Re: Thanks Helene for a great defintion of goal

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In a message dated 10/25/01 9:38:13 AM Central Daylight Time,

divequeen2002@... writes:

> I just want to add one thing. Make sure your ideal

> weight goals are also realistic. I have seen several

> people write in the past few days that the sizes they

> are wearing do not necessarily reflect what weight

>

During my 2 years of participating in WLS lists there is another observation

I would like to make. I don't want to anger anyone here, but I have observed

this quite a lot. Those of us who have had weight problems and severe weight

problems since childhood are much more satified and thrilled with the more

realistic weights that WLS achives (like 165 at 5'4 " in my case) than those

who spent through their teen years and possibly early 20's thin and had a

large weight gain later. I don't know exactly why it is, but I guess those

who have more experience being thin want the number to be the same as when

they were " thin " before. My surgeon practically guarantees with the BPD/DS

you will not remain " really fat " but he certainly makes no promises that you

will become " thin " . I would say I am happy to be normal.

Dawn--South Suburban Chicago area

Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

BPD/DS

4/27/00

www.duodenalswitch.com

267 to 165  5'  4 "

size 22 to size 10

have made size goal

no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting

[Guest guest]

I just want to add one thing. Make sure your ideal

weight goals are also realistic. I have seen several

people write in the past few days that the sizes they

are wearing do not necessarily reflect what weight

they thought they would be at that size. Gee, that

was a really jumbled sentence. Me for example, I'm

solidly sticking at 172 lbs and I'm 5'9 " . 172 seems

like I should be much heavier, but I'm wearing an

11-13. By the way, if you had told me a year ago I

could get myself into an 11, I would not have believed

it. I'm 2 1/2 years out from VBG and pretty much

stabilized on weight after a year. But my body has

changed a lot even though I haven't lost any more

weight. I also have had the TT, which significantly

changes how you look without a lot of pounds shed. I

guess what I'm trying to say is be happy within

yourself. You seem to already understand your

accomplishments logically. You should also accept

yourself emotionally and be so proud of what you have

already accomplished. Wishing you peace and love.

Judy in Austin

--- Marisa wrote:

> <<But my goal is no longer about the scale or cloth

> sizes. Today, my goal is

> to live my life free from this horrible food

> obsession that I still have. I feel

> as if I'm not even 1/2 way there- I think about food

> all the time, plan what I'm

> going to eat, how many calories I might have

> exercised away, etc. I will me at

> my personal goal, regardless of my weight, when I

> can live my life to its

> fullest, and food has become about sustenance.>>

>

> As I wrote before, I am struggling with this notion

> of " failure to reach a goal " as my 2 year anniversay

> looms. I can say with over 99.7% certainty (I am

> gettting ready to take a stat test in the next few

> minutes LOL).when I have defined my success as a

> narrow goal i.e. a certain weight or dress size., I

> have always set my self up to fail. I am struggling

> to define my success in broader terms and it is not

> easy or natural. I want to be the " star " weight

> loss person... I wnat to look thin and beautful for

> once..I want to be the A student in this effort and

> my internal motivation says... " engage in unhealthy

> eating behaviors to accomplish this " . This has

> also failed me miserably in the past and thus I went

> into this at a high weight of almost 430 pounds.

>

> Despite sitting in one place for 6 months and still

> having 50 to lose...I am now trying to defining my

> success as the following - so as not to self

> destruct one more time:

>

> 1. I can move about life without thinking about it

> too much (like where will I sit? how close can I

> park? what will others say about me? Will I be

> able to breathe if I walk up those flight of

> stairs?)

>

> 2. I won't hate myself so much (still working on

> this one)

>

> 3. During the course of the day, I think about what

> I eat in terms of what will it do for me and my

> health...not " I have to get in as much and as fast

> as possible ...no mindless shark like eating.

>

> 4. I will incorporate a realistic exercise plan

> into my life that help me to keep moving.

>

> 5. I will venture into the outside world alone or

> with others and not isolate myself alone.

>

> 6. I will strive to be accountable to myself and

> others so I am admitting when I struglgle. This

> give me support and hopefully help others to know

> they are not alone.

>

> I wnat to thank all those who wrote to me in support

> over the last few days. I tried to answer each one

> back. Thanks for helping me prep for a good

> anniversary.

