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Nope, that was my original goal weight. I'm happy where I'm at right

now.

~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'

Tory Klementsen, MCP A+

Career and Technology Educator

www.teechur.com

www.msteechur.com

-The successful person will do the things that the unsuccessful person

will not.

> Tory

>

>

>

> Hey Tory!

> I just noticed your sig- are you still trying to get up to

> 130? I know you've struggled with your weight going too low,

> with getting sick and all....just wondering!

>

> Lis

> 223/169/140

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>

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> > Tory

> > 222/115/130

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Since you're interested, here are some articles and resources for water

running:

http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/117.shtml

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & lis

t_uids=11263030 & dopt=Abstract

http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0601.htm

Here is an aquatic fitness belt on this page:

http://www.speedousa.com/IWCatSectionView.process?IWAction=Load & Merchant

_Id=1 & Catalog_Id=10 & Section_Id=449

> Tory

>

>

> I never knew this, about the vest. We have the ordinary life vests in

> several sizes here because of company and children in the summer time

> wanting to swim, but I never knew there was such a thing as you

> mentioned. Something to check into. I do a lot of water exercises in

> the summer for the fun of it.. in fact I have one friend that when

> she comes down, we always make it a habit to get some water

> exercising in as well as swimming.

>

> I have gone to some water exercise classes so I know how they do some

> stuff. It is fun. I find it hard to get much speed,walking in the

> water, so I can imagine running in it would be a riot. Something new

> to think about.....

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------

> In Serious-Weight-Watchers , " Tory K " <msteechur@e...>

> wrote:

> > Mine couldn't handle it when I was heavy, either. However did you

> know

> > you can do water running? Yeah! Tehre are even special vests you

> can buy

> > that will hold you in the proper position.

> >

> > Walking is great preparation, though. You just never know

> where this

> > journey is going to take you...I never DREAMED it would take me to

> the

> > starting line of a road race!

> >

>

>

>

>

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> > Mine couldn't handle it when I was heavy, either. However did

you

> know

> > you can do water running? Yeah! Tehre are even special vests you

> can buy

> > that will hold you in the proper position.

> >

> > Walking is great preparation, though. You just never know where

this

> > journey is going to take you...I never DREAMED it would take me

to

> the

> > starting line of a road race!

> >

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You're welcome!

I actually find that just knowing that there are people out there

expecting me to fail, really keeps me going. Does that sound evil and

small minded? I've always been the type that when someone says, " You

can't " I turn around and prove to them I can.

> Tory

>

>

> Wow Tory, thanks a bundle for taking the time to put this piece

> together. I have actually read it over twice now, to be sure I didn't

> miss a line..... How true!!!...

> ~~Kallie~

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------

> In Serious-Weight-Watchers , " Tory Klementsen "

> <msteechur@e...> wrote:

> > I think what you have to do is realize that even though maintenance

> is

> > coming up, you're still going to do the same things. You also have

> to

> > prepare for NOT losing weight. That's hard! I loved getting that

> > feedback every week. It's great to step on the scale and say " Woo

> hoo!

> > Down another pound! " Well in maintenance you're not going to see

> that.

> > In fact sometimes you see a GAIN and it freaks you out!

> >

> > So what you have to do is prepare to set other fitness and

> nutrition

> > goals. It might be that you're not getting all your veggies and

> fruits

> > in. That becomes a new goal. Maybe you've always wanted to take up

> a new

> > sport, then that can become a new goal. I know as I endeavor on new

> > sporty type things, I reward myself with equipment. For example,

> when I

> > hit my 100 miles I'm going to actually have my stride evaluated so

> I get

> > the right pair of shoes for running.

> >

> > You also have to get ready for the positive comments to fall off,

> > negative comments to surface, and the vultures to start circling.

> It is

> > a sad fact that there are some people who are just WAITING for you

> to

> > gain your weight back. I like to keep those people in mind when I

> feel

> > like tossing back a truck load of cookies, or blowing off a

> workout. I

> > know darn good and well that there are a few people who are

> thinking

> > " Oh, she'll gain it back. You just wait! Then she won't be so

> cocky! "

> > (People who are not successful at something often mistake success

> for

> > being cocky.)

> >

> > You'll also get some negative comments about losing too much. Or

> you'll

> > get 150 excuses every time you talk to some people. People are

> really

> > sensitive about weight loss and it is WAY threatening to

> some people

> > when another person loses weight. It's almost as if a " sister has

> left

> > the fold " . I think it's mostly them reflecting their own

> insecurities

> > back on you. They feel bad about their weight, so they

> project anger

> > towards you because of your loss. I wish people would understand

> that my

> > weight loss is NOT an indictment of someone else's weight gain. But

> they

> > see it that way! They'll stand at the staff social drinking a 32

> ounce

> > regular Coke, eating a Krispy Kreme, and tell me that Weight

> Watchers

> > didn't work for them. In the meantime I'm drinking my diet cola or

> black

> > coffee and enjoying fresh strawberries and thinking " Was that the

> excuse

> > wagon that just prattled by? " I mean honestly, I don't give one RIP

> what

> > someone else weighs! But don't stand there stuffing your face with

> about

> > 1000 calories worth of a " snack " and tell me that you've tried

> losing

> > weight but it didn't work!

> >

>

>

>

>

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Tory,

I LOVE that!!! I do the same thing. When someone says I can't, I say watch

me!! LOL!

Maureen

Tory

>

>

> Wow Tory, thanks a bundle for taking the time to put this piece

> together. I have actually read it over twice now, to be sure I didn't

> miss a line..... How true!!!...

