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Liz,

I take Naturethroid (2 grains) with 25 mcg of Cytomel daily as suggested by

Val, based on my labs. I am feeling great for the first time in a couple of

years. My Vit D is great, my Ferritin is great but I do still have a minimal

amount of work to do on the adrenals. So, yes it does work if all the other

ingredients are optimal.

As for your sweating, I question it being caused by a combination of thyroid

medications. Having lived in mostly southern climates all my life, it's the

humidity that causes excessive sweating, especially in South America. The

temps can be moderate and very enjoyable but add in the humidity and if you

are not use to this climate, it will certainly play havoc with your body.

Sharing your latest labs with Val or Nick would be your best place to start

in combining NT with Cytomel.

Best Wishes,

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Thanks

Thanks for the reply

Were you on cytomel only before the combination? How and when did you get the

RT3 problem and do you have any theories about why the naturethroid is not

causing it to return? In my case, I was on cytomel alone first, then upon

switching to naturethroid for the first time I got RT3 symptoms for the first

time, which led to my needing much higher doses of cytomel subsequently than I

needed before the naturethroid. So I am nervous that the naturethroid will throw

me off again, but I really want to try.

The humidity is definitely what makes the sweating bad, but it was not this bad

until after I started cytomel, so I am pretty sure the two things are related.

However, it may be that simply not being hypothyroid has brought out a latent

sweating tendency that I already had. It is so bad that I have to bring a change

of clothes with me when I am out in hot weather. Arg.

Liz

I will try and fish out my labs and post them again

>

> Liz,

>

> I take Naturethroid (2 grains) with 25 mcg of Cytomel daily as suggested by

> Val, based on my labs. I am feeling great for the first time in a couple of

> years. My Vit D is great, my Ferritin is great but I do still have a minimal

> amount of work to do on the adrenals. So, yes it does work if all the other

> ingredients are optimal.

>

> As for your sweating, I question it being caused by a combination of thyroid

> medications. Having lived in mostly southern climates all my life, it's the

> humidity that causes excessive sweating, especially in South America. The

> temps can be moderate and very enjoyable but add in the humidity and if you

> are not use to this climate, it will certainly play havoc with your body.

>

> Sharing your latest labs with Val or Nick would be your best place to start

> in combining NT with Cytomel.

>

> Best Wishes,

>

>

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Thanks

Thanks for the reply

Were you on cytomel only before the combination? How and when did you get the

RT3 problem and do you have any theories about why the naturethroid is not

causing it to return? In my case, I was on cytomel alone first, then upon

switching to naturethroid for the first time I got RT3 symptoms for the first

time, which led to my needing much higher doses of cytomel subsequently than I

needed before the naturethroid. So I am nervous that the naturethroid will throw

me off again, but I really want to try.

The humidity is definitely what makes the sweating bad, but it was not this bad

until after I started cytomel, so I am pretty sure the two things are related.

However, it may be that simply not being hypothyroid has brought out a latent

sweating tendency that I already had. It is so bad that I have to bring a change

of clothes with me when I am out in hot weather. Arg.

Liz

I will try and fish out my labs and post them again

>

> Liz,

>

> I take Naturethroid (2 grains) with 25 mcg of Cytomel daily as suggested by

> Val, based on my labs. I am feeling great for the first time in a couple of

> years. My Vit D is great, my Ferritin is great but I do still have a minimal

> amount of work to do on the adrenals. So, yes it does work if all the other

> ingredients are optimal.

>

> As for your sweating, I question it being caused by a combination of thyroid

> medications. Having lived in mostly southern climates all my life, it's the

> humidity that causes excessive sweating, especially in South America. The

> temps can be moderate and very enjoyable but add in the humidity and if you

> are not use to this climate, it will certainly play havoc with your body.

>

> Sharing your latest labs with Val or Nick would be your best place to start

> in combining NT with Cytomel.