>

>

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Judy,

I agree about realistic goals. The thing that bothers me is that most people

seem to weigh more than what their size

dictates. I wish that were the case for me. I’m 5’4, weigh 152, but wear a size

14/16. People say I carry my weight

well, but I REALLY want to farther away from those plus sizes. I’m very happy

with my weight, but not so happy with my

size. I’ve been stable with weight for 8 months, but seem to fill out at size 14

more than I used to.

- Alice A.

judy davison wrote:

> I just want to add one thing. Make sure your ideal

> weight goals are also realistic. I have seen several

> people write in the past few days that the sizes they

> are wearing do not necessarily reflect what weight

> they thought they would be at that size. Gee, that

> was a really jumbled sentence. Me for example, I'm

> solidly sticking at 172 lbs and I'm 5'9 " . 172 seems

> like I should be much heavier, but I'm wearing an

> 11-13. By the way, if you had told me a year ago I

> could get myself into an 11, I would not have believed

> it. I'm 2 1/2 years out from VBG and pretty much

> stabilized on weight after a year. But my body has

> changed a lot even though I haven't lost any more

> weight. I also have had the TT, which significantly

> changes how you look without a lot of pounds shed. I

> guess what I'm trying to say is be happy within

> yourself. You seem to already understand your

> accomplishments logically. You should also accept

> yourself emotionally and be so proud of what you have

> already accomplished. Wishing you peace and love.

> Judy in Austin

> --- Marisa wrote:

> > <<But my goal is no longer about the scale or cloth

> > sizes. Today, my goal is

> > to live my life free from this horrible food

> > obsession that I still have. I feel

> > as if I'm not even 1/2 way there- I think about food

> > all the time, plan what I'm

> > going to eat, how many calories I might have

> > exercised away, etc. I will me at

> > my personal goal, regardless of my weight, when I

> > can live my life to its

> > fullest, and food has become about sustenance.>>

> >

> > As I wrote before, I am struggling with this notion

> > of " failure to reach a goal " as my 2 year anniversay

> > looms. I can say with over 99.7% certainty (I am

> > gettting ready to take a stat test in the next few

> > minutes LOL).when I have defined my success as a

> > narrow goal i.e. a certain weight or dress size., I

> > have always set my self up to fail. I am struggling

> > to define my success in broader terms and it is not

> > easy or natural. I want to be the " star " weight

> > loss person... I wnat to look thin and beautful for

> > once..I want to be the A student in this effort and

> > my internal motivation says... " engage in unhealthy

> > eating behaviors to accomplish this " . This has

> > also failed me miserably in the past and thus I went

> > into this at a high weight of almost 430 pounds.

> >

> > Despite sitting in one place for 6 months and still

> > having 50 to lose...I am now trying to defining my

> > success as the following - so as not to self

> > destruct one more time:

> >

> > 1. I can move about life without thinking about it

> > too much (like where will I sit? how close can I

> > park? what will others say about me? Will I be

> > able to breathe if I walk up those flight of

> > stairs?)

> >

> > 2. I won't hate myself so much (still working on

> > this one)

> >

> > 3. During the course of the day, I think about what

> > I eat in terms of what will it do for me and my

> > health...not " I have to get in as much and as fast

> > as possible ...no mindless shark like eating.

> >

> > 4. I will incorporate a realistic exercise plan

> > into my life that help me to keep moving.

> >

> > 5. I will venture into the outside world alone or

> > with others and not isolate myself alone.

> >

> > 6. I will strive to be accountable to myself and

> > others so I am admitting when I struglgle. This

> > give me support and hopefully help others to know

> > they are not alone.

> >

> > I wnat to thank all those who wrote to me in support

> > over the last few days. I tried to answer each one

> > back. Thanks for helping me prep for a good

> > anniversary.

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

> > Homepage:

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe:

> > mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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<< I guess what I'm trying to say is be happy within yourself. You seem to

already understand your accomplishments logically. You should also accept

yourself emotionally and be so proud of what you have already accomplished.

Wishing you peace and love. >>

Judy (in Austin),

I think you have just summed up ALL the GOAL discussions with the ultimate

goal. Thanks!!!

In Charlottesville, VA

Roux-en-Y with Gall Bladder Removal: March 31, 1999, 318 lb.

July 26, 2001 -- 194

5'6.5 "