> ~~Kallie~

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------

> In Serious-Weight-Watchers , " Tory Klementsen "

> <msteechur@e...> wrote:

> > I think what you have to do is realize that even though maintenance

> is

> > coming up, you're still going to do the same things. You also have

> to

> > prepare for NOT losing weight. That's hard! I loved getting that

> > feedback every week. It's great to step on the scale and say " Woo

> hoo!

> > Down another pound! " Well in maintenance you're not going to see

> that.

> > In fact sometimes you see a GAIN and it freaks you out!

> >

> > So what you have to do is prepare to set other fitness and

> nutrition

> > goals. It might be that you're not getting all your veggies and

> fruits

> > in. That becomes a new goal. Maybe you've always wanted to take up

> a new

> > sport, then that can become a new goal. I know as I endeavor on new

> > sporty type things, I reward myself with equipment. For example,

> when I

> > hit my 100 miles I'm going to actually have my stride evaluated so

> I get

> > the right pair of shoes for running.

> >

> > You also have to get ready for the positive comments to fall off,

> > negative comments to surface, and the vultures to start circling.

> It is

> > a sad fact that there are some people who are just WAITING for you

> to

> > gain your weight back. I like to keep those people in mind when I

> feel

> > like tossing back a truck load of cookies, or blowing off a

> workout. I

> > know darn good and well that there are a few people who are

> thinking

> > " Oh, she'll gain it back. You just wait! Then she won't be so

> cocky! "

> > (People who are not successful at something often mistake success

> for

> > being cocky.)

> >

> > You'll also get some negative comments about losing too much. Or

> you'll

> > get 150 excuses every time you talk to some people. People are

> really

> > sensitive about weight loss and it is WAY threatening to

> some people

> > when another person loses weight. It's almost as if a " sister has

> left

> > the fold " . I think it's mostly them reflecting their own

> insecurities

> > back on you. They feel bad about their weight, so they

> project anger

> > towards you because of your loss. I wish people would understand

> that my

> > weight loss is NOT an indictment of someone else's weight gain. But

> they

> > see it that way! They'll stand at the staff social drinking a 32

> ounce

> > regular Coke, eating a Krispy Kreme, and tell me that Weight

> Watchers

> > didn't work for them. In the meantime I'm drinking my diet cola or

> black

> > coffee and enjoying fresh strawberries and thinking " Was that the

> excuse

> > wagon that just prattled by? " I mean honestly, I don't give one RIP

> what

> > someone else weighs! But don't stand there stuffing your face with

> about

> > 1000 calories worth of a " snack " and tell me that you've tried

> losing

> > weight but it didn't work!

> >

>

>

>

>

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Tory could you please post your turkey meat load recipe again.. i

cant find it and i cant find it on you site either...thanks a bunch,

sorry for the repost...

I am not feeling the best tonight so off to bed... You could send it

to my email if you like...

~~Kallie~

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> I think you'll be fine. You'll know if it becomes too much. I think I

> remember reading about that guy, too. I cannot IMAGINE running every

> day for that long. I mean, did he never get SICK? How could it be

> that for 25 years NOTHING interfered with his schedule? Amazing.

I know, I wondered that too. For example I have an 11 hour plane trip

coming up and I'm thinking, " Does jogging in place count? " LOL!

Today was a horrible run. I am so tired today I can hardly stand it and

I just stopped after two miles. I am kind of disappointed in myself, but

I am honestly so tired I really think it was the right thing to do. I

was really tired during my swim too. I was supposed to have a 40 mile

run, but only made it 20.

> By the way, I got up to run this morning and my husband got up, too.

> He grumped his way through most of it, but by this time we finished,

> he admitted he felt better. (He is NOT a morning person.) He even

> mentioned (on his own, with NO PRODDING!) that he might be interested

> in training for a sprint triathlon, that he thought he could do it.

> Yea! Now, I've just got to figure out if I can fit that in BEFORE the

> marathon, or if I should wait and plan to do it after?

Wow! That's HUGE! Well what if you did some cross training with an eye

towards beginning your tri-training for real about three weeks after the

marathon after your recovery time?

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> I think you'll be fine. You'll know if it becomes too much. I think I

> remember reading about that guy, too. I cannot IMAGINE running every

> day for that long. I mean, did he never get SICK? How could it be

> that for 25 years NOTHING interfered with his schedule? Amazing.

I know, I wondered that too. For example I have an 11 hour plane trip

coming up and I'm thinking, " Does jogging in place count? " LOL!

Today was a horrible run. I am so tired today I can hardly stand it and

I just stopped after two miles. I am kind of disappointed in myself, but

I am honestly so tired I really think it was the right thing to do. I

was really tired during my swim too. I was supposed to have a 40 mile

run, but only made it 20.

> By the way, I got up to run this morning and my husband got up, too.

> He grumped his way through most of it, but by this time we finished,

> he admitted he felt better. (He is NOT a morning person.) He even

> mentioned (on his own, with NO PRODDING!) that he might be interested

> in training for a sprint triathlon, that he thought he could do it.

> Yea! Now, I've just got to figure out if I can fit that in BEFORE the

> marathon, or if I should wait and plan to do it after?

Wow! That's HUGE! Well what if you did some cross training with an eye

towards beginning your tri-training for real about three weeks after the

marathon after your recovery time?

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> I think you'll be fine. You'll know if it becomes too much. I think I

> remember reading about that guy, too. I cannot IMAGINE running every

> day for that long. I mean, did he never get SICK? How could it be

> that for 25 years NOTHING interfered with his schedule? Amazing.

I know, I wondered that too. For example I have an 11 hour plane trip

coming up and I'm thinking, " Does jogging in place count? " LOL!

Today was a horrible run. I am so tired today I can hardly stand it and

I just stopped after two miles. I am kind of disappointed in myself, but

I am honestly so tired I really think it was the right thing to do. I

was really tired during my swim too. I was supposed to have a 40 mile

run, but only made it 20.

