Re: OT- Natural approaches to bone loss

[Guest guest]

>I would like to respond since I know a little about this subject, and have

tried the products myself so I know they work. First of all you will probably

need to supplement with vitamin D, and also calcium. But do not use any calcium,

use chelated or coral calcium for the best absorbtion. Also I have been using

NATURAL progesterone cream for years to help with PMS and for being cold all the

time, but it is also a great thing to actually help build bone. So it has been

used safely and effectively for treating osteoporosis. Make sure it is natural

and have 450mg of progesterone in it. You can get it in any health food stores.

Those are just some suggestions that I have used and know work.

> I am totally new to this subject and I must get a DEXA scan.

> It seems I have significant bone loss (I actually shrank in size. The day I

was

> over 5 feet was a big day and I actually reached over five one and a half!!!)

> Now, I am only 5 feet. We checked on various machines, rulers.

>

> I don't even know how to approach such a subject. I feel I need to let the

diet

> do it's time and once I am better maybe I can start excersizing like gentle

> Yoga.

>

> Is there anything food wise or natural people have done to help with bone loss

> issues.

>

> I have had years and years of malabsorption and Steroid use, so it's no

wonder.

>

> Also, I feel many of my health issues are in direct consequence to using big

> pharma meds for 12 years and I will probably deal with side effects as opposed

> to the disease and illness itself.

> Need to think positive..

>

> Jodi

>

[Guest guest]

>I would like to respond since I know a little about this subject, and have

tried the products myself so I know they work. First of all you will probably

need to supplement with vitamin D, and also calcium. But do not use any calcium,

use chelated or coral calcium for the best absorbtion. Also I have been using

NATURAL progesterone cream for years to help with PMS and for being cold all the

time, but it is also a great thing to actually help build bone. So it has been

used safely and effectively for treating osteoporosis. Make sure it is natural

and have 450mg of progesterone in it. You can get it in any health food stores.

Those are just some suggestions that I have used and know work.

> I am totally new to this subject and I must get a DEXA scan.

> It seems I have significant bone loss (I actually shrank in size. The day I

was

> over 5 feet was a big day and I actually reached over five one and a half!!!)

> Now, I am only 5 feet. We checked on various machines, rulers.

>

> I don't even know how to approach such a subject. I feel I need to let the

diet

> do it's time and once I am better maybe I can start excersizing like gentle

> Yoga.

>

> Is there anything food wise or natural people have done to help with bone loss

> issues.

>

> I have had years and years of malabsorption and Steroid use, so it's no

wonder.

>

> Also, I feel many of my health issues are in direct consequence to using big

> pharma meds for 12 years and I will probably deal with side effects as opposed

> to the disease and illness itself.

> Need to think positive..

>

> Jodi

>

[Guest guest]

You could take CLA (conjugated linoleic acid) along with calcium.

(The CLA should be identified on its bottle as the mixed isomer type, which

prevents any liver problems.) I posted about this a few weeks ago when you were

away, Jodi. A very recent study re: CLA shows that when taken along with

calcium (calcium citrate is the best kind) it increases bone density. I

read about that in a news story and contacted one of the researchers, who gave

me dosing and other information. (Up to 6 grams a day shouldn’t cause any

problem.) I suspect a lot of doctors don’t know about this (yet). And I don’t

know how fast one’s bones build up. But the results were measurable.

When I was told I have osteoporosis last year I refused the

traditional “bone builders” and decided to just exercise as much as my fatigue

allowed and continue to take calcium and Vit. D. Then I read about the CLA working

with calcium and began taking that in mid-January.

n

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Subject: OT- Natural approaches to bone loss

I am totally new to this subject and I must get

a DEXA scan.

It seems I have significant bone loss (I actually shrank in size. The day I was

over 5 feet was a big day and I actually reached over five one and a half!!!)

Now, I am only 5 feet. We checked on various machines, rulers.

I don't even know how to approach such a subject. I feel I need to let the diet

do it's time and once I am better maybe I can start excersizing like gentle

Yoga.

Is there anything food wise or natural people have done to help with bone loss

issues.

I have had years and years of malabsorption and Steroid use, so it's no wonder.

Also, I feel many of my health issues are in direct consequence to using big

pharma meds for 12 years and I will probably deal with side effects as opposed

to the disease and illness itself.

Need to think positive..

Jodi

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[Guest guest]

>

> I am totally new to this subject and I must get a DEXA scan.

> It seems I have significant bone loss (I actually shrank in size. The day I

was

> over 5 feet was a big day and I actually reached over five one and a half!!!)

> Now, I am only 5 feet. We checked on various machines, rulers.

>

> I don't even know how to approach such a subject. I feel I need to let the

diet

> do it's time and once I am better maybe I can start excersizing like gentle

> Yoga.