>

> Best Wishes,

>

>

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hey, just wondering why you would want to start introducing T4 back in the mix

if the point of t3 only is to suppress all Rt3 procuction, which comes from t4.

just curious...

wonder if your sweating issue is actually a low aldosterone issue, brought to

light by the t3 only... as aldosterone has everything to do with

fluid/potassium/sodium regulation in your body.

if you had stressed adrenals, even if you support them with HC, the HC does not

address the aldosterone issue.... therefore as you raise the t3, beat up

adrenals start showing, including such low aldosterone symptoms as sweating.

i myself have had sweating issues on and off before and during my journey, and

have seen others with the issue, and it seems to usually be linked to

aldosterone, more specifically " salt wasting. " back when STTM had forums, there

were a lot of people on the adrenals page with the issue who found relief from

the heat intolerance/excessive sweating once the got their aldosterone levels in

check with fludrocortisone. personally, i know i have weakened adrenals, and

have supported them with HC... but the sweating thing is still " abnormal " on and

off (say i start working out, once i start sweating its like someone turns a

faucet on, gotten better, but still sweat a lot). think it makes sense that if

my adrenals were straind then my aldosterone levels would suffer right along

with my cortisol levels, but its just too big a can of worms for me to open

right now...

aNyway, just my two sense... your sweating issue could be adrenal related....

just dont see the need to add T4 back in there if you already know you have an

Rt3 issue, dont see how that would help your situation at all...

> >

> > Liz,

> >

> > I take Naturethroid (2 grains) with 25 mcg of Cytomel daily as suggested by

> > Val, based on my labs. I am feeling great for the first time in a couple of

> > years. My Vit D is great, my Ferritin is great but I do still have a minimal

> > amount of work to do on the adrenals. So, yes it does work if all the other

> > ingredients are optimal.

> >

> > As for your sweating, I question it being caused by a combination of thyroid

> > medications. Having lived in mostly southern climates all my life, it's the

> > humidity that causes excessive sweating, especially in South America. The

> > temps can be moderate and very enjoyable but add in the humidity and if you

> > are not use to this climate, it will certainly play havoc with your body.

> >

> > Sharing your latest labs with Val or Nick would be your best place to start

> > in combining NT with Cytomel.

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> >

> >

>

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hey, just wondering why you would want to start introducing T4 back in the mix

if the point of t3 only is to suppress all Rt3 procuction, which comes from t4.

just curious...

wonder if your sweating issue is actually a low aldosterone issue, brought to

light by the t3 only... as aldosterone has everything to do with

fluid/potassium/sodium regulation in your body.

if you had stressed adrenals, even if you support them with HC, the HC does not

address the aldosterone issue.... therefore as you raise the t3, beat up

adrenals start showing, including such low aldosterone symptoms as sweating.

i myself have had sweating issues on and off before and during my journey, and

have seen others with the issue, and it seems to usually be linked to

aldosterone, more specifically " salt wasting. " back when STTM had forums, there

were a lot of people on the adrenals page with the issue who found relief from

the heat intolerance/excessive sweating once the got their aldosterone levels in

check with fludrocortisone. personally, i know i have weakened adrenals, and

have supported them with HC... but the sweating thing is still " abnormal " on and

off (say i start working out, once i start sweating its like someone turns a

faucet on, gotten better, but still sweat a lot). think it makes sense that if

my adrenals were straind then my aldosterone levels would suffer right along

with my cortisol levels, but its just too big a can of worms for me to open

right now...

aNyway, just my two sense... your sweating issue could be adrenal related....

just dont see the need to add T4 back in there if you already know you have an

Rt3 issue, dont see how that would help your situation at all...

> >

> > Liz,

> >

> > I take Naturethroid (2 grains) with 25 mcg of Cytomel daily as suggested by

> > Val, based on my labs. I am feeling great for the first time in a couple of

> > years. My Vit D is great, my Ferritin is great but I do still have a minimal

> > amount of work to do on the adrenals. So, yes it does work if all the other

> > ingredients are optimal.