> By the way, I got up to run this morning and my husband got up, too.

> He grumped his way through most of it, but by this time we finished,

> he admitted he felt better. (He is NOT a morning person.) He even

> mentioned (on his own, with NO PRODDING!) that he might be interested

> in training for a sprint triathlon, that he thought he could do it.

> Yea! Now, I've just got to figure out if I can fit that in BEFORE the

> marathon, or if I should wait and plan to do it after?

Wow! That's HUGE! Well what if you did some cross training with an eye

towards beginning your tri-training for real about three weeks after the

marathon after your recovery time?

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> Today was a horrible run. I am so tired today I can hardly stand it

and

> I just stopped after two miles. I am kind of disappointed in

myself, but

> I am honestly so tired I really think it was the right thing to do.

I

> was really tired during my swim too. I was supposed to have a 40

mile

> run, but only made it 20.

You know what, Tory? It happens. Some days our bodies just aren't

feeling it. Maybe it's residual tiredness from when you weren't

feeling well last week? Then again, it could just be your body

saying, " hey, give me a little break here. " If there is one thing

I've learned, it is to listen when my body says slow down a little.

Usually, once I give it what it asks for, it gets right back up and

gives it all back to me in spades.

By the way, your typo (40 mile run, but only made it 20) gave me a

HUGE smile! I assume you meant minutes, not miles, but the image of

you running 40 miles just made me chuckle! I have no doubt you could

do it if you set your mind to it! : )

> Wow! That's HUGE! Well what if you did some cross training with an

eye

> towards beginning your tri-training for real about three weeks

after the

> marathon after your recovery time?

I jumped right on it as soon as he mentioned it. I looked on a local

tri calendar and there are several in Arkansas and the surrounding

states during the fall (August/September), but I'm worried that

trying to train for my first mary and my first tri at the same time

might be a recipe for disaster. I'll probably take your suggestion

and start now adding in some swimming and biking as cross training,

but not getting serious about the training until after the marathon.

The calendars I looked at did not list any 2005 tris, but I assume

the 2004 ones that said " annual " will be held again next year around

the same time. There are some in the spring and others in the fall,

so I'll just plan to do one of those. I think may go ahead and

start training for one without me, though, which I think will

actually be a good idea. I can do some of the bike and swim workouts

along with him, but it'll be something just for him, like the

marathon is something just for me. I think it might make his first

experience more special, if I'm there as a cheerful supporter, and

not as a competitor. Then, next year, we can compete together in a

tri. Ever since I started this running thing, he's always been there

to support me. I think it would be cool for me to do the same.

April

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> Today was a horrible run. I am so tired today I can hardly stand it

and

> I just stopped after two miles. I am kind of disappointed in

myself, but

> I am honestly so tired I really think it was the right thing to do.

I

> was really tired during my swim too. I was supposed to have a 40

mile

> run, but only made it 20.

You know what, Tory? It happens. Some days our bodies just aren't

feeling it. Maybe it's residual tiredness from when you weren't

feeling well last week? Then again, it could just be your body

saying, " hey, give me a little break here. " If there is one thing

I've learned, it is to listen when my body says slow down a little.

Usually, once I give it what it asks for, it gets right back up and

gives it all back to me in spades.

By the way, your typo (40 mile run, but only made it 20) gave me a

HUGE smile! I assume you meant minutes, not miles, but the image of

you running 40 miles just made me chuckle! I have no doubt you could

do it if you set your mind to it! : )

> Wow! That's HUGE! Well what if you did some cross training with an

eye

> towards beginning your tri-training for real about three weeks

after the

> marathon after your recovery time?

I jumped right on it as soon as he mentioned it. I looked on a local

tri calendar and there are several in Arkansas and the surrounding

states during the fall (August/September), but I'm worried that

trying to train for my first mary and my first tri at the same time

might be a recipe for disaster. I'll probably take your suggestion

and start now adding in some swimming and biking as cross training,

but not getting serious about the training until after the marathon.

The calendars I looked at did not list any 2005 tris, but I assume

the 2004 ones that said " annual " will be held again next year around

the same time. There are some in the spring and others in the fall,

so I'll just plan to do one of those. I think may go ahead and

start training for one without me, though, which I think will

actually be a good idea. I can do some of the bike and swim workouts

along with him, but it'll be something just for him, like the

marathon is something just for me. I think it might make his first

experience more special, if I'm there as a cheerful supporter, and

not as a competitor. Then, next year, we can compete together in a

tri. Ever since I started this running thing, he's always been there

to support me. I think it would be cool for me to do the same.

April

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> Today was a horrible run. I am so tired today I can hardly stand it

and

> I just stopped after two miles. I am kind of disappointed in

myself, but

> I am honestly so tired I really think it was the right thing to do.

I

> was really tired during my swim too. I was supposed to have a 40

mile

> run, but only made it 20.

You know what, Tory? It happens. Some days our bodies just aren't

feeling it. Maybe it's residual tiredness from when you weren't

feeling well last week? Then again, it could just be your body

saying, " hey, give me a little break here. " If there is one thing

I've learned, it is to listen when my body says slow down a little.

Usually, once I give it what it asks for, it gets right back up and

gives it all back to me in spades.

By the way, your typo (40 mile run, but only made it 20) gave me a

HUGE smile! I assume you meant minutes, not miles, but the image of

you running 40 miles just made me chuckle! I have no doubt you could

do it if you set your mind to it! : )

> Wow! That's HUGE! Well what if you did some cross training with an

eye

> towards beginning your tri-training for real about three weeks

after the

> marathon after your recovery time?

