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how do I make up for the little we are contributing, or should I just not worry about it, and just try to be there to help out with all the preparing. Jeanna, I say don't worry about it. Your daughter and her extended family is not going to be counting pennies-- Your daughter will love you for all that you do and ARE! To be there for her is what is important. And by letting her in-laws do what they can to help with the costs is wonderful-- it will keep the family issues at bay. Help in Texas for once its not medical. YEAH!!!!!

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how do I make up for the little we are contributing, or should I just not worry about it, and just try to be there to help out with all the preparing. Jeanna, I say don't worry about it. Your daughter and her extended family is not going to be counting pennies-- Your daughter will love you for all that you do and ARE! To be there for her is what is important. And by letting her in-laws do what they can to help with the costs is wonderful-- it will keep the family issues at bay. Help in Texas for once its not medical. YEAH!!!!!

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how do I make up for the little we are contributing, or should I just not worry about it, and just try to be there to help out with all the preparing. Jeanna, I say don't worry about it. Your daughter and her extended family is not going to be counting pennies-- Your daughter will love you for all that you do and ARE! To be there for her is what is important. And by letting her in-laws do what they can to help with the costs is wonderful-- it will keep the family issues at bay. Help in Texas for once its not medical. YEAH!!!!!

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I can say I kinda understand where you are coming from there i have 3 girls of my own. Well only one of them had a real wedding if ya know what i mean. I would just say be there and do what you can I'm sure just having mom there and your abilities to be involved are a huge plus to your daughter.

I bet she's some kinda special and I know you feel like you aren't doing much I still feel like I don't give my girls much but we have always been poor and my girls have always known love from their mom and they always had something money couldn't buy and that was tons of Love, compassion, girls day out, and quality time with MOM.

Hope that helps sweetie.

Much love and compassion,

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Dear Jeanna,

Hi my name is Kim pretty new to the group. Let me stick my two sense in from a daughters point of view. I met my husband when i was 19 got engaged aftr 5 months marrried two years later. The feb before i got married( may 93) my mom decided to fufill a dream of hers and move to St. to open a nail shop for tourist( she did beautiful art work and oil paintings on the nails) she missed some of my planning but did what she could i didnt come from money but my husband did He wanted a big all out affair and paid for it himself my father contributed a bit and so did his parents. 2 months after we married my mo0ther was diagnosed with lung cancer and died a year later. It didnt matter who paid for what i am so grateful she was there but even more grateful that she had the opportunity to make her dream come true she only lasted 3 months out there too homesick but she tried and had I asked ehr to wait until after i married would have made her mis out on a dream. My inlaws on the other hand God bless them no one could fill my moms shoes but my MIL comes close and now that I am ill again she steps to the plate. Blessed is your daughter if she has those kind of inlaws they have already made all of you family. br gracious and thankful. Your presence will be the present TRUST ME ! My mother never got the chance to see me become a mother enjoy one of the most important days of her life..................................

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Gregg, are we trying to be funny here, my future son in law just wanted to go to the justice of the peace and spend longer in the Carribean, but his mother and I have to agree me also said we would possibly kill them both if they did. Thanks for the info though, Jeri, any thoughts on a cost effective wedding. Your friendly Texan, Jeanna

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Hi Tracie, well I never thought about email invitations, I think my daughter would probably have a stroke on that one along with my mom but thanks for the laugh of the morning I needed one can't seem to sleep got up at three am o yeah guess who will be tired all day today. Take care your friendly Texan, Jeanna

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Dear Jeanna,

First, congrats on the engagement! Second, this is a wonderful, fun

time for you and your daughter and a very special time. I had 4

daughters that I planned weddings for but for my baby daughters

wedding, we had a crisis. My Mother was in the hospital dying and

altho I had bought my daughters dress, ordered the cake, ordered the

flowers, I could not " be there " for every little thing and the grooms

Mother graiously stepped in and helped.........and I most certainly

appreciated it! She took over planning the Reception and when I

balked at letting her pay for it, she understood and we split the

cost (as she had planned a very costly reception and could afford it

where I could not). I would suggest that you let the grooms family

step in and help you here....they understand your situation (illness)

and sounds like they really want to help. Don't forget that they

want their son to have a wonderful wedding also and probably feel

like your daughter is one of theirs.........

