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Wow I must have missed something while I was offline for a few days

recouping from surgery!! I agree with Martha about a big controversy

starting over hurt feelings and words being misconstrued. Sexuality

changes big time after weight loss surgery and I for one like the

feeling of being able to express it in here and get some honest

advice. If I was looking for a religous point of view I would go to

my priest. WLS changes sooooo many aspects of our lives and we should

be able to discuss them. If we dont like what some one is saying,

state your different opinion, or hit the delete button. If I had a

question about sexuality issues I would want a variety of experiences

shared so I could glean from them what works for me and what doesnt.

Huggles

> Ramona, dear, puh-leeeeease.

>

> Perhaps you don't know that this list has been here before in just

the

> last few months. Someone said something; someone else took offense;

> there was some (well-intended) censorship, many disagreements with

that,

> major hurt feelings, and anyone who wasn't dead or a bloodless

zombie

> became afraid to express themselves openly on this list for fear of

> offending or getting censored.

>

> People left the list in droves, and then we decided that WLS is a

BIG

> WIDE TOPIC with room for all of us (yes, even non-Christian sex

> maniacs... Like me). Censorship was stopped with the understanding

that

> no frank obscenity or nastiness would be tolerated. Some people

> returned, but a lot of people went elsewhere to lists that don't

give a

> s--t what you say as long as it relates to WLS and personal growth.

>

> Outta the closet: I used to go out with a porn writer. My best

friend is

> a trans-gendered queer person. I'm Buddhist, I'm a nurse, I'm 51,

I've

> done sex education for cancer patients and AIDs home care. NOTHING

> shocks me. I will put up with quite a lot if others will welcome and

> appreciate the wild kind of experience I bring to this group.

>

>

> On most lists I belong to, really nasty people get told off by the

> civilized types, so most lists self-regulate that way. Otherwise, if

> you're offended by posts, I say use the Delete key. Delete, delete,

> delete.

> Martha

>

>

> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:11:32 EDT, sweetgemlady656@a... said:

> > TO the person regarding this Email:

> > I don't believe that this is appropriate for this group.

> > Please refain from these types of emails.

> > Ramona

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Martha....

Couldn't have said it better myself....so I won't. You go girl.

For the record I appreciate having an " uncensored " place to express

myself regarding ALL wls issues and I'm jealouse that I've never been

invited to a passion party !!!

Regards

Gordy

88 cubes away from WLS

> Ramona, dear, puh-leeeeease.

>

> Perhaps you don't know that this list has been here before in just

the

> last few months. Someone said something; someone else took offense;

> there was some (well-intended) censorship, many disagreements with

that,

> major hurt feelings, and anyone who wasn't dead or a bloodless

zombie

> became afraid to express themselves openly on this list for fear of

> offending or getting censored.

>

> People left the list in droves, and then we decided that WLS is a

BIG

> WIDE TOPIC with room for all of us (yes, even non-Christian sex

> maniacs... Like me). Censorship was stopped with the understanding

that

> no frank obscenity or nastiness would be tolerated. Some people

> returned, but a lot of people went elsewhere to lists that don't

give a

> s--t what you say as long as it relates to WLS and personal growth.

>

> Outta the closet: I used to go out with a porn writer. My best

friend is

> a trans-gendered queer person. I'm Buddhist, I'm a nurse, I'm 51,

I've

> done sex education for cancer patients and AIDs home care. NOTHING

> shocks me. I will put up with quite a lot if others will welcome and

> appreciate the wild kind of experience I bring to this group.

>

>

> On most lists I belong to, really nasty people get told off by the

> civilized types, so most lists self-regulate that way. Otherwise, if

> you're offended by posts, I say use the Delete key. Delete, delete,

> delete.

> Martha

>

>

> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:11:32 EDT, sweetgemlady656@a... said:

> > TO the person regarding this Email:

> > I don't believe that this is appropriate for this group.

> > Please refain from these types of emails.

> > Ramona

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Hi all,

Don't know what this is all about but I have to say I agree with the delete key advice. If this is on the passion part issue, I went to one recently and found it totally offensive. I waited till a discreet moment and left the other guests to enjoy themselves--same concept as the delete key. When I saw the subject line on passion parties, I just hit delete because it is not something I'm interested in at this point in my life. I joined this list fully expecting to meet diverse people and different points of view. I'll be 47 tomorrow and I've learned that not everyone shares my point of view or morals (oh surprise, surprise!) but then again, so what? If I don't like what I'm readng DELETE!!