>

> Is there anything food wise or natural people have done to help with bone loss

> issues.

>

> I have had years and years of malabsorption and Steroid use, so it's no

wonder.

>

> Also, I feel many of my health issues are in direct consequence to using big

> pharma meds for 12 years and I will probably deal with side effects as opposed

> to the disease and illness itself.

> Need to think positive..

>

> Jodi

>

Vitamin D!!! This is a super important vitamin that is potentially not well

absorbed in pill/ supplement form by people with disegtive disorders. I just

read an article about a man who has crohn's who had major health benefits from

getting his vitamin D from UV exposure- tanning beds or outdoors. Did you ever

have a 25 hydroxy vitamin D test? I tan once every 7 to 10 days indoors, my

vitamin D was fine when I got my blood checked. I have crohn's and I was

deficient in other vitamins because I do have malabsorption issues. Vitamin D is

readily produced when our skin is exposued to UVB.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jodi, I've lost 1 inch in height in the past 10 years and also was on steroids for many years. I thought the same thing, osteoporosis. I had a DEXA and my bone density was fine. The problem is curvature of the spine, caused by muscles tensing and pulling the spine out of whack into a scoliosis pattern. I believe if I could find a good physical therapist I could reverse it, so far, no luck.

Have the DEXA and then worry about osteoporosis. A natural cure for that would be weight bearing exercises and vitamin D. When they give you the scan back they include a regime to follow if you have it.

I learned from listening to one alternative medical doctor that arthritis (which I have) and osteoporosis are opposite diseases. Arthritis calls for less weight bearing on the bones, losing weight and not lifting, while osteoporosis calls for lifting weights or walking with a heavy backpack to build up the density of the bones. There is a medication for it, but like you said, it comes with a long term price. Let us know what the DEXA says.

Ann,

Living in Italy

Undiagnosed Crohn's since 1977 Diagnosed 15 years

Sacroiliitis 25 years

Rheumatoid arthritis 25 years

Pyoderma Gangronosum 2 years

SCD since July, 2008

Meds: None

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:58:46 PMSubject: OT- Natural approaches to bone loss

I am totally new to this subject and I must get a DEXA scan.It seems I have significant bone loss (I actually shrank in size. The day I wasover 5 feet was a big day and I actually reached over five one and a half!!!)Now, I am only 5 feet. We checked on various machines, rulers.I don't even know how to approach such a subject. I feel I need to let the dietdo it's time and once I am better maybe I can start excersizing like gentleYoga.Is there anything food wise or natural people have done to help with bone lossissues.I have had years and years of malabsorption and Steroid use, so it's no wonder.Also, I feel many of my health issues are in direct consequence to using bigpharma meds for 12 years and I will probably deal with side effects as opposedto the disease and illness itself.Need to think positive..Jodi

[Guest guest]

Jodi,

You might NOT have significant bone loss, although then again, you might

because of all the steroids.

However, why not see what the test says before you panic?

My mom was sure she had osteoporosis because the cartilage in her knees

has disintegrated. (Steroids to prevent rejection of a replaced cornea.)

Scan came back... she has the density of a 60 year old, which, at 86, is

doing darn good.

If you're determined to start research, start with Vitamin D; calcium,

magnesium, and zinc containing foods (you're doing dairy-free right now,

aren't you?); and conjugated linolenic acid (CLA) which is more common in

pastured foods.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Hi,

> You might NOT have significant bone loss,

> although then again, you might because of all the steroids.

>

> However, why not see what the test says before you panic?

Well, I had my heel scanned in 2000 and 2001 which showed bone loss there. My

doc said with my D levels I really need a Dexa as she is concerned if a foot

scan (which she doesn't like) already showed bone loss.

I shrank a whole inch and a half. How disheartening!!

Anyway, Yes, I will do this test in the next few weeks too and not get too ahead

of myself.

> If you're determined to start research, start

> with Vitamin D; calcium, magnesium, and zinc

> containing foods (you're doing dairy-free right

> now, aren't you?); and conjugated linolenic acid

> (CLA) which is more common in pastured foods.

I am planning on re-introing yogurt soon. Just not sure if I should try non fat

first (better for Pancreas issues no fat) or low fat first (better for gut but

has more fat which is worse for Pancreas)

Pancreas is more troubling than gut right now.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Thanks Shirley!!

Jodi

[Guest guest]

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>

> I am planning on re-introing yogurt soon. Just not sure if I should

> try non fat first (better for Pancreas issues no fat) or low fat

> first (better for gut but has more fat which is worse for Pancreas)

Heh, I just made some for the first time today.

5 months, so I actually had to look up the temp.

for heating goat milk.

How soon we forget. <g>

Mara