I jumped right on it as soon as he mentioned it. I looked on a local

tri calendar and there are several in Arkansas and the surrounding

states during the fall (August/September), but I'm worried that

trying to train for my first mary and my first tri at the same time

might be a recipe for disaster. I'll probably take your suggestion

and start now adding in some swimming and biking as cross training,

but not getting serious about the training until after the marathon.

The calendars I looked at did not list any 2005 tris, but I assume

the 2004 ones that said " annual " will be held again next year around

the same time. There are some in the spring and others in the fall,

so I'll just plan to do one of those. I think may go ahead and

start training for one without me, though, which I think will

actually be a good idea. I can do some of the bike and swim workouts

along with him, but it'll be something just for him, like the

marathon is something just for me. I think it might make his first

experience more special, if I'm there as a cheerful supporter, and

not as a competitor. Then, next year, we can compete together in a

tri. Ever since I started this running thing, he's always been there

to support me. I think it would be cool for me to do the same.

April

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Hee hee...yes I mean minutes! I got a chuckle today, though, when one of

my kids was telling one of the other kids, " We had to run the 1.6 today

in weight conditioning! " They were really upset...a WHOLE 1.6! I caught

myself saying, " What's the big deal? I wasn't feeling good and I ran two

miles yesterday. One point six is nothing! " I never thought I'd see a

time when I'd think that running two miles was " wimping out " .

I think your marathon to tri plan is perfect! You might about ready to

scream if you have to do another long run but you'll be itching to get

back exercise and biking and swimming might be just the thing!

> Re: Tory

>

>

> > Today was a horrible run. I am so tired today I can hardly stand it

> and

> > I just stopped after two miles. I am kind of disappointed in

> myself, but

> > I am honestly so tired I really think it was the right thing to do.

> I

> > was really tired during my swim too. I was supposed to have a 40

> mile

> > run, but only made it 20.

>

> You know what, Tory? It happens. Some days our bodies just aren't

> feeling it. Maybe it's residual tiredness from when you weren't

> feeling well last week? Then again, it could just be your body

> saying, " hey, give me a little break here. " If there is one thing

> I've learned, it is to listen when my body says slow down a little.

> Usually, once I give it what it asks for, it gets right back up and

> gives it all back to me in spades.

>

> By the way, your typo (40 mile run, but only made it 20) gave me a

> HUGE smile! I assume you meant minutes, not miles, but the image of

> you running 40 miles just made me chuckle! I have no doubt you could

> do it if you set your mind to it! : )

>

> > Wow! That's HUGE! Well what if you did some cross training with an

> eye

> > towards beginning your tri-training for real about three weeks

> after the

> > marathon after your recovery time?

>

> I jumped right on it as soon as he mentioned it. I looked on a local

> tri calendar and there are several in Arkansas and the surrounding

> states during the fall (August/September), but I'm worried that

> trying to train for my first mary and my first tri at the same time

> might be a recipe for disaster. I'll probably take your suggestion

> and start now adding in some swimming and biking as cross training,

> but not getting serious about the training until after the marathon.

> The calendars I looked at did not list any 2005 tris, but I assume

> the 2004 ones that said " annual " will be held again next year around

> the same time. There are some in the spring and others in the fall,

> so I'll just plan to do one of those. I think may go ahead and

> start training for one without me, though, which I think will

> actually be a good idea. I can do some of the bike and swim workouts

> along with him, but it'll be something just for him, like the

> marathon is something just for me. I think it might make his first

> experience more special, if I'm there as a cheerful supporter, and

> not as a competitor. Then, next year, we can compete together in a

> tri. Ever since I started this running thing, he's always been there

> to support me. I think it would be cool for me to do the same.

>

> April

>

>

>

>

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Oh, Tory, I can't remember the last time I laughed like this in the morning! Thanks!

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I did it all online, which worked for me. This group and the boards were/are my support (as well as my husband). Okay, my husband, this group, and the boards were/are my support. The groups and boards are not my husband. English is such a FUN language!

My website is at www.msteechur.com :D

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Oh, Tory, I can't remember the last time I laughed like this in the morning! Thanks!

Lis Lane

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RE: Tory

I did it all online, which worked for me. This group and the boards were/are my support (as well as my husband). Okay, my husband, this group, and the boards were/are my support. The groups and boards are not my husband. English is such a FUN language!

My website is at www.msteechur.com :D

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Oh, Tory, I can't remember the last time I laughed like this in the morning! Thanks!

Lis Lane

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RE: Tory

I did it all online, which worked for me. This group and the boards were/are my support (as well as my husband). Okay, my husband, this group, and the boards were/are my support. The groups and boards are not my husband. English is such a FUN language!

My website is at www.msteechur.com :D

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Hee hee...feel free to laugh at me. Everyone else does! ;)

-----Original Message-----From: theshihtzu Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 5:19 AMTo: Serious-Weight-Watchers Subject: Re: Tory

Oh, Tory, I can't remember the last time I laughed like this in the morning! Thanks!

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RE: Tory

I did it all online, which worked for me. This group and the boards were/are my support (as well as my husband). Okay, my husband, this group, and the boards were/are my support. The groups and boards are not my husband. English is such a FUN language!

My website is at www.msteechur.com :D

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Hee hee...feel free to laugh at me. Everyone else does! ;)

-----Original Message-----From: theshihtzu Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 5:19 AMTo: Serious-Weight-Watchers Subject: Re: Tory

Oh, Tory, I can't remember the last time I laughed like this in the morning! Thanks!

Lis Lane

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RE: Tory

I did it all online, which worked for me. This group and the boards were/are my support (as well as my husband). Okay, my husband, this group, and the boards were/are my support. The groups and boards are not my husband. English is such a FUN language!