Chris

Gordy wrote:

Martha....Couldn't have said it better myself....so I won't. You go girl.For the record I appreciate having an "uncensored" place to express myself regarding ALL wls issues and I'm jealouse that I've never been invited to a passion party !!!RegardsGordy88 cubes away from WLS> Ramona, dear, puh-leeeeease.> > Perhaps you don't know that this list has been here before in just the> last few months. Someone said something; someone else took offense;> there was some (well-intended) censorship, many disagreements with that,> major hurt feelings, and anyone who wasn't dead or a bloodless zombie> became afraid to express themselves openly on this list for fear

of> offending or getting censored. > > People left the list in droves, and then we decided that WLS is a BIG> WIDE TOPIC with room for all of us (yes, even non-Christian sex> maniacs... Like me). Censorship was stopped with the understanding that> no frank obscenity or nastiness would be tolerated. Some people> returned, but a lot of people went elsewhere to lists that don't give a> s--t what you say as long as it relates to WLS and personal growth.> > Outta the closet: I used to go out with a porn writer. My best friend is> a trans-gendered queer person. I'm Buddhist, I'm a nurse, I'm 51, I've> done sex education for cancer patients and AIDs home care. NOTHING> shocks me. I will put up with quite a lot if others will welcome and> appreciate the wild kind of experience I bring to this group. > > > On most lists I belong to, really nasty

people get told off by the> civilized types, so most lists self-regulate that way. Otherwise, if> you're offended by posts, I say use the Delete key. Delete, delete,> delete. > Martha> > > On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:11:32 EDT, sweetgemlady656@a... said:> > TO the person regarding this Email:> > I don't believe that this is appropriate for this group.> > Please refain from these types of emails.> > Ramona

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I knew I liked you, Martha!!! : - )

- Lesa -

GET OVER IT

Ramona, dear, puh-leeeeease.

Perhaps you don't know that this list has been

here before in just the

last few months. Someone said something; someone

else took offense;

there was some (well-intended) censorship, many

disagreements with that,

major hurt feelings, and anyone who wasn't dead or

a bloodless zombie

became afraid to express themselves openly on this

list for fear of

offending or getting censored.

People left the list in droves, and then we

decided that WLS is a BIG

WIDE TOPIC with room for all of us (yes, even

non-Christian sex

maniacs... Like me). Censorship was stopped with

the understanding that

no frank obscenity or nastiness would be

tolerated. Some people

returned, but a lot of people went elsewhere to

lists that don't give a

s--t what you say as long as it relates to WLS and

personal growth.

Outta the closet: I used to go out with a porn

writer. My best friend is

a trans-gendered queer person. I'm Buddhist, I'm a

nurse, I'm 51, I've

done sex education for cancer patients and AIDs

home care. NOTHING

shocks me. I will put up with quite a lot if

others will welcome and

appreciate the wild kind of experience I bring to

this group.

On most lists I belong to, really nasty people get

told off by the

civilized types, so most lists self-regulate that

way. Otherwise, if

you're offended by posts, I say use the Delete

key. Delete, delete,

delete.

Martha

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:11:32 EDT,

sweetgemlady656@... said:

> TO the person regarding this Email:

> I don't believe that this is appropriate for

this group.

> Please refain from these types of

emails.

> Ramona

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I knew I liked you, Martha!!! : - )

- Lesa -

GET OVER IT

Ramona, dear, puh-leeeeease.

Perhaps you don't know that this list has been

here before in just the

last few months. Someone said something; someone

else took offense;

there was some (well-intended) censorship, many

disagreements with that,

major hurt feelings, and anyone who wasn't dead or

a bloodless zombie

became afraid to express themselves openly on this

list for fear of

offending or getting censored.

People left the list in droves, and then we

decided that WLS is a BIG

WIDE TOPIC with room for all of us (yes, even

non-Christian sex

maniacs... Like me). Censorship was stopped with

the understanding that

no frank obscenity or nastiness would be

tolerated. Some people

returned, but a lot of people went elsewhere to

lists that don't give a

s--t what you say as long as it relates to WLS and

personal growth.

Outta the closet: I used to go out with a porn

writer. My best friend is

a trans-gendered queer person. I'm Buddhist, I'm a

nurse, I'm 51, I've

done sex education for cancer patients and AIDs

home care. NOTHING

shocks me. I will put up with quite a lot if

others will welcome and

appreciate the wild kind of experience I bring to

this group.