> >

> > As for your sweating, I question it being caused by a combination of thyroid

> > medications. Having lived in mostly southern climates all my life, it's the

> > humidity that causes excessive sweating, especially in South America. The

> > temps can be moderate and very enjoyable but add in the humidity and if you

> > are not use to this climate, it will certainly play havoc with your body.

> >

> > Sharing your latest labs with Val or Nick would be your best place to start

> > in combining NT with Cytomel.

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> >

> >

>

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hey, just wondering why you would want to start introducing T4 back in the mix

if the point of t3 only is to suppress all Rt3 procuction, which comes from t4.

just curious...

wonder if your sweating issue is actually a low aldosterone issue, brought to

light by the t3 only... as aldosterone has everything to do with

fluid/potassium/sodium regulation in your body.

if you had stressed adrenals, even if you support them with HC, the HC does not

address the aldosterone issue.... therefore as you raise the t3, beat up

adrenals start showing, including such low aldosterone symptoms as sweating.

i myself have had sweating issues on and off before and during my journey, and

have seen others with the issue, and it seems to usually be linked to

aldosterone, more specifically " salt wasting. " back when STTM had forums, there

were a lot of people on the adrenals page with the issue who found relief from

the heat intolerance/excessive sweating once the got their aldosterone levels in

check with fludrocortisone. personally, i know i have weakened adrenals, and

have supported them with HC... but the sweating thing is still " abnormal " on and

off (say i start working out, once i start sweating its like someone turns a

faucet on, gotten better, but still sweat a lot). think it makes sense that if

my adrenals were straind then my aldosterone levels would suffer right along

with my cortisol levels, but its just too big a can of worms for me to open

right now...

aNyway, just my two sense... your sweating issue could be adrenal related....

just dont see the need to add T4 back in there if you already know you have an

Rt3 issue, dont see how that would help your situation at all...

> >

> > Liz,

> >

> > I take Naturethroid (2 grains) with 25 mcg of Cytomel daily as suggested by

> > Val, based on my labs. I am feeling great for the first time in a couple of

> > years. My Vit D is great, my Ferritin is great but I do still have a minimal

> > amount of work to do on the adrenals. So, yes it does work if all the other

> > ingredients are optimal.

> >

> > As for your sweating, I question it being caused by a combination of thyroid

> > medications. Having lived in mostly southern climates all my life, it's the

> > humidity that causes excessive sweating, especially in South America. The

> > temps can be moderate and very enjoyable but add in the humidity and if you

> > are not use to this climate, it will certainly play havoc with your body.

> >

> > Sharing your latest labs with Val or Nick would be your best place to start

> > in combining NT with Cytomel.

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> >

> >

>

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Liz,

I have been on natural thyroid for a while, the old Armour first and then

switched to the Naturethroid several months ago. Previously I was on

Synthroid for years which created a huge problem for me. I noticed during

routine labs that my RT3 was very high, along with high T4 and high T3. It

was suggested that I lower the Naturethroid and add Cytomel into the mix.

My most recent labs show good numbers for T4, T3 and my RT3 has lowered and

my ratio is now almost 16. I am feeling great and will continue the

combination until all the RT3 has cleared and will then gradually wean

myself from the Cytomel to see what happens. It may be that I will need to

continue the Cytomel/Naturethroid indefinitely.

You don't mention what protocol you followed but I am wondering if your

problem started because of reducing or entirely quitting the Cytomel to

quickly. Also you have not mentioned your Adrenals. What is your Cortisol

status as well as Ferritin levels? Both play a huge part in this

rollercoaster we are all riding.

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Hi is

Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I definitely have an aldosterone issue and have just

started florinef, which I am hoping will help. So far, I am still sweating like

crazy, though.

I want to see if my body can handle a little T4 in case there are any benefits

of T4, to bring down my SHBG, and also, to see if my body can convert normally

in small doses. It might not be able to convert, I am just thinking it might be

good to check. However, you might be right in that the aldosterone may be

causing a lot of my problems. I was on 55 mg of HC and I'm now down to 35 mg of

HC on the florinef, which is good. I might wait a while to try the T4...

