Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Hey Debbie, My Crohn's/Colitis is not that great either.. On going in a constant flare for 13 years have never been in remission. I am by no means healed but before the diet I was very close to having surgery for my colon and small intestine. Various surgeons told me it would take a few surgeries to get it right as I have many skip lesions and a lot of liquid in my bowels. I just felt I couldn't gamble with my insides in such a way.. So I gave the diet a try.. I have some other major health issues so healing for me is a pretty long road. I have been on the diet about a year and a half and from where I was my improvements have been life altering for -me-. From going 40+ a day to the loo and having horrible recurrent anal abscess to living in pain 24/7. All of that is in the past. I do not pass out on the toilet anymore screaming in pain. I go to the bathroom between 2-4 a day. I am no longer Anemic (yep!!) not needing blood transfusions and I no longer have a constant fever. I have not been able to resume a normal life but I can leave the house and be outside for hours at a time and enjoy myself which is such a huge deal for me. I have been on many medications and only Prednisone helped but sadly I am dealing with consequences due to so many years of steroid usage. At my young age I am dealing with bone loss issues. Elaine said that some of us may need surgery as the damage from scar tissue/stricturing etc might be too great for the diet to heal. My reasoning has been that I want the diet to do " it's thing " and if I do need surgery- when the doc goes inside they can know exactly which part needs to be removed without the gambling. Elaine said that the surgery can give us a clean slate for healing. I understand this now and I will see where I am next month.. as I have a scope due begining of April and tomorrow I am having a small bowel series. There are some great success stories with people with awful disease getting better on this diet, some even healed. There are great stories too of people who have had to have resections too. Many of the people who have healed just don't hang online that much- I hope they will speak up or drop a line your way to share their journey. Also, Lucy from the Kitchen Shop had horrible UC and she was very close to having her colon removed. She has now been on the diet 15 years. You could certainly call her to speak with her too. Good luck! It's a hard change but so well worth it! Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Debbie, The lady who was my mentor was told on diagnosis that her gut looked " like bloody lace, " and surgery was highly recommended. She did not, as she noted, want to lose important body parts. She found SCD, and followed it absolutely fanatically, peeling and cooking her veggies, broiling her meats, diluting any legal fruit juices, and so forth. No commercial products other than what are permitted in BTVC. You have done an intro diet. What and when did you eat on the diet? Did you keep a food diary? Are you currently keeping a food diary? My mentor, btw, had another colonoscopy 14 months after her diagnosis. Her doctor said that if he had not diagnosed her himself, he would not have believe she was the same patient, because although she showed signs of having had the disease, her lesions were healed. FYI, my grandmother died of complications of diverticulitis. My mother was just in the hospital and received a unit of blood because of bleeding caused by diverticulitis. I, on the other hand, 7 years SCD, had a colonoscopy in January, and had no sign of diverticulitis. Hurrah, SCD! — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Hi Marilyn: Thank you so much for your email. It's so great having a network like this. That is an amazing story. I really hope the diet works for me as I am not ready for a colostomy bag at age 39. Yes, I did the intro for five days. I was in a bad flare when I started the diet (probably not the best time) and I go about 10-15bms per day, which certainly increased last week during the intro. This is what I ate: Chicken soup with the pureed carrots Cheesecake (with just Farmer's Cheese, eggs, and honey) I didn't have the yogurtmaker at the time A lot of Farmer's Cheese Boiled chicken Hamburger Broiled Fish Today is day 6. I just had some yogurt (since my yogurt maker recently arrived). Moving forward, I'm not sure if I should start to go by the phases as listed in pecanbread or just start to introduce things. I've heard that almond flour can be irritating but also that it bulks up the stools... I'm not keeping a food diary because I go about 10-15 times per day anyway (have been for four years), and everything seems to affect me, so I don't know how I'd be able to track what's causing the reactions at this point. Thoughts? Debbie > > > Debbie, > > The lady who was my mentor was told on diagnosis > that her gut looked " like bloody lace, " and > surgery was highly recommended. She did not, as > she noted, want to lose important body parts. > > She found SCD, and followed it absolutely > fanatically, peeling and cooking her veggies, > broiling her meats, diluting any legal fruit > juices, and so forth. No commercial products > other than what are permitted in BTVC. > > You have done an intro diet. What and when did > you eat on the diet? Did you