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I went on the Atkins diet about 4 years ago and lost 30 lbs. It was great.

It probably is not the healthiest diet especially in the beginning when all

you are eating is protein. I kept the weight off for over 2 years then

gradually gained some back. Not to where I was but getting close. I don't

think it caused my fibroids. Fibroids seem to be a family affair. LOL Both

my grandmothers had hysts and I have a sister that has had 6 D & C's.

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Hi Ann

Bad news I'm afraid. The bad thing for fibroids are FATS, not carbs! I too

wished to try the Atkins diet, but it won't do me any good.

When taking Xenical, which eliminates 30% of consumed fat in one's diet I

noticed improvement in the fibroids - less bloating, even while pre-menstrual

and during muy period. Generally before that I ate quite a lot of fat in my diet

and was very bloated.

Fran

low carb diet + fibroids

>I have PCOS and fibroids and am confused about juggling my diet. I have been

>reading lately that a low-carb diet is a good way of managing PCOS-related

>insulin resistance. I'm thinking in particular of the plans in The

>Schwarzbein Principle and The Atkins Diet. Does anyone know about the effect

>of such diets on fibroids?

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Ann--I have similar questions. I need to know WHY red meat/dairy stimulate

estrogen. Is it because cows are fed hormones? Even though I don't know

the answer to this, some time back I started drinking only organic/no

hormone milk. There is also organic/no hormone red meat already in stores.

I figure that it can't hurt to eliminate the introduction of hormones into

my system. I haven't spent time researching this issue yet, but I think I

must.

If you cut out dairy, there is always calcium supplements. Fish is great

protein, all kinds of benefits. Nuts have protein and some fibers have

protein. Beans are protein, though probably not on Atkins diet because they

also deliver carbs. Atkins has a web site, www.atkins.com (not sure, do a

search).

Let me know if you find good sources for answers to these questions!

Faryl

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> I have read that red meats and dairy can stimulate estrogen production (?)

>that can increase fibroid growth. I can easily cut out red meat, but how

>can one do a low-carb diet (where the majority of calories are from proteins

>and fat, obviously) without dairy? And what about calcium??

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> I have read that red meats and dairy can stimulate estrogen

production (?) that can increase fibroid growth.

***Think Organic. If you're going to eat red meat you only want

hormone free meats. No added hormones, no hormones in feed, etc.

I can easily cut out red meat, but how can one do a low-carb diet

(where the majority of calories are from proteins and fat, obviously)

***Protein: Organic eggs, fish, hormone free chicken. Fish like

salmon are also good for omega 3 fats. Olive oil is a good fat

choice. Check out nuts and seeds like sesame, almond, brazil, and

pepitas. Example: Raw Pepitas (pumpkin seeds): 4 carbs minus 3

fiber equals 1 net carb for 1/4 cup and has 9 grams of protein.

That's double the protein than you'd get in a serving of pasta!

Sprinkle some of those over your organic salad greens. Aim for low

glycemic carbs, and always read the labels.

without dairy? And what about calcium??

*** Use a calcium supplement.

There's lots more to learn too. Hope this helps get you started.

Gerri

P.S. PCOS is an endocrine issue, so is thyroid. There's a definite

connection. If they haven't already checked your thyroid, you should

really request it.

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We don't need NEAR as much protein as you think. And as far as calcium

goes, Milk is a good source, but the absorbtion rate is much less than

in vegies. Please read " Eat to Live " by Fuhrman, MD before you do

the Atkins diet. It is such a shame that carbs are considered BAD. Yes

white flour & white sugar are BAD, but fresh fruit and whole grains

(still considered carbs) are good for you. And any time you cut these

from your diet, it can't be good for you. No one will ever convince me

that bacon & eggs for breakfast is better for you than fresh fruit. Try

cutting out the overly processed foods and eat more fresh fruits and

vegies. I was just reading how important the liver is in regulation our

hormones. Maybe we should be looking more into maintaining a healhy

liver and see what happens....... oke

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....and we can't do that unless we quit pumping our bodies full of chemicals and

pesticides.

gg

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> We don't need NEAR as much protein as you think. And as far as calcium