My website is at www.msteechur.com :D

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Hee hee...feel free to laugh at me. Everyone else does! ;)

-----Original Message-----From: theshihtzu Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 5:19 AMTo: Serious-Weight-Watchers Subject: Re: Tory

Oh, Tory, I can't remember the last time I laughed like this in the morning! Thanks!

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I did it all online, which worked for me. This group and the boards were/are my support (as well as my husband). Okay, my husband, this group, and the boards were/are my support. The groups and boards are not my husband. English is such a FUN language!

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Tory:

I agree with everything you said in your post below. I watched Dr. Phil today, as I have been following these people's progress, & I was so happy for each of them.

Now, I want to ask you something - - or anyone else out there who might want to answer this also.

What is that "thing', that 'determination' that gives a person the ultimate motivation to deny themselves of 'just a bite' when the temptation is starring them in the face?

What is it that helps a person get with a program and stick with it? If I had the answer to this & could bottle it, I would be rich overnight.

I almost felt that old determination yesterday, but not quite. I was in a store with my daughter & finally got really angry with myself that I can't wear the type of clothes I want to. For just a little bit, I was determined, no matter what, I was going to do this & get to the size I want this time, bur I must admit I don't have that feeling right this moment as strongly as I had it yesterday. That isn't saying I have eaten bad today, because I haven't. It is just I am still 'white knuckling' it & I don't like being in this stage. I want that confident feeling from within, when one knows nothing is going to get in their way to prevent them from achieving their goal.

Sharon

Ultimate Weight Loss Challenge

I'm watching this on Tivo right now and I swear I am bawling like a freaking BABY! I am so proud of these people! Yes, they had support. Yes, they had someone behind them kicking their butts. Yes, they had the pressure of TV, but when it all came down to brass tacks it was ALL them. When you're standing at the fridge at midnight with that refrigerator light falling across your face it doesn't matter who is behind you or what external motivations are down the road...it's just you and the temptation and the ONLY one in control at that moment is you.

I am so darn proud of these people and I know how they feel. I know exactly how they feel! It doesn't matter what tangible gift Dr. Phil gives them, they gave themselves the BEST gift of all...a new lease on life!

~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'Tory Klementsen, MCP A+Career and Technology Educatorwww.teechur.comwww.msteechur.com-The successful person will do the things that the unsuccessful person will not.

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That is such a good question Sharon, and maybe as I answer it (or try to) will explain what I mean when I say everyone can strive for perfection.

First of all, you're totally normal. That feeling isn't around all the time. Some days you wake up knowing that you're going to make good choices all day without problem. You feel strong and confident and like nothing can stop you.

Other days you wake up wondering if you can do it one more meal, if not one more day.

Most days you just wake up and it's habit. You sometimes stand and stare temptation in the face and sometimes it threatens to win, but you just take it meal by meal, moment by moment.

The first kind of days are great and the best part is, they get more and more frequent. I have found that because of those days it is momentum that keeps me going on those "normal" days.

So how do I keep going on those other days? A few things.

1. I have a LOT of before and after pictures around me. I have this one where I am standing looking at a tea cup in a shop in Disneyworld. My belly is stuck out in front of me like a big pontoon and I look so incredibly fat that if someone had called Greenpeace, they would have started dousing me with salt water and rolling me towards the tide. That picture reminds me I never EVER want to go back.

2. Sometimes that's not enough and I just have to take myself in hand and get firm. Hey, fact is there are times when I'd WAY rather eat those cookies than pass them up. I'm not hungry. I don't have the points. Or maybe I do have them, but I need to eat dinner later. I'm reaching for the cookies because the little voice inside of me is saying "C'mon, it's just a few cookies. You're on maintenance. You can have them."

That's when I seriously take myself in hand and basically, tell myself to grow up. There are a LOT of things I want to do. This morning I was riding my bike to work and this little part of me wanted to ride right by and just take the day off and ride my bike and enjoy the sun. Didn't do it because I'm an adult with responsibilities. I see my body that way now. It is something that is my responsibility and since I am an adult I can't treat it like an amusement park any more. (Although I will say there are a LOT more ways to have fun with your body that don't employ food, than I ever had WITH food.)

3. Denial works really well other times. I see the cookies or the chocolate and close the drawer, drop them in the garbage, push them out of my mind and move on. Sometimes I can do that without problem. I see them and just push out those thoughts of "oooh, those look good" and move on.

4. I've watched the Dr. Phil Weight Loss Challenge and I really REALLY like his key of setting up a no fail environment. You just can't be tempted if temptation isn't around! There are no cookies in my house. There is no chocolate. I have low calorie sweets, I have lots of fruit, I have lots of vegetables. When I have the munchies I have lots of low calorie options to choose from. Yeah, I might RATHER have a gooey chocolate brownie, but that's just not an option.

5. I make sure that I do have things I like around that are low in points. I guess that's part of number 4.

6. I celebrate success in myself and in others. I still read the message boards and think "atta girl!" and I still look at people's weight loss websites and get excited. Every day I record the program "I Lost It" and if I have 20 minutes I sit down and watch it. Success breeds success. Knowing that someone else did it and is doing it makes me feel confident that I can do it.

7. Finally I believe in myself and I love myself. I know how vain that sounds, but that's okay because I know what I mean. I spent years thinking that I wasn't worth even attempting weight loss. After all, why bother? I was the ugly fat one in the family. That was my role. I had doomed myself to living within this "box" that defined me as smart...BUT: fat, physically sloppy, unfit, out of shape, clumsy, slovenly, out of control. WELL before I started WWErs I learned to love myself exactly as I was, flab and all. I think we all need to understand that we are beautiful, valuable people. Our weight does not add to our value, nor does it detract from it. I am proud of my accomplishments related to weight loss and exercise, but not because of how I look. Rather because I set goals and I stuck to them. I know the effort I put in and when I have a victory, I celebrate it. The more I allow myself to take pride in my accomplishments, the easier it becomes to keep that momentum going.