keep a food diary? > Are you currently keeping a food diary? > > My mentor, btw, had another colonoscopy 14 months > after her diagnosis. Her doctor said that if he > had not diagnosed her himself, he would not have > believe she was the same patient, because > although she showed signs of having had the disease, her lesions were healed. > > FYI, my grandmother died of complications of > diverticulitis. My mother was just in the > hospital and received a unit of blood because of > bleeding caused by diverticulitis. I, on the > other hand, 7 years SCD, had a colonoscopy in > January, and had no sign of diverticulitis. Hurrah, SCD! > > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Hi Debbie, I was also on 60mg pred when I started and my doc said my only solution was to go on Humira. I refused his offer and started the diet and am now off all meds for the first time in over 15 years. This diet works. It may take longer for some and I still have times of inflammation, but I'm much much better than I've ever been on meds. I'm sure sometimes surgery may be necessary, but this diet is a life saver. I've only been on it 8 months, but no more D and no more blood. My life is much better because of this diet. My doctor assured me no diet could help me. He said I had a very bad disease and I was a very bad patient (because I refused the Humira). Now I have a managable disease and I'm no longer his patient (expcept for tests as needed) Best of luck to you. It works!!! Ann, Living in Italy Undiagnosed Crohn's since 1977 Diagnosed 15 years Sacroiliitis 25 years Rheumatoid arthritis 25 years Pyoderma Gangronosum 2 years SCD since July, 2008 Meds: None To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:51:33 PMSubject: Success Stories - Severe Crohn's I'm wondering if anyone can share some success stories they've had with doing the SCD while having a severe case of Crohn's or UC. I have Crohn's Colitis and my next step a full colectomy. I didn't get much encouragement from my GI doctor about this diet working in my particular situation. I'm wondering if this diet has worked on people with Crohn's as bad as mine, or if it mostly works on people who have mild to moderate disease. I am currently in a bad flare, am on 60mg of Prednisone (just upped it from 40), and just had a pretty awful doctor's appointment this morning laying out my bleak options. I have been doing the diet for a week now --- just finished the intro stage and was pretty much a mess the whole time (a lot of bm's, blood, etc.). I am wholeheartedly into this diet 100%, I just need some encouragement that it could work for someone like me.Thoughts? Thanks for anything you can share.Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Hi Lucy: Thanks for posting your message. It sounds like you are doing great on the diet. I actually did talk to Lucy from Lucy's Kitchen Shoppe and she was pretty inspiring too. I really hope the diet works for me too : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Hi, I would think about eliminating the DCCC for a little while. Perhaps you aren't tolerating dairy. You could also try making goat milk yogurt instead of cow's milk, to see if that makes any difference. Possibly eliminate the carrots too. I have no problem with them, but I've read that it can be an issue for a lot of people. As for replacements, have you tried french cut green beans (beans minus the seeds)? Zucchini and butternut squash could also be things to try, and which seem pretty tolerable for a lot of people. I hope you get things turned around soon! Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > > Hi Marilyn: > Thank you so much for your email. It's so great having a network like this. That is an amazing story. I really hope the diet works for me as I am not ready for a colostomy bag at age 39. > > Yes, I did the intro for five days. I was in a bad flare when I started the diet (probably not the best time) and I go about 10-15bms per day, which certainly increased last week during the intro. > > This is what I ate: > > Chicken soup with the pureed carrots > Cheesecake (with just Farmer's Cheese, eggs, and honey) I didn't have the yogurtmaker at the time > A lot of Farmer's Cheese > Boiled chicken > Hamburger > Broiled Fish > > Today is day 6. I just had some yogurt (since my yogurt maker recently arrived). Moving forward, I'm not sure if I should start to go by the phases as listed in pecanbread or just start to introduce things. I've heard that almond flour can be irritating but also that it bulks up the stools... > > I'm not keeping a food diary because I go about 10-15 times per day anyway (have been for four years), and everything seems to affect me, so I don't know how I'd be able to track what's causing the reactions at this point. > > Thoughts? > > Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Hi Debbie, When my dd was first dx'ed w. Crohn's, one of the dr's at Mass General told us that they use this diet as the last resort before surgery, so take heart..... Ellen (who will try to write more later) 11 y/o dd w. Crohn's scd since 5/06. Med-free!