On most lists I belong to, really nasty people get

told off by the

civilized types, so most lists self-regulate that

way. Otherwise, if

you're offended by posts, I say use the Delete

key. Delete, delete,

delete.

Martha

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:11:32 EDT,

sweetgemlady656@... said:

> TO the person regarding this Email:

> I don't believe that this is appropriate for

this group.

> Please refain from these types of

emails.

> Ramona

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LOL Gordy – you could host a “couples”

party! : - )

- Lesa -

Re: GET OVER IT

Martha....

Couldn't have said it better myself....so I

won't. You go girl.

For the record I appreciate having an

" uncensored " place to express

myself regarding ALL wls issues and I'm jealouse

that I've never been

invited to a passion party !!!

Regards

Gordy

88 cubes away from WLS

> Ramona, dear, puh-leeeeease.

>

> Perhaps you don't know that this list has

been here before in just

the

> last few months. Someone said something;

someone else took offense;

> there was some (well-intended) censorship,

many disagreements with

that,

> major hurt feelings, and anyone who wasn't

dead or a bloodless

zombie

> became afraid to express themselves openly on

this list for fear of

> offending or getting censored.

>

> People left the list in droves, and then we

decided that WLS is a

BIG

> WIDE TOPIC with room for all of us (yes, even

non-Christian sex

> maniacs... Like me). Censorship was stopped

with the understanding

that

> no frank obscenity or nastiness would be

tolerated. Some people

> returned, but a lot of people went elsewhere

to lists that don't

give a

> s--t what you say as long as it relates to

WLS and personal growth.

>

> Outta the closet: I used to go out with a

porn writer. My best

friend is

> a trans-gendered queer person. I'm Buddhist,

I'm a nurse, I'm 51,

I've

> done sex education for cancer patients and

AIDs home care. NOTHING

> shocks me. I will put up with quite a lot if

others will welcome and

> appreciate the wild kind of experience I

bring to this group.

>

>

> On most lists I belong to, really nasty

people get told off by the

> civilized types, so most lists self-regulate

that way. Otherwise, if

> you're offended by posts, I say use the

Delete key. Delete, delete,

> delete.

> Martha

>

>

> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:11:32 EDT,

sweetgemlady656@a... said:

> > TO the person regarding this Email:

> > I don't believe that this is appropriate

for this group.

> > Please refain from these types of

emails.

> > Ramona

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LOL Gordy – you could host a “couples”

party! : - )

- Lesa -

Re: GET OVER IT

Martha....

Couldn't have said it better myself....so I

won't. You go girl.

For the record I appreciate having an

" uncensored " place to express

myself regarding ALL wls issues and I'm jealouse

that I've never been

invited to a passion party !!!

Regards

Gordy

88 cubes away from WLS

> Ramona, dear, puh-leeeeease.

>

> Perhaps you don't know that this list has

been here before in just

the

> last few months. Someone said something;

someone else took offense;

> there was some (well-intended) censorship,

many disagreements with

that,

> major hurt feelings, and anyone who wasn't

dead or a bloodless

zombie

> became afraid to express themselves openly on

this list for fear of

> offending or getting censored.

>

> People left the list in droves, and then we

decided that WLS is a

BIG

> WIDE TOPIC with room for all of us (yes, even

non-Christian sex

> maniacs... Like me). Censorship was stopped

with the understanding

that

> no frank obscenity or nastiness would be

tolerated. Some people

> returned, but a lot of people went elsewhere

to lists that don't

give a

> s--t what you say as long as it relates to

WLS and personal growth.

>

> Outta the closet: I used to go out with a

porn writer. My best

friend is

> a trans-gendered queer person. I'm Buddhist,

I'm a nurse, I'm 51,

I've

> done sex education for cancer patients and

AIDs home care. NOTHING

> shocks me. I will put up with quite a lot if

others will welcome and

> appreciate the wild kind of experience I

bring to this group.

>

>

> On most lists I belong to, really nasty

people get told off by the

> civilized types, so most lists self-regulate

that way. Otherwise, if

> you're offended by posts, I say use the

Delete key. Delete, delete,

> delete.

> Martha

>

>

> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:11:32 EDT,

sweetgemlady656@a... said:

> > TO the person regarding this Email:

> > I don't believe that this is appropriate

for this group.

> > Please refain from these types of

emails.