Those things are all "tools" that I keep in my toolbox to pull out when I need them to do a job. Sometimes a simple tool like #3 will work. Other times I have to pull out the big guns and use #2.

And you know what else? It doesn't matter how I look or what size I am, but I can't begin to tell you just how much BETTER I feel after deleting 108+ pounds! Oh my gosh it is INCREDIBLE! Sure makes it easier when I am tempted, but there are still days! Trust me...there are still days!

-----Original Message-----From: sharon hill Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 9:34 PMTo: Serious-Weight-Watchers Subject: Re: TORY

Tory:

I agree with everything you said in your post below. I watched Dr. Phil today, as I have been following these people's progress, & I was so happy for each of them.

Now, I want to ask you something - - or anyone else out there who might want to answer this also.

What is that "thing', that 'determination' that gives a person the ultimate motivation to deny themselves of 'just a bite' when the temptation is starring them in the face?

What is it that helps a person get with a program and stick with it? If I had the answer to this & could bottle it, I would be rich overnight.

I almost felt that old determination yesterday, but not quite. I was in a store with my daughter & finally got really angry with myself that I can't wear the type of clothes I want to. For just a little bit, I was determined, no matter what, I was going to do this & get to the size I want this time, bur I must admit I don't have that feeling right this moment as strongly as I had it yesterday. That isn't saying I have eaten bad today, because I haven't. It is just I am still 'white knuckling' it & I don't like being in this stage. I want that confident feeling from within, when one knows nothing is going to get in their way to prevent them from achieving their goal.

Sharon

Ultimate Weight Loss Challenge

I'm watching this on Tivo right now and I swear I am bawling like a freaking BABY! I am so proud of these people! Yes, they had support. Yes, they had someone behind them kicking their butts. Yes, they had the pressure of TV, but when it all came down to brass tacks it was ALL them. When you're standing at the fridge at midnight with that refrigerator light falling across your face it doesn't matter who is behind you or what external motivations are down the road...it's just you and the temptation and the ONLY one in control at that moment is you.

I am so darn proud of these people and I know how they feel. I know exactly how they feel! It doesn't matter what tangible gift Dr. Phil gives them, they gave themselves the BEST gift of all...a new lease on life!

~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'Tory Klementsen, MCP A+Career and Technology Educatorwww.teechur.comwww.msteechur.com-The successful person will do the things that the unsuccessful person will not.

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Thanks Tory for the answers you gave. I appreciate the input.

7. Finally I believe in myself and I love myself. I know how vain that sounds,I don't think this sounds vain AT ALL! I think you have worked & obtained

the right to love yourself - - which, I think if I loved myself right now, I wouldn't be white knuckling it so hard. I have been up & down the scales all my life, I have lost over a 100 pounds 3 times before, only to put it back on again, again & again. I call doing this pretty stupid, really ignorant, but it was like I woke up one morning & all the weight was back & I didn't know how I got myself back to that point - again!

I have been doing a lot of reading, listening to Dr. Phil & Oprah, etc. & I am beginning to believe we have to LOVE ourselves before we can really obtain success & maintain it. I think in my past failures, I learned how to lose the weight, but I never learned to love ME!

I am so glad you said what you did about loving yourself. You hit me right smack dab on & this is something I am having to work at.

but that's okay because I know what I mean. I spent years thinking that I wasn't worth even attempting weight loss. After all, why bother? I was the ugly fat one in the family. That was my role. I had doomed myself to living within this "box" that defined me as smart...BUT: fat, physically sloppy, unfit, out of shape, clumsy, slovenly, out of control. WELL before I started WWErs I learned to love myself exactly as I was, flab and allWhat helped you learn to love yourself exactly as you were?. I think we all need to understand that we are beautiful, valuable people. Our weight does not add to our value,but in my warped mind, weight does add or detract

from my self value. Please share how you learned to love yourself, flab & all. I would be interested in hearing it. nor does it detract from it.

I have heard Dr. Phil make a statement similar to this many times, that each of

us must know we have self worth, fat, thin, wherever, but I have always let my weight dictate my self worth, or at least, as far as what I think of

myself. I am proud of my accomplishments related to weight loss and exercise, but not because of how I look. Rather because I set goals and I stuck to them. I know the effort I put in and when I have a victory, I celebrate it. The more I allow myself to take pride in my accomplishments, the easier it becomes to keep that momentum going. I never celebrated my weight losses, never even thought about celebrating. From now on though, when I have a victory, I am going to

start thinking of small ways I can celebrate 'myself'. This time around I am not losing weight for how I will look, but for how it will make me

feel differently about myself and so I can feel healthier. Sorry for making my message two-toned but I just read again where you said you learned to love yourself, flab & all & your message excited me, so I wanted my question to you to stand out! ha

Thanks for your sharing.

Sharon

Ultimate Weight Loss Challenge

I'm watching this on Tivo right now and I swear I am bawling like a freaking BABY! I am so proud of these people! Yes, they had support. Yes, they had someone behind them kicking their butts. Yes, they had the pressure of TV, but when it all came down to brass tacks it was ALL them. When you're standing at the fridge at midnight with that refrigerator light falling across your face it doesn't matter who is behind you or what external motivations are down the road...it's just you and the temptation and the ONLY one in control at that moment is you.

I am so darn proud of these people and I know how they feel. I know exactly how they feel! It doesn't matter what tangible gift Dr. Phil gives them, they gave themselves the BEST gift of all...a new lease on life!