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Hi Debbie, Here is a re-post of something I previously wrote on here: " When my dd first started the SC diet, I found success stories very helpful, so here is ours: My dd was dx'ed at age 8.5 w. a very severe case of Crohn's disease. It took us three months to get a proper dx, and, by that time, her SED rate was 95, which was so off-the-charts that, if the GI consult didn't pan out, our next stop was the cancer docs, b/c it was most likely to be lymphoma..... She was hospitalized a week and we started the SC diet two days after she was discharged. It's been (and I can't believe I can say this) 2 1/2 years. Everyone has their trials and challenges when they start the diet. Ours were that dh and I had been vegetarians since we were teens and we felt that it was really impossible to eat only dairy and eggs and have a complete diet on SCD. So we added some fish, chicken and meat to our diets. Since we are Jewish and keep kosher, this meant adding an entirely new set of dishes, pots, cabinets, etc, and re-learning how to keep a kosher kitchen with two sets of dishes in it, something I had not done since I was a child. Our other big challenges were that we had a newborn baby (dd got sick when I was 7 months pregnant), and one of our four children has an anaphylactic allergy to nuts. Whee! If we could make it through 2 1/2 years with this @#$^@#!$ against us, I hope I have given some inspiration that, whatever challenges you are facing in implementing the diet, it CAN be done. We also had lots of good things to help us: very supportive family (including my mother and brother-in-law who cooked all off dd's nut products at their house so I wouldn't risk " dosing " the nut-allergic child), a GI doc who STRONGLY supports the SC diet and tries to get all his IBD patients to follow it, parents who came to help with the baby [my dad] and help me figure out what the heck to cook [my mom], and the financial ability (for a little while, at least!) to hire someone to come 3 hours 3x/week to clean the kitchen that I repeatedly and continually trashed cooking for six people.....It was also a big help that dd has always been homeschooled so we didn't have to deal with packing her lunches for school and dealing with tons of parties. dd left the hospital on a ton of meds and has weaned off of prednisone, flagyl, prevacid, and (the last one to go) Imuran. She's been over 5 months totally med-free (no supplements either) with only the SC diet for treatment. We have begun experimenting with her having a few bites of things that aren't SCD, and she's had two complete meals off for major family events (one was a year ago and her GI doc gave approval since she had been symptom-free for quite a while). I am starting to use some ingredients that are not completely SCD (I bought my first package of pre-shredded cheese in three years recently!). The way that I've presented it to my dd is that it's great we have the SC diet " in our pocket " for the future. I picture her eating mostly SCD but without the diet-recommended fanaticism. Like how I heard that Elaine Gotschall's daughter ate/eats 80% SCD and 20% SAD (Standard American Diet). Maybe/probably there will be times in her life where she'll have to go back to it (for women, notably hormonal changes of adolescence and pregnancy/postpartum seem to induce bad flares), but how great we know something other than meds and surgery. Wishing everyone on this list good health, Ellen 11 y/o dd scd since 5/06 for Crohn's med-free since 9/08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Hi: I go to Mass General too. I guess you live nearby. The doctors there (in the Crohn's and Colitis Center), non-pediatric, are NOT proponents of this diet. They know I'm on it but basically tell me I can certainly try it (duh, I know that), but I'm too severe for it to work. I'm glad your dd is better. Would love to hear more and who his doctor is... although I certainly do not qualify for a pediatric GI at age 39. Thanks, Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Debbie I have done very well (UC)but my disease was not as severe as yours. However I wanted to bring to your attention Raman Prasad's book 'Colitis and Me' which you could order on Amazon I think. He had UC and his Dr described his intestine as like bloody hamburger. He was facing removal of his large bowel and also a serious liver issue. His book was incredibly inspiring to me and in fact it was the thing that convinced me to give the SCD a try. Thank God i did. Best wishes Kylie UC 6 yrs SCD 4 yrs > > I'm wondering if anyone can share some success stories they've had with doing the SCD while having a severe case of Crohn's or UC. I have Crohn's Colitis and my next step a full colectomy. I didn't get much encouragement from my GI doctor about this diet working in my particular situation. I'm wondering if this diet has worked on people with Crohn's as bad as mine, or if it mostly works on people who have mild to moderate disease. > > I am currently in a bad flare, am on 60mg of Prednisone (just upped it from 40), and just had a pretty awful doctor's appointment this morning laying out my bleak options. > > I have been doing the diet for a week now --- just finished the intro stage and was pretty much a mess the whole time (a lot of bm's, blood, etc.). I am wholeheartedly into this diet 100%, I just need some encouragement that it could work for someone like me. > > Thoughts? Thanks for anything you can share. > > Debbie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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