Just my opinion, but I married off 5. Keep us posted and again, congrats.

Hugs,

Darlene

> Hi Everyone, I know that everyone is down with this horrible disease and I

> don't mean to be a bother but please help, I had a wedding and my mother

> was my definite help in planning so I want to be that for my daughter

> also. She and her boyfriend, soon to be fiance well in February around

> the 14th he is giving her an engagement ring that cost as much as my ring

> after 20 years cost not that my engagement ring wasn't beautiful it was

> but I can't see where he can go up from the one he is buying her that has

> been part of the hold up on announcing there engagement is because he

> wanted to have it paid for and wanted to take her somewhere to give it

> her, somewhere no one else knows where I suppose for privacy reasons you

> think. Anyway, the wedding is in late June, I know we pay for the dress,

> flowers,her fathers attire and her brother's attire as she wants him to be

> an usher, and the reception following, but the groom has two sets of

> parents as his parents are divorced and both are pretty well off and have

> no daughter and he is the baby so his mom and stepdad have already paid

> for the church,rehearsal dinner, his mom has also said she wanted to help

> do the flowers we could just puchase the materials. I don't want to seem

> like we aren't doing anything we do live in another city and his mom is

> aware of my illness but she is our daughter. My husband's family has been

> friends with his grandmother for years. I have known his grandmother

> since I got married. I just don't want his family to think we are taking

> advantage of them or that we are cheap skates. Of course my lovely

> spoiled daughter's dress is going to cost us about $600.00 and she found a

> cake for around $125.00. I also wanted to get a little diamond necklace

> for her dad to give to her as something new to wear with her wedding

> dress. My future son-in-law's father is probably going to help out with

> their honeymoon. So how do I make up for the little we are contributing,

> or should I just not worry about it, and just try to be there to help out

> with all the preparing. Help in Texas for once its not medical. Your

> friendly Texan, Jeanna Ps.They are both hoping for a honeymoon in the

> Bahamas a little spoiled wouldn't you say.

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Sounds to me like you are doing plenty, if they offer then let them help, it's OK. Especially if they don't have a daughter, they usually want to help more!! I know you will be very appreciative of everything, so let them do what they can.

and please pace yourself!! How exciting, something wonderful to look forward to!!

Love the Colorado girl,

Marla

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Hi Everyone, I know that everyone is down with this horrible disease and I don't mean to be a bother but please help, I had a wedding and my mother was my definite help in planning so I want to be that for my daughter also. She and her boyfriend, soon to be fiance well in February around the 14th he is giving her an engagement ring that cost as much as my ring after 20 years cost not that my engagement ring wasn't beautiful it was but I can't see where he can go up from the one he is buying her that has been part of the hold up on announcing there engagement is because he wanted to have it paid for and wanted to take her somewhere to give it her, somewhere no one else knows where I suppose for privacy reasons you think. Anyway, the wedding is in late June, I know we pay for the dress, flowers,her fathers attire and her brother's attire as she wants him to be an usher, and the reception following, but the groom has two sets of parents as his parents are divorced and both are pretty well off and have no daughter and he is the baby so his mom and stepdad have already paid for the church,rehearsal dinner, his mom has also said she wanted to help do the flowers we could just puchase the materials. I don't want to seem like we aren't doing anything we do live in another city and his mom is aware of my illness but she is our daughter. My husband's family has been friends with his grandmother for years. I have known his grandmother since I got married. I just don't want his family to think we are taking advantage of them or that we are cheap skates. Of course my lovely spoiled daughter's dress is going to cost us about $600.00 and she found a cake for around $125.00. I also wanted to get a little diamond necklace for her dad to give to her as something new to wear with her wedding dress. My future son-in-law's father is probably going to help out with their honeymoon. So how do I make up for the little we are contributing, or should I just not worry about it, and just try to be there to help out with all the preparing. Help in Texas for once its not medical. Your friendly Texan, Jeanna Ps.They are both hoping for a honeymoon in the Bahamas a little spoiled wouldn't you say.

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Sounds to me like you are doing plenty, if they offer then let them help, it's OK. Especially if they don't have a daughter, they usually want to help more!! I know you will be very appreciative of everything, so let them do what they can.

and please pace yourself!! How exciting, something wonderful to look forward to!!