> goes, Milk is a good source, but the absorbtion rate is much less than

> in vegies. Please read " Eat to Live " by Fuhrman, MD before you do

> the Atkins diet. It is such a shame that carbs are considered BAD. Yes

> white flour & white sugar are BAD, but fresh fruit and whole grains

> (still considered carbs) are good for you. And any time you cut these

> from your diet, it can't be good for you. No one will ever convince me

> that bacon & eggs for breakfast is better for you than fresh fruit. Try

> cutting out the overly processed foods and eat more fresh fruits and

> vegies. I was just reading how important the liver is in regulation our

> hormones. Maybe we should be looking more into maintaining a healhy

> liver and see what happens....... oke

>

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....and we can't do that unless we quit pumping our bodies full of chemicals and

pesticides.

gg

maryoke@... wrote:

> We don't need NEAR as much protein as you think. And as far as calcium

> goes, Milk is a good source, but the absorbtion rate is much less than

> in vegies. Please read " Eat to Live " by Fuhrman, MD before you do

> the Atkins diet. It is such a shame that carbs are considered BAD. Yes

> white flour & white sugar are BAD, but fresh fruit and whole grains

> (still considered carbs) are good for you. And any time you cut these

> from your diet, it can't be good for you. No one will ever convince me

> that bacon & eggs for breakfast is better for you than fresh fruit. Try

> cutting out the overly processed foods and eat more fresh fruits and

> vegies. I was just reading how important the liver is in regulation our

> hormones. Maybe we should be looking more into maintaining a healhy

> liver and see what happens....... oke

>

>

>

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Ann,

I'm not sure about the diet you are proposing as I don't have personal

experience with it but I know you can avoid a lot of the estrogenic effects

of commercial red meats and dairy if you buy organic produce and grain-fed

meat. (It's related to the high levels of hormones in commercial feed fed to

cattle and insecticides used on produce.) As for calcium, there are quite a

lot of veggies that contain high levels of calcium especially bok choy.

Hope this helps and good luck!

Rhonda

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Thanks to all for your (very quick) advice! I will definitely do some more

research and start eating nuts :-) and stop eating white rice and mashed

potatoes :-(

Some more comments/questions are below (set off with *****):

> Think Organic. If you're going to eat red meat you only want

> hormone free meats. No added hormones, no hormones in feed, etc.

****Are the added hormones the only issue with red meats for women with

fibroids?

> Use a calcium supplement.

****Is there anything wrong with dairy (in moderation, of course)?

****I had heard that calcium supplements are not very efficient ways to get

calcium. Are there some that are more efficient than others?

****Also, what other kinds of supplements do you all suggest? I already take

iron supps and a multivitamin (one-a-day brand). Omega-3? Magnesium?

> P.S. PCOS is an endocrine issue, so is thyroid. There's a definite

> connection. If they haven't already checked your thyroid, you should

> really request it.

Thank you. I have an appt to see an endocrinologist soon. I will definitely

follow this up.

****Finally, I have read that the insulin resistance commonly found in women

with PCOS is similar to type II diabetes. Is there anyone out there who knows

about diet for women with type II diabetes and fibroids?

THANKS!

Ann

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This may be a silly question, but why are fats bad for fibroids? I think I

understand why carbs are bad for me (because of insulin resistance issues), but

don't really get the fats issue, when consumed in moderation with proteins.

Btw, what is Xenical? And is it that one must cut out 30% of fats from one's

diet when taking it, or does it somehow block fat digestion?

Thanks!

Ann

> Hi Ann

>

> Bad news I'm afraid. The bad thing for fibroids are FATS, not carbs! I too

wished to try the Atkins diet, but it won't do me any good.

> When taking Xenical, which eliminates 30% of consumed fat in one's diet I

noticed improvement in the fibroids - less bloating, even while pre-menstrual

and during muy period. Generally before that I ate quite a lot of fat in my diet

and was very bloated.

> Fran

>

> low carb diet + fibroids

> >I have PCOS and fibroids and am confused about juggling my diet. I have been

>reading lately that a low-carb diet is a good way of managing PCOS-related

>insulin resistance. I'm thinking in particular of the plans in The

>Schwarzbein Principle and The Atkins Diet. Does anyone know about the effect

>of such diets on fibroids?

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http://www.mendosa.com/gilists.htm My MD told me about this website. I

have impaired glucose tolerance, which means that if I'm not careful with

diet/exercise I will have diabetes. It runs in my family. This is

supposedly the " definitive " list for glycemic load, something important to

pay attention to if you have impaired glucose tolerance.

Faryl

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Margo--I don't know. I would assume there are similarities, but I haven't

researched/asked an MD.

Faryl

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> Is that the same as insulin resistant?

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