~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'Tory Klementsen, MCP A+Career and Technology Educatorwww.teechur.comwww.msteechur.com-The successful person will do the things that the unsuccessful person will not.

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Oh my GOSH Sharon! You have to celebrate every single teeny tiny little accomplishment! It doesn't matter if no one else celebrates or if they even KNOW you're celebrating. The point is you take intentional effort to say "Sharon, you did a GREAT thing for yourself!"

But I know the main thing you're asking is how do you learn to love yourself. For me it was learning to accept myself as a fat woman and love and embrace WHO I was regardless of what I looked like. I read books like "Wake Up Mom, I'm Fat!" and "Fat?So!" and "Self Esteem at Any Size." These books help me put fat into perspective. It only holds us back if we choose to allow it to hold us back. It's hard to do this, but I just kept working at it.

The other thing I did that sounds SO simplistic, but works, is that I stopped ALL of the negative self talk. Seriously. If I started to let those thoughts creep in I would literally push them out. I would rephrase. If I looked in the mirror and started to think (like normal) "You look like crap" I immediately rephrased it to "You look beautiful! You're the best you you can be today!"

It took me about a year to get to the point where I truly had stopped the negative self talk and really believed in myself. During this time I didn't try to lose weight. It was, in fact, the furthest thing from my mind. I truly believe that THIS was the key. So that when I DID start Weight Watchers it was almost a gift to myself. I mean after all, if I love myself the way I say I do then I can't abuse my body. I remember one day thinking, "Tory, if you had a daughter you wouldn't let her eat the way you do and sit on the couch all evening. You would love her enough to push her out the door, feed her nutritious food, and help her be the best person she can be. She might not always like it, but as the person who loves her more than anyone, you would do what was BEST for her, not what was EASIEST."

So if I would do that for a child, I needed to love myself enough to do that for me.

See I think that might explain a little more my "there is no such thing as failure" attitude. It isn't always easy and it isn't always fun, but it is ALWAYS worth it.

So I would really encourage you, Sharon, to learn just who Sharon is. What is so special about her. What is beautiful about her? Trust me, standing in front of a mirror naked and forcing myself to say positive things about what I saw was hard. I'm so glad I did it, though. It was a changing moment in my life. I did that many many times and each time I believed it a little bit more. Don't worry if at first it feels like you're fooling yourself. Sometimes you just "fake it until you make it".

Got to head to work now! You can DO this!

-----Original Message-----From: sharon hill Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 11:28 PMTo: Serious-Weight-Watchers Subject: Re: TORY

Thanks Tory for the answers you gave. I appreciate the input.

7. Finally I believe in myself and I love myself. I know how vain that sounds,I don't think this sounds vain AT ALL! I think you have worked & obtained

the right to love yourself - - which, I think if I loved myself right now, I wouldn't be white knuckling it so hard. I have been up & down the scales all my life, I have lost over a 100 pounds 3 times before, only to put it back on again, again & again. I call doing this pretty stupid, really ignorant, but it was like I woke up one morning & all the weight was back & I didn't know how I got myself back to that point - again!

I have been doing a lot of reading, listening to Dr. Phil & Oprah, etc. & I am beginning to believe we have to LOVE ourselves before we can really obtain success & maintain it. I think in my past failures, I learned how to lose the weight, but I never learned to love ME!

I am so glad you said what you did about loving yourself. You hit me right smack dab on & this is something I am having to work at.

but that's okay because I know what I mean. I spent years thinking that I wasn't worth even attempting weight loss. After all, why bother? I was the ugly fat one in the family. That was my role. I had doomed myself to living within this "box" that defined me as smart...BUT: fat, physically sloppy, unfit, out of shape, clumsy, slovenly, out of control. WELL before I started WWErs I learned to love myself exactly as I was, flab and allWhat helped you learn to love yourself exactly as you were?. I think we all need to understand that we are beautiful, valuable people. Our weight does not add to our value,but in my warped mind, weight does add or detract

from my self value. Please share how you learned to love yourself, flab & all. I would be interested in hearing it. nor does it detract from it.

I have heard Dr. Phil make a statement similar to this many times, that each of

us must know we have self worth, fat, thin, wherever, but I have always let my weight dictate my self worth, or at least, as far as what I think of

myself. I am proud of my accomplishments related to weight loss and exercise, but not because of how I look. Rather because I set goals and I stuck to them. I know the effort I put in and when I have a victory, I celebrate it. The more I allow myself to take pride in my accomplishments, the easier it becomes to keep that momentum going. I never celebrated my weight losses, never even thought about celebrating. From now on though, when I have a victory, I am going to

start thinking of small ways I can celebrate 'myself'. This time around I am not losing weight for how I will look, but for how it will make me

feel differently about myself and so I can feel healthier. Sorry for making my message two-toned but I just read again where you said you learned to love yourself, flab & all & your message excited me, so I wanted my question to you to stand out! ha

Thanks for your sharing.

Sharon

Ultimate Weight Loss Challenge

I'm watching this on Tivo right now and I swear I am bawling like a freaking BABY! I am so proud of these people! Yes, they had support. Yes, they had someone behind them kicking their butts. Yes, they had the pressure of TV, but when it all came down to brass tacks it was ALL them. When you're standing at the fridge at midnight with that refrigerator light falling across your face it doesn't matter who is behind you or what external motivations are down the road...it's just you and the temptation and the ONLY one in control at that moment is you.

I am so darn proud of these people and I know how they feel. I know exactly how they feel! It doesn't matter what tangible gift Dr. Phil gives them, they gave themselves the BEST gift of all...a new lease on life!