Love the Colorado girl,

Marla

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Hi Everyone, I know that everyone is down with this horrible disease and I don't mean to be a bother but please help, I had a wedding and my mother was my definite help in planning so I want to be that for my daughter also. She and her boyfriend, soon to be fiance well in February around the 14th he is giving her an engagement ring that cost as much as my ring after 20 years cost not that my engagement ring wasn't beautiful it was but I can't see where he can go up from the one he is buying her that has been part of the hold up on announcing there engagement is because he wanted to have it paid for and wanted to take her somewhere to give it her, somewhere no one else knows where I suppose for privacy reasons you think. Anyway, the wedding is in late June, I know we pay for the dress, flowers,her fathers attire and her brother's attire as she wants him to be an usher, and the reception following, but the groom has two sets of parents as his parents are divorced and both are pretty well off and have no daughter and he is the baby so his mom and stepdad have already paid for the church,rehearsal dinner, his mom has also said she wanted to help do the flowers we could just puchase the materials. I don't want to seem like we aren't doing anything we do live in another city and his mom is aware of my illness but she is our daughter. My husband's family has been friends with his grandmother for years. I have known his grandmother since I got married. I just don't want his family to think we are taking advantage of them or that we are cheap skates. Of course my lovely spoiled daughter's dress is going to cost us about $600.00 and she found a cake for around $125.00. I also wanted to get a little diamond necklace for her dad to give to her as something new to wear with her wedding dress. My future son-in-law's father is probably going to help out with their honeymoon. So how do I make up for the little we are contributing, or should I just not worry about it, and just try to be there to help out with all the preparing. Help in Texas for once its not medical. Your friendly Texan, Jeanna Ps.They are both hoping for a honeymoon in the Bahamas a little spoiled wouldn't you say.

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Jeanna, sounds crazy set back, relax and have a family meeting. This way all is discussed as to what you want to and can do for your daughter.

You will avoid hurt feelings later.

Sharon

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Hi Everyone, I know that everyone is down with this horrible disease and I don't mean to be a bother but please help, I had a wedding and my mother was my definite help in planning so I want to be that for my daughter also. She and her boyfriend, soon to be fiance well in February around the 14th he is giving her an engagement ring that cost as much as my ring after 20 years cost not that my engagement ring wasn't beautiful it was but I can't see where he can go up from the one he is buying her that has been part of the hold up on announcing there engagement is because he wanted to have it paid for and wanted to take her somewhere to give it her, somewhere no one else knows where I suppose for privacy reasons you think. Anyway, the wedding is in late June, I know we pay for the dress, flowers,her fathers attire and her brother's attire as she wants him to be an usher, and the reception following, but the groom has two sets of parents as his parents are divorced and both are pretty well off and have no daughter and he is the baby so his mom and stepdad have already paid for the church,rehearsal dinner, his mom has also said she wanted to help do the flowers we could just puchase the materials. I don't want to seem like we aren't doing anything we do live in another city and his mom is aware of my illness but she is our daughter. My husband's family has been friends with his grandmother for years. I have known his grandmother since I got married. I just don't want his family to think we are taking advantage of them or that we are cheap skates. Of course my lovely spoiled daughter's dress is going to cost us about $600.00 and she found a cake for around $125.00. I also wanted to get a little diamond necklace for her dad to give to her as something new to wear with her wedding dress. My future son-in-law's father is probably going to help out with their honeymoon. So how do I make up for the little we are contributing, or should I just not worry about it, and just try to be there to help out with all the preparing. Help in Texas for once its not medical. Your friendly Texan, Jeanna Ps.They are both hoping for a honeymoon in the Bahamas a little spoiled wouldn't you say.