> > Ramona

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I was afraid to respond to the post about this not being the place

to talk about a party for adult orientated material because I am new

and didnt want to get anyone mad at me... but I changed my mind.

I understand that some people might be uncomfortable with sexuality.

But some might be offended by talk of poop too. Both are natural

human fuctions.

If we cant speak freely then what is the point of this group? If you

dont like it, just hit delete and go on to the next post.

I for one would think alot of women and men would love to buy

lingerie or adult products to celebrate their new bodies. I know I

would feel a bit more sexy.

I actually know a lady that had never been intimate because of her

weight and her feelings about her body. She had WLS and she loves

her new body and is now engaged... she is 42 years old.

Just my opinion.

Kym :)

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Martha-

I agree totally, all these things are facts of life and so many

things change with this surgery, not just the numbers on the scale.

People may think they are all alone in thier feelings about sex or

relationships and come to find out if they post something on it here,

a bunch of people can relate (I am thinking of gemello and his

relationship struggles of recent)and may have been too shy to post

things. Most of the time is opens up a great topic of conversation. I

think for the most part people should take want they can from the

group...you dont have to agree with everything that is being

discussed...move on to the next post if you arent interested in the

topic or it doesnt apply to you. People take things WAY too

seriously....just because people talk about sex or god or whatever,

its not a personal attack on your beliefs, they are just facts of

life that some of us are or might in the future be dealing with...we

come from a wide background (no pun intended)with diverse beliefs but

we are here to support each other on this journey which affects so

many aspects of our lives. JMHO

Shanna

> Ramona, dear, puh-leeeeease.

>

> Perhaps you don't know that this list has been here before in just

the

> last few months. Someone said something; someone else took offense;

> there was some (well-intended) censorship, many disagreements with

that,

> major hurt feelings, and anyone who wasn't dead or a bloodless

zombie

> became afraid to express themselves openly on this list for fear of

> offending or getting censored.

>

> People left the list in droves, and then we decided that WLS is a

BIG

> WIDE TOPIC with room for all of us (yes, even non-Christian sex

> maniacs... Like me). Censorship was stopped with the understanding

that

> no frank obscenity or nastiness would be tolerated. Some people

> returned, but a lot of people went elsewhere to lists that don't

give a

> s--t what you say as long as it relates to WLS and personal growth.

>

> Outta the closet: I used to go out with a porn writer. My best

friend is

> a trans-gendered queer person. I'm Buddhist, I'm a nurse, I'm 51,

I've

> done sex education for cancer patients and AIDs home care. NOTHING

> shocks me. I will put up with quite a lot if others will welcome and

> appreciate the wild kind of experience I bring to this group.

>

>

> On most lists I belong to, really nasty people get told off by the

> civilized types, so most lists self-regulate that way. Otherwise, if

> you're offended by posts, I say use the Delete key. Delete, delete,

> delete.

> Martha

>

>

> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:11:32 EDT, sweetgemlady656@a... said:

> > TO the person regarding this Email:

> > I don't believe that this is appropriate for this group.

> > Please refain from these types of emails.

> > Ramona

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Martha-

I agree totally, all these things are facts of life and so many

things change with this surgery, not just the numbers on the scale.

People may think they are all alone in thier feelings about sex or

relationships and come to find out if they post something on it here,

a bunch of people can relate (I am thinking of gemello and his

relationship struggles of recent)and may have been too shy to post

things. Most of the time is opens up a great topic of conversation. I

think for the most part people should take want they can from the

group...you dont have to agree with everything that is being

discussed...move on to the next post if you arent interested in the

topic or it doesnt apply to you. People take things WAY too

seriously....just because people talk about sex or god or whatever,

its not a personal attack on your beliefs, they are just facts of

life that some of us are or might in the future be dealing with...we

come from a wide background (no pun intended)with diverse beliefs but

we are here to support each other on this journey which affects so

many aspects of our lives. JMHO

Shanna

> Ramona, dear, puh-leeeeease.

>

> Perhaps you don't know that this list has been here before in just

the

> last few months. Someone said something; someone else took offense;

> there was some (well-intended) censorship, many disagreements with

that,

> major hurt feelings, and anyone who wasn't dead or a bloodless

zombie

> became afraid to express themselves openly on this list for fear of

> offending or getting censored.

>

> People left the list in droves, and then we decided that WLS is a

BIG

> WIDE TOPIC with room for all of us (yes, even non-Christian sex

> maniacs... Like me). Censorship was stopped with the understanding

that

> no frank obscenity or nastiness would be tolerated. Some people

> returned, but a lot of people went elsewhere to lists that don't

give a

> s--t what you say as long as it relates to WLS and personal growth.

