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I can tell you what MY body does from actions & reactions. When I am taking

T4 only I have a heart murmur, on Armour I do not. On T4 only my TSH drops

so apparently in spite of low T3 there are messages to the thyroid to stop

production.

Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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>On T4 only my TSH drops so apparently in spite of low T3 there are

>messages to the thyroid to stop production.

That is interesting.....and something I have forgotten about. The

pituitary gland can respond to your T4 and almost totally ignore

whether you have the needed T3. Dumb pituitary gland.

Janie

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> T4 only I have a heart murmur, on Armour I do not. On T4 only my

TSH drops

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> Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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It is well known in the literature that T4 is more suppressive of

TSH than T3. If you assigned an energy value to T4 and T3, you would

find that the person on T4 would be getting less energy, while

suppressing his TSH below 1.0 than a person on T3 who suppressed TSH

to the same level.

What's amazing to me is that doctors are so stupid as to still want

people to have normal TSH on Synthroid even though the evidence is

that it takes much more Synthroid to get the same energy production

of a little Armour. The older texts from the 1970's said that TSH

needed to be totally supressed with Synthroid before patients became

euthyroid. They found that average doses of 300 to 400mcg of

Synthroid was needed before people felt good. It took much less

Armour to achieve the same goal and TSH would not be totally

suppressed.

Tish

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> It is well known in the literature that T4 is more suppressive of

> TSH than T3.

Excellent comment and it brings up the point that suppressing the

TSH with T4-only meds is far different than suppressing the TSH with

Armour...also as you wisely stated. At least with Armour, we get the

direct T3, besides the benefit of the T2, T1 and calcitonin.

Doctors are cows---if the pharmaceuticals leads with T4 meds, the

cows follow, one by one.

Janie

[Guest guest]

> It is well known in the literature that T4 is more suppressive of

> TSH than T3.

Excellent comment and it brings up the point that suppressing the

TSH with T4-only meds is far different than suppressing the TSH with

Armour...also as you wisely stated. At least with Armour, we get the

direct T3, besides the benefit of the T2, T1 and calcitonin.

Doctors are cows---if the pharmaceuticals leads with T4 meds, the

cows follow, one by one.

Janie

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> Actually I am striving for a 0 TSH!!!

Earlier this year, I was on 2 1/4 grains. Had fantastic energy and

stamina, but felt like I still had some other lingering symptoms. So

I decided to inch towards 3 grains...1/4 grain at a time. I had

always dosed by labwork, which I see as helpful when you are first

starting out on Armour, but decided to dose totally by symptoms.

When I got to 3 grains and held it, I felt fantastic. And

then....out of curiousity....I did labs. My TSH was .009. No hyper.

Just symptoms of feeling great!! This is where I became a believer

of dosing by symptoms.

Janie in sunny, beautiful Colorado, though I am seeing pics of

Montana and drooling

[Guest guest]

> Actually I am striving for a 0 TSH!!!

Earlier this year, I was on 2 1/4 grains. Had fantastic energy and

stamina, but felt like I still had some other lingering symptoms. So

I decided to inch towards 3 grains...1/4 grain at a time. I had

always dosed by labwork, which I see as helpful when you are first

starting out on Armour, but decided to dose totally by symptoms.

When I got to 3 grains and held it, I felt fantastic. And

then....out of curiousity....I did labs. My TSH was .009. No hyper.

Just symptoms of feeling great!! This is where I became a believer

of dosing by symptoms.

Janie in sunny, beautiful Colorado, though I am seeing pics of

Montana and drooling