > <http://www.mirena-us.com/faq.html?C= & c=#howwork> & c=#howwork ) > > Dusty > > > > > Hormone question to all of the experts out there > > > > Hi, ladies, > A lot of you seem to have a lot of knowledge about hormones, and I > would appreciate any ideas you might have. After having back-to- back > infections I went off the pill in July. I was on the pill for 12 > years. Since going off, I was diagnosed with vulvar vestibulitis. I > am feeling A LOT better since my initial diagnosis and am not sure if > it is the incredibly low doses of elavil (10 mg) and acyclovir, or > could it be that my hormones were really screwed up from being on the > pill and now two months later my body is getting more normal and > healing itself? Would I be really low on estrogen if I went off the > pill like I did? > Lindsey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 At this point, after all the s**t I've been through, my husband can just use condoms. He has enjoyed four years of not having to, and within the next four years we will either have a family and then he can get " fixed. " No more hormones for me because of all of the side effects I started to have, no IUD, either. That thing scares me. I used to love the pill but now-no way, jose! My pill was demulen 1/35, 1 mg ethynodiol diacetate (a progesterone) and 35 mg ethinyl estradiol (an estrogen) Lindsey > > check your birth control pills for the ingredients. if the progesterones > were very much greater than the estrogens - then you could expect not to > feel like yourself for a while. this is the opposite of what the body > actually does on it's own and the bc pill is going against the natural > glandular direction of your body by piling on the progesterones all month to > make the body think its already pregnant so you can't get pregnant while on > the pill. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_cycle > > Under the section headed HORMONAL CONTROL you will note that it says: Two > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_hormone> sex hormones play a role in the > control of the menstrual cycle: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estradiol> > estradiol and <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progesterone> progesterone. > While estrogen peaks twice, during follicular growth and during the luteal > phase, progesterone remains virtually absent prior to ovulation, but becomes > critical in the luteal phase and during pregnancy. > > Rather than use the pill, some people are considering the IUD, MIRENA (which > has tiny small doses of progesterones emitted from it which prevent > pregnancy. Only very small doses are needed because the IUD is in such a > position that the progesterones directly affects the uterus and the ovaries > (see http://www.mirena-us.com/faq.html?C= > <http://www.mirena-us.com/faq.html?C= & c=#howwork> & c=#howwork ) > > Dusty > > > > > Hormone question to all of the experts out there > > > > Hi, ladies, > A lot of you seem to have a lot of knowledge about hormones, and I > would appreciate any ideas you might have. After having back-to- back > infections I went off the pill in July. I was on the pill for 12 > years. Since going off, I was diagnosed with vulvar vestibulitis. I > am feeling A LOT better since my initial diagnosis and am not sure if > it is the incredibly low doses of elavil (10 mg) and acyclovir, or > could it be that my hormones were really screwed up from being on the > pill and now two months later my body is getting more normal and > healing itself? Would I be really low on estrogen if I went off the > pill like I did? > Lindsey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 At this point, after all the s**t I've been through, my husband can just use condoms. He has enjoyed four years of not having to, and within the next four years we will either have a family and then he can get " fixed. " No more hormones for me because of all of the side effects I started to have, no IUD, either. That thing scares me. I used to love the pill but now-no way, jose! My pill was demulen 1/35, 1 mg ethynodiol diacetate (a progesterone) and 35 mg ethinyl estradiol (an estrogen) Lindsey > > check your birth control pills for the ingredients. if the progesterones > were very much greater than the estrogens - then you could expect not to > feel like yourself for a while. this is the opposite of what the body > actually does on it's own and the bc pill is going against the natural > glandular direction of your body by piling on the progesterones all month to > make the body think its already pregnant so you can't get pregnant while on > the pill. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_cycle > > Under the section headed HORMONAL CONTROL you will note that it says: Two > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_hormone> sex hormones play a role in the > control of the menstrual cycle: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estradiol> > estradiol and <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progesterone> progesterone. > While estrogen peaks twice, during follicular growth and during the luteal > phase, progesterone remains virtually absent prior to ovulation, but becomes > critical in the luteal phase and during pregnancy. > > Rather than use the pill, some people are considering the IUD, MIRENA (which > has tiny small doses of progesterones emitted from it which prevent > pregnancy. Only very small doses are needed because the IUD is in such a > position that the progesterones directly affects the uterus and the ovaries > (see http://www.mirena-us.com/faq.html?C= > <http://www.mirena-us.com/faq.html?C= & c=#howwork> & c=#howwork ) > > Dusty > > > > > Hormone question to all of the experts out there > > > > Hi, ladies, > A lot of you seem to have a lot of knowledge about hormones, and I > would appreciate any ideas you might have. After having back-to- back > infections I went off the pill in July. I was on the pill for 12 > years. Since going off, I was diagnosed with vulvar vestibulitis. I > am feeling A LOT better since my initial diagnosis and am not sure if > it is the incredibly low doses of elavil (10 mg) and acyclovir, or > could it be that my hormones were really screwed up from being on the > pill and now two months later my body is getting more normal and > healing itself? Would I be really low on estrogen if I went off the > pill like I did? > Lindsey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Oops...I mean 35 mcgs of estrogen. So basically...1 mg progesterone to .035 estrogen. I'm not sure if that is a " big difference " but it sure seems like one to me. Eeek...what was I doing to my body all these years? I guess I'm going to have to go through detox practially...I'm drinking a ton of water and eating a lot of fiber, fresh fruits & veggies. I hope my body can recoup! Lindsey > > > > check your birth control pills for the ingredients. if the > progesterones > > were very much greater than the estrogens - then you could expect > not to > > feel like yourself for a while. this is the opposite of what the > body > > actually does on it's own and the bc pill is going against the > natural > > glandular direction of your body by piling on the progesterones > all month to > > make the body think its already pregnant so you can't get pregnant > while on > > the pill. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_cycle > > > > Under the section headed HORMONAL CONTROL you will note that it > says: Two > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_hormone> sex hormones play a > role in the > > control of the menstrual cycle: > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estradiol> > > estradiol and <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progesterone> > progesterone. > > While estrogen peaks twice, during follicular growth and during > the luteal > > phase, progesterone remains virtually absent prior to ovulation, > but becomes > > critical in the luteal phase and during pregnancy. > > > > Rather than use the pill, some people are considering the IUD, > MIRENA (which > > has tiny small doses of progesterones emitted from it which prevent > > pregnancy. Only very small doses are needed because the IUD is in > such a > > position that the progesterones directly affects the uterus and > the ovaries > > (see http://www.mirena-us.com/faq.html?C= > > <http://www.mirena-us.com/faq.html?C= & c=#howwork> > & c=#howwork ) > > > > Dusty > > > > > > > > > > Hormone question to all of the experts out there > > > > > > > > Hi, ladies, > > A lot of you seem to have a lot of knowledge about hormones, and I > > would appreciate any ideas you might have. After having back-to- > back > > infections I went off the pill in July. I was on the pill for 12 > > years. Since going off, I was diagnosed with vulvar vestibulitis. > I > > am feeling A LOT better since my initial diagnosis and am not sure > if > > it is the incredibly low doses of elavil (10 mg) and acyclovir, or > > could it be that my hormones were really screwed up from being on > the > > pill and now two months later my body is getting more normal and > > healing itself? Would I be really low on estrogen if I went off > the > > pill like I did? > > Lindsey > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 There are 1000 mcg in a mg, so you can do the math. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient-ff & ie=UTF-8 & rls=GGGL,GGGL:2006-27,GGGL:en & q=how+many+mcg+in+a+mg Dusty Hormone question to all of the experts out there> > > > > > > > Hi, ladies,> > A lot of you seem to have a lot of knowledge about hormones, and I > > would appreciate any ideas you might have. After having back-to-> back > > infections I went off the pill in July. I was on the pill for 12 > > years. Since going off, I was diagnosed with vulvar vestibulitis. > I > > am feeling A LOT better since my initial diagnosis and am not sure > if > > it is the incredibly low doses of elavil (10 mg) and acyclovir, or > > could it be that my hormones were really screwed up from being on > the > > pill and now two months later my body is getting more normal and > > healing itself? Would I be really low on estrogen if I went off > the > > pill like I did?> > Lindsey> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 There are 1000 mcg in a mg, so you can do the math. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient-ff & ie=UTF-8 & rls=GGGL,GGGL:2006-27,GGGL:en & q=how+many+mcg+in+a+mg Dusty Hormone question to all of the experts out there> > > > > > > > Hi, ladies,> > A lot of you seem to have a lot of knowledge about hormones, and I > > would appreciate any ideas you might have. After having back-to-> back > > infections I went off the pill in July. I was on the pill for 12 > > years. Since going off, I was diagnosed with vulvar vestibulitis. > I > > am feeling A LOT better since my initial diagnosis and am not sure > if > > it is the incredibly low doses of elavil (10 mg) and acyclovir, or > > could it be that my hormones were really screwed up from being on > the > > pill and now two months later my body is getting more normal and > > healing itself? Would I be really low on estrogen if I went off > the > > pill like I did?> > Lindsey> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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