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Tracie, I hope you can at least rest during the day it seems I have to be completely exhausted due to the joint pain before I can really sleep. My thoughts and prayers are always with you. Your friend in Texas, Jeanna

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Rose, congratulations to you on your son's wedding, I hope everything goes well for them. Hopefully we can both get through our children's weddings. This is both my daughter and her fiance's first and only time to get married so I know that we are all going in blind sided so I guess there won't be that much to compare to. I hope things continue to go well for your son and his fiance. Write anytime you need to talk and hopefully we can get through all this together. Your friendly Texan, Jeanna

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Jeanna, I have a friend who actually paid her daughter to elope so that they didn't have to pay for a wedding! They had a big barbeque party later. If you know this family and know that they won't bring it up later to hurt you, just relax and let them pay for what they want. Who made those rules anyway, about who pays for what? My son just told me that he is getting married in June. MY BABY! His girlfriend has been married before & has 2 kids. I don't know yet what they have in mind. Rose

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Hi Everyone, I know that everyone is down with this horrible disease and I don't mean to be a bother but please help, I had a wedding and my mother was my definite help in planning so I want to be that for my daughter also. She and her boyfriend, soon to be fiance well in February around the 14th he is giving her an engagement ring that cost as much as my ring after 20 years cost not that my engagement ring wasn't beautiful it was but I can't see where he can go up from the one he is buying her that has been part of the hold up on announcing there engagement is because he wanted to have it paid for and wanted to take her somewhere to give it her, somewhere no one else knows where I suppose for privacy reasons you think. Anyway, the wedding is in late June, I know we pay for the dress, flowers,her fathers attire and her brother's attire as she wants him to be an usher, and the reception following, but the groom has two sets of parents as his parents are divorced and both are pretty well off and have no daughter and he is the baby so his mom and stepdad have already paid for the church,rehearsal dinner, his mom has also said she wanted to help do the flowers we could just puchase the materials. I don't want to seem like we aren't doing anything we do live in another city and his mom is aware of my illness but she is our daughter. My husband's family has been friends with his grandmother for years. I have known his grandmother since I got married. I just don't want his family to think we are taking advantage of them or that we are cheap skates. Of course my lovely spoiled daughter's dress is going to cost us about $600.00 and she found a cake for around $125.00. I also wanted to get a little diamond necklace for her dad to give to her as something new to wear with her wedding dress. My future son-in-law's father is probably going to help out with their honeymoon. So how do I make up for the little we are contributing, or should I just not worry about it, and just try to be there to help out with all the preparing. Help in Texas for once its not medical. Your friendly Texan, Jeanna Ps.They are both hoping for a honeymoon in the Bahamas a little spoiled wouldn't you say.

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Rose, congratulations to you on your son's wedding, I hope everything goes well for them. Hopefully we can both get through our children's weddings. This is both my daughter and her fiance's first and only time to get married so I know that we are all going in blind sided so I guess there won't be that much to compare to. I hope things continue to go well for your son and his fiance. Write anytime you need to talk and hopefully we can get through all this together. Your friendly Texan, Jeanna

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Jeanna, I have a friend who actually paid her daughter to elope so that they didn't have to pay for a wedding! They had a big barbeque party later. If you know this family and know that they won't bring it up later to hurt you, just relax and let them pay for what they want. Who made those rules anyway, about who pays for what? My son just told me that he is getting married in June. MY BABY! His girlfriend has been married before & has 2 kids. I don't know yet what they have in mind. Rose

Planning a wedding, help everyone

Hi Everyone, I know that everyone is down with this horrible disease and I don't mean to be a bother but please help, I had a wedding and my mother was my definite help in planning so I want to be that for my daughter also. She and her boyfriend, soon to be fiance well in February around the 14th he is giving her an engagement ring that cost as much as my ring after 20 years cost not that my engagement ring wasn't beautiful it was but I can't see where he can go up from the one he is buying her that has been part of the hold up on announcing there engagement is because he wanted to have it paid for and wanted to take her somewhere to give it her, somewhere no one else knows where I suppose for privacy reasons you think. Anyway, the wedding is in late June, I know we pay for the dress, flowers,her fathers attire and her brother's attire as she wants him to be an usher, and the reception following, but the groom has two sets of parents as his parents are divorced and both are pretty well off and have no daughter and he is the baby so his mom and stepdad have already paid for the church,rehearsal dinner, his mom has also said she wanted to help do the flowers we could just puchase the materials. I don't want to seem like we aren't doing anything we do live in another city and his mom is aware of my illness but she is our daughter. My husband's family has been friends with his grandmother for years. I have known his grandmother since I got married. I just don't want his family to think we are taking advantage of them or that we are cheap skates. Of course my lovely spoiled daughter's dress is going to cost us about $600.00 and she found a cake for around $125.00. I also wanted to get a little diamond necklace for her dad to give to her as something new to wear with her wedding dress. My future son-in-law's father is probably going to help out with their honeymoon. So how do I make up for the little we are contributing, or should I just not worry about it, and just try to be there to help out with all the preparing. Help in Texas for once its not medical. Your friendly Texan, Jeanna Ps.They are both hoping for a honeymoon in the Bahamas a little spoiled wouldn't you say.