Liz

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Hi

I actually wondered if I started producing RT3 because I did not gradually taper

off of the cytomel. I also started HC at the same time I started naturethroid,

for weak adrenals, and I am wondering if the HC could have started the RT3

production. My ferritin is low, but iron is relatively high, so I have to be

careful about supplementing too much iron. Adrenals have been weak. I was up to

55 mg of HC, but realized I had an aldosterone issue, then started florinef and

am now down to 35 mg of HC. So, yes, all of these things come in to play, for

sure.

I am so glad you are feeling good!

Liz

>

> Liz,

> I have been on natural thyroid for a while, the old Armour first and then

> switched to the Naturethroid several months ago. Previously I was on

> Synthroid for years which created a huge problem for me. I noticed during

> routine labs that my RT3 was very high, along with high T4 and high T3. It

> was suggested that I lower the Naturethroid and add Cytomel into the mix.

> My most recent labs show good numbers for T4, T3 and my RT3 has lowered and

> my ratio is now almost 16. I am feeling great and will continue the

> combination until all the RT3 has cleared and will then gradually wean

> myself from the Cytomel to see what happens. It may be that I will need to

> continue the Cytomel/Naturethroid indefinitely.

>

> You don't mention what protocol you followed but I am wondering if your

> problem started because of reducing or entirely quitting the Cytomel to

> quickly. Also you have not mentioned your Adrenals. What is your Cortisol

> status as well as Ferritin levels? Both play a huge part in this

> rollercoaster we are all riding.

>

>

>

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Lynn wrote: -How do you dose your t3 with your thyroid?

Just wondering about combinations and tolerance.

Lynn,

I take my Naturethroid first thing at 6:00 am, then take 10mcg Cytomel

around 9:00 am. I take 10mcg Cytomel again around 12-1:00 pm, followed by

5mcg Cytomel around 5pm. This seems to work well for me, I cannot answer

for anyone else. I supplement Magnesium, D3, Vit C, Digestive Enzymes,

CoQ10, Krill Oil, and Adrenal Complex by Quantum Nutrition Labs. I was

taking many other supplements but found it to be too much for my body to

handle. What I am taking now seems to be the proper combination for me.

Hope this helps.

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liz, let us know how it works,

the sweating thing is very annoying at the very least!!!!!

what a rollercoaster we are on!;)

>

> Hi is

> Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I definitely have an aldosterone issue and have

just started florinef, which I am hoping will help. So far, I am still sweating

like crazy, though.

> I want to see if my body can handle a little T4 in case there are any benefits

of T4, to bring down my SHBG, and also, to see if my body can convert normally

in small doses. It might not be able to convert, I am just thinking it might be

good to check. However, you might be right in that the aldosterone may be

causing a lot of my problems. I was on 55 mg of HC and I'm now down to 35 mg of

HC on the florinef, which is good. I might wait a while to try the T4...

> Liz

>

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Cyntia,

I just wonder if you have had a big problems with the adrenals.You have said you

have still work to do on them but you are not taking any HC? Did you have RT3

problem and before going to the combo Natretroid and T3 were you on T3 only to

clear your RT3?

thanks

Milena

-How do you dose your t3 with your thyroid?

> Just wondering about combinations and tolerance.

>

>

> Lynn,

> I take my Naturethroid first thing at 6:00 am, then take 10mcg Cytomel

> around 9:00 am. I take 10mcg Cytomel again around 12-1:00 pm, followed by

> 5mcg Cytomel around 5pm. This seems to work well for me, I cannot answer

> for anyone else. I supplement Magnesium, D3, Vit C, Digestive Enzymes,

> CoQ10, Krill Oil, and Adrenal Complex by Quantum Nutrition Labs. I was

> taking many other supplements but found it to be too much for my body to

> handle. What I am taking now seems to be the proper combination for me.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

>

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