>

> Outta the closet: I used to go out with a porn writer. My best

friend is

> a trans-gendered queer person. I'm Buddhist, I'm a nurse, I'm 51,

I've

> done sex education for cancer patients and AIDs home care. NOTHING

> shocks me. I will put up with quite a lot if others will welcome and

> appreciate the wild kind of experience I bring to this group.

>

>

> On most lists I belong to, really nasty people get told off by the

> civilized types, so most lists self-regulate that way. Otherwise, if

> you're offended by posts, I say use the Delete key. Delete, delete,

> delete.

> Martha

>

>

> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:11:32 EDT, sweetgemlady656@a... said:

> > TO the person regarding this Email:

> > I don't believe that this is appropriate for this group.

> > Please refain from these types of emails.

> > Ramona

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Martha-

I agree totally, all these things are facts of life and so many

things change with this surgery, not just the numbers on the scale.

People may think they are all alone in thier feelings about sex or

relationships and come to find out if they post something on it here,

a bunch of people can relate (I am thinking of gemello and his

relationship struggles of recent)and may have been too shy to post

things. Most of the time is opens up a great topic of conversation. I

think for the most part people should take want they can from the

group...you dont have to agree with everything that is being

discussed...move on to the next post if you arent interested in the

topic or it doesnt apply to you. People take things WAY too

seriously....just because people talk about sex or god or whatever,

its not a personal attack on your beliefs, they are just facts of

life that some of us are or might in the future be dealing with...we

come from a wide background (no pun intended)with diverse beliefs but

we are here to support each other on this journey which affects so

many aspects of our lives. JMHO

Shanna

> Ramona, dear, puh-leeeeease.

>

> Perhaps you don't know that this list has been here before in just

the

> last few months. Someone said something; someone else took offense;

> there was some (well-intended) censorship, many disagreements with

that,

> major hurt feelings, and anyone who wasn't dead or a bloodless

zombie

> became afraid to express themselves openly on this list for fear of

> offending or getting censored.

>

> People left the list in droves, and then we decided that WLS is a

BIG

> WIDE TOPIC with room for all of us (yes, even non-Christian sex

> maniacs... Like me). Censorship was stopped with the understanding

that

> no frank obscenity or nastiness would be tolerated. Some people

> returned, but a lot of people went elsewhere to lists that don't

give a

> s--t what you say as long as it relates to WLS and personal growth.

>

> Outta the closet: I used to go out with a porn writer. My best

friend is

> a trans-gendered queer person. I'm Buddhist, I'm a nurse, I'm 51,

I've

> done sex education for cancer patients and AIDs home care. NOTHING

> shocks me. I will put up with quite a lot if others will welcome and

> appreciate the wild kind of experience I bring to this group.

>

>

> On most lists I belong to, really nasty people get told off by the

> civilized types, so most lists self-regulate that way. Otherwise, if

> you're offended by posts, I say use the Delete key. Delete, delete,

> delete.

> Martha

>

>

> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:11:32 EDT, sweetgemlady656@a... said:

> > TO the person regarding this Email:

> > I don't believe that this is appropriate for this group.

> > Please refain from these types of emails.

> > Ramona

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Okay...I'm finding that there is a fine line between "solicitation" and sincere recommendations. That will make the moderator's job more difficult. I am grateful that others have suggested companies, products, and web sites on this list...so there are more gray areas than not. Tough job - and no easy answers.

Frustrating!

Laurie W.

Re: Re: GET OVER IT

HI Martha and everyone else,

The reason for my response to the email was not so much as to the subject but as to the fact that to me it seemed that the person was looking to sell something. You all may think what you may but that was the only concern that I had I look at our home page and it does state there about not using the group site to get clients.

2. NO advertising, soliciting, or looking for customers. However, all members are encouraged to discuss their experiences (pro and con) with a particular program and/or a particular product.

From what I understood about those type of parties it is also so that you will be purchasing from the person who is giving this party. This was my only concern. After reading a few of the emails that people have sent in regard to my email I am considering leaving the group. I don't know what the original email said because I never saw it but I guess we interpret the rules to fit our own needs. I don't believe that I was being a prude or what every you may think. Nor are there any hurt feelings about the feedback As moderator I take my job seriously for the better of the group.