~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'Tory Klementsen, MCP A+Career and Technology Educatorwww.teechur.comwww.msteechur.com-The successful person will do the things that the unsuccessful person will not.

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Oh my GOSH Sharon! You have to celebrate every single teeny tiny little accomplishment! It doesn't matter if no one else celebrates or if they even KNOW you're celebrating. The point is you take intentional effort to say "Sharon, you did a GREAT thing for yourself!"

But I know the main thing you're asking is how do you learn to love yourself. For me it was learning to accept myself as a fat woman and love and embrace WHO I was regardless of what I looked like. I read books like "Wake Up Mom, I'm Fat!" and "Fat?So!" and "Self Esteem at Any Size." These books help me put fat into perspective. It only holds us back if we choose to allow it to hold us back. It's hard to do this, but I just kept working at it.

The other thing I did that sounds SO simplistic, but works, is that I stopped ALL of the negative self talk. Seriously. If I started to let those thoughts creep in I would literally push them out. I would rephrase. If I looked in the mirror and started to think (like normal) "You look like crap" I immediately rephrased it to "You look beautiful! You're the best you you can be today!"

It took me about a year to get to the point where I truly had stopped the negative self talk and really believed in myself. During this time I didn't try to lose weight. It was, in fact, the furthest thing from my mind. I truly believe that THIS was the key. So that when I DID start Weight Watchers it was almost a gift to myself. I mean after all, if I love myself the way I say I do then I can't abuse my body. I remember one day thinking, "Tory, if you had a daughter you wouldn't let her eat the way you do and sit on the couch all evening. You would love her enough to push her out the door, feed her nutritious food, and help her be the best person she can be. She might not always like it, but as the person who loves her more than anyone, you would do what was BEST for her, not what was EASIEST."

So if I would do that for a child, I needed to love myself enough to do that for me.

See I think that might explain a little more my "there is no such thing as failure" attitude. It isn't always easy and it isn't always fun, but it is ALWAYS worth it.

So I would really encourage you, Sharon, to learn just who Sharon is. What is so special about her. What is beautiful about her? Trust me, standing in front of a mirror naked and forcing myself to say positive things about what I saw was hard. I'm so glad I did it, though. It was a changing moment in my life. I did that many many times and each time I believed it a little bit more. Don't worry if at first it feels like you're fooling yourself. Sometimes you just "fake it until you make it".

Got to head to work now! You can DO this!

-----Original Message-----From: sharon hill Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 11:28 PMTo: Serious-Weight-Watchers Subject: Re: TORY

Thanks Tory for the answers you gave. I appreciate the input.

7. Finally I believe in myself and I love myself. I know how vain that sounds,I don't think this sounds vain AT ALL! I think you have worked & obtained

the right to love yourself - - which, I think if I loved myself right now, I wouldn't be white knuckling it so hard. I have been up & down the scales all my life, I have lost over a 100 pounds 3 times before, only to put it back on again, again & again. I call doing this pretty stupid, really ignorant, but it was like I woke up one morning & all the weight was back & I didn't know how I got myself back to that point - again!

I have been doing a lot of reading, listening to Dr. Phil & Oprah, etc. & I am beginning to believe we have to LOVE ourselves before we can really obtain success & maintain it. I think in my past failures, I learned how to lose the weight, but I never learned to love ME!

I am so glad you said what you did about loving yourself. You hit me right smack dab on & this is something I am having to work at.

but that's okay because I know what I mean. I spent years thinking that I wasn't worth even attempting weight loss. After all, why bother? I was the ugly fat one in the family. That was my role. I had doomed myself to living within this "box" that defined me as smart...BUT: fat, physically sloppy, unfit, out of shape, clumsy, slovenly, out of control. WELL before I started WWErs I learned to love myself exactly as I was, flab and allWhat helped you learn to love yourself exactly as you were?. I think we all need to understand that we are beautiful, valuable people. Our weight does not add to our value,but in my warped mind, weight does add or detract

from my self value. Please share how you learned to love yourself, flab & all. I would be interested in hearing it. nor does it detract from it.

I have heard Dr. Phil make a statement similar to this many times, that each of

us must know we have self worth, fat, thin, wherever, but I have always let my weight dictate my self worth, or at least, as far as what I think of

myself. I am proud of my accomplishments related to weight loss and exercise, but not because of how I look. Rather because I set goals and I stuck to them. I know the effort I put in and when I have a victory, I celebrate it. The more I allow myself to take pride in my accomplishments, the easier it becomes to keep that momentum going. I never celebrated my weight losses, never even thought about celebrating. From now on though, when I have a victory, I am going to

start thinking of small ways I can celebrate 'myself'. This time around I am not losing weight for how I will look, but for how it will make me

feel differently about myself and so I can feel healthier. Sorry for making my message two-toned but I just read again where you said you learned to love yourself, flab & all & your message excited me, so I wanted my question to you to stand out! ha

Thanks for your sharing.

Sharon

Ultimate Weight Loss Challenge

I'm watching this on Tivo right now and I swear I am bawling like a freaking BABY! I am so proud of these people! Yes, they had support. Yes, they had someone behind them kicking their butts. Yes, they had the pressure of TV, but when it all came down to brass tacks it was ALL them. When you're standing at the fridge at midnight with that refrigerator light falling across your face it doesn't matter who is behind you or what external motivations are down the road...it's just you and the temptation and the ONLY one in control at that moment is you.

I am so darn proud of these people and I know how they feel. I know exactly how they feel! It doesn't matter what tangible gift Dr. Phil gives them, they gave themselves the BEST gift of all...a new lease on life!

~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'Tory Klementsen, MCP A+Career and Technology Educatorwww.teechur.comwww.msteechur.com-The successful person will do the things that the unsuccessful person will not.

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