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Here is my results from 2/22/10 which was taken before aldosterone and

not on the same day.

Sodium 139 135-145

potassium 3.7 3.5-5.2

I do supplement them but equally. I prepare one big jug of water daily with a

small amount of equal parts sea salt/ potassium chloride.

I just found that this hydrates me very well.

I tested aldosterone alone and not renin. I now realize that I might have to do

it over w/ renin, sodium, potassium.

Although I must say while testing is a great tool it is not always a definitive

marker because when I tested my b12 my doc commented how good my levels were and

that people strive for my numbers-only to find out later after an intracellular

test that I was low. The same thing happened with serum iron to me - so i now am

careful & look at the big picture and not just numbers. I also wonder if there

is a problem w/ the aldosterone making it to the receptor site.

Lastly, on rare occasions (according to the research I've done) this can

indicate a tumor on adrenals or be due to chronic kidney or liver disease.

-- In RT3_T3 , " pricklefoot3 " wrote:

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> You said your Potassium & Sodium were normal.

> Exactly what were the results & how long ago tested?

> Do you usually supp either one?

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> Didn't you also test Sodium & Potassium at same time as the Aldo & Renin?

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> Lethal Lee

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> > > >> I too had high Aldosterone( and the dizzness) My dr. was stumped. The

best explanation he gave me was maybe it was because I am a runner. I think that

was the only thought he had at the moment.

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> > > >> pretty normal- then I took my aldosterone making sure to follow

instructions and I am at 33 with a range of 1-16. How can I have high

aldosterone, low BP, dizzy upon standing and a history of low adrenals??

> > > >> I am totally confused.

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Suzanne...Your comment about ferritin being low in runners got me thinking. I

did a recent test in February after I stopped running and my ferritin level was

123. I did another test in March of this year and my level was 78. When I look

back at my older labs, when I was running, I see that in 1996 it was 39 and in

Feb 2009 it was 36. I did not start iron supplements...the only change is that I

have stopped running. A recent iron panel showed high iron levels, which I need

to call my liver specialist about, because they have me concerned. Anyway, since

the rest of my iron levels are in the high range I think that rules out

inflammation causing the ferritin levels to be up. Seems odd that my ferritin

level went from being so low to what it is now. Could that really be from

running?

I think I must have been on the brink of my adrenal issues, and then had my two

kids in two years. I nursed my first for 18 months, nursed my second for a year,

was running the entire time, and did the marathon a year after my second

daughter was born. I'm sure all of that on top of my undiagnosed hypothyroidism

is what I did my adrenals in. Not sure when the RT3 problem occurred. It may

have been before that or because of that. I have had symptoms of hypothyroidism

for over 20 years it just didn't get really severe until after my second

daughter was born. I actually felt ok until I stopped nursing her...I think that

some how the oxytocin or other hormones produced when nursing must have helped

in some way, cuz I didn't crash hard until I stopped nursing. Or maybe I was

just living on adrenaline at that point. I don't know, but I came crashing down

hard.

Yes, My doc did run labs for the estrogen. My Estrodial was 40.4 the range the

lab gave is actually huge, but he says he likes to see it above the 90-100

pg/ml. He said that levels above this range, up to about 200 is what he would

like them at. The sex hormone thing is very new for me, so am a little

apprehensive about it. Especially since the adrenals and thyroid issues could be

causing the deficiency. I need to do a little more research in this area.

I'm still not sure what is causing the palps and I still have them. They do seem

to be cyclical, but not sure if that is relevant or not. I think it could be the

sex hormones, it could be the hypothyroidism, it could be the magnesium

deficiency. I'm really not sure.

Hopefully we'll get all this stuff figured out and back to feeling good.

--Steph

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> > > >> I too had high Aldosterone( and the dizzness) My dr. was

stumped. The best explanation he gave me was maybe it was because I am a runner.

I think that was the only thought he had at the moment.

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> > > >> If you find an answer please let me know. S

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> > > >> pretty normal- then I took my aldosterone making sure to follow

instructions and I am at 33 with a range of 1-16. How can I have high

aldosterone, low BP, dizzy upon standing and a history of low adrenals??

> > > >> I am totally confused.

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Wow Suzanne, that is pretty interesting how similar our stories sound.

I definitely want to hear how your experiment goes. I'm also going to see if I

can find any more info on the ferritin and running. I did find this link, which

has some interesting info:

http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/hs/coachscorner/20051215.html

I haven't read too much on this board about how to get ferritin up since my

seems to be normal now, but in the article he says:

" With our athletes, we have noticed significantly faster and more dramatic

results among those who are supplementing with ferrous sulfate or ferrous

gluconate elixir and ascorbic acid than with those who have taken iron tablets. "

Might be worth asking your doc about or asking Val about.

--Steph

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> Suzanne...Your comment about ferritin being low in runners got me thinking. I

did a recent test in February after I stopped running and my ferritin level was

123. I did another test in March of this year and my level was 78. When I look

back at my older labs, when I was running, I see that in 1996 it was 39 and in

Feb 2009 it was 36. I did not start iron supplements. ..the only change is that

I have stopped running. A recent iron panel showed high iron levels, which I

need to call my liver specialist about, because they have me concerned. Anyway,

since the rest of my iron levels are in the high range I think that rules out

inflammation causing the ferritin levels to be up. Seems odd that my ferritin

level went from being so low to what it is now. Could that really be from

running?

>  

> Well, I am doing my own experiment with ferritin and running. I have tested

ferritin while running with no iron supplements. Results are always in the 20's

or 30's. I stopped running and started supplementing iron and after six weeks

my ferritin went to 65! So now I am doing the same dose of iron supplement and

have started running again. In just a few short weeks I will test ferritin and

see how I am holding. I am hoping it will tell me I can run  and know that my

ferritin will stay in a good place with supplements! I will let you know how it

turns out.

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> I think I must have been on the brink of my adrenal issues, and then had my

two kids in two years. I nursed my first for 18 months, nursed my second for a

year, was running the entire time, and did the marathon a year after my second

daughter was born. I'm sure all of that on top of my undiagnosed hypothyroidism

is what I did my adrenals in. Not sure when the RT3 problem occurred. It may

have been before that or because of that. I have had symptoms of hypothyroidism

for over 20 years it just didn't get really severe until after my second

daughter was born. I actually felt ok until I stopped nursing her...I think that

some how the oxytocin or other hormones produced when nursing must have helped

in some way, cuz I didn't crash hard until I stopped nursing. Or maybe I was

just living on adrenaline at that point. I don't know, but I came crashing down

hard.

> Too crazy! This is EXACTLY when I started having my symptoms. I think we are

" on to something " . I saw it but ignored it when I stopped nursing my second

baby. However, once I stopped nursing my third there was no way to ignore all

that went haywire. It was also at a time when I was running a lot. I got a " bug "

to train a little differently. I wanted to run shorter, faster races instead of

the longer, slower ones. I just pushed my body more than it thought was

reasonable at the time. I took for granted the task of having babies and

nursing. I should have waited for the more competitive running futher down the

road.

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> I'm still not sure what is causing the palps and I still have them. They do

seem to be cyclical, but not sure if that is relevant or not. I think it could

be the sex hormones, it could be the hypothyroidism, it could be the magnesium

deficiency. I'm really not sure.

>

> My palps were always around the beginning of my cycle. I thought it was low

estrogen. They are gone now and I am not supplementing E. I think it might be

the t3 helping?

> Maybe between both of our experiences we can come up with some interesting

research. S

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