Ramona

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Ramona: I am so sorry I didn't write supporting you in the beginning. I knew

you were one of our moderators. I too thought this party sounded like things

would be for sale, so I understood your motives completely. Being just a week

pre-op, other subjects are first on my mind, so I just used the delete key

freely and frequently. No member of this group, certainly not one who has

contributed so generously for so long, should be subject to the verbal

pummeling you were. I appreciate the work you do, and implore you, please, Do

NOT LEAVE the group. Were I you, I'd probably resign as moderator and leave

that work to someone else, but I hope you will not even do that. This group is

as good as it is because you are one of its leaders. Thank you for all you do.

Pat

Pre-Op in SoCA

Quoting sweetgemlady656@...:

> HI Martha and everyone else,

> The reason for my response to the email was not so much as to the subject

> but as to the fact that to me it seemed that the person was looking to sell

> something. You all may think what you may but that was the only concern that

> I

> had I look at our home page and it does state there about not using the

> group

> site to get clients.

> 2. NO advertising, soliciting, or looking for customers. However, all

> members are encouraged to discuss their experiences (pro and con) with a

> particular

> program and/or a particular product.

> From what I understood about those type of parties it is also so that you

> will be purchasing from the person who is giving this party. This was my

> only

> concern. After reading a few of the emails that people have sent in regard

> to

> my email I am considering leaving the group. I don't know what the original

> email said because I never saw it but I guess we interpret the rules to fit

> our own needs. I don't believe that I was being a prude or what every you

> may

> think. Nor are there any hurt feelings about the feedback As moderator I

> take

> my job seriously for the better of the group.

> Ramona

>

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Actually if you go back and LOOK through the posts, you will see that

NOWHERE, at ANYTIME, did ANYONE, post about the party. It was posted

on another list where there is not a rule about solicitation. Then

someone asked HERE, what is this type of party and can preops attend.

All I did was explain that YES anyone can attend, the caveat being no

children, and you must be female over 18. I can't even see a deleted

post prior to the post asking what a passion party is, and since the

person who is cohosting the party with me would NEVER post the party

on THIS board, the only mention of the party came from a post asking

what one was and could a preop attend. NO solicitating was done and

if you don't know which group to look at, you still dont know when

the party is. Yet MY post in response to what a passion party is was

deleted, and one can only assume then if there was no soliciting,

that the content itself was offensive. I also can't find Ramona's

initial post that says it was offensive. The history of this list

shows a total of TWO posts that were deleted after the initial post

asking what a passion party is, 13400 and 13403... assuming those are

my response to the post asking what one was, and Ramona's post saying

the post was offensive, then nothing else has been deleted, meaning

the party information was NEVER posted here. If I posted the

information for the party, told you when it was, and what time to be

there, and all the details, that would be soliciting. Therefore the

post that it was " offensive " should have specifically said there is a

no soliciting rule in which case you would have my response above, so

that it isn't assumed that " offensive " means because of the sexual

content. Prohibited would have been a better term to use. I was

simply answering a question that someone specifically addressed on

THIS board.

All that said, Ramona, please don't feel the need to leave... the

censorship is NOT an issue that anyone has with you, its with the

fact that this board once again is being moderated WITHOUT warning or

contacting of " offending " members. If I had received an email that

said " Hey , great you're telling this person what a passion

party is, but next time, don't mention that you're having one okay " ,

that would have been fine with me. As a once fat person, if someone

else is having fun and Im not invited, I want to know why... the

response was simply to say no you aren't being told you can't come,

and this is what we're doing.

> HI Martha and everyone else,

> The reason for my response to the email was not so much as to the

subject

> but as to the fact that to me it seemed that the person was looking

to sell

> something. You all may think what you may but that was the only

concern that I

> had I look at our home page and it does state there about not using

the group

> site to get clients.

> 2. NO advertising, soliciting, or looking for customers. However,

all

> members are encouraged to discuss their experiences (pro and con)

with a particular

> program and/or a particular product.

> From what I understood about those type of parties it is also so

that you

> will be purchasing from the person who is giving this party. This

was my only

> concern. After reading a few of the emails that people have sent in

regard to

> my email I am considering leaving the group. I don't know what the

original

> email said because I never saw it but I guess we interpret the

rules to fit

> our own needs. I don't believe that I was being a prude or what

every you may

> think. Nor are there any hurt feelings about the feedback As

moderator I take

> my job seriously for the better of the group.

> Ramona

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