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Thanks, Jan, for caring. I'm in one of those times where I'm just trudging along. I'm so tired all the time. We had snow last night & I started a fire in the fireplace, but when the fire died down & I tried to revive it with bellows, cardboard, etc., I was just too tired to do it. I just want to sleep all the time. I have a doctor's appt today or I wouldn't even get dressed. Boy, this letter is sure a downer, isn't it? I know this will pass; I'm just tired of being tired. Good luck with your new doc; hope he lives up to his reputation. Rose

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Congrats Rose on your sons upcoming wedding. What is this all these weddings in 2004 i'm hearing of already this is fabulous news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Rose honey how are you doing? I haven't forgotten about you nor the kindness you showed me when the chips were down with all i was going thru last year with my daughter.

I hope I can return the favor sometime.

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Honey I know what you mean. I'm so tired all the time and the pain well it's off the charts. And depression well I have to say I have some of that too lets not leave that out, cause when the docs don't see things in black and white thats what they revert too is you must be depressed.

So I asked my doc I said "well if you had my illness and had to deal with what I have to day to dat to day don't you think you'd be just a bit depressed?" and he said "Yes" wow I got a Yes from a doc!!!!!!!

Only thing is I have a different look on this depression it's not just about my past or the bad hand i've been dealt my whole life a lot of that was plain old stupid choices on my part and some I had no control over but thats all in the PAST!

What i'm concentrating on now is my future and what I can do to change that and make it the best it can be cause I DO have some choices over that.

No I can't take away this crummy illness butr I can do what I can to take care of ME for a change unfortunately it requires getting the attention of my kids and anyone involved around me attention and making them realise I DO have LIMITS and that begins with ME!

I'm working on it and I realise it will take time but I'm determined to make a difference.

I truely hope you are feeling a bit better today and please if I can help in any way please let me know i'm here for you and you are always in my prayers.

Love ya,

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Sorry I haven't followed this thread, but I do want to share the most popular

things from my wedding 7 years ago. I was already quite ill during the planning,

so a friend hired a wedding planner to take care of a lot of things. However,

the very best idea was mine. Ours was an indoor/outdoor wedding -- the ceremony

was outdoors, but because it was August third, the dinner/reception was indoors.

One problem: the indoor space was cramped and my guest list was about one third

children. Solution??? the biggest bounce house I could afford. I can't tell you

how popular that was -- with both the kids (mine especially) and moreso with the

parents.

We rented it at the same place we got the chairs, tables, etc. The best part was

that it was much cheaper than expected.

Hope all the weddings go well.

PS, I am a bit too ill to read all this mail, so if something is to me

personally I will try to answer just as soon as I can. agreed to let me

use his G4 laptop with internal modem and in addition to letting me stay in

touch with my friends I am doing research for his classes.

Love to all,

Reneness

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Sorry I haven't followed this thread, but I do want to share the most popular

things from my wedding 7 years ago. I was already quite ill during the planning,

so a friend hired a wedding planner to take care of a lot of things. However,

the very best idea was mine. Ours was an indoor/outdoor wedding -- the ceremony

was outdoors, but because it was August third, the dinner/reception was indoors.

One problem: the indoor space was cramped and my guest list was about one third

children. Solution??? the biggest bounce house I could afford. I can't tell you

how popular that was -- with both the kids (mine especially) and moreso with the

parents.

We rented it at the same place we got the chairs, tables, etc. The best part was

that it was much cheaper than expected.

Hope all the weddings go well.

PS, I am a bit too ill to read all this mail, so if something is to me

personally I will try to answer just as soon as I can. agreed to let me

use his G4 laptop with internal modem and in addition to letting me stay in

touch with my friends I am doing research for his classes.

Love to all,

Reneness

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Life is a menu! Why not go gourmet!--

Weller, Oy, and all that Jazz!

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